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bsshay
ParticipantYes, as usual you are SO right. š
Iāve been using the Same hand signal to train Mochi going around my back (like Carol and Sequel) and to sit between my legs, as I use for lining her up at my side to sit or a running start. So, no wonder sheās confused as for what Iām asking for.
And sheās sure telling me about it. š¤Ŗ
Iāve gotten much better at working with her barking. Instead of getting upset, I just try to figure out whatās causing it and fix it. You taught me that, thank you!
So is it better then when proofing All verbals to use the harness/tab and let them hear the word a few times before releasing?
Also, I googled Repair of a MM and found a piece of kibble lodged in the motor. Whew, saved myself $150.
Now that itās working again, should I go back to what she knows or now try using her toy on the ground? The MM keeps her very thoughtful and the toy escalates her drive.
Weād love to have you come out here and give a Seminar. Could you possibly do that sometime?
Thank you. B
bsshay
ParticipantWe tried Sends and SERPs. We had a tough time cuz my MM failed. We tried to fake the beep and deliver into the MM cup, but that wasnāt work well either. It wasnāt what she was used to and wasnāt enough with the environmental distractions. And she wanted a toy.
So we tried to do it with her HR.I didnāt set it on the ground cuz I didnāt want her to self reward if not right. So I threw it instead.
And you know, she perked right up and we were Both happier with the toy.
We had to refresh the Strike a Pose first. We had not done it in awhile and first time outside.
Then I had to tilt the jump just a bit so she could see the face more.
It wasnāt perfect but I think we made progress.
Thank you!! Bš
bsshay
ParticipantHi.
Rt Lft proof Mini Pini here.
Weāre now taking all games possible outside. Itās harder. And I feel weāre off today. Also therefore a Big dog that barks at my neighbors and she will just Stop and listen and face the sound. But I get her back with play. And then we start.
We had to refresh this exercise. Then the turning away in 3 positions with No motion to help her āprovedā š difficult for us. But we got better.
Weāve been working on her going around me like Carol and Sequel, so sheās trying that herself a bit. But itās not good enough yet to use it in an exercise.
I think some of the trouble we were having with her barking at me, was she wanted the toy. I had to but it out of sight, with the extender itās hard to crumble up in my hand.
Thank you. B
bsshay
ParticipantGreat!
So far, in heat, sheās been very sweet, cuddly, and willing to work/playšš».
Thank you for freeing us before from working on me touching her while training, lining up etc. Her harness with the short cut off leash is working very well for us.
She lines up well on each side of me, and the lining up between my legs is going really nicely. Sheās now tolerating me over the top of her, holding her sit, while I walk away and then throw her a Catch.
She can jump in my arms while Iām seated in a chair now, although itās quite a Jump for her. Once she gets better and stronger at it weāll try a more standing posture.
The cot with a licky mat sounds like a good option. She eats her meals on one and we use one in local class. I remember we used to send them to their crates in between sessions, using Crate Games.
When I was videoing last, and working on setting up with camera angle etc, I saw Mochi at the top of my full height dog walk š¬ ( the down ramp is off and sitting on the ground ). Another time she was headed up the teeter. Now, Iāve blocked off both with BIG chairs, but in her new found boldness, sheās figured out how to go around those chairs. Yikes. But, I didnāt panic and just calmly coaxed her down the right way.
So a cot would be great if I can get her to stay on it. She really celebrates running around and jumping in the pool. Iāve started to take her to the pool as a reward when weāre done with a session, or in between sessions. The pool will eventually get too cold, though.
Even though weāre practicing, I donāt have any more videos to post.
Iām so glad you told me Mochi doesnāt need to be Perfect at any of this. šš
Looking forward to class on Wednesday, Iāll be able to make this one. šš»
bsshay
ParticipantHi there.
Thank you for all your great input! Weāve been making some progress, I think.š
We were at the Vet this week and she weighed all of 6.9 pounds. Woohoo!
Then yesterday I noticed sheās in full Heat, her first cycle. Is there anything we should do differently training-wise with her being in heat?Mochi is definitely growing into her Spiciness. She sometimes jumps up to try and get her toy, before we start a rep etc. Iāve got it in my hand for ease of delivery, HR or favorite tug. If itās in my pocket I canāt get it out in time to reward. The only thing I know to do is give her a treat for Not taking it.
