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  • in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39996
    agilitywawa
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    Hi Tracy,

    Been gone camping and then to a UKI trial.

    Finally got to look at Week 9 and start the deceleration exercise. Baby steps – in front of tunnel to FC, then turn and burn. The added the tunnel to the FC.

    We did our first 2 NFC runs this weekend and she handled the environment really well – perfect start lines (at start and in middle of course), able to play with her toy, looking for her jumps. She had a lot of fun and the course had a few places where rewarding was obvious and easy. It was speedstakes, so I got to us “GO” quite a bit! She did an end line of 3 straight jumps out on one course with me in the dust. Great first show experience.

    Decel video:

    Thanks,

    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39826
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi!

    Thanks so much for doing that! Looking forward to hearing what they say. Dellin is interesting because changing things in training can blow her mind if I go too fast, but she can take all of her skills to new places and be fine. She has been to a couple of seminars and other new places to work and she translates her max puppy handling skills brilliantly – no problems. So, known things in new environments are ok.

    Today she happily got back on the teeter for her 4 reps and I had the cone to wrap. Way more animated than the first video. So I did not wreck all the previous work. I was relieved anyway…

    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39788
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi,

    I would be interested in hearing more about the resilience conditioning – it’s not something I am familiar with. I’m glad I had that on video – when I try to tell people how sensitive she is, it’s hard to really convey it accurately and without me sounding like I’m overreacting to a minor sensitivity. You are right – I am very careful about how her training progresses, but I can’t control everything.

    As it turns out, she is having a massage later today, so we’ll see if anything is off there.

    Thanks!
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39782
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi,

    The game where you go up and the board does not move was the one that caused the meltdown. All the games with tables have been fine.

    I know she does not look super enthusiastic, but for her it was good. I would not say she’s super enthusiastic about anything. I think she likes the cone wrap after the best, so I should not go out there without the cone.

    You said – Toys as the target, meaning she would not do a 2o2o? What if you used a toy between cookies, to keep things more interesting for her? I am not fully convinced the food is a great positive reinforcement here so a little excitement will help with that.

    Correct could not do 2o2o with toy as target.

    This afternoon I put the cookie down first then just let her go on the board and released and threw the toy and she had a total meltdown – would not chase or bring the toy back -acted very suspicious of the whole set up, like I had muddied the picture for her. She initially goes after the HR, but won’t pick it up, bring it to me, catch it when thrown to her or tug on it. Then she flops over and does all her appeasement stuff, so I quit. I’ll be lucky if she even gets back on there tomorrow. I have noticed with her that if I take too big a leap and the picture changes too much that she will tell me she’s confused by quitting. I left that in the video so you can see what I’m dealing with. It seems like if normal dogs can modify a piece of training in one step, Dellin needs 3 steps. Just an observation I’ve made with working on heeling. And once she knows what is going on, she’s happy to work, but my path looks a lot different from everyone else’s.

    Here’s the teeter video:

    In an effort to get her back to some sort of happy place, I went back to the sequence to work on the turns at 5 with RC or FC. She got back on the HR there and was acting normally again.

    The RC is hard to see and some of it gets cut off because the turns are super wide. I’m really horrible at those.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39771
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    I’m guessing the arm is why it was so uncomfortable on the lead out. I don’t find it bad when moving.

    The teeter – no issues with the end games – bang or the noise. In between Max Puppy sessions, I was going to do the Independent Study teeter class. I did the elevator up to nowhere and she does not like that AT ALL. She would not get on the board again. I had to go back to a flat board in the basement and work my way up to getting any incline – it took a couple of weeks. I went back to using 2 tables – a 24 and a 16 and initially, I let her go back and forth since she was offering going up. Then I got to a 24″ table and like an 8″.

    To work on the going up piece, Nancy suggested that I work on getting what had been the 24″ table lowered. We did 16″ and now we are lower and she’s going to the ground. As you can see, she thinks quite a lot about it. I use food at the end. Toys were too much – she could not stop. To keep a clean loop, I either circle her back and run or send her around a cone and run back. I only do 4 reps per session. Some days I get 2 sessions in. For her, this seems to be about right. I am trying to vary my position, but not be part of the cue (like me moving with her).

    Then we started the Big Lines games from the live class. I only did the 1-3 both ways (blind cross before or after #3). She had already done the teeter and some weave work and the grass was really wet (but we have storms forecast for later, so wanted to at east start this).

    On the first rep, I forgot to tell her “left” out of the tunnel so she went super wide. Fixed that on the second rep 🙂 I think I’d almost always choose the BC on the landing side of 3 or I’d likely end up in the dust depending on where the course went.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39476
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Haha – they all were forced FC or throw back. Somehow I thought using my threadle word, somehow turned it into a threadle. LOL. I think I tend toward the FC most with the dogs that have rock solid start lines (Mari) or throwback if I need a tight turn.

    Did a bit of the threadle with Dellin today. It felt really uncomfortable for me for whatever reason. Maybe because I was not moving.

    We made the big move of entering 1 speedstakes run each day at a UKI trial over Labor Day weekend at 16s to do NFC and play around.

    I have been working on the teeter with Nancy at my private lessons – I need to catch up on the homework and see if we can get on track there. Dellin is making good progress, but she definitely has opinions, so we’ve been respecting that and working with her. I keep every session to 4 reps and that seems to be working for her. Would you be open to seeing a bit of teeter video?

    Here’s the lead out threadle:

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39445
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Last week was nuts – thunderstorms almost every evening, a lawn treatment, grass that grew like a foot after all the rain, blah, blah, blah.

