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ParticipantThanks for the feedback! Unfortunately, we’ve had a thing happen and Dreamer now has stitches in his tail so can’t run for a while. *sigh* I hope he heals up quickly but tails are a pain.
>>>I think it is more about being reactive, meaning you are waiting to see what he will do before going to the next thing, rather than being proactive: seeing him lock onto a line then just leaving for the next thing. We will definitely be working on that this summer!<<<
yes, I definitely need help with this!
I’m a bit stressed with the tail stitches so I will read back more in a bit. π
cynthia
ParticipantThanks for the feedback! I appreciate the wisdom on why the bars are coming down. I am training at full height (16″) because my backyard is pretty soft, and I want to see how he handles these things at full height and if bars come down. And I don’t think I’m training him too much. π
I will admit I’m not great at decel. For some reason, my brain has a hard time running fast and then slowing down. It’s like a very difficult try of walking and chewing gum at the same time for me. :p. I should probably go practice it without a dog. And sometimes, like if a tunnel is involved, Dreamer can ignore my decel anyway since he loves to extend!
When I went out and trained this morning (before I dropped him off at the vet to have his tail looked at under sedation), I really tried to think of starting my blind after 3 when he was taking off for 2. I think I did better! The tunnel isn’t in the right position because I had it out to train with Kaz yesterday, and I was too lazy to move it. :p But, since I was so proud of my blind, I wasn’t in the right position and he took the tunnel. LOL. I also put that off course jump out, and he didn’t seem to think about that much at all. But watching today, my timing and positioning still aren’t great. I’m still tending to be late in my cue or in the wrong position, which still causes him to take down bars.
So this is challenging for me, to be in the right positions, get my cues out at the right time, and do the decel. It taxes my brain!
And I don’t really trust him to take things without my supporting them. I think I should really take your counter-motion course and do it on my own. I never really realized how important counter motion is for a fast dog. I didn’t really need it for my slower shorter dogs when I was running them. However, I’m sure it will be a really good skill for Kaz to have too.
BAHAAHHA I didn’t even noticed he missed jump 2 until I watched the video again! Ooops!
When doing exercise 2, I moved the first jump a bit so it would set him up for a backside like you suggested. I did have to0 show him to turn left away from me, which took a bit of work. Then he took the back side, but would swing wide and not take the jump. So that whole session just ended up being… take jump 1, wrap to the left, take the backside then collect and turn over the jump for the toy. π
However, reading your feedback again, I still used too much arm on the backside and not much eye contact. He’s such an amazing boy, and he loves playing agility!
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ParticipantOh my gosh how can it be 6 days since my last post? Gah time goes by too fast. :p
Thanks for the feedback! It all sounds good. I’m still working a lot in Max Pup 1… but he is still a puppy with an attention span of a knat. :p.He actually really really REALLY hates to be grabbed and held, even if I try to do it positively. I have been working on that in non-agility training sessions but it’s slow going.
I will do the little-bit-wet tunnels at home again in the future. And use higher-value rewards. He has a bit of a stubborn streak in him. :p
Today I dropped my mom off at the dentist and the agility barn is just 10 minutes away so I went there. Outside he thought it was hot again, and lots of grass to sniff, so he didn’t really want to come and engage with me. He would sniff and do his own independent thing even if I ran around, so I brought out the big guns… Dreamer! That got Kaz’s attention! I just did a little tunnels outside with them both, then I put Dreamer away and did a couple with Kaz by himself.
Then we moved inside because he really loves it inside and it’s a bit cooler, and there are a lot fewer distractions. We started with the little straight tunnel again with the MM and I think that went well. I can fade the MM but I was thinking just to do a little with food at first.
I put him away between these sessions and worked Dreamer so they would each get a break. I worked the barrel wraps a little and was thrilled he stayed with me and wanted to play. I’m keeping the training sessions super short.
Another short session of barrel wraps came after we just worked some middle to bring his energy level down again with food.
