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Tunnel threadle session, I knew this would be hard for her! There were a few more failures that I cut out. Towards the beginning I did one that was “successful” but I really patted my leg and babysat it. Towards the end I experimented with showing more motion into and out of the tight turn and she read it immediately. I don’t think the arm cues were excessive, but it did require some steps backwards. Too much or just right?
Did a session on the “switch” cue this morning that at the time I thought went great, nearly perfect, but in watching the video I’m not sure if I’m “helping” too much? Too much feet turning at the jump to cue it or toy out too early to call her past? I also realized that when I was preparing to do the blind I couldn’t cue with the outside arm like when I wasn’t doing the side change, but I think the connection and feet pointed towards the jump probably cued it. The blind was inevitably late because of how close the wing is to the jump- by the time she saw and committed to the jump she was only one stride from it.
Oh she’s also in heat this week, my first experience with this as an owner and not a patient, so that’s been fun 😎
It was technically her second, I had done one that morning and one in the afternoon (this was from the afternoon) but they were nearly identical as far as what occurred so I only included clips from one session.
I have struggled with what verbal to use for a “jump”. As noted “go on go” just means carry on in a straight line (I would like it to mean take the obstacle on your line AND carry on in a straight line after it, and have it apply to jumps, tunnels, dog walk, etc). Tight and ski cue take the jump and wrap right/left, and jump and hup cue take the jump and turn gently right/left. There was a scenario in a seminar course where I struggled recently with my adult dog (who has very few verbals). Jump 1 taken straight on, with a straight tunnel straight ahead, and the jump they were supposed to take about 4’ to the side of it and the course continued straight ahead to a backside after that; it was advantageous to layer the tunnel to support the backside at #3. Logistically I’d like to use “go on go” to indicate going straight after #2, but I can see how this doesn’t tell the dog which obstacle is #2. Is there a way around this without having yet another verbal? I tried setting him up for #1 so he could only see the jump, but this didn’t really work. The seminar presenter just stood in front of the tunnel so we could move on to the rest of the handling bits on the course but I’m still scratching my head how to approach this with “future” dogs (ie Beat).A wee bit rainy today but squeezed in a session on layering. Interesting that turning right (her worse direction) she tended to drift out to the far side of the jump and turning left (good direction) she drifted in between the jump and the tunnel. On my left (turning right) I felt like I had to do a lot more work than necessary to get her to turn and find the jump, like I was having to do a false turn to get her on the right line.
Here is a bit of the diamond game with the blind crosses. It’s actually two sessions, one this morning and one this afternoon (when she said it was actually rather hot!) The first rep was very late, the second was a bit better, and the third I tried to be closer to the wing where I was doing the blind so my position would help commit her to it and my motion away would be more obvious and help her turn and I think the turns got better after that in both directions. I really struggled at the end with just the race track part with getting her to actually commit to the things. I left in a bit in the second session of me practicing the sequences, just to prove I did it, though I have no idea what I was doing with my arm on one of them (adjusting my shirt?) Don’t know if she was just hot and tired or if it was a connection error, but I felt like I had to babysit her the whole way around and escort her from wing to wing. And since I couldn’t trust the commitment my blind was late. Something I always seem to have an issue with with young dogs, never knowing if they are going to hold commitment so I can blind early enough.
Judged again today, so minimal opportunity for training, but we made it work at the end of the day. She got to hang out with the handful of us course building, which was valuable learning in itself about not jumping on people and minding her own business running around with her toy.
Did a quick session of wrap/tunnel discriminations while the trial committee was filing out. She’d already met all these people while we were course building which made for some good learning about dealing with interruptions and I think she made some good choices at the end there. And ooof! She learned that going from anti-slip tunnel to turf requires some self regulation! (To be fair, pretty sure she did the same thing her very first rep doing a tunnel in the dirt arena).
She had some great stuff, but again I probably should have quit after the first side. Ski and tunnel she can figure out the difference, tight and tunnel she cannot. I tried to make sure it was VERY easy for her on all of the tights after her two failures with saying the cue, then placing the toy as a visual, then releasing, but I think I forgot a time or two.
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The only big reaction I’ve gotten from her in a “trial environment” was only sort of a trial environment. We were course building for the trial the next day in the arena and a few friends and I had let our puppies (a Mudi and a Border Pap) hang out to play in the arena while we did so. Someone started a tractor to move it which spooked all the pups a bit, pretty normal reaction but they all got over it after a quick startle. But then the judge’s 9 year old daughter appeared from where the tractor had just disappeared and Beat did lose it a bit barking at her. We had the girl go out and come in a different entrance but same thing so I just leashed her, kept her moving and playing her pattern game until it was clear she wasn’t just going to get over it and then put her up so we could finish course building. So it was at a trial, but pretty unique circumstances and I think the main trigger was the tractor. Had her outside the next day while the little girl was just milling about and no real reaction.We did some work on the rear cross exercise this afternoon. It was quite warm and she’s definitely not acclimated yet. There was a several minute break of sitting in the shade between working the first and second directions, so this is essentially two sessions. I left in me practicing the handling and the verbals (sped up the video). We struggled a bit with the warm up exercise of just having her drive ahead to the jump. When doing the rear cross, she found it easier if I moved faster and was really running/driving the new direction rather than trying to move slower and be less distracting.
As far as the lateral lead outs, I was sort of testing how much support she needed, so you’re right, I definitely should have rewarded when she came with me since I was really pushing the edge of how far I KNEW she could commit from.
