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Oh and would you be able to send me the zig/zag and right/left training videos? I’m planning on starting on some of the soft turns with Emmie so figured I should probably check those videos out and add it to Kippy’s training list too.
Ok this is good to know. I played around with course 2 last night but was taking the extra step for collection. So maybe I’ll play around with decel instead.
I might be jumping the gun on this one and you are on the middle of writing a response but did you see these are for both dogs? First three links are Emmie and last three are Kippy. I’m just wondering if that changes your overall summary of who does what better?
Here is our sequences for success course 1. This is my first time playing around with coach’s eye so hopefully it’s ok. I was going to try to edit all the videos into one and did that on Kippy’s but it’s too hard to see. So I split these out for you instead. Also, YouTube is making me edit some of these as “shorts” so I’m hoping it doesn’t make some sort of viewing restrictions.
Emmie Course 1
Wrap to left Analysis
Wrap to Right Analysis
Kippy Course 1
Wrap to left analysis
Wrap to Right Analysis
Lesson 3 Skills Threadle Wrap with Emmie. Verbal is in-in for the threadle followed by ‘check’ for wraps to the right or ‘dig’ for wraps to the left. I also tend to help with my body cues.
Sequences for success Lesson 2 Course 3. Sorry for the mass postings tonight.
I played around with a threadle in the opening with both dogs. I’m not sure which is faster – the threadle or backside. I felt like I got a little disconnected with the backsides so they questioned for a split second. I had to work this threadle set-up with Kippy since we’ve only been doing it on one jump basically. I think adding two blew his mind a bit 🙂
With Kippy, you’ve seen the first part of this already where I had the issue with him reading the line as staying parallel to me and not take the jump. I also could not fix that blast out of the tunnel. I had to get there for a cross and showed way too much acceleration for him. He doesn’t have a verbal except for his name there so I feel like the only way I could fix it would be to not show as much motion before he goes into the tunnel. But that just puts me completely behind for the cross. Catch-22.
Emmie
Kippy
Sequences for success Lesson 2 Course 2
For Emmie, I felt like she was really questioning where she was going on some of the lines so lost speed. Also added a spin that really tightened up her turn even better. I also practiced the BC in place of the FC with both dogs. Not sure how much it changed the timing but it appeared like they knew where they were going better. My editing also got messed up in Kippy’s run but I think you’ll get the picture.
Emmie
Kippy
Here is the sequences to success for Lesson 2 Course 1 and our list of verbals for both dogs. I did all of the sequences to success courses/training sessions over several days. Also – I’m super sorry for not following directions – I just rewatched the video today and I wasn’t supposed to have barking dogs in the back. Totally forgot about that 🙁 For this course with Kippy, I practiced less motion/patience so he wouldn’t blow out of that tunnel. Forgot to stay on the inside on that last line of jumps on his final run though.
Emmie Verbals:
Right/left – sharp turns usually out of tunnels but will be used for the DW
Go – take the obstacles in front you in a straight line (usually jumps)
Jump – jump in extension
Check-wrap to the right
Dig- wrap to the left
In-in – threadle cue (my threadle wrap cue is ‘in-in’ with check or dig depending on the direction we are going)
Baaaaaack – backside
My threadle and backside cues are also heavily body position dependent if they will slice or wrap
Close – bypass obstacle cue
Obstacles – weaves, Teeter, pause for 2o2o on teeter, Touch for dogwalk, touch for A-frame
Still to be trained: Swing – soft turn right off DW, Turn – soft turn left off DWEmmie
Kippy verbals
Go – take the obstacles in front you in a straight line (usually jumps)
Back, back, back – backside
In-in threadle slice (I haven’t tried it yet but will probably use the same verbal for a threadle wrap and just support it with body position)
2o2o – pause
Dogwalk – pause
A-frame – touch
Teeter then pause
Around – circle a cone either direction; based off my body positionKippy
He read this as parallel motion again like you mentioned in your analysis above for jumpers course 1. It was super frustrating for me that day because I could not figure out what I was doing wrong for him to not take the jump and I didn’t want to fix it with a spin. But now it makes sense. I did practice later and used a threadle cue and it worked perfectly for him. This is really good info for me because he reads this parallel motion like this all the time and I’ve never been able to figure it out. Answer: just add a threadle cue lol.