Then when I was going to leave, this is what I get. :p He does not want it to be over. And I am still trying to convince him that coming to me is Super Fun, but he’s not so sure. He doesn’t want to go into the crate and have the fun be over. Usually it’s my Kromis that are more stubborn!
cynthia
Participant>>Yes! Can you imagine how good our human educational system would be if we rewarded effort β especially when that effort is based on information that the student relies on from US HUMANS in order to be correct? That is why I reward effort in dogs a LOT because a) they are learning and b) they have to sort through my trashy cues LOL!!!!<<
Sooo true! I hope that one day this will happen and it’ll really transform our society. I won’t get into things lol but I’m sure I was pretty messed up as a kid in many ways because I never did things good enough. :p
Yesterday morning I kept things really short and he did great! This was before we went out and did anything else and had a Big Day.
At the barn later on he also did really well. I also kept it really short and mostly he ran around with Dreamer in the building. When I was ready to leave and let them out of the building to go to the car, Kaz just kept running back to the building door, he wanted to go back in!
This morning we also did a little work at home, and I thought hmm this is a lot of video to put into one post. LOL. And… Kaz thought it was too much training! He did great at first when I did some barrel wrap. I tried to get some turn n burn and blind crosses in but I think I need better coordination myself! I need to go back and watch the videos.
Then I tried the tunnel and wraps again and he did not want to go into the tunnel. There was a little water in the bottom and he doesn’t like stepping in water. Which doesn’t bode well for dock diving LOL. I do have a kiddy pool set up outside now and my other dogs love the water, so hopefully he’ll learn it’s fun. So we gave up on this exercise LOL I did straighten the tunnel more after I stopped the video and threw in a bunch of kibble which he went in and ate, but I figured we just needed to give up on that today. π
We did some super easy through the tunnel for the Manners Minder and he was okay with that, but also stopped pretty early. I have an agility trial this weekend so he’ll get a big break from training. I will bring the lotus ball and get him used to that, and walk around and probably do some resilience games again. π
cynthia
ParticipantI went out with him again after it cooled down and we both did better! I need to get out the short tunnel and work the tunnel games from MP1.
cynthia
ParticipantYeah he’s a good boy at 9 months old. And I think he has the potential to be speedy and quick! I have lotus balls I used for my older Farmdogs so I will get some out for him. Sounds good. Connor and Jet love those!
I he really is starting to mature so we can do more things now. Which is always fun.
I set up the smiley face game and it gave me a ton of information! ππ€£β€οΈ. Most useful really I think was that I can’t work too long. Especially when it’s hot. They are saying is in the mid eighties today. And last weekend at dock diving I swear Kaz was saying… It’s never been this hot in my whole life! Which really it hasn’t been. Since I got him last October the world has been pretty much frozen. And when we tend to go right from cold to hot all the dogs have a hard time adjusting.
So this also tells me he doesn’t understand sending to a tunnel yet. Nor wrapping a jump stantion. Which just made me laugh. Lol. When I was setting up the tunnel and the bags he was zooming through really fast on his own!
One thing you said in a live a while back when you were helping a young girl really sticks with me. You asked her how cool it would be if in school she gave something a good try and the teacher always gave her an A+. And what what we want for our dogs. They always get a A+ no matter what! I just loved that. β€οΈβ€οΈ
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ParticipantOh that’s good I’m not the only one who took a break from training. π. I can’t believe they are already 9 months old! Kaz definitely needs a lot of maturing lol. He still can’t play with toys outside of home. But treats work well for short training sessions.
I looked at the smile game and that looks fun! I will set that up in the next few days. I only had a little time this morning so I threw out the barrel in the back yard and he had a blast! I should probably move further away. π
cynthia
ParticipantGaaah. Between overbooking April, and feeling horrible for the last 3 weeks, I haven’t trained at all. So I feel behind (again) and need to pick a new starting point. I’m looking over some of the lessons to see what we can do. I should be able to get something going today and in the next week or so.
Thanks for your feedback! I can get a pool noodle but he tends to think they are great toys and will run off with them. π€£ So I may need something he can’t carry. I can recruit the husband for the same jump game again… I am so hoping the snow is done for the year! But we just never know. It can blizzard in May too.
