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I’m behind in my editing. Still have another course to edit but I’ll probably add it tomorrow. Here is Sequences for Success Course 4 for both dogs. First links will be all course options together; second links will be comparisons. I did not compare the wraps to anything because it seems pretty apparent from the previous courses we’ve done those are pretty slow. Also it seemed to me that the Backside into a FC was faster so I compared that to a threadle. I was also super excited during his threadle run because he nailed that difficult threadle. So lots of cheering and clapping mid run lol.
Emmie all course options together
Emmie Threadle vs. backside comparison
Kippy all course options together
Kippy Backside into BC vs. Backside into FC comparison
Kippy Backside FC vs. Threadle Comparison
This past weekend was our first trial in a very long time. We had some good stuff and not so good stuff. If I remember correctly, Emmie has only been to a total of maybe 5 trials, but only three outdoor trials. The last two outdoor trials were at Animal Inn. It’s both a good and bad place for her to get experience. The trial area is fenced (the good part) but there are a lot of dogs on the outside of the fence that she can see. She’s got a very strong eye and does not like other dogs looking at her. She becomes comfortable with dogs she knows but will snark at other dogs if she doesn’t know them and they stare at her. I try to really pay attention by giving her a lot of space around other dogs but that’s not always easy at trials. I also tend to get nervous at trials so I’ve always warmed up my dogs and then put them back in the crate right before we are ready to run so I can obsess without the nerves going down the leash. This also helps to minimize all the dogs in her space. She was doing fairly well outside the ring for the most part because I can just feed her treats. But when we go in and are setting up on the startline she loses her focus to the dogs outside the ring. For most areas that we will trial in, this isn’t really going to be a big problem because there are gates/walls that she can’t see through and she’s’ been there a lot more training than other places. This weekend she did ok on a few runs but definitely was distracted. The last run of the weekend, a dog eyed her right before we went in. She was doing ok, but then I took the leash off to try to get her to focus more with me, she took off and ran the fence line after the dog. We left the ring and scratched the run. I would say this is probably my #1 thing I need to work on with her but really haven’t had much of an opportunity because I haven’t trialed. At home, she’s all business. I wanted to get a plan for her, for that few seconds in between going in the ring, taking off the leash, and setting up on the startline. As soon as she’s running, she’s usually very good. I was thinking of working on playing with her leash for set up and keeping it on until she sets fully. Then quickly run off the startline. Here’s an example of a different run that she ran beautifully, but definitely was distracted at the beginning. I can’t remember exactly but I’m fairly certain I’m telling her her set up words for the startline and she’s ignoring them. So I took off her leash to engage her better. I wanted to explain this to see which games would be best to help her. And maybe you have a different idea for this. Kippy went through this and things don’t bother him anymore so I’m hoping it will just be a learning curve as she learns to understand the game more but I really hate it.
Here is Lesson 2 Course 3 sequences for success for both dogs.
Kippy – the first link is the runs edited together. The second link is coach’s eye analysis. For Kippy I only compared the different backside routes.
Emmie – the first link is the runs edited together. Second link is the different backside comparisons. And the third link is the fastest backside route compared to a wrap just for fun. She had bars down in the wrap route but it was pretty hot/humid so I wasn’t going to fix anything.
Kippy all runs
Kippy backside comparison
Emmie all runs
Emmie backside comparison
Emmie fastest backside route vs. wrap comparison
Oh and would you be able to send me the zig/zag and right/left training videos? I’m planning on starting on some of the soft turns with Emmie so figured I should probably check those videos out and add it to Kippy’s training list too.
Ok this is good to know. I played around with course 2 last night but was taking the extra step for collection. So maybe I’ll play around with decel instead.
I might be jumping the gun on this one and you are on the middle of writing a response but did you see these are for both dogs? First three links are Emmie and last three are Kippy. I’m just wondering if that changes your overall summary of who does what better?
Here is our sequences for success course 1. This is my first time playing around with coach’s eye so hopefully it’s ok. I was going to try to edit all the videos into one and did that on Kippy’s but it’s too hard to see. So I split these out for you instead. Also, YouTube is making me edit some of these as “shorts” so I’m hoping it doesn’t make some sort of viewing restrictions.
