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beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
Thanks
No she will not trade a toy for a cookie – she will release a toy when less aroused but not yet in agility context. I thik this will start to happen once she realises that sooner she releases sooner she gets to do agility again.It has been very wetand freezing here here and have been away with no internet so a bit behind.
I did a little with seasaw last week- she went up much further- didnt push it as think it will just start to happen the more confidence she gains. she doesnt stay at the moment so lots of rewards at the bottom. and also a big party with toy
the wing work -she did great I couldnt get the rear cross in – I couldnt get there – thin I need a bigger space and drier ground so I can get into position also need to go back and rework the mechanics of the rear for both of us.
beverley
beverley thomson
Participanthere is video for wobble board and wing stuff (lots handler errors but she was a star)
I know this isnt part of the course but any suggestions of how to teach her to like/accept the measuring stick I can understand her point of view it is huge compared to her and makes funny noises. Have been working on a chin rest separately. She doesnt seem to care about small things on her back and will eat treats off the stick if on the ground. have been treating the noise separately – recorded on my phone. She will take treats or tug near it but not happily > am going to try with some smaller sticks but have you any ideas- I have six months but it is going to take time and I need a better strategy
beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
I think the mad was because she felt neglected rather than the sits as i had been out with you and fusion allmorning without her she likes being in the center of things. I actually repeated this at the show this weekend and got completely different reaction. I was careful to ensure nothing too distracting when i said sit but woth limited movement she was good. No video.
Working on my verbals especially with the toy having to add more in for her.
The lie down and bark is about rewards including attention. So see in training although less so but generally she is right in i have been too slow on rewards or askedtoo much. But also get if am working on computer etc and she thinks i am not giving her attention. She is quick to point out my faults.
Got alot better reaction with wobble board on second session with pillows. Will post video tomorrow
beverley thomson
ParticipantYes I am working hard on trying to improve my use of markers as she very much understands the difference but my brain struggles as the others dont seem to notice as much. Mind you she can ignore food and toys on the ground until told they cant …
haha
did a couple training sessions yesterday afternoon- or perhaps I should say I tried. In Synch was mad- I went out to training and left her at home- only a pap can get that mad…First I tried to do the sit exercise- lesson learned dont try and get a hard listening exercise that involves stationary with a mad border pap…. I quickly decided it wasnt happening – but thought you might enjoy her expressing herself…
Then I thought we would do toy work- huge mistake on my part I combined stays with toy work – I would tell my students foff for that big time so will go out with a better plan next time on how to do jump plus toy – have done quite abit before with jump present but putting her over the jump brought the jump into play. But very different behaviour when a jump was actively in the mix- so big note to self need to do this more. Definitely the higher arousal (teeth were chattering and eyes spinning) made the toy switch game and bringing back the toy hard so need to put some more steps in the middle. I also dont think she had fully forgiven me at that stage.
Later I did a little with wobble board, have done a tiny bit before with food. when it is on the floor and she is playing she will go over it but doesnt see value when training so thought I would try a toy instead. I realise I needed to give her more space to get away from wobble board with toy and again too many reps- it doesnt feel like it at the time.. She did her usual trick of lying down bewside it and commenting- she does this with a number of things
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beverley thomson
ParticipantThanks for class today. Rain turned from drizzle to proper shortly sfter.
One question meant to ask the brake arm is this only used for tirns or can it be used for general collection eg before the weaves
beverley thomson
Participantoops no toy in above video this video where I reattempted the blinds I had a toy. First time in ages I carried a toy and didnt get biting or anger over toy.
Beverley
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beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
Yes we do alot of toy switch and retr games outside of agility and it is getting there – agility is too high value a the moment. probably need to do work on transition one jump toy on ground and then a toy switch so get attention before she goes into zoomy mode. I have also been working on using other rewards. Went to toy anchored on ground to food on me and now just starting to carry a high value toy (a low value she doesnt care). Slow small steps so that it doesnt go over he top and get her grabby. Was really pleased with this session holding the toy as no grabby and very much in workng mode wiith very chattery teeth so high arousal but still in control.With verbals she is very litarule > i like bite perhaps should introd that – at moment I have a verbal catch and find it for food (Tend to forget this one) and get it for a toy and switch when want a toy swap. I think I need to add verbals for taking from my hand so bite would work well for that, currently with the toy have a long one and drop it loose so she can grab.