Anyway, I’m still around, and reading up. π
cynthia
ParticipantGood to know I was doing things right in the trailer. π I was parked away from others, and I had the blinds closed so he wouldn’t see many people or dogs going by. I also usually have white noise (well I’ve been using brown noise) at night, but he was actually quiet at night when we were sleeping, it was when we were awake and active he would bark. And it wasn’t full-blown barking like a mad puppy, just some woofs. He’s super quiet in his crate at trials, which is fantastic. Well, except now when I get Dreamer out and Cas knows he’s missing some fun, he’ll bark and yap. π I don’t leave him in the trailer unsupervised yet. He’s too destructo. :). He loved the chews I gave him, which kept him occupied in the trailer.
I also did some nosework training at the trial and he did great! It’s so cool to see that he can work at trials. He’s still not able to play with toys, so I’m waiting for that to come back at his own speed.
Yeah, he doesn’t like being picked up at all. A friend recommended that maybe I have him jump on me from a chair, or even from the ground. When I get him out of his crate in the truck he jumps on me. He’s pretty high up but he’s gotten really good at jumping on my shoulder. Dreamer does that too, which I started as a puppy, to help him feel safe. Dreamer still jumps on my shoulder, which he really doesn’t need to do anymore, lol, but it’s fine. He’s not too heavy. So I definitely like recommendations about how to make picking him up more comfortable. If I just pick him up from the ground, his legs flail all over like he’s really insecure, so I’ve been trying not to do that anymore.
On to training! I thought I’d see what he’d do over a couple of jumps like in the live, and he is just silly! I don’t have jump bumps so I just used bars on the ground. He’s almost 8 months and still has no idea what to do with his feet. I’m thinking maybe I shouldn’t do this with him for a while until he gets more coordinated. I was trying to ask him to sit, but apparently, he doesn’t know what sit means in the backyard. Oops. So I had my husband hold onto him and release him to the Manners Minder. He looks pretty awkward to me!
I also tried some basic barrel wraps in the backyard because I haven’t ever done them in the backyard! We’ve had too much snow. We had rain today but it cleared up a little. I’m just excited to train in my yard!
cynthia
ParticipantAwesome! We are doing some here in Boise this weekend. He is getting a ton of stimulation. First trip since last October. He’s actually barking in the trailer if people or dogs walk by so I’m just trying to keep him calm and give him treats for his diligence. It seems to help. Any advice you have for keeping him calm and quiet is appreciated!
The first time I did this resilience game he was distracted but I forgot to hit record on my phone π. After a couple hours we did it again and I think he did wonderful! Agility is indoor and this is a little space outside away from the action.
Edit… And you can still see how he shies away from me at the end when I touch his harness. When we walk around I call him to me often and give him a treat then let him go. On leash of course. And I’m occasionally touching his collar too so he doesn’t think it’s a bad thing.
cynthia
ParticipantWe are still working on some of the resilience games… Should I post those here? Or should I just post the current class stuff here?
I haven’t started the regular work for MP2 yet. I’m on the road this weekend and didn’t really bring much. π
cynthia
ParticipantWhew! I’m so glad that I don’t have to do boring crate games! LOL Yeah, I like some basic manners in and out of the crate, but beyond that, I don’t really care. Casper is so awesome crated at a trial. He’s quiet and relaxes, chews his bone, or sleeps. Doesn’t cry at all. He reserves the crying for the mornings at home when he wants to get up and I do not. :p Or when I pull Dreamer out at training and Casper knows he’s training, then there is also lots of screaming. π
I love the resilience games for trials. I don’t think or train well at trials, but I do want to do something with Casper while we are there. So this will be perfect. Yeah looking at my video, I should have just let him look at The Thing right at the start. It looked like a wrap someone had been wearing around their wrist, so I’m sure it had some weird smells. And yup, third day, really tired puppy. I do want to bring him, though, because if I leave him home with the boring spouse he is so energetic when I get home, and I want to sleeeeeeep. π
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I agree! By allowing him to feel happy around bar setters, etc β he will have MORE focus in the ring. The dogs that are stressed or uncomfortable are the ones that tend to βvisitβ.