Emmie Course 1
Wrap to left Analysis
Wrap to Right Analysis
Kippy Course 1
Wrap to left analysis
Wrap to Right Analysis
Lesson 3 Skills Threadle Wrap with Emmie. Verbal is in-in for the threadle followed by ‘check’ for wraps to the right or ‘dig’ for wraps to the left. I also tend to help with my body cues.
Sequences for success Lesson 2 Course 3. Sorry for the mass postings tonight.
I played around with a threadle in the opening with both dogs. I’m not sure which is faster – the threadle or backside. I felt like I got a little disconnected with the backsides so they questioned for a split second. I had to work this threadle set-up with Kippy since we’ve only been doing it on one jump basically. I think adding two blew his mind a bit 🙂
With Kippy, you’ve seen the first part of this already where I had the issue with him reading the line as staying parallel to me and not take the jump. I also could not fix that blast out of the tunnel. I had to get there for a cross and showed way too much acceleration for him. He doesn’t have a verbal except for his name there so I feel like the only way I could fix it would be to not show as much motion before he goes into the tunnel. But that just puts me completely behind for the cross. Catch-22.
Emmie
Kippy
Sequences for success Lesson 2 Course 2
For Emmie, I felt like she was really questioning where she was going on some of the lines so lost speed. Also added a spin that really tightened up her turn even better. I also practiced the BC in place of the FC with both dogs. Not sure how much it changed the timing but it appeared like they knew where they were going better. My editing also got messed up in Kippy’s run but I think you’ll get the picture.
Emmie
Kippy
Here is the sequences to success for Lesson 2 Course 1 and our list of verbals for both dogs. I did all of the sequences to success courses/training sessions over several days. Also – I’m super sorry for not following directions – I just rewatched the video today and I wasn’t supposed to have barking dogs in the back. Totally forgot about that 🙁 For this course with Kippy, I practiced less motion/patience so he wouldn’t blow out of that tunnel. Forgot to stay on the inside on that last line of jumps on his final run though.
Emmie Verbals:
Right/left – sharp turns usually out of tunnels but will be used for the DW
Go – take the obstacles in front you in a straight line (usually jumps)
Jump – jump in extension
Check-wrap to the right
Dig- wrap to the left
In-in – threadle cue (my threadle wrap cue is ‘in-in’ with check or dig depending on the direction we are going)
Baaaaaack – backside
My threadle and backside cues are also heavily body position dependent if they will slice or wrap
Close – bypass obstacle cue
Obstacles – weaves, Teeter, pause for 2o2o on teeter, Touch for dogwalk, touch for A-frame
Still to be trained: Swing – soft turn right off DW, Turn – soft turn left off DWEmmie
Kippy verbals
Go – take the obstacles in front you in a straight line (usually jumps)
Back, back, back – backside
In-in threadle slice (I haven’t tried it yet but will probably use the same verbal for a threadle wrap and just support it with body position)
2o2o – pause
Dogwalk – pause
A-frame – touch
Teeter then pause
Around – circle a cone either direction; based off my body positionKippy
He read this as parallel motion again like you mentioned in your analysis above for jumpers course 1. It was super frustrating for me that day because I could not figure out what I was doing wrong for him to not take the jump and I didn’t want to fix it with a spin. But now it makes sense. I did practice later and used a threadle cue and it worked perfectly for him. This is really good info for me because he reads this parallel motion like this all the time and I’ve never been able to figure it out. Answer: just add a threadle cue lol.
Also that tunnel exit – I just could not fix the turn out of that no matter what I did. You’ll see that in the next videos.
But also, this is good info from him: he stays out wide when you close your shoulder forward – he reads it as a cue to stay on a parallel path. That is what happened at :23 on the 9 jump – he collected on the jump before it – and then you closed your shoulder so he ran around the outside.
Now that I”ve been practicing similar situations this week, would this be a good place for his threadle cue also?
