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  • in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31813
    Amy Wilson
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    2 jumps! I knew she was a right sided dog before this. Further proof lol! I tried to do the bell curve with her on this as much as possible. The left turns with motion were not happening today😊. Also I felt like she may have been curling in too much on those go’s. I’m trying not to mark the mistakes but oooh is out of my mouth before I realize it! At least I’m recognizing that. That’s the first step rightšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜œ?

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31779
    Amy Wilson
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    Yes, the weave training has been another light bulb moment with her for me. If I only knew all these things the previous year with her lol!!! I think for quite awhile I was not using food as much as I could have with her. She’s really my first sheltie that is toy driven. I worked super hard on that with her as a puppy. She was much more food motivated at first than toys(Hello Sheltie). I would lose her toy focus sometimes with food and I think I was just scared to use the food. I really did need to use the food though!!! When Breeze got injured in your previous class and Promise took his place was when I really started to see a change with her. You suggested the reset cookie and that changed a lot for her! Her reinforcement rate also has to be EXTREMELY high(as should all dogs)!!! I was able to get away with not being as consistent with my reinforcement rate with my first two shelties(Potter is an absolute Saint of a dog) but Promise says she will only accept the best trainer lol!!! No sloppiness allowed!!! I have adding food A LOT more to my training sessions and I’m seeing much better results because of it. I have also not seen the loss of toy drive with her either! Im starting with food with all things right now to teach a behavior and then adding the toy after the behavior has a general understanding. I’m seeing much better results.

    Finally here is a list of my verbals

    Extension: GO– take the line of jumps in front of you as fast as you can leaving me in the dust- center of bar

    Over– take the jump relatively straight. Can also be a very slight curve. mostly center of bar

    Get Out- change leads and go away taking obstacle away from me. center of bar

    Turn cues:
    Wraps- check check check- wrap jump 180 to right-jumping right near wing
    dig dig dig- wrap jump 180 to left-jumping right near wing
    left- turn 90ish degrees to left nearish wing
    right- turn 90ish degrees to right nearish wing

    Switch- this is my rear cross cue. I do have big questions on this after last nights
    video chat. I do realize it is a “VAGUE” cue. Rears are more and more being presented in different ways. It was my word for either side too. Wondering what to do on this????

    backside slice verbal- back back back wrap around backside of jump and take bar at a slice angle going in new direction

    backside wrap verbal- wrap wrap wrap. come in close to wing and wrap 180 back

    Threadle slice- in in in come in between jumps and take jump at a slice

    Threadle wrap- haha I need this in my life!!! will think of a word. Probably will steal Carrie’s and Jamies lol

    Tunnel threadle–here here here. take opposite side of tunnel you are presented with

    Go tunnel. take tunnel and extend out on line

    tunnel- take tunnel

    free- release word
    READY- automatic down, when you do I lead out and we get the party started

    Of course she has all the toy reinforcement words and many other things. Im too lazy to list them all. The toy reinforcement words helped a ton with her. Another game changing moment with her. One thing with the treat n train too was I changed its reinforcement word to snacks. When I said get it she was looking for toy and that was causing some frustration with the sloooow to deliver food robot.

    Sorry for the book!!! Today is a day of rest for puppy!!!

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31764
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    ——-She had more trouble towards the end of the session, when you were doing the wing wraps to the left turns. I think that was more arousal-based. That is something you’ve seen – when arousal is higher, she has more questions and errors (totally normal!!). So here is an idea: set up your session as a bell curve. Start with a couple of easy reps to each side, as a bit fo a warm up. Then, before the arousal kicks in, do a couple of harder reps (the start wrap to the left turns with you moving a bit more were definitely harder!) Then after a couple of reps, wind down the session with a few easier ones, similar to what you did at the beginning (like the last couple of left turns you had on this video). That way, you work the harder stuff before the arousal kicks in fully. Then when she is really stimulated, you ask her is she can still do the easy stuff!——

    Ohh I love this idea!!! I know it will work! It does works with her stays😊! Your stay class drove this point home to me with her! I will write this on my field guide! Unfortunately I didn’t realize about the field guide on this one lol! I clicked on the next lesson and it was the field guidešŸ˜‚! So helpful. Thank you for providing it.

