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  • in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #24093
    Julie Heller
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    Min – Games 2 – Jprs 2- 7/17/21
    Guess what? Chaia’s dogs are loud. They just woke Kaladin up when I was watching this on the couch. We ran this out of order since we weren’t sure how quickly it was going to get hot and I really wanted to run 2&3. Still had enough dog left after that so we did 1 also..
    I was trying to send and leave more and Min certainly seemed to like it…even when I left too early for a BC on 3 and pulled her off it.

    Games 2 – Jprs 3
    Experimented with left wrap vs right spin for 6-8.
    I timed it from takeoff of 5 to entry into #8 tunnel
    1rst rep – wrap left on 6-7 – 5:35sec
    2nd rep – abort!
    3rd rep – BC on 5 and spin to right on 6 – 6:02
    So maybe she was a bit slower on the spin because it was the 3rd try and because I started her after the straight tunnel. The spin felt better (when I got it right), but I’m guessing the left turn kept her in extension longer and she still turned tight on the left wrap.

    I’m still flapping my arms around on the BCs and I even managed to do one too early on the first take at the end.
    Turns out of straight tunnels have always been a challenge for her. I think the 2nd take from 8 to 9 was tighter because I paused a bit as she was heading to the tunnel. The first time I was running and cueing right but the motion definitely overrode the verbal. If I hadn’t put a cross in there I would have gotten the wrong end of the tunnel.

    Games 2 – Jprs 1
    Tried serping 10-13 and I think I prefer the double BC. I ran this right before I saw your feedback on the go vs left for the pinwheel so that might have helped, but it was just a far enough distance that I felt like I had to support sending her out and then I was late getting into position to serp 12-13.
    We ran this around 11am and it was in the mid 80s by then so I”m really impressed with how Min was moving. Chaia was worried she’d get stuck in the taller grass but she loves running on grass.

    Kaladin tagged along and did really well with the environmental acclimation game near Chaia when she was standing still and walking the course. I tossed his first treat and mixed up whether I called him to me past her or had him look at me and the tossed the treat past her. Even with her walking around and within 5ft of him, he never actually took a step to her, just flicked his eyes her way and then back at me. I felt like that was entirely fair since she was moving around. He didn’t freeze and stare either.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #24092
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Min- Games 2, Seq 3 – 7/12/21
    I was a bit surprised I had to use the right as much as I did on the 180 turn. Maybe if I hadn’t been using it instead of jump on the pinwheel the day before that might not have been an issue?

    I plan to try those bits of Games 1, Std 1 in my back yard tomorrow morning to test the spin vs send/leave.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #24052
    Julie Heller
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    Min – Games 2 – Seq #1 & 2- 7/10 & 7/11/21
    Still trying to catch up from all the sequences I video-ed last weekend. My plan was to pack them in before Kaladin got neutered on Wed and I flew out to Rochester to visit inlaws on Sat. I was going to catch up on the video posting this past week. Well that all changed when Dean’s Mom passed away suddenly on Wed night. She had numerous health issues over the last several years and had been in and out of the hospital alot but had always rebounded. Luckily we had planned for Dean to fly out ahead of me for a longer visit so he was able to see her. He and his sister are in a frenzy of taking care of all the details/logistics so I’m holding down the fort in MN, changing all the travel & dog sitting stuff, and then flying out next Thursday for the burial on Friday.

    So this was from last weekend for Min:
    Aborted first baseline when she came our of the #3 tunnel with her head down hunting for mulberries. Jazzed her up more and here is the 2nd first baseline. This was post breakfast and while it’s not as hot as it’s been, it is a bit muggy.
    I saw her take a look and 1 extra stride straight instead of right from 4-5 and I think it’s because a “let’s go” slipped out. I liked her right turn 8-9 and her wrap (check check) 11-12.

    Practice- right from 4-5 (drop reward on line to 5, instead of saying let’s go), Experimented with post turn and spin on wrap, Added an extra go for the last line.

    Final
    Take 1 – Not sure what caused the pinwheel instead of 8-9.
    Take 2 – liked this one better

    Games 2 – Seq 2 – Min – 7/11/21
    Ran straight off the start. She might have been heading to the mulberries or smelling the dead mouse I had just picked up near the DW, but clearly we weren’t connected. The 2nd first time she flicked her eyes of to the right heading to 2 (mulberries?). She felt sticky out of the 2nd tunnel but she read 8 to 9 well and jumped the inside of the jump.

    Practice
    Earlier dig dig cue on 4. Earlier Go (before last tunnel). Reward out on line to 7 was the plan with Nemo but she wasn’t in a chase Nemo mood so we switched to cheese.