<<<That sounds so awesome! Yeah, I don’t want him stressed or uncomfortable. And I love that he’s happy and friendly and wants to say hi to people and friendly dogs. π
cynthia
ParticipantOooo but I’ve had it drilled into my brain that I’m supposed to really do crate games from when they are little puppies. I actually don’t do that, lol, I’ve kinda considered myself lazy. I’ve done a little work having him wait to come out of his crate at home, but not much. So if I ask him to wait at home he will. But he doesn’t really like to! So maybe it’s okay that I haven’t really been working it. So today I made sure he wasn’t going to leap out of the crate, but didn’t really ask him to do a hard wait.
Thanks for saying that his brain is still growing and things will go up and down with him for a while. I need to hear that! He’s a smart little guy and I want him to enjoy just being a puppy too. At trials he gets to say hi to lots of people and friendly dogs and I don’t mind. I don’t worry that he will cause him to visit jump setters in the ring. I think we’ll work out a good working relationship when the time comes.
Today the environment was too hard for him for the resilience game. And there was a weird thing in the corner he had to check out. And I wasn’t using as high value treats so this session told me all those things lol.
cynthia
ParticipantThanks for all the input! I’m looking forward to max Pup 2.
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They will all be in the 7-8 month range in that march time period. What happens in that time span is they make massive leaps forward in transferring the concepts and they are not yet fully in the throes of adolescence β so we might start them all with a puppy-version of the game then build it up
++++That sounds really good! In looking forward to him having more of a brain. Lol I’ve been so busy the last couple of weeks I haven’t had time to do much with him. Today at agility I was looking through the resilience games progression and thought I would see what we have. I think he did really good. Though we still need to some basics. It’s a super hard environment. I picked a low traffic area but people still walked by. And he was really interested in the bleachers. So after we did this he got to walk up and down them and check it all out. And he found an errant piece of popcorn πΏπ€£
Anyway this is what we have at trial. And it took a good five minutes to get out of the crate in the car today. He gets sooo excited. And I want him to wait before I let him out. As food motivated as he is, he still isn’t super interested in treats when I have him wait to be calm and not burst out of the crate in the car. π
cynthia
ParticipantThanks! Haha, that’s the nice thing about dog training at home, jammies! π
My bad thing about teaching Woof and Quiet is I’m super bad at putting that into a behavior chain. They woof, so I can say quiet so that I can reward for quiet. So I kinda teach my dogs to woof when I’m teaching them quiet… LOL. Bad Trainer! But I’m sure he will learn it quickly!
Yeah I’m happy that he’s not running off with the toy! This boy has the attention span of a knat. LOL. Like 5 seconds. π but it’s something to build on!
I will do some more of the arm/leg send to the target too, and the barrel, to help him understand. Not only does he have a short attention span, is just so immature too. So I’m trying to enjoy the cute puppy age. But sometimes he tries my patience! He was chewing up the rug this evening so he was put in the crate with a bully stick instead. He’s so busy!
Teaching the bit cue sounds awesome, I’ll work on that too. π And I like the idea of tossing the cookie to the opposite side for the perch work. π
The platform… I was being lazy and didn’t want to go in my car and get the bigger one I had at the trial. So I used the smaller one I had at home. I totally agree that the smaller one is more difficult. I had started him on that when he was little but quickly went to the bigger one so that he could more easily get his four feet on. So… I will get the one out of the car. Sooo hard. LOL
I did get a working spot in Max PUp 2, but now I”m not sure if he’ll still be too immature for that class. Think he’ll be okay? I figured I can puppy stuff down for him if needed.
Today at flyball practice he LOVED the circle of love and seeing All The people and getting treats and then chasing me for a toy. That pretty much burned up all his brain cells. LOL. But we tried some counter motion… and I put a harness on him for the Super Fun Place and he didn’t even seem to know it was on. But All The People are SO COOL that he couldn’t really do anything but be a puppy. Which is okay, it’s all fun! Man he LOVES that training barn!
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