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Mary Ann
ParticipantThe top 2 factors were that it is a big leap (pun intended :)) from indoors with food in your hand to outdoors without food – too big of a step forward for now until we add a few more skills to his toolbox. We begin those steps tomorrow!
I understand. Just FYI This shutdown happens indoors as well as outdoors. Where I train weekly has UKI trials and in a trial environment, he shutdown also. The trial site this past weekend I have done dropped in classes too. Looking forward to the next steps.
– will he play with the toy on the leash, or a toy in your hand? That can smooth the transition from outside the ring to inside the wing, by bringing the fun into the ring at trials. If he won’t like a tug toy, we can use an empty lotus ball attached to a long line. That will both increase his arousal in a good way, and help him transition into the ring.
He loves to play tug at home. Since I am not looking at any trials until December to run NFC. I am going to see if I can transfer him playing with a toy in the ring. Also I have used a treat holder in the ring. Maybe I can attach a long line to that.
– if he will play with a toy and you do an NFC run, don’t start with a stay 🙂 That is the most stressful position! Instead, run to a tunnel and send him through a tunnel to get him running. Getting him running and chasing you with a toy will be a big breakthrough moment!
What he loves is his contacts. I could just go to the teeter or dog walk. I have done that in the past and he gets focused.
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Mary Ann.
Mary Ann
ParticipantTook Knight to a small UKI trial this morning. As you can see he was very happy outside the ring. My execution could have been better but he was happy and jumping up which I am training as bouncing. When he went into the ring his happiness faded. Took the lead off and as you can see he wanted to leave. Put the lead back on asap and ran out of the ring happy. You can see his demeanor changed for the positive and got his goodies. Kind of happy this occurred so you can actually see what goes on. Working on 2 games bouncing or jumping up and leg weaves.
Mary Ann
ParticipantAnd I know that location – I am scheduled to teach a seminar there in July!!
Yes I know. I was told yesterday by the person who is organizing the seminar that you were coming. Got the dates marked on my calendar.A suggestion to maintain his drive and engagement while reducing stress: get the reward in by either continuing after a handling blooper, or reward immediately and enthusiastically (don’t stop him and don’t ignore him).
Okay I will work on this in my class. Either continue on like nothing happen just like running in competition. If a stop make sure I praise and reward immediately.And while he was very resilient there, I don’t want him to have to be resilient 🙂 You can continue and fix it on the next run. Plus continuing is great to get us humans to think on our feet, which is great prep for trials!
Question: After I complete the run and reward and praise him, would it be okay then to go back where I had an issue and just work on that section since I still have time?On the re-start, he came out of the weaves when you changed your pace from walking to running. You didn’t change your pace on the next rep til he was done with the weaves, so that is definitely something to train on (changes of pace while he is weaving).
Okay definitely will put it on my list to work on.
Thank you Tracy
Mary Ann
ParticipantMary Ann
ParticipantHe was awesome. The pattern games got him going. Have 2 videos for your review. I could see he was so focused and happy so I let him take couple jumps.
Video 2 I took him to the beginning of the run to see if he would stay focus and happy. Again, and just let him play. I guess my question is how do I get him to be this high when we got into the ring without food. Maybe I am jumping ahead 🙂
Video 3
I had Knight scheduled to run in a young international seminar so today I thought I alternate with my other boy. Before he entered the ring we did do the pattern game. My main purpose was to have him run happy and focus abd as you can see he was
Video 4 This was his last run. Again main purpose happy and focus.
Again I will be running him Tuesday in a class at the building where he shutdown also this coming Saturday he can run FEO in speedstakes
Mary Ann
ParticipantHow did he do on Day 2 with the steak & cheese? I am trying to get a feel for his preferences and what helps him 🙂
Steak definitely higher then chicken and then cheese.
Also I should add on the second day we used the Treat and Train. Sat on the ground and let him go over the jump himself and clicked the Treat and Train and/or gave him steak. He started focusing and did couple jumps and ran out of the ring happy. Second time. He was in shutdown mode again and just engage with him on the floor as same at the first time out. Third time out. The Treat and Train was put in front of the jump. He took it. Next moved the Treat and Train about 2 feet. Over the jump by doing a backside and right to the Treat and Train. Did this 2 more times. Then he just did a sequence of 6 jumps focused and confident. Hope this gives you some insight.To help him *not* shut down, the pattern games are going to be a great first step. When is your next scheduled seminar or place where he might struggle? We can make a plan 🙂
Next scheduled event is this weekend. On Friday I will be doing run through a with him. (Will have 2 or 3 sessions in the run through.) I was planning on doing the 2 pattern games and spinning outside of the ring and then inside and gage him. This will be a location that he has only been there once or twice just walking in the building and doing a practice jump. If need be, I can also do another run through on Sunday.
Also I have planned to do a class on Tuesday at the place where he shutdown at the seminar. He has been to this place many times and was running great. I want to see how he responses in a class environment there again.
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Mary Ann.
Mary Ann
ParticipantHow did class go? Was he happy and focused?
Class was great. He was focused, running and barking like the little dynamo he is.
It sounds like he was concerned about the pressure perhaps? In the seminar, did you have the treats with you? And, you can also develop a hierarchy of treats: for the practice jump, he can get lower value treats. For entering the ring, you can bring out the amazing treats like cheese or chicken. What are some of his favorites?
Yes I had his regular treats the first day. On the second day I had a variety of treats – steak, cheese, and his regular treats.
Favorites Definitely chicken, steak, cheese, etc.
We will develop a series of games that you can use to help him enter the ring with confidence, so practicing the pattern games and then doing the tricks as you move to the line are an excellent start! And later in class, we will be teaching him to do it all without the treats in the ring too 🙂
okay
Thank you so much
Mary Ann
ParticipantThe sequencing will be fun too, of course, but it sounds like he is doing great on course when he is comfortable.
Yes he does great when he is comfortable. He runs UKI master courses in class.
I did the 2 pattern games with the lead and without the lead at home yesterday and his latency was low.
Today in class while waiting to go into the ring, I did the 2 pattern games lead and off lead as well as the spin that he knows and he did great. Before our run in class I did the 2 pattern game again along with the spin and no issue.I am guessing he is motivated by food? Does he like toys too? And it sounds like moving really helps get him pumped up, based on how he enjoys running over the contacts 🙂
Yes very food motivated. When I started working on certain turns, etc, I used the Treat Holding Fleece Toy that Clean Run sales.
Toys, He loves to tug but only at home.
Yes I believe moving helps. Note: I have tried working on the practice jump with him outside the seminar and he loved working, but going into the ring he shutdown. -
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