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I love the podcast, Bitey End of the Dog! Michael Shikashio is brilliant!
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Nox will learn to leave the bowls. What might help is asking her to sit again before releasing her.The barking and spinning is happening because she is frustrated that you are taking “so long” to get to the bowl to drop the treat. That behavior will fade because she will learn to expect you to perform the behavior of placing a treat in the bowl. Just try to get to the bowl as quickly as possible and place a treat in there, as long as she drives to the bowl on her line. If you wait for her to stop spinning and barking, you will actually get more spinning and barking- the behavior is based on her emotional state.
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At the training facility, think about breaking down each behavior or sequence as much as possible, allowing her to be successful. In trials, Phuncky is more aroused than anywhere else. The running DW behavior is still a new behavior for him and we are still building understanding in courses at class. At trials, he leaps over the yellow. To help him be successful, knowing that Phuncky is super aroused in this environment, I set up him on the down ramp so that he literally cannot be wrong–I set him up so that his first step from the sit when released is him pushing off the yellow.
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This is FANTASTIC!! You get an Oscar for your “I’m lost” acting! Lol! One thing I would change is to reward Avery to come to you when she ‘finds’ you, then toss another treat away and pretend to be lost again.For the Cato board, I would like for you to vary how you reinforce the sit-stay on the board when putting it in a sequence. Sometimes release her into the sequence, sometimes go back to her and reinforce, sometimes say the word “Catch” and toss a reward back to her–in this last option, “catch” is the release word so she can leave the board to go to her reward.
I think leaving her on the Solloquin is a good plan for now. You won’t really know if it is or isn’t working until you take her off of it. And you have been doing great work training with her, so that could be helping too, or both.
Because the games and resilience conditioning are still new, I recommend practicing at home a couple of times per week.
Yes, use the Cato board for the startline station work only.
Regarding the targets- you will be surprised at how we will be able to fade out the target in time. Place the target at the end behavior position. She will drive into position and then you can drop the treat into the bowl or onto the target. We are building value for the obstacle. The value she will have for the target will transfer to the obstacle over time.
Yes! I concur with your assessment of the games. 🙂
Monica, I am really glad you are giving it another go. I know this has been a roller coaster for you.
Excellent application of the Superbowls Game! Let’s keep building on it!
I totally understand your rationale regarding the running DW! 🙂 I solid decision.
Perhaps what you can do when you are in class is place a target at the bottom of every teeter and DW for the next few months, since that is the only place you can practice those contacts in sequence. Whenever she gets to the end, place a treat there. The target (Superbowls Game application :)) predicts reinforcement.
For the Cato board, you should line her up the way you line her up when there isn’t a Cato board there. I believe you have been facing her when asking her to sit at the start. If that’s what you currently do, I recommend doing that now. Don’t change too much.
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Avery is loving you running back and forth!Regarding crating her in the building- could you set up an x-pen around her crate so that other dogs cannot get close to her? Maybe even drape a sheet over it, if need be.
I understand your concern with the startline. The barking does sound similar and there might be anxiety woven into the behavior, but by providing predictability (doing the same thing every time you lead out, for example), it should help.
Regarding Gemma, it would be best to email me at work so that I can see how we can support her. My email is Bobbie@BehaviorVets.com.
Sprite is doing so well!!! Great job taking the show on the road!
Regarding the decompression exercise- love it! 4 minutes is good! And yes, let her make the choices so that she can experience agency.
Do you agree that she is slower at a trial than in class or at home? That is what I see.
Would you consider doing a running dog walk? You are kind of doing it already.
In general, I think the game plan should involve building value for the contacts. Because she does not feel as confident (whatever the reason) on the contacts, she is slower at trials where she is also managing environmental pressure. When Topper is really stressed, he doesn’t want to go up the teeter.
How did you train the dog walk? You said you did my teeter course, correct?
