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beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
He is very different than In Synch in that he is much more thoughtful. I should have thought of that as he does get very sticky when things are less movey. Changing reward replacement made a big difference apart from fact we were on porch in shade and treat kept going down cracks- he wasnt impressed when that happened.
beverley thomson
Participanthere is our first go at using the foot touch on prop- he was quite unsure I forget sometimes how much of a baby he is. he does so much so well i forget he is only 15 wks. Also super hot today so nobody very energetic
beverley thomson
Participanthere is a video of the palm touch start.
beverley thomson
Participantokay I have edited the other video. I had to work with fusion to get it but it flowed. In Synch I had to support more and then got stuck so couldnt get to the next spot but we got pieces. Her understanding of the backside wrap is still not completely there but it is coming, I kept wanting to move a fraction too soon. basically the bits I got right she got right.
we have been working hard on her stay – sometimes it shows and sometimes it looks as if she has never been asked for a stay.
beverley thomson
Participanthi
Okay I have been experimenting I think the issue is that neither of my dogs understand their turn cues on a verbal so when I am not on the same side as verbal they go for where I am – so been doing some work on this slow progress. This is worse when I am moving less or coming out of a tunnel.
Did some traning at weekend finally some sun. Saturday things we struggled. But sunday both dogs enjoyed the exercise. I set up one of popouts with weaves. In Synch weave is coming but she still struggles so didnt really expect alot as not done weaves as part of a proper sequence before. But I was pleased she seems to be starting to understand backsides even if we got a slice instead of a wrap sometimes.
will edit videos tomorrow and hope to get another training session in before leave to look after dad tomorrow.
Beverley
PS Maybe that sun session training with friends so spent quite abit of time looking at lines- another sign should walk courses more in training. But also amazed at how focused both my dogs have got when lots distractions- people, dogs, horse poo, horses rabbits etc.beverley thomson
ParticipantThat was a quick reply.
Mum had a progressive disease for a number of years and deteriorated in last few months. I have been back and forwards to help and she has now passed creating more things to do. Dad is almost deaf and cant see very well at the moment so alot of work trying to get him sorted as well. Now eye surgery scheduled and so will need looking after as only allowed up 5 min every hour for first ten weeks. One of times i regret when they are three hours away. my brother thinks its my responsibility as i am the girl and he is busy. on mums last bout of illness and for her funeral I ended taking one of the dogs who regularly boards. messaged client to say sorry her dog was leaving town shre could have her back when I returned.
sunny couple of days so did a little training. some of sequences only did once as she did well.
https://youtu.be/SC-INcRiyUM.
the next exercise was surprisedshe didnt do as well as I expected. moved jump too far and other interesting thing she struggkled more when i swapped to toy to make reward easier.
next video fusion and kept all walking and course thinking in
the second exercise i discovered i never actually walked it….
I am really struggling with the some actions the turn away or when come back on me. did the one with the layering with weave tonight and was not happening will try and post tomorrow will need to rewatch videos as think i am right and then it is awkward and not work
Beverley
beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
apologies dog training has just not been happening- have been away dealing with parents alot – my dogs but no space or gear and the days I am home the weather has been really miserable and wet – with ground too slippery to do anything.
I did get out yesterday – will edit videos later and both dogs were feral and I was so out of synch with them both. Hopefully can get some training done this weekend and then away again.went to deal with earlier videos yesterday- seem to have lost some. but heres working in synch on teaching her a backside and a backside wrap- once we got started she got it when I was right.
some of fusions work
some in synch earlier work
beverley thomson
ParticipantBetween the rain and family stuff we havent done much lately and it shows.
two weeks ago we had a go at parts of week1 agility course- at a friends place with big distances and rough ground. But what most impressed me with both my dogs is that inspite of strange place with lots of horse poo plus horses very close behind a single wire they both focused. Didnt get much of course done but did manage to pursuade In synch to go over a strange dog walk and a frame. She had to think about it a little .
Also set up a jumpers but super spread out and too hard for me to run to get to some spots but she did some good distance work and some questions. She tried hard- very obvious she didnt understand backsides or different side of jumps. same in popouts so need to go back and teach on its own.
yesterday attempted one of the poputs from the jumpers – we struggled she was not finding the linbes (mainly because Iwasnt right) It was very spread out and got used to Fusion who had no trouble unless i stuffed up. also we are both out of pracitse esp me.Hope the weather isnt too bad where you are.beverley thomson
ParticipantHi thanks for your comments
One thing to add at home is getting her as aroused as possible, then asking for simple stays.
Haha still working hard on in between ie presence of agility equipment – then will move to high arousal- doesnt take much to crete that three or four jumps will do it... She is not 100% sure about the layering, so that is where we will want to look at reward placement to help build the skill.
Yes this is new to her. I realised later I should have had her bag out there. I stupidly thought are she sends she will be fine- forgot that adding the tunnel in changed the picture.Remember that these are not gamble sends, they are parallel path lines. If you are sending and not moving, she will correctly read that as turn cues and curl in.
Yes I realised that too. I think it was because turning a corner it felt easier to stop..
– Send to 1 and 2, then run run run 🙂 no standing still!