    Great feedback on Min running the Games 1 Std course. I’ve got Course 3 to post to which probably would have benefitted from that feedback, but Chaia is 45min away so I did 2 of them in a row on Tuesday. I’m headed down there early tomorrow before it gets into the 90s again and plan to push the distance more, keep my arms in when doing repeated blinds, and use more cues vs “yes’s”. Kaladin is going to come along to play some engagement games with Chaia as distraction since he’s not cleared to actually play agility.
    Question on post turn vs spin – I have typically used spins in cases where I think I need to keep Min off another jump (like pulling her through 2 close jumps on a wrap). I don’t use them too much with her since she’s so small and generally turns pretty tight. My thought was that I should “save” the spins for that and use a post turn in other cases. Is that faulty logic and I should just be using whatever gets my feet pointed in the right direction faster?

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by Julie Heller.
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    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23992
    Julie Heller
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    Min – Games 1 – Standard Course 1 – 7/13/21

    Finally managed to line my schedule up with Chaia’s! Standard course was set with jump substituting for a frame and straight tunnel for DW.
    Min approves of big courses on nice grass. Had walked getting a blind in before #16 so she could turn right to the tunnel but quickly realized I wasn’t getting there in time. At the end, it may be hard to hear, but I was busy giving her the wrap left (dig dig) cue when I wanted and got the wrap right. Clear proof that she follows body motion and position more than verbals, or at least verbals that were trained later (she started out with check check as wrap towards me either direction and I retrained to dig dig when I was training Kaladin)

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23866
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Games 2 – Sequence #1 – Kaladin – 7/10/21
    Jumped him at 10in (bit muggy for 12 for the Floof Munster). Used his name softly out of #3 tunnel and he didn’t head to the off course. I think the “yes!” started to pull him in 8-9. Check Check wrap was decent. He did have a small head check on the last line

    Practice (after running Min)
    Decide to run closer into the tunnel so I could be moving more as he out. Also did 8-9 reward on line with get it instead of yes so he wouldn’t pull into me. Rewarded the wrap and tried a spin. Rewarded the Go on the last line after 13.

    “Final product” – later in the day
    Had 2 aborted starts and then I realized he was being drawn to Nemo who was pretty far off course by my back steps. Moved Nemo further away and did a short sequence having him turn away from the distant sight of Nemo and then having his Happy Hour Nemo reward. Things went much better after that.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23865
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Lots of good ideas on where to take this next…and he’s going in for the removal of 2 small pieces of anatomy on Wednesday so this game may be an option after he’s had some time to recover. (I’m also out of town Sat-Tues to visit inlaws (who don’t like dogs. geesh!) so we’ll be taking a bit of a break anyway.

    With the Jacque pounce it was the middle of the sequence where she was the extension of his line as a distraction. He’s progressed from not trying to go visit when we come in or when we are setting up. Great plan on using the acclimation game. Now she just needs to hold another mini seminar…

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23783
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Kaladin & Min – Motion Override – 7-8 & 9/21
    Got behind on my video editing.

    Kaladin
    7/8 was the first session with my motion for camp (we had done this earlier in Max Pup but not recently). Started with his flying Squirrel and then upped the ante and used Nemo on 7/9. He thought I had completely lost it around 0:55 and kept starting at me so I did help him with a tiny bit of motion to the wing when I started up again and then he figured it out.

    Min
    She also thought I had completely lost it when I started partying near the wing. Then she caught on. Cropped out me rewarding Kaladin for staying on the mat and then resetting him when he got bored with waiting.

    In other news, Kaladin rocked his mini seminar at OTR on Friday. We did the environmental acclimation game while we were walking and a few tricks heading in for his turn and he rocked the very first sequence. Then lost his brains when he was heading towards Jacque H so detoured to pounce on her, seemed disappointed when she ignored him and came back when I called him. I had him do the next part of the sequence and then rewarded that.

    in reply to: Julie & Kaladin #23706
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    DW at 36in – 7/7/21
    Took more than a week off due to excessive heat and being out of town. We finally got a bit of rain and it cooled down to the mid 70s so I decided I might as well try the wing instead of the PT and voila! Not a full extension run, but he’s staying focused forward to the wing and he’s actually running and not trotting! He was kind of bouncy and pouncing over the stride regulator onto the target. Not sure if that is something to worry about or if he’ll flatten out more as he sorts it out.

    Also, I went back to the class to watch the a-frame video and the link isn’t working (for the video). I don’t know if it was working before and then something changed.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23702
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    I think I got confused which dog you were talking about here:
    Another interesting insight from Kaladin – I think Kal had trouble staying in his spot when you did a big β€œYES!” verbal and that is something to know for training him: he finds it stimulating and a drive to momma marker. So with Min you can have your placement markers more than the big YES – which will also bring more clarity for her.

