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We have been doing well with seeming to get some understanding of Kips soft Right/left commands. Surprisingly its been in the Zig/zag serp training where he’s having a bit of a struggle especially with the come in cues. He seems to be somewhat resistant to the cues I’m giving. Perhaps his instincts to stay wide are part of the challenge which makes him seem resistant to the come in cues in the serp line? here are some videos of a quick training session. He also misses the go out cue occasionally but I think that is usually locked on to toy in my hand. Would u say manners minder might be useful here?
In the second video I made the gaps wider which seemed to help make it a bit easier for him.
Great feedback Tracy. You’re awesome
Ok you’ve convinced me to work more more with verbals. I certainly don’t want to be stuck in the old generation! Lol. Do you think for wrapping left and right just increasing the repetition of the word left/right could signal a tighter turn for the dog. I.e. for a send soft turn it would be “right——— right” but for a closer tight wrap turn the verbal would be a stronger much faster “rightrightriririright”? And same for left. Easier for me but rather is it advisable to have totally different words as you do have?As far as the come in- go out nature of the parallel chest I’m not totally clear. Am I correct in thinking that in the backside send we are emphasizing more the “go out” element of the cue while the SERP/threadle situation emphasizes the entire come in then go out elements of the cue. I know they both work on course empirically especially with a bit out shoulder rotation to emphasize the go out
backside cue. But then againWe also use can use the outside bent arm threadle cue to emphasize “come in”. Just trying to understand- I usually get this stuff pretty easily.This video is one not sent in before from the Lines Lines work showing a send to the backside.
From what we worked on in last night s live class, I’m a little confused about what a square chest is supposed to mean to the dog? In the wing/SERP exercises you had me square, ie. make parallel to the dogs line, when he supposed to come in thru the gap. It seemed like in the Lines Lines seminar the trailing hand back with a squaring of the chest was to add pressure to the dogs line to send him out to the backside of the jump. I’m not understanding very well how, what seems to me to be similar posture positions, are supposed to have different meanings for the dog in different contextual situations?On the “find the jump” when you throw the toy/treat over the finishing jump, sometimes you use your wshooooo sound and sometimes you don’t. What does it mean? I thought it was sort of a run by me while ignoring toy/me command? Why not the “ get it” command we are working on.
I’ve just spent two years trying to train a super talented, but total adrenaline junkie crazy Pyr-shep, who never misses an invitation to switch into super exciting handler focus. Through numerous talented expensive trainers we finally figured out that he runs best by making the handling as uninteresting and quiet as possible; quiet arms, quiet hands purposeful feet and especially a quiet mouth with minimal not repeated, spoken commands and control primarily thru lines and motion can produce great runs with him. if only I’d trained a running dog walk and given up on demanding start line stays. Oh well, now I’ve got Kipling
So now I have fortunately arrived at Agility Universe where verbals are abundant but a bit of a shock to my handling system,Also I mentioned that running with a toy creates some “toy attraction” issues with Kip as he seems to think the game is now about finding and getting the hidden toy! My thoughts are that maybe just running with a big obvious non-hidden toy that has my clear “no-no” attached to it while running might be more obvious and acceptable to him than always trying to keep a hidden toy from him while running. Any words of wisdom?
I like the idea of developing verbals for what you are calling a soft left/right after a tunnel or after a jump send. I don’t have those verbals now but I do want to develop them. Still not sure about the directional wrap cues as I don’t really trust my own ability to be perfect about saying them correctly in competition lol
First work at tunnel directional verbals. This will be a real test of understanding for Kip because he will have to turn away from his very favorite thing which is to send to a long 2×2 channel and run thru a line of jumps
This is Kiplings first attempt at the Clean Markers game. He’s not particularly motivated with food -much more excited with toys. I’m very excited to really work this game as Kiplings toy focus is definitely an issue in his sequence training if I run with toy in hand. He is Often breaking connection to focus on and lunge for the toy. If we can get his immediate attention off of the toy in hand, training will definitely be more productive! I would prefer to be able to train with toy in hand because it make forward centered rewarding so much easier and more immediate.
Here is first attempts with and without food. I’m not sure about the timing, I’m guessing the “get it ” timing is when he turns away to expect the reward
Thanks for the awesome feedback. And yes I do need to work him more with startling sits and positioning. He’s been such a great boy from the beginning that I probably haven’t done enough obedience and heeling work with him. Kerry Levin suggested that I do more perch work and circle work with him to get him better oriented to my side and to try to eliminate his flanking behavior especially his cutting behind me to get the toy. I also have entered him in a herding workshop focusing on folding downs and getting downs at a distance. He has his first puppy herding lesson this PM.