    Happy to be back at it on a gorgeous afternoon.

    I did a couple of the lead out FC/threadle exercises. I did 2 different sequences from the homework sheet. Left it all on one video.

    We’ve also been working on grids and her confidence is growing. We’re no at 18″ for jumps that have height. For the sequences, I have the bars at 16″.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39092
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Tried out the lead out using the threadle word (in). Started on one jump, then went to 2 jumps and did the threadle, throwback and LOP to end. I realized I was using a lot of arm at the start and tried to dial that back and rely more on the verbal. Now that I think about it, my feet are pointing the wrong way for a threadle (which is why all of them felt like throwbacks – because they are). I knew something was off when I was doing it (and I just figured it out). OOPS. so there are a lot of reps of the same thing but sometimes I used the threadle verbal and sometimes I did not. Well that was silly. Sorry about that.

    I was minding the start line and making sure to pause. She was a little twitchy at the start when I’d move my arm, so a good reminder for both of us to pause. I always pause with Mari, so not sure why I feel rushed with Dellin.

    Looks like we have good weather staying for the next week, so I hope to get back to the homework. I’m a bit behind.

    Thanks,

    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #39001
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    The hot weather broke and it’s gorgeous so trying to DO ALL THE THINGS! This should be a good week to get some homework done.

    We started the lead out to the backside with throwback, FC and the lead out push. I did put a leash on the ground to help me, but things still look a bit late on my end. The mechanics for the throwback were hard since I did not want to show her the “cookie hand” with toy, so I had to switch hands to make the toss going the correct way.

    Am I standing too close to the jump? It felt a bit awkward. Dellin was brilliant at reading which side of the jump to take. Even when my set up on the second side was causing her to zig zag a little.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38883
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi,

    Trying to improve on yesterday, but hit some snags. The BC – maybe I was too early – she was skipping jump 2 consistently. I was trying to keep the WINGS DOWN, but may not have succeeded! May need to duct tape my arms down. LOL. Reminds me of training my first service dog and we were all in wheelchairs at class, but still using too much unconscious body language with some cues. The instructor tied me into the chair so I could not move my upper body – certainly gave me a new perspective on how it was for the recipient of the dog.

    The throwback “now with less throw” worked well, unfortunately it’s impossible to see my right hand (so maybe that means it’s in the right place 🙂

    The FC was fine – tried to focus on doing it earlier.

    She was dropping a lot of bars this morning – they were at 16. yesterday at 14.

    Enjoyed zoom class last night – I swear my other dogs never learned those skills this young. Excited to get to that after the weekend (going to a trial). Will also add the tunnel into the sequence like the Wednesday zoom – that looked like a ton of fun.

    Have a great weekend!

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38771
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    Like everyone- it has been hot (not as hot as a lot of you) so have not done as much. I watched class last night which looked super fun, but did not play along. And we’ve been working on weaves (inside) and some grids too – long list, short outdoor season. We have 2 huge grids in the yard, but I was able to squeeze in lesson 1 from week 7 – lead outs variations. It was a gorgeous cool morning.

    We did the BC, throwback and FC. I did not drag a tunnel out like the set up last night, but at some point I will.

    Dellin seems to be one of those dogs that finds her own set up spot and I don’t mess with it too much since it feels like something that could cause her to melt, so she’s happy, she seems to pick a good distance and she does not move on the start line, so I call it good.

    I threw the toy a couple of times and after that it was placed on the ground after jump 3 (except for the throwback).

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38388
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    A few reps from yesterday and today. Yesterday I was able to leave the toy on the ground. This morning it made her head explode. The 3 from yesterday I had the jumps pretty much in the normal position. Today I did the little sequence and I had to dial it way back and angle the jumps. By the last rep, I had straightened them a tiny bit.

    I know I need to work through the toy on the ground (she used to be able to ignore it, but lately she has been scoping for it – like tunnel to the toy with no attempt at any of the in between). Which is also making jump grids difficult.

    At her class last night, I was the only one there, so we did a little serp work in a different place and in a short sequence and she was amazing – showed her a little angle for a couple of reps, then she was fine with the jumps straight.

    We also did a little of the tunnel exit game last night – go from tunnel to another tunnel straight ahead and then a couple with turns out of the tunnel. If I had know I’d be the only one there, I would have brought my tripod!

    I’m going to let the serps sit for a bit now and work on the tunnel game.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38275
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    I did the next couple of things in the homework (not all in one session!).

    A couple of sends to the 2 jumps and then the first sequence on both sides. I started with the jumps pretty angled and after a couple of correct reps straightened them a bit.

    Thanks for telling me about that toy – she will happily chase the HR, so I used that instead.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38173
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Good morning!

    It’s gorgeous out so I did a quick serpentine exercise before leaving for our herding lesson 🙂

    I have actually been working on the serps recently (and in a lesson with Nancy) since they have been a hard skill for her. We are making progress – I am now able to have the second jump in the “normal” position.

    Here are the first 2 steps in the homework. Sorry she gets cut off on the start of some of them.

    Thanks,
    Joan

    in reply to: Joan and Dellin (Border Collie) #38136
    agilitywawa
    Participant

    Hi Tracy,

    We went back out to try to clean some of this up.

    Just one rep of “go” to toy on the ground. It’s muggy out – rain is on the way which the sad brown grass desperately needs. Of course it has to be Saturday afternoon after like a month with no rain…

    I could see on the previous video (after you pointed it out) that my position on the RC and backside were the same, so I tried to focus on that and I think we did better.

    Also did a few FC in between the RC and backside to break those up.

    Thanks,
    Joan

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