Also that tunnel exit – I just could not fix the turn out of that no matter what I did. You’ll see that in the next videos.
But also, this is good info from him: he stays out wide when you close your shoulder forward – he reads it as a cue to stay on a parallel path. That is what happened at :23 on the 9 jump – he collected on the jump before it – and then you closed your shoulder so he ran around the outside.
Now that I”ve been practicing similar situations this week, would this be a good place for his threadle cue also?
You serped the 11-12-13 line – it would be fun to try a FC 11-12 to a BC 12-13, or a BC to a BC and see how it compares to the serp.
I practiced this a little in the sequences to success. I’ll see how I did when I actually post it 😉
You can decelerate into 4 and give him a left cue (it was hard to hear what you were saying)
He has no “left/right” cues. I usually just call his name for turns out of tunnels. I might have been saying ‘jump’ here.
instead of letting your right arm come high and point forward on the back cue at :07 and :23, keep it back and look him in the eye as you cue the backside. The high arm moving forward rolls your shoulders to point to the front side of bar, and keeping your arm back and eyes on him will keep your shoulders open to the line to the backside.
I have to work on this/remember this with him.
When you sent him into it from a hard angle at :26, note how your arm was not involved, just your eyes – and it pointed your shoulders to the backside line perfectly! He nailed it!
Yes – totally worked here!
a nice RC on the 10 jump too! He probably just needs more experience driving to weave entries off a rear cross.
This was my “rear cross on the flat.” LOL – I told him to ‘switch’ into the weaves which was originally going to be my rear cross cue when I first trained it but for him but it really means turn away from me.
My only suggestion on that ending line is that we can tighten up the 15-16 line at the end: you can do the FC there closer to the 16 jump so he could see the position cue: you were moving across the center of the bar of 15, so he jumped long based on your line of motion.
Julie said this too. Ha.
or blind cross on landing side of 16.This would’ve been a great place to that.
Good opening! Remember to give her turns cues before she enters tunnel 2 (:03) so she has a tighter turn on the exit.
This week I noticed I was failing pretty miserably giving my verbals during the sequences to success as well.
She had a little trouble jumping the backside slice at the #5 jump at :08. Did I ever show you the zig zag grid? It would help for the jumping on that hard slice. If you haven’t seen it, I can post the videos
I have not seen the zig zag grid before. It would be great to see the videos.
The line from the 10 jump to the weaves requires a rear cross (I think you mentioned these were your favorite? LOL!) So you can set that on the flat a bit more: pull her into you then turn her away on the flat, kind of like a tandem turn so she is already turned before you show her 10. If she has not seen those, let me know and we can break it down. She was getting it after that but we can smooth it out with an earlier cue.
This is funny because I actually can do rear crosses on the flat pretty well – its’ the “real” rear crosses I can’t do. I was trying so hard to do a “real” one and was so excited I got it after that really bad one.
I’m finally getting to the review of these jumpers runs. It’s been one of those weeks which I feel like you’re having as well with all the traveling you were doing.
He was a little wide on 3 in the opening – the need to get to the tunnel exit is causing you to lose the finesse at 3 on that line – so you can send and leave with a bit of decel. I liked when you did it all dog on left – if you send and leave to 3 (no spin) then you will easily be ahead of him on your left side to get the weave entry
I don’t know why I didn’t just do this. It was like I was purposely making this hard on myself. It just seemed like a good way to run it when I walked it initially.
On the 6-7-8 line: He is keeping you honest on your timing and connection on the blinds: you had connection to him on landing of 6 at :28 and :39 then before he could really get to you right side, you looked forward so he read it as a blind – boom, quick side change to the jump. The FC got it done but I liked your original plan like you did with Emmie. You can get it by making really strong eye contact with him on your right side, see him pick up being on your right side – then do the next blind.
I’ve been trying to work the fast blinds with him instead of the fronts on some of these drills to get better at them. I’m used to “floating” into the blinds and not just changing sides quickly.