    Yes, she still struggles with her temper! I do feel like it’s getting better and I might not get eaten in the ring anymore, but we will see😜. I need to remember to be faster with the reset cookie.

    The weave training with her has been sooooo good for her. She has to stay in a calm state to do it and she is amazingly doing it! She’s learning so much patience and I’m amazed the Tasmanian devil does not make its appearance during those sessions! For some reason she does not lose her mind. I’m following your independent online class. It’s probably the reset cookie that she gets every time with that. No frustration, lots of fun. Her new zen self is starting to surface in other places too😊.

    See you tonight! Can’t wait.

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31752
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    I was really happy with this. Overall I’m really impressed with how well she knows her words!!! Hurray for max pup. Looking at the video I maybe needed to add more walking. It’s hard lol because she is so fast, she’s at the wing faster than I would think. I did reward inappropriately a few times too, but It’s seems no harm was done lol!!! She’s better with right than left. It was interesting that when I decided to loop back with a mistake I got the same jumping up behavior as the double wraps! It also interesting how I get louder and higher pitched with motionšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚! That I might need to work on with her. I’m all zen walking and then I add motion and go up a few levels šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31652
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    Yes, I thought see like it better with my motion also!

    She’s getting much better with the treat n train since I have been using it for her 2x2s. She has been getting more and more zen with it and definitely developing more drive to it.

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31591
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    Got home from the trial today and gave it try. I wasn’t sure what I would get because I’m sure she’s tired! I think she was better. The water bottle ones were the first we did. Then we did 2×2 weaves for a minute which really puts her in a good mind set! I then came back and then did the last reps! I whispered and locked my arms. I think it was much better! I left my happy skip at the end for you to see. I was so happy😊.

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31561
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    All that sounds good! I do think she was brain tired and just tired from the 2 previous days. She was really struggling with her stay also, which let me know she was in a higher state than I would like. I bought a timer to keep in my pocket for her and I need to use it lol! I will try the exercises right off the bat when I’m sure she’s in a good mindset and see what I get.

    I do own the treat n train and the ready treat. The treat n train is not a magnet yet to her. I was unsuccessful with it in the past when I would try to use it with much motion from me. She would get frustrated with it and bite it or growl at it. The food delivery it offers is a little slow for her sometimes. I am currently using it in weave training (your class!) and her relationship is becoming much better with it. I haven’t seen the frustration with it that I saw previously. Of course I’m not having very much motion with that eitheršŸ˜‚. The ready treat she is better with it, so this is a tool I can use also.

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31525
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    I played around with this for a few gos this afternoon. I had her run to the food clam on the ground. I could get it to the entrance of the wing without any jump ups or barks. Behind the wing was too far and elicited a jump up or growl.

    I may have still been too exciting with my verbals.

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31520
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    I can’t complain much about the wraps exits. She was wide with the first attempt with the jump but seemed to fix it the next rep on her own. I can’t help but feeling frustrated with the two wing wraps though. I tried the water bottle and even without I know my arms were locked, but she kept up the jumping behavior regardless. I had a hard time holding the toy, water bottle and her reset cookie which she needs badly still. I even tried the wings where I don’t have to take a step and she would jump up still. She did start out more aroused today than I would have liked. She struggles so much with her mindset and arousalšŸ˜ž.

    Wondering if I should just let it go? It seems if I balance lots of go’s she doesn’t present the behavior. For example her class behavior wrap was perfect. I’m really at a loss sometimes on what to do with her.
    Wondering also if I should try just food rewards for a little while?

    in reply to: Amy and Promise(13 months) #31501
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    Haha! Well, I got quite the surprise! When I read the title I did not expect to see you with an actual drink in your handšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚! Good thing it’s evening and I wasn’t drinking my coffeešŸ˜‚. Yes, I believe you are on to something! And it’s interesting how I don’t fling for the first rep but do for the secondšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚! I will give it try tomorrow, with water not my coffee yet lol!

