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  • in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38092
    agilitywawa
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    Hi Tracy,

    Did our first reps of Straight line 4 ways. In her class and grids with height, she is now jumping 16 quite confidently. I did the exercises at 12″.

    I started the “go” with the tunnel since I though she’d be ok. Looks like I need to throw the toy sooner (rep 2 head turn).

    Then we worked through the other 3 variations.

    FC – she had some issues with the bars – I left them for you to see since I’m not sure what I was doing differently that caused the bar to drop.

    RC – that went surprisingly well! So I just did the couple of reps on the video and moved on since I’m trying to work while it’s still cool.

    Backside. Had quite a bit of trouble. I led out so I could walk. I see in the reps where she got the backside, I’m really “over-helping”. She seems to know the word in a vacuum but once there’s motion, it’s too much to process(?)

    “You might even consider some NFC Speedstakes in the late summer or fall? Letโ€™s take a road trip so our baby dogs can play with no one watching hahaha!”

    Haha is right! It would have to be in super secret, like my yard!! Maybe a year from now…

    Joan

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    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38047
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Here we are with the tunnel.

    Now that I have the tunnel out, hoping to work on the straight line games. And I have a weekend with almost no plans (so exciting) to get some homework done.

    She did so well at her class last night! She’s really understanding her lefts and rights, even coming out of tunnels. And we got some really good sends to jumps too.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #37886
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Here’s step 2 – toy in my hand. She has a much easier time on my right, wrapping left. There I felt like she was not looking for the toy. On my left she was not as strong/independent (yet!). Short early AM session -we’re having 2 stupid hot days, then maybe I can drag some equipment out.

    I was able to add more motion than yesterday.

    Thnaks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #37842
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Last week was nuts – work and I was trial secretary on the weekend, so not so much got done. Trying to pick up where I left off with the backside wrap commitment – I think I did a better job getting out of her way. And she was much tighter around the wing. I don’t know if I was really testing the commitment as much though, but this skill is hard for her…

    Thanks,

    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #37496
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy!

    I did not get back to that set up to try again- storming yesterday and then got really hot after the rain. And now all the equipment is off the grass for some kind of treatment…

    I could start the backside circle wrap commitment game though. This is hard for her (she had trouble at
    the seminar when you were here too). Just the first steps with me walking and throwing the toy behind me. That went pretty well, but I’m not trying to leave too soon (yet).

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #37301
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    I was finally able to watch a live class in real time! And we went out and tried the first 2 games during class. Then I had to get the tunnel moved for mowing ๐Ÿ™‚

    Here’s Winging it with FC and Spin. She gives me pretty good commitment to the wing.

    Then we tried the beginning steps of game 2 with the tight blind crosses and adding in the FC to tunnel. Trying to keep my wings down. LOL

    Fun games! Lots to do with this configuration.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #37128
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi!

    Glad you said this because I had no idea how I was going to pull that off!: No need to do the FC on this one, it wonโ€™t make sense with her speed ๐Ÿ™‚ It would only be a good exercise in why the BC is a much better choice LOL!!!

    I revisited the BC to teh tunnel. It felt a bit better, but then I saw the video and I was still kind of running the arc, not getting out of there. But, I was farther ahead, just need to adjust my line. It was much easier for us on the first side – not sure if it’s because I’m right handed or not.

    Then I tried the Rear Cross set up and it was hard for me. I tried breaking it down some and that helped.

    Thanks,

    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36994
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Back from our little break.

    I’ll revisit those wraps. I wanted to try some of the other exercises. It was gross and hot, so we kept it short.

    Here’s the start of the Fluffy BC (I will do the FC separately):

    While in blind cross mode, I wanted to try the next game with the send and BC to tunnel. Dellin sends out fine, my timing seemed a bit late when looking at the video. Maybe I went too deep in there(?) or I could actually run faster. LOL. You see this configuration (or variations) all the time, so it’s great that she will have the exposure to it so early on.

    Looking forward to getting back to it!

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36745
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Thanks for the extra videos!

    My timing must have been really bad – the “jump” was instead of a go, but I probably did not need to say much at that jump – it was right in front of her. I meant the left/right was where she was going after after that jump.

    I think maybe I need to spread my set up out more. I felt like everything was way too close and I had no time to get the words out.

    Dellin has several markers for toys – and when I train agility I seem to forget to use ANY of them ALL the time. I can also try leaving it out on the ground.

    I tried to do some wraps this morning and it was a mixed bag. Again, the spacing seemed too small. I know what this fells like when I run Mari – the decel and the turn, but I felt like I was thinking too hard and it was really messing things up. I usually cue the wraps with Mari with my back to the jump – it’s more comfortable for me (what I’m used to). Trying to do the front cross leaves me facing the wrong way too long since I’m not turning quickly enough and leaving (I’m facing the tunnel too long).

    I had to back up and work on 1 and 2 jumps. We did manage a couple of reps with more, but overall not the best session.

    We are camping now for a few days, so I will rebuild the set up when I get home again and maybe give myself a little more space. I’m not exactly sure how big it was, but once I was trying to cue a wrap, there was not enough room for me to feel comfortable.

    And I still was not using any toy marker and bars were falling all over the place. We need to regroup – she used to be able to turn tight. And I need to stop overthinking it!

