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is this better. If so will put some legs on it and secure the yoga mat.
Once he is waiting on it near jumps tunnels. I assume then we get him to go over and then get him to wait again. I will put yoga mat on so cant slip if hits it fast but not sure when he would.I did a session with veloz at homewood. I am struggling to get him to use bowls when we link more together. Once he starts doing more the value of food drops away and a toy works better. Although he does like the snuffle mat at the end of a session to chill down. This was quite a long session as you can see we did alot of jumps. He was having fun and not boiling over. He was sitting well at the end I did try getting him to go to bowl but got resistence. I was also not getting a wait or sit at start but that was probably too much when there was alot of other stuff going on.
Hi
this week and a bit last week things are starting to get sort of normal. Veloz seems to be bouncing back after been quite touchy for the last month. Maybe our lack of progress is partly affected by events bad timing.
Tried platform near jump but was too close moved it back still sruggle. did a snuffle mat session in middle this did settle him abit. Left in struggles
here is find my face on a long line- very similar. to short lead. I think it might be time to try this closer to equipment as he seems to e getting it and not shutting down
This video is something I have been working hard on. He has always been super sensitive to undoing clip on lead. moved to a martingale and he is settling and waiting. Video not so much for you but me to remind me things are happening even if slowly.
I aslo did a session with jumps. it had a tunnel in it- he still struggles with tunnel jump combination. However, it also had 4 pole weaves (it was set up for my class). To my surprise he worked the weaves and even when made mistakes he didnt loss it. only a few minutes but liked that he didnt loss it when he was unsure. Used bowls around the weave Video didnt work.
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?? he doesnt have a head halter on for find my face = I rarely if ever use one on him these days. He is on lead because with a disconnect his habit has been to leave= should have had him on a long line and probably now days needed less.
in the ring not shadow handling as such as no food in rings. I did alot outside the ring. I was just wanting an interaction listening to me asking for sits in ring situation and no eye spins. He was relaxed although alert.
I did have his snuffle mat just outside camera and we did a session at the end. I wasnt organised to have bowls in car.
will managed to do some work yesterday between rain and classes although cold and extremely windy- I think summer missed us this year.
I was pleased – as havent done any jumping for ages due to weather. I didnt really have a plan as it was abit spontaneous and I should have moved more. I do think carrying a toy improved things although I was also using food rewards. But much more settled (relatively) at the starts. (bad trainer I didnt have bowls or platform with me). I did a snuffle mat season at the end with toy retrieve and tug sessions through out.
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Thanks
Food scatter if he is high he is not interested although once he has started to settle he goes back to check it out. I have been using the snuffle mat at the end of a session.
Attached video of find my face on porch
I was away at a show this weekend – I think we all feel a little better for having been away. It was nice spending ages in shower and getting all my washing done with no guilt and quality internet. My two competing dogs worked well and veloz was relaxed and settled.
here is a little of veloz work in ring- he is on his toes and very alert but settled. I did alot of snuffle, bowl and shadow handling as well as lead on and off around the edges of the rings as well.I assume you are talking about game with toy and mat so hyped up calm repeat game. He loves this game. but havent played it as much lately. will put it on list this week.
am hoping to get some jump work this week although currently raining again. will try to get more movement in tunnel work- i think it is because so busy thinking about him I forget about what i am doing…
the next video is platform work before your above comments but think it was a better session- maybe the platform was slightly more level- dont need to watch.
I think one of issues platform is my lawn is sloped so not a flat surface and harder to get onto. He has no issues inside. I dont have a larger platform or a raised bed that is stable enougn that he will get onto ( one previous instructor we did a lot on a raised bed and actively avoids it even in house)
next video also before comments so not importnat to watch. but it was a better tunnel exercise. Seems to be better when I have a toy which I find a little strange as the toy increases arousal but suppose balanced by also higher value. He was hyped inthis session but working hard to hold together. will try to move more next time
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Thanks for that.
I find it hard to work out how to push myself out of the comfort zone but not do the same for him. He is quite inconsistent at the moment – better than being consistently over. I do find it interesting he settled with the toy even though toys send high higher but that also have higher value. He is not really good on food scatter.
here is a repost of platform video- this was his third session and probably his worst.
Beverley
Here is our stuff from last week
video 1 using a platform with waits. This is his third session I didnt get film of the earlier ones. He was less settled in this session- didnt really want to wait.
video 2
tunnel work- he was a bit hyped in this session. second bit is on a different day and I used a toy to encourage a sit. A toy makes him higher but he works harder to focus
video 3
Was me playing using a toy on a chair as distraction and get wraps around barrel plus sits and rewarding with a toy tossSorry missed the zoom. I wssnt aware there was a time change.