And as for the FedEx guy, I think he ran because he was legit afraid! He jumped a mile when she rushed at him, and I can’t say I blame him, she was being kinda scary for her (I’m sure he’s seen way worse on any average day). She’s had some stranger danger since about 6 months, mostly in less populated areas just as you noted. It has gotten quite a bit better recently, partly because of working the pattern games with her in those situations, partly maturity, and also partly because I take her with a buddy most of the time now. My terriers may have their faults but stranger danger isn’t one of them! (Only Rattie I ever had with that issue was a foster during COVID who hit adolescence I think right when everything went into lockdown.) One of those herdy breed traits I know exists, but I’ve never had to deal with in my own dogs.
As for managing it at home, I can take a slip lead out with me and close the gate to the potty yard (since she also nailed herself rushing through the gate). I have a good old agility table I can use as a station, though may need to rethink where I put it.
I guess we have a good excuse for being behind now lol. Good news is she seems to still be doing great.
For first session back I figured something nice and easy was in order. I did the find the jump exercise with the jump at 15’ from the tunnel (in hindsight, could have even started at 17-18’ and I think still have had pretty good success). Video is 4 minutes, however there are 2 minutes of her having a meltdown about the FedEx guy towards the end. You don’t have to watch the whole 2 minutes worth if you think that once you’ve seen 20 seconds of a meltdown you’ve seen plenty. There is one rep after it and she did refocus well for that one rep so definitely was time to call it quits then. Meltdown was maybe less dramatic than a few months ago, but still a meltdown I don’t really want her having in public or where she doesn’t have a fence stopping her access to the creepy thing.In all honesty, I was tempted to end the session after working the first direction, which would have been right at the 2 minute mark (but quitting after two failures would have meant quitting after the first two reps, which would have made this feel like a pretty meaningless session. I DID make my handling very easy and obvious at that point, knowing she now also had a person hovering behind her). I knew I would not have another opportunity to work the second direction for probably a long time, and since by then she seemed to have figured out the game we were playing, I expected the second direction would be super quick (it wasn’t). I guess I just can’t help but feel behind on everything, haven’t even made it through most of the week 3 stuff. Trials and new places may be the majority of the chances we have to do training for the next few months.
I fit in a session or two this weekend while I was at a trial. Two rings, pretty noisy. Didn’t film yesterday, but did some wraps around a barrel with discriminations of wrapping either direction on the verbal which went well other than the one time I had to make a quick grab for her harness when she suddenly noticed the dog running in the ring. Prior to that, she hadn’t even looked.
So today I played it a little safer and worked her while they were doing a walk through instead. The walk through is to the right of the camera view. The other end of the building there were dogs running, but she couldn’t really see them from here. Video is a bit long, but I left in her working through quite a bit of stuff. She did well with that first person who came up to watch and the Golden hanging in the background, but not the second person who walked past while she was in a stay. Not sure if this was just too much for her right now? Not really sure how else to test the waters with giving her some chances to work in this type of environment without risking her making that kind of mistake. On leash she hadn’t made any mistakes either day, and only got distracted while off leash (and pretty much within arms length of me the whole session) by the fast running dog the day before so I thought I was setting her up better since there weren’t any dogs running.I tried to warm her up with just some static serps, but she was confusing it with the threadle cue. A while back I did feel like she needed a verbal cue, “push”, for the serp cue to help differentiate from the threadle cue, especially when doing it statically. Might not need it once doing it in sequence, but I know some people have needed a verbal cue for the convergence and just thinking about how BW run, I thought it might be worth it, even with me trying to minimize my verbal cues!
Another exercise with no verbals, set point. Other than a few sneaky broken stays, I thought it looked rather nice. Fair warning: as her whippet side is completely unproven in sports and the BC side is herding lines, I’m probably going to obsess over watching her jumping form for ETO until she’s 4!
Figured a game without any verbals required would be a good one to take on the road today. Had to get creative about the pill bug setup, but I think this works. I could feel when I wasn’t turned back far enough with my right arm on those where she cut behind me, totally my fault. (Agility is so much easier when it’s warm enough to not need a winter coat!) That first one was funny too when she had no idea what the game was and went “WHEE! I’ll just send to this weird looking ginormous jump wing over here.”
That is a great suggestion about the verbals. I DO mentally walk through each exercise before running it (you saw me do so in the live class, and of course I still made some mistakes) and sort of mumble the verbals quietly as I picture the movements in my head. But this is clearly not enough because even after several years of trying and being open to training them, I am NOT getting better with verbals and it’s been very frustrating. With the movements I feel like I can picture that easier in my head and then just DO it (even when I was still learning them), but the words this really hasn’t been the case. I feel like I need to make the pairing a bit more automatic- do the movement AND the words (and make sure that the verbal comes BEFORE the physical cue from a cleanliness of training perspective?) I like that this might serve a dual purpose to teach her to ignore words and cues not directed at her while I have her on a boundary or scatter feed while I do the walk through!
Last week was a bit of a bust for training, and then I was judging for 3 days straight. Only just started some of the week 2 material. Here is a first try on some tunnel turns. “Jump” and “hup” don’t really make sense as tunnel verbals, so I’m going with “gee” and “haw”. Luckily “jump” is right and “hup” is left, so gee and haw weren’t that far of a leap to make! I didn’t really introduce these verbals on the minny Pinny, this is her first time hearing “gee” and being asked to turn out of a tunnel. Pretty comical I think!
When she did finally turn out of the tunnel and I tried to cue that jump wing, I did not mean for it to be a wrap away to the left (ski) I just said the wrong word (gosh this is going to be so hard!) I don’t think she wrapped left because of the verbal, I think the physical cue was also late so she had curled in and by that point it was easier to wrap that way.
Those first reps of just doing wraps to the tunnel, I think I need to remember to remove my hat. I noticed years ago that with that style hat it hides enough of the side of my face that from the dogs level they can’t even see my head turned to the side. Whoopsie!