– throw the reward out on the line, don’t reward from your hand (more on that below)
is it okay to have reward ahead of herBack to reward placement:
To really build the understanding, though, throw the reward sooner and out on the line. It looks like you were rewarding from your hand which builds more value for coming to you and not staying on the line. Yes can be dumb sometimes – she cant be bothhered finding food if I throw it. need to use a toy or a placed reward.This means you will need to run with the toy in your hand so you can throw it easily and on time, which is great experience for her as she learns to self-regulate arousal. If she is not great about bringing it back right away, have a 2nd toy to call her back to. You can also use a food toy like a lotus ball or treat hugger, as long as she can open it herself and not need you there to open it.
Alaways use two toys or a placed anchored toy. Treat tuggers etc only interested in as a toy will not look for the food- too much effort for food.One more idea about reward placement:
To get her to not jump up on you: don’t use a ‘yay good girl’ because that is not super clear and she will jump up. Instead, use a reward marker and throw the reward. Ifyou are throwing the reward, jumping up won’t be a problem. You will likely need to work out getting the toy back after you throw it so you can really work on the distance and layering skills.will do
Sequence 2 went well too – when she lines up between your feet (fun skill!) be sure to step away and have her on the correct side so she knows which way to go rather than releasing from between your feet.
working on it. This is the first time tried it in presence of jumps and she is still not 100% sure of me moving (she thinks I might stand on her) so I didnt want to push it so didnt move. But it is proving the easiest way of getting her facing the jump rather than yelling at me..Seq 3: If you are not layering, try to run that opening line 1-2-3-4 silently, so you crank up your connection – that is where her questions are (not enough connection). Same goes for any sequence not layering: run silently to really emphasize connection and not high arms looking ahead. Yes, I am evil 🤣😂😁 but it will make a huge difference!
will doSorry did some more work while weekend as limited daylight and chances to do
We did some more work on sequence 5 with her bag out there and she layered beautifully – why- I was moving and she had plenty of speed and it was the second time. Unfortunately the videoer stuffed up and didnt get it on film. Pity as she did some really nice work and it felt almost smooth and calm…Its didnt last
Then tried seq 6 – things went abit to custard. Waits started to fail and I was all over the place. I couldnt get the first layer and the second layer she did the first jump fine but was going wide and missing the next jump then cutting in bypassing 11 and coming to 12. Because I wasnt getting the 1st layer i wasnt in the right place to get the slice to turn around and go back. on video I can see arms and everything going in all directions.
first go
the rest sorry not pretty
beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
In Synch is a work in progress with waits. I now have a good stable wait away from jumps and often in presence of a couple jumps at home it is still very difficult elsewhere. I tried a plaftform and yes she was stable onplatform but hard to get her to be settle on platform. I have been experimenting with a between the legs this has been helping alot although not as obvious in this session. I placed her there a couple of times in this session havent tried that before I think it helped. Here is first 4 jump indep exercies the far jump (no 4 in first exercise) was hard to get she tended to curl in unless i went the other side of the tunnel. Something to work on. After 4 exercise In Synch said she had enougn and so we finished it was nice she told me and didntjust go silly. Did also with Fusion and she aced them all – showing me how far she has come- if only we could get in the ring.
Beverleybeverley thomson
ParticipantYes. I did it and it was reasonably easy not surprising as both have strong drive to jump but got thinking why couldnt they do it in the ring then. Realised more obstacles behind them in ring when start is away from course. They go but arent we go the wrong way in the ring so will work on this.
InSynch says its not the wait itself that is hard it is staying still long enougn to get a wait. Once she sits still (In Synch says shouldnt be allowed) can get some lead out but all or nothing at the moment.
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Participantthese look fun. As expected neither of my dogs cared about be being behind them. But I thought I might set up the same exercise with more equipment behind them as I think they will find that harder. In Synchs biggest issue was waiting !! no surprise there so great exercise for reinforcing her wait.
Beverley
beverley thomson
Participanthi is there supposed to be something under agility 2 bits
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Participantthanks that worked
beverley thomson
ParticipantHad a weekend away last weekend. In Synch was going great we just had a few off courses because I either didnt see something when I walked it or I couldnt get the commands out early enougn to prevent. The courses were all at the hard end for the level.Will post videos when get round to editing them. Nice that I knew each time what went wrong although after a mistake is made it is hard to get a smooth run back.
Waits need a lot of work – she has totally worked out the game so lots of work happening here.
Interesting getting alot more drive over the last jump but no longer wanting a pick up she is growling with excitment as she goes around. Was very pleased so much value for the bag as when she didnt want to be picked up we just headed to the bag and moved away. Got the treats out and she was putting her head in lead for treat. This was our original plan before she started coming to me to be caught. So no panics no pressure just a practised finish.
Interesting she was highly focused on food especially at the end of a run this is new usually toys are all she is interested in.
Lots of wait training going on at home and else where. Plus some weave work.
Weaves I opened up and got more range in terms of direction. When closed again didnt see any change in that still going fast and from different angles. so the opening was a good move. Have added a jump before the weaves and she loves that.Contacts have been using a target at the end of the dog walk – she is much more confident on my dog walk and getting a run down to the target.
Overall pleased with progress – just need to work hard on generating value for the waits.
Beverley
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