I havent posted last weeks video as i am lost about what to do at the start. After last 1on1 you were going to review video and then last thursday when discussed again you said you would give me some ideas when you had a chance to review the previous two weeks video. The isdue as raised is he cant sit to start when any possibility of doing equipment. We struggle taking off lead. Have been trying different startegied as shown in videos and out of ideas. Prrviously we poisoned sit cue trying to fix issue. I have run out of ideas. Hard to move forward without something here. As identified previously with out a stable behaviour to start his arousal is climbing. Have tried using a platform so far result much same.
Apologies again for missong meeting. I organised dogs and logged on at normal time.
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I waited to post this video for last week as I was waiting for your feedback from the previous week as discussed on at the 1on1. I was worried about whether I was handling the start line stuff okay as he tends to shut down abit then. Sorry it is too long but for some reason the video editor wasnt allowing me to edit so skip the empty pieces.
As discussed i am unsure that veloz has enougn value for manners minda as he has never been keen on it. he is showing alot more interest in it now. I did get three tunnels several times. he is definitely aroused doing start line stuff as his teeth are chattering but as usual the sit is the first thing to go. It was poisoned earlier when did startwork and associated with pressure. But he is starting to work this thru slowly. Some of video you can see him running off to offer jumps etc.
Beverley
Hi
Not sure whether should be posting this as havent had any comments back on last weeks video yet.
Sorry about muddy attair- had been cleaning flood rubbish and decided to try and get something done before it rained again. Removed sheep and goats temporarily.
After thursday live did some thinking. Firstly I have a manners minda which veloz has always been too wired to use very much- okay inside but not much outside. Secondly I need a decent wait or something at start in order to be able to differentiate wait and go. Am starting to be able to do this with mat and or bowl for finish. But at start he takes off to do things and either self rewarding or gets frustrated. Unless I use snuffle mat and using it here was starting to poison the calmness of the snuffle mat. So need to retrain this in some way. Cant do homework at the moment as too wet and think that we will just increase this issue of how to get clarity as he gets more hyped.
So I got out my manners minda. We did a little work to remind him what it is inside and on porch. I was getting some sit and down around bowl but he was taking from bowl and as soon as took from bowl going over jump. So then did some work manners minda- Heavily rewarded at minda and tried to keep my body language very calm when not running and energetic when running. He left maners minda a bit but returned. To start with he was confused but he worked thruogh. I was pushing minda frequently even if he left so that he was encouraged to go back to it in a way similar to catch it from Tracy where she tosses the treat back to where they were supposed to be sitting even if they have moved. I would have prefered a sit to a down but he was working hard and need to work up to facing the jump . I started to be able to leave him (previously it wouldnt have matter how many treats or what they were he would have left as soon as I moved) I realise this is not ideal but I want to break the habit when we are near jumps we go over them, we get a treat from bowl we offer going over jump to come back and get another treat. Even though we had only three jumps in a straight line his arousal was up. I am planning to introduce Traceys terminal game too. this is where treats are left and walk away take lead off and then return treats etc. I was pleased that although his brain was smoking he was still thinking and he didnt get over frustrated.
Hi Bobbie
Rained again so flooded again and more rain expected today plus having extra dogs staying as their homes not habitable has meant not alot done this week. Have bern doing alot of mat and snuffle mat work inside plus pattern games to keep stress levels down.
Did get onr trip to training area. Both stressed plus kennels full of stressed displaced dogs. So just had some fun was going to do some handling but focused on lrtting veloz stretch legs and reintroduce bowls around agility equipment. Veliz was much happier definitely quite high but was still thinking as demonstrated by still being able to sit. The ability to sit is one of the first behaviours to go. There was alot of food on ground as had a class before this. But the slight reluctance disappeared fast. I did do some shadow handling and toy tosses as well.
Was pleased with tunnel work yes did get a bounce but less intensity and it is not that long ago that even doing one tunnel sent him high.
If this afternnons storm stays away hope to do some box work but not hopeful. It is supposed to be summer here- normally issue is drought not floods. Got water back yesterday although not drinkable and internet intermittent
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Thanks for that
He has been good on lead walking into and around the ring for the last eight trials with no pulling on lead (about 46 times)- managing to sit etc. But since then we have introduced some doing equipment at home so when we were doing no equipment he was managing to walk and respond to behaviours ie sit do tricks etc. Then at last two shows I have put him over practise jumps with no issues (still did walking into ring etc on lead for a range of classes). I am not sure what the difference was here (apart from me) in this is the first time for ages I have had the pulling on lead in the ring.
Since starting to do obstacles again having several issues- he is struggling to sit and struggling being on lead. I agree about the collar holding but I also dont want him just taking obstacles at random as this also builds frustration. At our talk I would like to talk about the lead issue that has reared its head again since starting back on equipment. I feel as if this is following the same pattern as when started training. when I first trained him I used shadow handling and a bowl for reward.
