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beverley thomson
Participantbacking up is much better now my mechanicas improed.
With the barrell was having trouble getting him distracted off toy even before lined up. He was better once we stopped working had same issue today I thik it is just him still working out when he goes to toy. Plus I went too fast in this one I did have a lead down but hard to see on video moved it three times.
here is the game with the exciting novety it was a boring toy and he did well first made the mistake of sending hi to it when whe went well this muddy the situation bad me.
The blind cross- two isseues me…. and the lack of distance from ziv with a thrown toy. I did try previously with a toy but couldnt get away from him. he just chased me because I had the toy.
here is our treat toss
here is our prop work I had treatrs in my hand which got him a bit focused on my hand sometimes did some lateral and some throw back was finding my mechnics hard – think he unnstood better than me.
Thanks Beverley
beverley thomson
Participantsome fun games here- like the way of teaching backup. Didnt quite get mechanics right with Ziv but did better with In synch so will redo with Ziv
also tried barrel send. Ziv loved this although coupe of times he had trouble going from toy reward back to work- a good thing for him to be learning so bonus
beverley thomson
ParticipantThanks
Yes he has got good at focusing on what is ahead.
Rewards have done toy swaps he does well on that. food to toys is good but struggles more going from toy to food still working on this. Retrieve is a struggle can get him back almost most of the time- sometims get it back . value definitely with toys but not as obcessed as In Synch.
Looking forward to next games
beverley thomson
ParticipantOkay here is our next set of work
our race to toy
reworked wobble board with pillow other way definitely helped although he didnt care
about wobble
re worked wing work
holding collar worked much better small things change picture so much
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Participanthi
heres next stage of bowl work I think it worked well he had a few questions but worked it out
Plank work I was trying to get him to slow down a bit wonder whether I should raise it. He was having fun. Think was using food and toy too much as lure but trying to get him to settle down.
Wobble board he had no worries about jumping on I had intended to start with just a pillow but saw that was a waste of time. Only issue with wobble board is he hasnt got strength yet to manage the wobble so ended up holding it so easier.
Okay the self control was a fail. We did work it through a little. I think I should have started with lower value food rather tha a low value toy. ended up spending most of session just working on leaving the toy alone that was so hard, need to rethink my approach here
Beverley
beverley thomson
ParticipantTry Again
I am renovating so lots weird things end up on porch but will try and get inventive not my strong suit.
Been doing abit with toy going well
Here is my latest work with cone and two bowls done before yesterday.
here is our work with the different reward markers- Ziv is used to find it food and get it toy Plus catch it – forgot here. But bite and treat were new as didnt have a word for on me Not sure where you use the side one so much
did with all my dogs Fusion and veloz a great reminder. In Synch obviously need to do alot more of this.looking forward to the other games this week. I like the look of the self control game that is different to things have tried before. Ziv found skateboard so will be interested to see how he works with skateboard.
beverley thomson
ParticipantThanks for suggestions _ I think I should be adding energy and movement with food rewards and he tries so hard it is easy to get to push just a little too far. I will look at using a toy as that will increase his motivation and energy. Didnt want to use a toy at start as he doesnt think as well when a toy is present but he has more fun.
Will also add self control game with a toy. I do do something very similar with a toy as we play alot of get the toy and run to toyt and chase toy just as fun but learning
Because I am lazy usually we train with lots of neutral novel things present – training things (when doing stuff In Synch and fusion) clothes leads, often toys but boring ones , as one thing I have worked on from the start is playing with me regardless of what else is around – although not alot with good toys as that is too hard.
Beverley
beverley thomson
Participanthi
I added a cone in to the 2 bowls currently its very close and he is going back and forwards nicely. forgot to video
Here is our send work to prop
added more exciting i.e. a toy and more novel things a broom into the treat toss game he was more aware of them
beverley thomson
ParticipantThanks lots to tighten up
“think he is more food motivated than she was at this age? You can break things off between every 2 or 3 treats to play tug – that will keep him from looking for treats a lot, and help him drive back to the prop more.”