I donāt want her to keep jumping up to take her toy. Do you have any suggestions?For the Wind game, I used the HR and gave her kibble to leave it, just like you said. And outside of one blip, she got the idea and was able to leave it and work the game. Yay!
So, Iāve noticed itās when sheās SUPER high, super stimulated, super aroused, thatās when she grabs for the toy and sometimes gets my hand. After a series of games, reps we just played fetch with her orange dumbbell. Then I asked for a simple behavior like right and she WENT for the toy, getting my hand. Sheās so high sheās just grabbing at anything? Dogs donāt really get defiant do they?
Should I end our sessions by bringing her down with a Licky Mat? Iāve always used a fun game of fetch, just plain to give them some Non-thinking fun.
Thank you. B
bsshay
ParticipantHey.
Trying to work out the ābugsā in the Pill Bug game.
When I first brought her home as a young pup, we did a lot of circle work with this toy.
I remember she needed it to be in my outside hand to be successful.
But I see in the videos you open your shoulder to your dog and have the toy, deliver it from your off hand. So we were trying to work through how to get that.Sending her around a wing works better for us than throwing a treat at this point in our training. Hope thatās ok.
Thank you. Bš
bsshay
ParticipantHi again.
Working on Turns out of tunnels.
Gosh, itās hard for meā¦.different from what Iām used to.
Thereās no time for me to say Tunnel more than once and get out the directional, just not what I normally do. But if I can support her and maintain connection it works for her.
I just have to learn how and with more difficult patterns.I didnāt realize until your last critiques how much she looks to me for eye contact and direction. Since Iām prone to running into wings etc 𤪠Iāll need to figure out the connection and path at the same time. One of my instructors taught me how to spot points to know where to go and when to turn, but now those spot points may be behind me.
Trying to look at her nose, such a cute noseš, keep my arms/hands low and shoulder open to her.
A definite learning curve for me.
Trying not to say Ready nor switch hands with the toy.
Thank you. šš». B
bsshay
ParticipantHi.
Set Point with Moving Target here.
Jumps still 3ft apart. Sheās about 3 inches from first jump, last one may have been a bit more.
Thank you! Bšbsshay
ParticipantHi.
We tried Wind again, with a MM and placed toy.
I forgot to bring out drinking water, hence the interest in the pool.
The MM wasnāt working properly. Iād press it when she saw the line but it wouldnāt beep or give a treat. Maybe we were out of range for it.
So I tried to a place toy. Sorry for the long video, it became an experiment in which toy and where to place it.
You were right, she was happy to leave it for cheese, I didnāt need her harness to make sure she left they toy š
But I think the cheese in my hands could be the reason she didnāt complete her turn around the wing.
But weirdly I had to Tell her to Get It and encourage her to take it, except for the Holle Roller. Perhaps cuz thatās what weād been using for Moving Target?
Since Posh has been coaching her, I expected Mochi to run and steal the toys.
Was pleasantly surprised sheād leave them, and didnāt expect her to need permission to take them. Weird, but in a good way.I can see I didnāt always make her connection coming around the wing. And the only time she Didnāt look back at me after the jump was for the Holle Roller.
Please tell me what you think and how to progress.
I think we should take a break tomorrow or at least have a light day of training. Or do something super fun with movement where she doesnāt have to think too hard.
Iām try to fit her games in when I can as my fall adult dog classes are starting up. But donāt want to overload her or me. š
Thank you so much, again!
Bbsshay
ParticipantHello
We tried some Smiley Face. š¤Ŗ
This was her first long curved tunnel. We practiced just this tunnel before we videoed.
I can see we need to practice it some more. I can also see I donāt have my arm, shoulder back towards her ācollarā like you said to do sometimes.
I think my timing is way off not sure if sheās going to make it through the whole tunnel and not turn around and come out her entrance.
So Iām guessing I need to go back to the shorter tunnel and not bend it so much?Also, if I plan our pattern, I can remember my new Rye and Lev. But when I start ad-libbing, Iām not getting the right word out for the wrapsā¦at least once I told her the wrong way but she went the right way. Although I may have to go back to a one word wrap, Iāll keep trying.