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So right away, I see a big arousal trigger for Danny K. He does NOT like you holding his collar. Can you start using the Cato board in class? It is more important to work on his startline than actually run the course. It all starts the beginning.So the moment Danny K starts coming towards you when doing Find My Face, drop a few treats at your feet BEFORE he gets all of the way to you. This will help interrupt the body-slamming behavior. If you reinforce this way every time you practice Find My Face, the body-slamming behavior will stop in this context. In about 3-4 months, when practicing Find My Face, you will be able to reinforce him by offering a treat by your knees instead of dropping them on the ground.
It is imperative that you drop the treats on the floor the moment Danny K looks at you when playing this game. He continues to jump on you because in his world, he did the right thing–he came to you, even if you don’t desire HOW he came to you. I want you to reinforce him for coming to you NO MATTER WHAT even if he body slams you. If Danny K slams into you, reinforce low. Over time, if you always place the reinforcement low, the body-slamming behavior will decrease. The longer you wait for him to stop jumping, the more frustrated he will become, the more he will body slam.
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When you walk into the ring, I want you do the following and make this your ritual for the next few months:
1. Walk into the ring with Danny K on leash.
2. Spend 20-30 sec doing Shadow Handling while Danny K is on leash.
3. Play the Find It Pattern Game 6 times total- 3 on one side, 3 on the other.
4. Ask Danny K to sit on the Cato Board, give him treats.
5. Keep the leash on and let it drop.
6. Walk a few steps away like you are leading out, return and feed. Repeat this 5-6 times.
7. Return and remove the leash.
8. Walk a few steps away like you are leading out, return and feed. Repeat this 5-6 times.
9. Release and then run a short sequence.My back is better, just a bit sore. Thank you!
What are you observing that makes you think she is not confident when entering the ring? What concerns do you have about how things are going now?
If Callie enters the ring barking and can still perform as well as she does, what about the barking concerns you?
So what I see in the montage is this…
Once you lead out, Callie stops barking at a certain point. You are releasing her the moment you turn and look at her, so Callie is leaning forward and on the tip of her toes, so to speak. If you lead out, look at her, take a breath, praise her, and then release her when she is square over her haunches, you will keep your sit-stay. The barking is not causing this behavior. And you cannot change her level of arousal, only teach her how to be thoughtful when she organically goes there.Correct, wait for Nox to look at you before moving to the next bowl when playing the Superbowls Game. As soon as she eats it and looks at you, move to the next bowl and place a treat there. Nox will follow you to the bowl and eat the next treat. Rinse and repeat. 🙂
Start by putting the bowls on either side of a jump. Once Nox takes the jump, place a treat on it. Then go back the other way and place a treat on it. After a day or so of practicing this for a couple of minutes, build the criteria. Set up three jumps in a row and put a bowl down on one end and the other. We can build from there.
Regarding stimulus control, Nox will learn that only when you move to that bowl will she get the treat. And if you place the bowl on her line, she will learn she should go there to get reinforcement.
I am sorry to say I couldn’t advise you on how the hormones might change and impact her behavior. That’s where a Veterinarian Behaviorist might be able to help. What state are you in? I am still working on things on my end.
It’s best to ask her to down-stay while speaking with your instructor or ask her to hop up onto a chair or platform.
Tricks are great to keep dogs in motion while having the dog move in a pattern. You can use weaving through the legs, hand targeting back and forth, etc. The important variable is to practice these games hundreds of times in all contexts, including classes and seminars, giving her treats, so that the tricks have been conditioned for Avery. It has taken me many, many months to condition Phuncky to hold a sit-stay when aroused–especially trials. Keep building value. 🙂
I don’t recommend doing a running start since we are working on building value for a sit-stay. Start using the Cato board in agility training at home. In a couple of weeks, start bringing it to class. In a few months, you will be able to start fading out the Cato board.
When you say, “feeling good,” how do you mean in reference to contacts and weaves?
It sounds like she doesn’t have as much value for the contacts. I would have to unpack how you trained it and look at video of you guys doing contact work. We have a week left–would you like to spend this time working on it?