In this video- we havent done much as we were both stressed this week. If I dont hold his collar he is taking agility equipment. If I put a lead on he is fighting (see video) that if he thinks there is any possibility he can go over equipment. If I just walk him around he is fine. He was starting to ramp up if I put the snuffle mat out so I have done alot of just feeding him from the snuffle mat and doing nothing else by equipment. But I am feeling resistance as in okay I will eat can I now go do something.. (okay I dont know whether that is what he is thinking but that is what it looks like). I was feeding on snuffle mat for up to five minutes between reps at home but had trouble getting him to stay eating- he would eat a bit and want to leave and do a tunnel or a jump. The interesting thing is that in more high pressure places he has a different attitude – he wants it and I see him start to relax as he eats. At home I am getting abit of the opposite.
At homewood (not home) I brought out a toy- believe it or not he is more toy orientated as I felt he was shutting down on me. I am not sure this was the right thing to do. Previously I went to a trainer where we did alot of one obstacle then mat work and he started to avoid the mat (he still avoids the mat if I try and do it near agility equipment- I felt that trying to relax on the mat he felt too much pressure even when quite a distance. while before that he was happy relaxing on his mat next to ring.
I havent had any bounces this week. But I am also seeing the stressing down more – always before he has actually enjoyed agility between the frustration. I wonder whether I should allow him to ramp up a little bit. When he is running loose his face when he does a few obstacles at speed makes my heart sing- I am not seeing that when we are training at the moment. Struggling to find that middle ground with keeping him so under control he is not having fun and having him go too high and getting the frustration
Video shows lead issue- I did a lot of shadow handling and worked his tricks after this. I am still doing all the other exercises away from equipment and have spent quite abit of time this week working around equipment again.
Sorry about long message but I am confused and conflicted as feel as if going backwards and in circles. Hopefully we can talk some of this through tomorrow
Beverley
PS yes I think I built in the frustration to agility but think alot of it was partly there because of my inability to do much with him at critical stages . Interestingly we worked sheep with him once before I started agility training and the same behaviours showed in that he got angry when the sheep didnt do what he wanted immediately. Sometimes think he sees me as one of those nauughty sheep not going and doing what he wants..week 4 homework
Tunnel
I had to start super close so as not to get a boil over. In addition it was easier in one direction. I have also done a session with me further up the tunnel similar result but video didnt get turned on. But using a tunnel is going to be slow for a while
two jumps
He wasnt very settled this time- alot of dogs and activity in kennels. It was also super hot.
Ring
I have been doing alot of work in and out of the rings- lead on lead off with a second lead etc and run out to snuffle mat he has got very settled with this although still on his toes. Very friendly show so thought I would add a jump in. (first bit of video ignore a just for me he was lying in the holding area while I got organised very relaxed. I was nervous about putting him over a jump and organising somebody to make sure food in mat plus final jump along way from holding area (holding area- no other dogs but can have food) – he obviously picked up on this as he went up into the bottom of the red zone- but I still got a sit. I let him go over a jump but no clear directions so took another and then he went okay and headed to snuffle mat. was pleased he didnt explode and changed back down to yellow. This is the first time I have seen him start to go off the scale and control it. I know it wasnt ideal and alot to keep working onAm going to start recording on a numeric scale from 1 to 12 . 1 being close to ideal and over 12 being off his head and no longer in control as I am starting to see gradations as opposed to extremes. In additon I will take note of how fast he drops back down and whether he does it or I have to interven.
So around the ring and in holding area with food he is about a 1-2. In ring no food on lead about 2-3. Taking lead off and on or asking for a wait before a jump about a 3-4. Doing two jumps ranges from 5-8 occasionally to a 10. Tunnel at what doing from a 7 to 10. Taking a jump off lead about a 10. Before he spent alot of time at 12 or over.
Hi Bobbie
re what talked in session. here are the videos of going from sunuffle mat to the tunnel. I didnt ask for it – he dived to tunnel so didnt think that was a good thing
first two times I went up the tunnel and he didnt go back to snuffle mat but no leaping at me either. Other two I stayed at snuffle mat asked him to do snuffle mat. again no leaping.
only leaping was when I took him to the far ed of the tunnel and sent him to snuffle mat – realise it was too far away even though at the end it was not much more than a metre. I realise relooking at videso I was totally stationary and also probably where he expected me to be.All in all as said previously was avery short session as I was not happy with what was happening.
As talked about previously I am concerned that I am creating patterns of behaviour (not proper patterns) 1. which is talked about is snuffle needs to be where he expects it or he gets mad. and that once he has had some food out of snuffle mat he can do agility equipment- leaves food in mat. This is relatively new in terms of snuffle mat – noticed with tunnel here but seen it on jumps before . Not sure whether this is starting to get back into loop of agility equipment must do if off lead.
