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Amy Wilson
Participant2 jumps! I knew she was a right sided dog before this. Further proof lol! I tried to do the bell curve with her on this as much as possible. The left turns with motion were not happening todayš. Also I felt like she may have been curling in too much on those goās. Iām trying not to mark the mistakes but oooh is out of my mouth before I realize it! At least Iām recognizing that. Thatās the first step rightššš?
Amy Wilson
ParticipantYes, the weave training has been another light bulb moment with her for me. If I only knew all these things the previous year with her lol!!! I think for quite awhile I was not using food as much as I could have with her. She’s really my first sheltie that is toy driven. I worked super hard on that with her as a puppy. She was much more food motivated at first than toys(Hello Sheltie). I would lose her toy focus sometimes with food and I think I was just scared to use the food. I really did need to use the food though!!! When Breeze got injured in your previous class and Promise took his place was when I really started to see a change with her. You suggested the reset cookie and that changed a lot for her! Her reinforcement rate also has to be EXTREMELY high(as should all dogs)!!! I was able to get away with not being as consistent with my reinforcement rate with my first two shelties(Potter is an absolute Saint of a dog) but Promise says she will only accept the best trainer lol!!! No sloppiness allowed!!! I have adding food A LOT more to my training sessions and I’m seeing much better results because of it. I have also not seen the loss of toy drive with her either! Im starting with food with all things right now to teach a behavior and then adding the toy after the behavior has a general understanding. I’m seeing much better results.
Finally here is a list of my verbals
Extension: GO– take the line of jumps in front of you as fast as you can leaving me in the dust- center of bar
Over– take the jump relatively straight. Can also be a very slight curve. mostly center of bar
Get Out- change leads and go away taking obstacle away from me. center of bar
Turn cues:
Wraps- check check check- wrap jump 180 to right-jumping right near wing
dig dig dig- wrap jump 180 to left-jumping right near wing
left- turn 90ish degrees to left nearish wing
right- turn 90ish degrees to right nearish wingSwitch- this is my rear cross cue. I do have big questions on this after last nights
video chat. I do realize it is a “VAGUE” cue. Rears are more and more being presented in different ways. It was my word for either side too. Wondering what to do on this????backside slice verbal- back back back wrap around backside of jump and take bar at a slice angle going in new direction
backside wrap verbal- wrap wrap wrap. come in close to wing and wrap 180 back
Threadle slice- in in in come in between jumps and take jump at a slice
Threadle wrap- haha I need this in my life!!! will think of a word. Probably will steal Carrie’s and Jamies lol
Tunnel threadle–here here here. take opposite side of tunnel you are presented with
Go tunnel. take tunnel and extend out on line
tunnel- take tunnel
free- release word
READY- automatic down, when you do I lead out and we get the party startedOf course she has all the toy reinforcement words and many other things. Im too lazy to list them all. The toy reinforcement words helped a ton with her. Another game changing moment with her. One thing with the treat n train too was I changed its reinforcement word to snacks. When I said get it she was looking for toy and that was causing some frustration with the sloooow to deliver food robot.
Sorry for the book!!! Today is a day of rest for puppy!!!
Amy Wilson
Participantāā-She had more trouble towards the end of the session, when you were doing the wing wraps to the left turns. I think that was more arousal-based. That is something youāve seen ā when arousal is higher, she has more questions and errors (totally normal!!). So here is an idea: set up your session as a bell curve. Start with a couple of easy reps to each side, as a bit fo a warm up. Then, before the arousal kicks in, do a couple of harder reps (the start wrap to the left turns with you moving a bit more were definitely harder!) Then after a couple of reps, wind down the session with a few easier ones, similar to what you did at the beginning (like the last couple of left turns you had on this video). That way, you work the harder stuff before the arousal kicks in fully. Then when she is really stimulated, you ask her is she can still do the easy stuff!āā
Ohh I love this idea!!! I know it will work! It does works with her staysš! Your stay class drove this point home to me with her! I will write this on my field guide! Unfortunately I didnāt realize about the field guide on this one lol! I clicked on the next lesson and it was the field guideš! So helpful. Thank you for providing it.
