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It might be because she isn’t entirely sure, and this also might be because the value of the game is not high enough compared to the distractions in the environment. She did well in the videos here but that seemed to be an easy environment.
we have done these games abit and it hasnt changed much so think main thing is not enougn value. although adding marker will help make sure of clarity – like adding in toy. I suppose I hadnt because it was supposed to be about calm and rhthym and toy adds a nte of chaos and get less thoughtful behaviour when a toy present. want to build her want to do thsi game as use it alot with fusion to keep her settled around ring.
have used dishes before for both side to side game and updwn as means can use more around ring and felt created clarity as to where treat was. but will try using my foot
okay next video edited slightly to remove gettig more treats and when I was sorting out where to go but left in all the chaos.
Acutual excercise abit irrelevant – need to get us connected and wrk out how to push the right buttons . Am starting to get a sit at start but very short. have been trying to do tricks around jumps but chaos. this pog sticking is typcal when every she is keen to do anything. I probably made things worse here as had a toy in my pocket which does make her mad but wanted something in between goes as food is good as a reward at the end but then get mad in transition back to start. Picking her up helps but looking for what to do.
exercises a bit hard but heres my general comments. angle wrong for jump 5 first exercise but my arm crazy and she kept going around the back- should have moved jump 5 to set a better line for her. but need to work out how to get her looking for jump rather than just running. as start to pattern tried exercise 2 I couldnt get there for the push around 3 – should have started at 2 so I was there. Looked at exercise 3 but got a bypass of 2 – would have moved but we had both done more than enougn- found later camera had stopped anyway.
sorry so long but mainly interested in geeral comments of how to work these sessions as I feel as if playing catch up and panic and eed more calm from her at start without the frustration. we have done stuff with just one jump . when we connected things are great but chance rather than skill at the moment. t am starting to get a sit at the start but once she has sat she feels it is okay to start- reasonable waits away from agility now. not sure how to make this clearer to her have been trying a few tricks at start but she is not keen Need to channel this impatience to run and start not quite sure how to do this.
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Do you mean the intensity of wanting to do the pattern games?
think Imean something abit like latency. that she is doing it because i ask but she is easily distracted and progress is slow. I dont thin it is that she doesnt understand the behaviour but she is doing it because i ask her rather than value to her. She can still put energy into it but easily cuts out. the other dogs get excited when I set up she doesnt really.I havent really found the full art of reinforcement with her yet. slowly building food drive can now get decent food drive low distractions and high value. recently did a seminar where used almost all food and had huge drive . toys can send her over the top. use steak, cheese,meatballs, possum, liver, and a dog treat- need to mix up as she easily gets bored. However tonight wonder if using wrong rewards. left my dinner roast chicken and salad and what did she steal brocolli and carrot… LOL
videos yesterday and today. no editing asno access to editing . meatball first two sessions. all inside but Te was running arund outside wanting in. all inside in living room which is low distraction
first one not really planned just wanted to see what tricks she remembered and tried a few things new like dance and upon my body and knee. She liked those so might develop these.
next video was playing with watching her body language – ended upmore than five tricks as was focused on her. have done this before but used a different range of tricks. definitely get her focused here need to develop a bridge between this and agility stuff
food toss game. mistake on my part a few pieces were too big – when a piece is too big she either spitts it out or retreats to somewhere like my chair to eat it.this is a game we have done alot but have never been happy that she is fully committed. Treat used here was liver
updown game – have not done alot of this and havent really done the bending down I think this made a difference. treat here was possumuyu world famous in New Zealand as loved by all dogs.
The thing about Paps is that they are Spaniels and most definitely not herding dogs. So are they independent? Yes. Do they seek reinforcement differently than herding dogs? Oh totally yes LOL!!!
haha in her case both- she has decided that she should round up sheep. But yes reinforcement is the hard piece as this is more challenging- she likes speed, toys and will now work a little for high quality food if not too much pressure. Not a great eater full stop. I also stuggle clarity and timeliness of cues – she is not very forgiving when I am wrong as often happens.