Seasaw- she only does anything for high value treats and I need to mix them up – so hotdogs, cheese, steak, liver here I had a mix of cheese and hotdog. She is not a foodie at all and it has taken a bit to work out what she will eat. I think food is starting to link to the fun of working rather than the food itself- this happened with my other dogs too and this helped increase the value of the food. I think to she likes to work things out. Ideally i would love a toy at the top but that would guarentee here going off the side. Did a bit of plank work last night and she was more into going across the plank when there was a toy involved. So perhaps what I needed to do was do toyplay after a rep.
She is changing every day at the moment- growing in her skill, listening and confidence.
Beverley
oops no toy in above video, next video with my second attempt on blind has the toy
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beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
Yes I am very pleased with her we are starting to wor together sometimes. She has got great drive- currently too much as neither of us are good when speed gets up.
I am pleased we are starting to actually connect some of the time.
Reinforcement has always been an issue and we are working thru slowly I think I made the mistake of having her toy too far away for this harder stuff. If ithad been closer I think I can get less turning to me because she knows the reward is not on me. I am also struggling with having one command for the toy and one for food- my other dogs itdidnt matter but with her it does.
I tried a lotus this morning and she just ran off with it. I did do a session this morning carrying a toy and for the first time I got her working when I had a toy on me – you should have seen the teeth chatter but still got a wait although she struggled. will edit thsi video tonight. Previously when I had a toy on me she got very grabby. I could try an empty food bowl but not sure it has enougn value yet – although she is starting to understand delayed reward.Yesterday we did the tunnel entrance wotk and redid seasaw for the first time after the first session. She was still a little unsure but better.
Beverley
beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
Will you were more ositive than I was I felt it was a nmess with my body all over the place.
the second attempt I felt I kew what I was trying to do..
I dont know that I locked it in but defintiely felt we were more of a team. I am actually super pleased with how well she is working- she is starting to say me rather than me trying to be perfect and failing lol. She layers well.
Beverley
beverley thomson
ParticipantIgnore last video have redone and was much better.
beverley thomson
Participantyes can find a longer plank just not at home. yes she doesnt like me in her space (but okay for her to be in mine lol).
Missed videoing the lazy game. I think I am starting to understand a little more her running ,,, and then something happes and I realise I dont at all.
I havent worked at the blind yet going back to rewatch videos but other things I am amazed at how much she is starting to focus and follow .
beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
I struggled with these skills I can do the okay on one jump but once start movig I struggled, did again today went a little better. done in a relatively small space
yes 36 hours would work as that includes an evening whe robyn is homeBeverley
beverley thomson
ParticipantHi
Thanks. Unfortunately no sharon in this session lol
Definitely me working out hings and was pleased with how fusion responded. have to get into my head the brake arm movement and timing and then think it will work well.
Yesterday did a bit with the pop out from the agility set – just short amount of time. Spread it out again as had the opportunity- sorry about external noise.
again it was me struggling with my timing but Fusion was trying hard. I again over rotated at times. Lots of mistakes on my part a few times she went wrong I didnt correct as wanted to limit time training I thought Fusion was working well and not just charging on more me not telling
will hopefully get enougn time to practise the hot topics tomorrow.
Is it possible to get a course map early for next live as have to get it printed out at a frieds when she is home and that can get interesting with time differences and her having a life…
Beverley
beverley thomson
Participantyes I know i went too long on seasaw game. In theory the seasaw can be lowered but it has been out in weather so suspect not. I thought I might just set up with a plan on a slope to achieve the same thing but be able to modify the height more.
I like the idea of a towlel – I tried a plate but cant hit it and the treats bounce.
yes she loved the wing game- running fast what not to love but she is great at sending initially but not so much after tunnel so will work on those suggestions to help her understand this.
Yes in NZ distances are the same for all dogs so for a little dog it is a long way.
I have been doing some plank work and finally starting to get some success- I have raised it quite high and rewardedwith a trail of treats and finally starting to get going across rather than dancing off. Heights lower than this still got dance off.
Beverley
beverley thomson
ParticipantYes it was sharon yelling and cheering- I love training with her as she provides immediate feedback rather than having to stop and look at video.
I tried the live video sessions. I spread it out heaps although doesnt look like it on the video (about doubled the distances) – still managed to cheat and send her (my default) but really struggled with the 1 to2 which then had a carry on effect – so need to work on that focus when I lead out for both of us. I love this concept of the brake arm but it didnt come naturally to me so will keep working on this.
Beverley
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