Yes, she still struggles with her temper! I do feel like itās getting better and I might not get eaten in the ring anymore, but we will seeš. I need to remember to be faster with the reset cookie.
The weave training with her has been sooooo good for her. She has to stay in a calm state to do it and she is amazingly doing it! Sheās learning so much patience and Iām amazed the Tasmanian devil does not make its appearance during those sessions! For some reason she does not lose her mind. Iām following your independent online class. Itās probably the reset cookie that she gets every time with that. No frustration, lots of fun. Her new zen self is starting to surface in other places tooš.
See you tonight! Canāt wait.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantI was really happy with this. Overall Iām really impressed with how well she knows her words!!! Hurray for max pup. Looking at the video I maybe needed to add more walking. Itās hard lol because she is so fast, sheās at the wing faster than I would think. I did reward inappropriately a few times too, but Itās seems no harm was done lol!!! Sheās better with right than left. It was interesting that when I decided to loop back with a mistake I got the same jumping up behavior as the double wraps! It also interesting how I get louder and higher pitched with motionšš! That I might need to work on with her. Iām all zen walking and then I add motion and go up a few levels ššš.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantYes, I thought see like it better with my motion also!
Sheās getting much better with the treat n train since I have been using it for her 2x2s. She has been getting more and more zen with it and definitely developing more drive to it.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantGot home from the trial today and gave it try. I wasnāt sure what I would get because Iām sure sheās tired! I think she was better. The water bottle ones were the first we did. Then we did 2×2 weaves for a minute which really puts her in a good mind set! I then came back and then did the last reps! I whispered and locked my arms. I think it was much better! I left my happy skip at the end for you to see. I was so happyš.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantAll that sounds good! I do think she was brain tired and just tired from the 2 previous days. She was really struggling with her stay also, which let me know she was in a higher state than I would like. I bought a timer to keep in my pocket for her and I need to use it lol! I will try the exercises right off the bat when Iām sure sheās in a good mindset and see what I get.
I do own the treat n train and the ready treat. The treat n train is not a magnet yet to her. I was unsuccessful with it in the past when I would try to use it with much motion from me. She would get frustrated with it and bite it or growl at it. The food delivery it offers is a little slow for her sometimes. I am currently using it in weave training (your class!) and her relationship is becoming much better with it. I havenāt seen the frustration with it that I saw previously. Of course Iām not having very much motion with that eitherš. The ready treat she is better with it, so this is a tool I can use also.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantI played around with this for a few gos this afternoon. I had her run to the food clam on the ground. I could get it to the entrance of the wing without any jump ups or barks. Behind the wing was too far and elicited a jump up or growl.
I may have still been too exciting with my verbals.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantI canāt complain much about the wraps exits. She was wide with the first attempt with the jump but seemed to fix it the next rep on her own. I canāt help but feeling frustrated with the two wing wraps though. I tried the water bottle and even without I know my arms were locked, but she kept up the jumping behavior regardless. I had a hard time holding the toy, water bottle and her reset cookie which she needs badly still. I even tried the wings where I donāt have to take a step and she would jump up still. She did start out more aroused today than I would have liked. She struggles so much with her mindset and arousalš.
Wondering if I should just let it go? It seems if I balance lots of goās she doesnāt present the behavior. For example her class behavior wrap was perfect. Iām really at a loss sometimes on what to do with her.
Wondering also if I should try just food rewards for a little while?
Amy Wilson
ParticipantHaha! Well, I got quite the surprise! When I read the title I did not expect to see you with an actual drink in your handšš! Good thing itās evening and I wasnāt drinking my coffeeš. Yes, I believe you are on to something! And itās interesting how I donāt fling for the first rep but do for the secondšš! I will give it try tomorrow, with water not my coffee yet lol!