Started out with her Hollee roller tug, but switched to dumbbell. Itās easier for me and she likes it.
Thank you. B
bsshay
ParticipantHello.
Last night before we wrote we tried some with the chair which led to my questions.
So Iād like to show you todays work.
Iām only posting chair on left. On right we were working through mechanics and we had some behavior on the left you should see.
Chair on Levā¦she seems much more sensitive to have me touch her on her right side. We were both frustrated and I decided to stop trying to get her Lined Up and and accept her facing somewhat forward with just holding the leash. It seemed more important for us Not to be frustrated than to have her exactly where I thought she should be. I think you have mentioned that before too. š
Once we did that it seems to go well.
I do think sitting on the chair has helped us/me isolate my non-movement. Although I can see moving my head to look at the path I want also gives her a clue, smart girl.
Kodie and Amy tell me my dogs follow my Visor/Hat Bill or eyes drawing their path.So then we tried standing on both sides and that seemed to go well, trying to Not move.
I ended up cutting off an old leash short to attach to her harness. It seems best for me to just take that leash and not touch her at all. She doesnāt seem to mind that leash dragging along.
Iāll continue to work touching her, her harness while bending over her separately.
Also teach lining up between my legs. So far, standing for that works better than sitting in the chairš¤Ŗ.So Iām guessing our next step with this is to take it back outside with a real tunnel?
Thank you very much!! B
bsshay
ParticipantHi again.
Please also see replies under Set Point and Proofing Wraps.
For Wind, I understand what youāre saying about getting the toy out faster. That it needs to be flying out in front of her so she doesnāt check back in with me.
It seems like she doesnāt look at the jump right when she comes around the wing and then when Iām sure she does the motion of taking my arm back to Pitch the toy makes me late.
Should I throw when sheās heading for the line? Find a way to quick throw? Maybe Iām just not that talented šOnce we advance to the MM, I should beep when she looks at the jump, or on that line? Or just say Goā¦. And the beep timing is immaterial?
If we advance to the toy, just say GOā¦ā¦? Or do I need to add a Get It to give her permission to Get It?Thank you. B
bsshay
ParticipantOk.
I think Iāve worked something out with a harness and a partial/short leash that I can hold while standing up.
Even though weāve worked a lot on it, bending over to hold her collar or harness with my hand sets her off, especially when a toy is involved and weāre doing an exercise.We also tried the chair. Lining her up between my feet didnāt work very well, but I could line her up beside me. Her toy and treats are closer to her in the chair and she WANTS them. I can reward from the chair? If I want her to come out of the Tunnel and take the Wing do I get up and move the chair out of her way so she can see the wing? Or I donāt do the combination reps while in the chair?
Iāve always been a run with and motion handler. Sometimes I donāt even know Iām doing it. It would be nice to have things on verbals alone.
Thank you. B
bsshay
ParticipantHi there.
Not sure you saw this reply aboveš
How often should we be doing this Set Point exercise ? Couple times/week?
Thank you.
Bbsshay
ParticipantHi.
I gave her a big break and let her get in the pool while I was setting up for this. Actually she wondered why we werenāt playing frisbee in the pool, our primary summer activity.
Weāve been using the orange dumbbell when I have to throw something a distance. Iāve got an identical one in my pocket, but sheāll normally bring back the original fairly quickly. Sheās also learned how to tug on one end while I hold the other and has stopped grabbing my hand instead of the toy. šš»
I can see once I started more motion I forgot to say GO. I forget sheās not one of my adult dogs and sheās new to the game. Oops.
Her glance to the jump happens Very fast. But I try to run a bit sideways like you do in the video, maintaining connection with her face.
Iām usually the one who throws the toy into the wing or crashes into the wing myself, so only once out of several reps , Iām giving myself an A+ for that. š
Also, thank you for making these games more fun for both of us. She really enjoys Moving and gets bored with repetitive behavior.
Iām a bit leery about setting a toy out there for this exercise. I know she can do it with a MM, but Iām not sure she can leave a toy for that distance. What do you think?
Thank you! B
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