    I think you are saying to use the placement markers more with Kaladin than the big Yes and this will help for clarity.

    And in regards to the passing guy & stroller – he can usually handle someone going by at a moderate pace with no dog as long as he’s not startled by them. The dogs are what usually elicit a response if I am not actively working to prevent that by engaging him in something more productive.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23662
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Skills #2 – Verbals with Arousal – 7/7/21
    I did a few sessions with each dog on Monday and Tuesday. Today was the first one I did with the wing.
    Using “sit” for the stationary behavior. And a mix of Flip (spin left) and Turn (spin right) for the moving behavior (because I don’t like being one-sided when traing them!)
    Still need to post my verbals, but here’s what I’m using for the wing:
    Check-check – wrap right
    Dig Dig – wrap left
    Lalala – backside slice
    circle-circle – backside 360
    Catch (catch food or toy)
    Grab it (grab toy in my hand – think I forgot it a few times)
    X (treat delivered to mouth)

    Kaladin
    (I need to not lean towards the wing when he’s trying to figure out why I’m being weird)

    Min
    Haven’t done this much formally with Min at all (maybe 1 or 2x when Kaladin was working on it in MaxPup), but apparently she’s picked up these skills along the way.

    And just for kicks – this was Kaladin’s 2nd session with 12 straight poles!

    In other news, I had great success this morning on our walk by tossing the first treat off the path as we were moving. He stayed calm for dogs going by about 10ft away. Sometimes he stared at the dog heading away from him for a while, but I waited him out. He also looked quickly back at me when a guy pushing a big stroller went by about 5ft away.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23564
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Ah yes – I can see how the cue to get the tossed treat and then the sight of the distraction becomes the cue to play the engagement game.
    Our cue for multiple treats raining down from the sky is “Bonanza”.

    In other news we did a few short sessions of the verbal arousal and determined that Sit is a very strong behavior that he can do with me jumping and flailing arms in place. His flip/turn (spin left and right) isn’t as strong but it’s good with moderate movement on my part.

    Currently raining hard which is good for the grass and dropping the temps out of the 90s, but bad for actually training outside.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23542
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Kaladin – Environment Acclimation – 7/5/21
    We did a quick refresher of step 1 and then moved to step 2 with Nemo as the distraction.

    Is the bit about making sure the treat is tossed on a surface where the dog can easily find it for the learning stages? I regularly have him find a dropped treat in the grass when we are walking and another dog is approaching. The grass is mowed for a decent stretch off the path) It takes him a while to find it and then I toss another and pretty soon the dog has gone by and he’s still happily finding treats. I tried the game this morning which basically meant waiting for him to look back at me before giving him the toss cue and dropping the next treat. Worked really well as long as I got him off the path and at a distance (10-15ft) from the approaching dog. A few times he had to stare for a while before he could look back at me but he did it all calmly. He’s not advanced enough that he can do this if we are surprised by an approaching dog and don’t have time to get a bit of distance.

    In other news, he did really well hanging out at the USDAA trial in Duluth over the weekend. We played a bit of frizzer with a long line in the field away from the ring, did some restrained recalls and tugging, and just hung out in the shade within sight of the ring. Did 2 really short sessions with the practice jump but it was in the 90s so he was pretty un-enthused. (combination of heat & the trial environment was definitely beyond his pay grade at this time)

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    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23308
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    <eKaladin- Send to Tunnel Sequences- 6/30/21
    Flipped things around so I could work on the Sequences using the other half. He thought I was more clear about the softer and sharper turns. I think he missed the first backside to the tunnel because I was too far over and blocking his view of the wing.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23193
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Kaladin – Send to Tunnel sequences- 6/29/21
    Moved a tunnel into the back so I could work on the distance sends with something he is really comfortable with…so comfortable that I kept getting the further out jump than the sharper left turn. I probably shouldn’t have had my arm out for the tighter left turn but am not quite sure what else would help to handle that distinction at a distance. Now I need to flip my course around so I can fit in the other half. (That DW sure takes up a lot of space in a small yard. And Christina, Dawn and I have had a hard time syncing up our schedules to train together at a larger space.)

    And Min was definitely hangry. She’s calmer at trials! We had to work through a big teeter issue when she was younger so I think I’m still overjoyed each time she gets one at a distance and am more exuberant with the praise for them than I need to be.

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (camp 2021) #23155
    Julie Heller
    Participant

    Min – Send to Teeter Sequences – 6/24/21
    Here’s Min acting bonkers (for her) because it’s meal time. She runs ahead of me to the end of the teeter nicely but I think I haven’t been good about making sure she isn’t releasing herself when I’m further away.

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