Why does this dog insist on pushing me so hardš! I get away with NOTHING! She has instituted nothing in life is free for meš. Sheās one of those dogs that changes everything.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantHi! Skipping to planning and implementation. I NEED a start line stay. Iāve been blessed before and my dogs gave me a good one with very little work. Not happening this time lol! So I choose to work on this as my planning behavior.
End result- I want Promise to go between my legs, sit and then hold her stay till I say Free
A- shhhh or saying place
B- rewarding the stay with either cookie, catch, or release word then get it, or release and shhh
C- meatballs in this sessionš. I upped the reward a ton. I realized yesterday that she thought kibble was just not worth the waitš. I could not use a toy also in the session, because I discovered meatballs are the key to lifešš. We will have to work that behavior separately.
I also have plans to use other tennis ball all on its on. That is also a super high value reward. The chuck it is all powerful. Too bad I canāt run in the ring with one š.So here it is. I did change things up with reinforcement commands. Hopefully thatās ok. Since it is a stay I thought this was important. One question on the cookie reward. I wasnāt quite sure if this correct command. I want to reward duration of position, but I donāt not want cookie to mean move. All the other reinforcement commands signal moving from position. Sometimes when I use cookie for instance to start another behavior it does not signify this, it just means come to me to start another behavior. Am I overthinking this and sheāll figure it out or do I need a separate word to mean youāre getting rewarded but do not move??
Also, I wasnāt sure on always starting with shhh, so I did say place a couple times. I did not want her to think shhh was the place command.
Trying to fix her default behavior of offering a down as I say wait and step away. I thought it was cute, but it was just not working. I thought hard about this yesterday. She was moving āoffering the downā when not asked which in turn made her think she did not have to stay since she was choosing the down, not me.
Also hate I had to miss zoom, my middle daughter had a concert. Go Band!! They were wonderful.
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ParticipantThis is great!!! This is all such fascinating stuff!!! What an informative session. Running is a huge value for her, but for reasons still unknown to me these barrels became crack to her after a couple of sessions with them in max pup 1. My little girl with her BIG opinions is teaching me a lot. Like they say what doesnāt kill you makes you strongerš. She may still kill me though, at least it just her toys for now š.
Canāt wait to play with this and see what happens.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantSkipping ahead to leash as toys as itās a nasty rainy day here. Left this video a little long. At first she was somewhat interested, but not fully interested. Chasing and Grabbing, but not grabbing fully and not really interested in āstrikeā or get it. I brought out her laundry hamper wraps as these have huge value for her. Holy smokes⦠talk about transfer of valueššš. She still was not fully into strike with it. I did run into a little problem of her āextreme value for the wrapsā and not as much for the leash and got some lip for it. Interested to see what you would do here and if I did the right thing as I got screamed atš.
Rewatched and now I am thinking her āattitudeā was about the strike really.
My tiny girl with her big feelings!!!š
Amy Wilson
Participant>> Yes, a little ā I think you were making it progressively harder, rather than gradually harder. What I mean by that is there was not enough of a ping pong effect where you did an easy one then a hard one then n easy one then a hard one. Each rep was progressively more challenging, so she had a little more trouble like with the repeated hand touches (she was like, why do you want another one LOL!) and then from no lead out to a pretty long lead out (she was pretty good, just a little butt lift then she put it back down).
Yes the ping ponging was my mistake!!! I really have to consciously think about doing this to do actually do this.
Amy Wilson
ParticipantRemote reinforcement
I feel I struggled with this game. I also Did NOT have enough coffee this a.m.
We had a fabulous, fabulous first session, but I forgot to hit record againš«. Blessing in disguise, because she built up a lot of value for her pink bag and I had a much harder time with it in this session. Everything was ok at first and then I started getting harder and lost her.
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