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October 18, 2022 at 12:43 pm in reply to: š Cindi and Ripley (Border Collie – 19 months old) š #41894
Cindi Delany
ParticipantA little bit of jump proofing and then the first exercise of zig zag.
Jump proofing just cut out some toy play between reps, so all reps shown (about 1 minute of toy play between reps cut out since I feel like you’ve seen plenty of Rip’s toy play and general attitude). Working mostly on calling over the jump after he’s committed and also starting front cross with verbal while he’s taking off or in the air (something I might “hypothetically” do).
First exercise of Zig Zag stuff. Started with about 9 feet between the wings and closed down to about 3-4 feet over the session (doing both sides). Just cut out a bit of setup time but this shows all reps. About a 4-minute session overall. He did see some of this in MaxPup a ways back and do practice this kind of isolated slice work over jumps but we haven’t really revisited the flatwork part.
October 17, 2022 at 12:47 pm in reply to: š Cindi and Ripley (Border Collie – 19 months old) š #41867Cindi Delany
ParticipantPupās forced day off after a 3 day show so just a few minutes of platform organizer.
I donāt have a square his size (just for Mighty Mouse) so using our Cato plank. Worked best tucked under the seat to leave a square. Weāve used it most for 2o2o but also for some conditioning and other stuff.
Going from kibble to cheeseballs made it harder for him to think. Heās a clown. š¤”
October 13, 2022 at 1:29 pm in reply to: š Cindi and Ripley (Border Collie – 19 months old) š #41708Cindi Delany
ParticipantYes, he hadn’t seen that long toy in a while and definitely was thinking of grabbing my handle, not the fluffy or hollee roller part.
Today we worked on jump distractions and then motion over-ride a bit (my field developed some small sinkholes during the last rain so avoiding jump sequences until I know that’s not a safety hazard).
Jump Proofing
Motion Over-Ride
October 12, 2022 at 1:36 pm in reply to: š Cindi and Ripley (Border Collie – 19 months old) š #41645Cindi Delany
ParticipantGreat webinar session last night. Thank goodness for class. I love having some specific skills to work on that are built up incrementally. Left to my own devices I tend to just start running around doing little sequences without a ton of specific skill focus.
We did head turn and moving target from the Foundations set of exercises. I do think he’s seen both of these in MaxPup but it has been a while now.
Here’s head turn (this is about the full session just a bit cut out of treat/clicker/indicating hand sorting out and prop trade out):
Here’s moving target (this is the full session, just cut out setting up the little jump bump):
Cindi Delany
ParticipantYes, I am learning that he can be very precise. Means I kind of need to get and keep my shit together even on crazy fast, long technical courses. š¤
Got a hypothetical question. Say someone and their hypothetical dog do a USDAA or UKI show and are running in a class not declared FEO or NFC. If the hypothetical dog breaks their start line and the hypothetical handler wants to treat it the way they would at home or class and cheerfully reset him and either run with him or re-attempt the lead out. What would the judge do?
Call it a refusal and team eliminated but can still attempt the rest of the course, call it training in the ring and team eliminated but can continue to attempt the course or get really mad and tell them to get off the course?
Asking for a friend. š¤£
Cindi
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Cindi Delany.
Cindi Delany
ParticipantOkay, we’re back from our big trip/camp experience, the weather has finally cooled off (we could do some training the past week but not a lot with it being 110-116 so I mostly did some jump grid stuff to get him comfortable at 22″) and the smoke from wildfires is minimal in our area today.
We worked on some Decel exercise from the Week 9 content (I think it was Week 9) using just position and lack of motion as the cue, no verbal. I think he did well. Looks to me like he’s wrapping a little tighter to the left than the right. We started at 16″ and ended with a few reps at 22″ since he’s got his first USDAA trial coming up next weekend. Hoping he doesn’t stand on his tiptoes when he gets measured so that he measures as 21″ or under.
One weird rep where it was a send but I didnāt step to the jump at all and he opted for a rear cross wrap on his own (wrapped left when I was on his right). I tried to remember to step to the jump after that to be less ambiguous.
We have had an issue at a couple of shows last month where the jump standards are super light-weight and not winged PVC where as he jumps and is turning in the air his tail is wrapping sideways horizontally and hitting the flimsy wing and knocking it over or just enough to drop the bar. No idea if there’s anything to do about that, other than avoid venues with the super flimsy uprights/standards (and maybe tell them their standards suck). It doesn’t happen in this session but just remembering it from a few shows (NADAC and CPE where fewer or no jumps have wings).
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Cindi Delany.
Cindi Delany
ParticipantFirst of all, you are a beast. I canāt believe how hard you work and how much of yourself you put into everything you do. I feel so lucky to get to do both online and IRL training with you.
Rip had another great day yesterday and Iām finally getting a little more comfortable with blinds. So much of it goes back to the baby dog skills you broke down for us in this MaxPup series. So often when the camp instructors say āwho has worked on this skillā – verbals, wraps, commitment, connection, etc. I can raise my hand and remember a game you had us do (sometimes in our living rooms) that worked on exactly that skill.
Iām hugely appreciative. š
Here are an Ashley and then Desiree sequence from yesterday, both of which have deep roots in our baby games. š
Cindi Delany
ParticipantSounds good. I know I was reaching for his collar for the next send into the tunnel do to the full course, which normally he is good with, but like the ready, ready dance from MaxPup1 is a bit arousing.