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36653
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Thanks for the clarification. Big emotional response was like an understatement – she had a meltdown which was hard to see. I understand how to proceed. Will get some video just to make sure I’m on the right track. I don’t know that she will try very hard to find the cookie in the grass. The only thing she likes to look for in the grass is rabbit poo and I draw the line on using that as a treat. Actually, if I handed it to her or suggested that she eat it, she’d probably never eat it again. LOL

    Watched the first part of Saturday’s class and worked on the lazy game – send to the jump and lazy game to tunnel, the added some movement. Lots of bars coming down in conjunction with throwing the toy, so looking for ideas to clean that up.

    Thanks,

    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36589
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    It was like giving her a cookie and then cuing the frisbee toss. Just giving her the idea like teaching them a clicker. I was literally asking for nothing!

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36536
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    I started trying to work with treats and she had a pretty aversive reaction. I was basically trying to give her a treat and then mark and throw her frisbee. She did not want to take the treats, but she did reluctantly, then she would not chase her frisbees and she completely shut down (went what I call “floppy fish” – meaning she flopped down on the ground and would not move, so she was pretty uncomfortable. Usually when I get out the frisbees, I can get her out of those bad places, but today it’s like she was suspicious of the whole thing.

    If I lose the toys, I will have nothing.

    I know I have told you that she is sensitive, but she is on the abnormal/unusual end of the spectrum, so I need to be careful. I worked with someone else just on the training a sensitive dog piece and I don’t want to hijack this thread with someone else’s comments, but I’s be happy to share them with you privately if that would help you.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36521
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    I think now I finally had the right idea for Winging it. On the one side, she cut behind me a couple of times on the way back to the tunnel. Was my connection not good? I did forget to use her wrap verbals on the middle wing – I was overthinking the rest of it I guess.

    Then we did a little with the teeter – first with a hollee roller. She would target it, but I still had to throw it. The I switched to the pepperoni. First one was on the end of the plank and she stopped and ate it. Then I threw the frisbee. Second rep, I tried putting the pepperoni on the table, but that did not work, so I returned to the end of the plank. She seemed to like it, which means nothing – she could spit it out tomorrow, but for today it was a win.

    In the past I worked on trying to reinforce the eating with the toy, so it’s not unfamiliar. I just never got her to the point where she was really excited about the food. At least this morning she did actually swallow the pepperoni before I threw the frisbee.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36424
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    On the winging it, I TOTALLY misunderstood what I was supposed to do with the middle wing! Now that I understand, I will redo it.

    Dellin did her first disc event today, so I think that’s enough work (she probably disagrees). You’d be happy to know that in the “frizgility” game where they do a 3 jump arc, then catch the disc, Dellin did not need any direction on the jumps – I think that qualifies as my Lazy Game for today since I was not really moving ๐Ÿ™‚ and I was not close to those jumps either.

    Teeter – I can use other toys, she will target them too.

    The food remains tough. She does not really have any favorites. She will eat string cheese at her classes, but generally not at home. Hotdogs don’t work. Sometimes I can steal some grilled chicken from Terry and she will take that most of the time, but if she sees it more than once or twice in close proximity, then it loses it’s attraction. I bought a few slices of pepperoni today to try out with her. Usually my dogs love deli meats, but Dellin is harder – it has been a long time since I’ve tried these kinds of meats. As ridiculous as it sounds, she likes Zukes type treats more than most things. I have some freeze dried stuff that she has not seen in a while, so that might work. Everything is pretty short lived in terms of keeping her interest. She takes treats better at class than at home – I think because her arousal is up and sometimes it’s like she’s redirecting on to the treats and will get a little chompy (she otherwise takes treats very gently).

    I can continue to try other things. I thought she was liking watermelon – I was handing it out to everyone yesterday and she eagerly eats when everyone is getting treats. Today by herself I gave her a piece of watermelon and she took it, spit it out, studied it and then ate it. So there’s no speed to the eating. She eats her meals well, but I think that is helped by context – everyone else is super pumped and eating fast. I prefer not to use her meals for training because it took a long time to get her to eat her meals at mealtime and we are in a good place with that (they are also raw and messy).

    She also tends to like crunchy treats, so not the best for training, but if she actually likes them, then maybe I should revisit that. Or maybe she’s just taking them because the other dogs are!

    I will work on the food rewards with the plank. Would I still throw the cookie or hand it to her and then throw a toy?

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #36326
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    I was trying to implement your suggestions for Winging it, but I must have been doing something wrong – we seemed to have some struggle – so my movement must not be correct. The first 2 felt pretty good, but I was not sure if it was too much like yesterday’s reps. One way was easier (for me anyway). I left in the ones where we did not get the middle wing so you could see.

    Teeter – same set up but letting her drive ahead to the frisbee at the end.

    Then some plank games – raised the plank a little, used “search” to find the cookies and did some turning around. She was like, why are you trying to stop me – I walk now. And must I eat this cookie? A little judgey. The space is pretty small, so I can see why she’s not running – nowhere to go. The plank weighs a ton, so taking it outside is a pain, but I can do it. Or take a plank off the dog walk to use.

    Thanks,

    Joan

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