It depends on how you are working on it 🙂 What are you doing for calmness?
been doing alot of the stuff from brain camp plus previous course with bobbie- but I do struggle with the limit to her food motivation.
she likes snuffle mats. also the side to side game, have done less with updown game. but also done abit with novel and exciting and doing stuff in different places. But unlike my other dogs I dont feel as if I have the same intensity of wanting to do it that I have with my othr dogs I dont know whether that is because she is still young or whether we dont have the same reinforcemnet intensity built up or whether it is that the reinforcement isnt as good as it is food. Having said that all of these things are better than they used to be. But feel we havent quite made the transition from an individual exercise to something that is part of evey day life. if that makes sense.We did alot with tricks when she was younger but need to bring it back- life has been abit full on in last few months and her training has not progressed as much as would like for this reason.
life is getting in the way abit at the moment but we did manage to get a bit done on a less slopey plank. It was a bit rocky but she didnt seem to care- couple weeks ago she would have freaked. Still very much a work in progress- she wasnt quite worked out the value of offering but starting to happen
Am going for a 2×2 contact at the moment but will probably change to a running later but am happy if stay at a 2on2Thanks for the info
This weekend just worked on a few pieces- some work with the raised plank -and some work on waits, and mat tunnel revisited.
beverley
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No worries. I just assumed you had a life … lol turns out just a video issue….
First video I had siilar issues to second.
Have reposted link here 0- but not important as many answers the same.beverley
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Sorry to hear about crusher- hugs too you. she was lucky to have you as her human.I have just started to get used to shutting up lol…
Here last two days- i struggled to get my body and mind to work but fusion went where I sent here even if it wasnt right. On the first video we were supposed to go thru on the last sequence I couldnt get this she kept going over jump so need to refresh my me command.
second one more room so spread out. again I struggled abit to run and get the cues but she didnt go off crazy multiple jumping.
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Did some of the accel decelerate yesterday. She did so well jumps were about 5 m apart which is the most distance . Biggest issue was she ran away with toy early on when I used a toy toss as the rewardbut it was funny also as she then came back ad was offering tunnels and jumps with the toy n her mouth. Got things under control when I found another toy. Didnt leave it in the video.
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when is last date submissions as we still have alot to catch up on-have been taking some things slow and weather not cooperative for a while.
When does max pup 4 start- lookng at organising having her spayed but need to get timing right.
Beverley
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I think quiet calm verbals will be even harder than no verbals – just saying …
I did one of the earleier pop outs yesterday when unexpectedly finished work before dark. Then realised it was one I had already done but oh well. I also now have some small numbers for rally- it made course walking so much easier…
A few times I got lost or missed a handling move and just kept going as didnt want to do too many reps.
hugs to crusher
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Hope things go okay with crusher. Drive safe (although you should be home before you read this) Retried the serp yesterday- denitely better with the tunnel first now we both just need to workout what we are doing- me more than her.
Beverley
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Felt this session went much better. Apart from the turnaway but I think we both need to wor this out on a single jump still. Rest was much better in that I got more drive and connection and no tunel to tempt her.
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The planets alined yesterday- finished work early and rin held off until finished. I was pleased with this work. Majority of errors were due to e losing where I was going. Rest were when I was not quite in position- we struggled to get complete the first exercise in series – no video. But next exerises went reasonably weel. Not much space so drop rails down low.
Beverley
just came bck to do an edit and ask a dumb question
Jumping- my big dogs it is easy to start adding low height early on by In synch is so small – think her jumping height will be only second whole up. How do you slowly introduce the jump – currently still doing almost every thing with pole on ground as first lug seems to be high for her age.
She is not faster than fusion currently but not alot in it but she feels so much faster. Coping with her speed is a chllenge but will be worth it.
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I thought I wanted to kill you after fusion but now the hit man is coming.
Did the long lines (although didnt make it very big yet) with no verbals. I was totally disconnecting and she got mad- very vocal and bit me. I never thought I would say this but she showed me how much fusion saves me. I struggled to get the turn to the jump when the tunnel was sitting there I might cheat next time and not have a tunnel. Not having verbals and trying to handle shwed me (reinforced probably ) how much trouble I am having doing things soon enougn and reconnecting with this little speeding thing. She feels faster than fusion probably because she can turn really tight.
Beverley