I did realize in his first couple of little shows that by the end of a run he is too aroused for crazy excited praise in the ring. Iāve been ending those runs by having him come to my side and sit while I gently tell him how great he is and then I send him to find his leash (he goes to the leash hanger and touches it with his nose and I put it on him).
Iāll make sure to work in the calmer stuff between the arousing stuff (especially at camp and shows).
Cindi Delany
ParticipantHey Tracy,
Hereās that rep I mentioned at the end of our session this morning. This was our last turn. Weād just done a couple of short sequences 13-16 trying to get that wing wrap out of the tunnel right where it was my handling that was off, not his responses (he got the backside then I pulled him off it, then this rep he got it right). I tugged with him after but you and I were also talking quite a bit and on the way to start the full sequence Iām distracted trying to remember the different passes through the 2-4 bit.
Watching it back I can see his frustration a little bit still wouldnāt have totally expected the face launch. I duplicated the incident in this clip, zoomed in and slowed it down. His mouth is open the whole time and the only contact was that he actually smacked my lower jaw up into my upper, but no tooth contact at all. Heās done this a few times at shows and class. Typically after sequences where there was a mistake and I just kept going without acknowledging it but he knows because things get a bit chunky even when I keep going.
In retrospect I should have had him go between my legs for some calm cookies after the initial tug reinforcement so he could collect his thoughts and emotions while I talked and thought.
Cindi Delany
ParticipantWe hung out at West Coast Cup for 4 days, then have been on the road to Washington. See you at camp tomorrow. But, lurking on Dellinās thread this AM (weāve been virtually doing classes with Dellin since Ripley was 6 weeks old š).
Iād love to hear more about the resilience training you were mentioning. I feel like all dogs need it. Rip goes the opposite direction of Dellin and gets frustrated with me when he knows somethingās gone wrong. So, even though it looks very different, itās the same emotional basis (lack of clarity, confusion, worry, etc.) and then expressing those emotions in a way that may not be super productive and happy making.
Cindi Delany
ParticipantYes, makes sense – and teaches me to read the fine print. I think I saw where it said normal UKI rules and assumed that included NFC stuff. I remembered you had your young dogs in Speedstakes at the last US Open and was thinking theyād been NFC then. I even thought one or both of the shows would have titling classes/dogs running courses based on level. All good -Iāll greatly modify our plan and expectations.
They do have a practice ring at both our Cup and Open so thinking weāll go for the experience and fun since itās close enough to drive and weāve already got things arranged and have our own pretend show using the practice ring a lot. This weekendās Cup weāll plan to do lots or all NFC (unless a speedstakes or Gamblers looks doable). Open weāll probably just scratch or modify and accept elimination unless something looks remotely doable.
Thank you so much for helping me figure this out. Iāll start reading entries (especially for venues I havenāt done a lot) much more closely.
Cindi Delany
ParticipantHey Tracy,
Nothing to post today but just wanted to ask about NFC at UKI. Ripās done 1 UKI show but was only 15 months so could only do the Speedstakes class. Heās 18 months old (tomorrow) and because we have so few UKI shows in our area we entered the next 2 – 1 of which is a āCupā – West Coast Cup and the other is an āOpenā – West Coast Open. My plan is to run NFC (especially since I didnāt quite understand there wouldnāt be courses by dogās level – sounds like everyone runs the same course). Other venues Iāve done havenāt really had these types of trials so took me a while to realize how it worked.
Anyway, sounds like I can run him NFC in any class even at these types of trials – is that right? Even classes like Snooker and Gamblers? Do you know what amount of time they give you on the course if you are NFC in a game that doesnāt have a regular SCT?
Also, looking forward to seeing you at camp in WA at the end of next week. Forecast looks good so far (much better than the 115 it hit when we were there last summer for a Shade Whitesel toy play workshop).
Cindi
Cindi Delany
ParticipantAs far as I can tell that CPE “extra” DTIR rules I got before last weekend’s trial was not real, probably some really old version that was kind of a combination FNG (Fix N’Go) and DTIR. I’m sticking with what’s in their online rules book which is much less restrictive. No one has fussed at me yet for what I’ve been doing.
Posting 3 videos – trying to catch up and feeling a little behind – but thank goodness for the live classes I’m not too far behind to be able to catch up (hopefully – what’s our last posting date for this class?).
Here’s some teeter angles (we’re working IRL on sticking the 2o2o so I used the regular teeter):
Here’s a little bit of Zig Zag, I flattened the angles until he couldn’t bounce it and stopped:
And, some lap and tandem turns from tunnel to wings:
Cindi Delany
ParticipantUPDATE: Sounds likely that DTIR stuff from this weekendās CPE trial is actually not correct and/or is out of date. Trial organizer is checking with the judge due to the discrepancies between the doc and what is shown in CPEās online rulebook.
Cindi Delany
ParticipantYes, the CPE thing is perplexing. It doesnāt match up with whatās in the rulebook online. And, according to this Iāve been breaking lots of rules in my DTIR runs at the 2 CPE shows heās done. Iāve been tugging after each contact, having hop back on and continuing the run, then having him tug at the end of the course as we leave. Iāve emailed the trial person who sent this to ask where it is coming from.
I guess I also did not realize they can grab their leash but you canāt have the other end and let them tug. With Rip thatās not a super active choice. If he grabs it and Iām holding it he would likely start to tug. I havenāt been doing that since Iām encouraging him not to snatch it from leash runners, but will need to switch to a non-tug type leash if thatās real.
Do you have specifics from UKI or USDAA on this stuff? I really donāt want to be breaking any rules, especially because I find getting yelled at or whistled off a course stressful and sad for the dog.
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