Insynch had no food drive at this age- her food drive currently is where his is now. Makes a lovely change. Although still not great in that cant use kibble or anything like that it has to be high value andn any toy trumps. So I have done alot of switching between the two and he will stay engaged and working with food when a toy is around now. As long as toy comes out frequently as a break in between.“Since the toy drive looked good, try to tug tug tug then trade for a treat – and as you deliver a treat, line him up at your side. Do all this before you take his collar and avoid grabbing, pulling or ”
like this he tends to back away from toy when he thinks I am going to throw it – think he wants a head start,,,,, so like this idea He has good toy drive without it being over the top like his sister.“He was super keen to drive to you! As you move away from him, stay connected so the instant he starts moving towards you, you slow down a lot and show him your hand next to your leg. Letting him see the early decel cues will let him organize and slow down to arrive straight at your side. When you didn’t slow down, you can see his bum was swinging wide because he didn’t have time to shift into deceleration.”
thanks didnt notice that he loves chasing me but will work on my mechanics
stealth game
“Wrigged no engagement with me and straight to toy.>We don’t want to start with something that hard 🙂 For now, using distractions that are not as interesting ”
🙂I agree which was why I was surprised this top nstructor did it.
He generally doesnt seem to notice static things in his environment when he understands and is engaged.here is our change in arousal video. Probably expected abit much as we have done a bit with two feet onto something butthis was new. When asked to work again after the toy there was a little are you sure. I need to do more of this with all my dogs…..
Go with prop
flooring struggled with a little inside he is good but not much room, outside on grass or dirt not keen on finding and eating the treat so went to porch. Have now tried some covers. When put a sheet down he dint like that. The one in this video is my best attempt yet and he did seem happier. Started to add the send athough I noticed I am still moving but he is driving ahead more
I wasnt very happy with the two bowls game so redid it. Was much smoother although he still thinks it would be much quicker if he came straight to my hands holding the food- he is still checking them out but a sign he is thinking things thru. ignore first bit video didnt edit off start
wasnt sure whether you had any comments on pre game hand touch. But have done it again. any comments on mechanics before I do further work on this- so much easier biggerdog where dont need to reach down,,,
Thanks Beverley
beverley thomson
Participantpost 2 here are some of our attempts at games set one. Some we have already played a little with or something similar.
focus forward toy on long line so couldnt vanish not sure quite played this right toys are his number 1 motivatoor at moment.
game 2 treat toss issues treats going down cracks- treats are small alwise he spends ages chewing them
wing wra start- watching video thnk needed to make more noise when placing treat to make it more obvious at start
blind cross- handler mechanics not good ziv perfect..
The stealth game i am not sure how it different from treat toss – is it that we are not moving. Have done this sort of thing a lot I am lazy so often things I have been using in class or with other dogs are around or toys he doesnt care or even notice. He would maybe notice a toy if I hadnt engaged him first or if a toy was actively being used. The only time he has paid any attention to the novel was at a puppy class. First exercise inside lots of toy play. Then outside instructor tossed toy. Held Ziv I walked acouple of steps away I was supposed to collect him to me and then release to a toy- he watched the other pups. Wrigged no engagement with me and straight to toy.
So far he is amazingly reilient he has been out in different environments alot- loves sniffing and exploring
beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
He is very different than In Synch in that he is much more thoughtful. I should have thought of that as he does get very sticky when things are less movey. Changing reward replacement made a big difference apart from fact we were on porch in shade and treat kept going down cracks- he wasnt impressed when that happened.
beverley thomson
Participanthere is our first go at using the foot touch on prop- he was quite unsure I forget sometimes how much of a baby he is. he does so much so well i forget he is only 15 wks. Also super hot today so nobody very energetic
beverley thomson
Participanthere is a video of the palm touch start.
beverley thomson
Participantokay I have edited the other video. I had to work with fusion to get it but it flowed. In Synch I had to support more and then got stuck so couldnt get to the next spot but we got pieces. Her understanding of the backside wrap is still not completely there but it is coming, I kept wanting to move a fraction too soon. basically the bits I got right she got right.
we have been working hard on her stay – sometimes it shows and sometimes it looks as if she has never been asked for a stay.
beverley thomson
Participanthi
Okay I have been experimenting I think the issue is that neither of my dogs understand their turn cues on a verbal so when I am not on the same side as verbal they go for where I am – so been doing some work on this slow progress. This is worse when I am moving less or coming out of a tunnel.
Did some traning at weekend finally some sun. Saturday things we struggled. But sunday both dogs enjoyed the exercise. I set up one of popouts with weaves. In Synch weave is coming but she still struggles so didnt really expect alot as not done weaves as part of a proper sequence before. But I was pleased she seems to be starting to understand backsides even if we got a slice instead of a wrap sometimes.
will edit videos tomorrow and hope to get another training session in before leave to look after dad tomorrow.
Beverley
PS Maybe that sun session training with friends so spent quite abit of time looking at lines- another sign should walk courses more in training. But also amazed at how focused both my dogs have got when lots distractions- people, dogs, horse poo, horses rabbits etc. -
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