    Why does this dog insist on pushing me so hardšŸ˜‚! I get away with NOTHING! She has instituted nothing in life is free for mešŸ˜‚. She’s one of those dogs that changes everything.

    in reply to: Promise and Amy #29321
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    Hi! Skipping to planning and implementation. I NEED a start line stay. I’ve been blessed before and my dogs gave me a good one with very little work. Not happening this time lol! So I choose to work on this as my planning behavior.

    End result- I want Promise to go between my legs, sit and then hold her stay till I say Free

    A- shhhh or saying place

    B- rewarding the stay with either cookie, catch, or release word then get it, or release and shhh

    C- meatballs in this session😊. I upped the reward a ton. I realized yesterday that she thought kibble was just not worth the waitšŸ˜‚. I could not use a toy also in the session, because I discovered meatballs are the key to lifešŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. We will have to work that behavior separately.
    I also have plans to use other tennis ball all on its on. That is also a super high value reward. The chuck it is all powerful. Too bad I can’t run in the ring with one šŸ˜‚.

    So here it is. I did change things up with reinforcement commands. Hopefully that’s ok. Since it is a stay I thought this was important. One question on the cookie reward. I wasn’t quite sure if this correct command. I want to reward duration of position, but I don’t not want cookie to mean move. All the other reinforcement commands signal moving from position. Sometimes when I use cookie for instance to start another behavior it does not signify this, it just means come to me to start another behavior. Am I overthinking this and she’ll figure it out or do I need a separate word to mean you’re getting rewarded but do not move??

    Also, I wasn’t sure on always starting with shhh, so I did say place a couple times. I did not want her to think shhh was the place command.

    Trying to fix her default behavior of offering a down as I say wait and step away. I thought it was cute, but it was just not working. I thought hard about this yesterday. She was moving ā€œoffering the downā€ when not asked which in turn made her think she did not have to stay since she was choosing the down, not me.

    Also hate I had to miss zoom, my middle daughter had a concert. Go Band!! They were wonderful.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by Amy Wilson.
    in reply to: Promise and Amy #29220
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    This is great!!! This is all such fascinating stuff!!! What an informative session. Running is a huge value for her, but for reasons still unknown to me these barrels became crack to her after a couple of sessions with them in max pup 1. My little girl with her BIG opinions is teaching me a lot. Like they say what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger😜. She may still kill me though, at least it just her toys for now šŸ˜‚.

    Can’t wait to play with this and see what happens.

    in reply to: Promise and Amy #29201
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    Skipping ahead to leash as toys as it’s a nasty rainy day here. Left this video a little long. At first she was somewhat interested, but not fully interested. Chasing and Grabbing, but not grabbing fully and not really interested in ā€œstrikeā€ or get it. I brought out her laundry hamper wraps as these have huge value for her. Holy smokes… talk about transfer of valuešŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. She still was not fully into strike with it. I did run into a little problem of her ā€œextreme value for the wrapsā€ and not as much for the leash and got some lip for it. Interested to see what you would do here and if I did the right thing as I got screamed atšŸ˜‚.

    Rewatched and now I am thinking her ā€œattitudeā€ was about the strike really.

    My tiny girl with her big feelings!!!šŸ˜‚

    in reply to: Promise and Amy #29179
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    >> Yes, a little – I think you were making it progressively harder, rather than gradually harder. What I mean by that is there was not enough of a ping pong effect where you did an easy one then a hard one then n easy one then a hard one. Each rep was progressively more challenging, so she had a little more trouble like with the repeated hand touches (she was like, why do you want another one LOL!) and then from no lead out to a pretty long lead out (she was pretty good, just a little butt lift then she put it back down).

    Yes the ping ponging was my mistake!!! I really have to consciously think about doing this to do actually do this.

    in reply to: Promise and Amy #29174
    Amy Wilson
    Participant

    Remote reinforcement

    I feel I struggled with this game. I also Did NOT have enough coffee this a.m.
    We had a fabulous, fabulous first session, but I forgot to hit record again😫. Blessing in disguise, because she built up a lot of value for her pink bag and I had a much harder time with it in this session. Everything was ok at first and then I started getting harder and lost her.
    I feel like I turned this more into a distraction exercise by the end of this video 😳lol!

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