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Hi Tracy,
Well, I tried the novice sequences one more time hoping for improvement. It seemed as though things that went well before went awry this time. Sigh. I’m hoping you see something that is better at least.Video 1: Seqence 1
Video 2: Sequence 2 For the life of me I cannot get that BC…I’m in his way every single time and I see I was on his line for the tunnel after the wrap too…something for me to work on is getting my visual markers better. Good thing he’s not an ankle biter!
Video 3: Sequence 3 – made sure to get the backside on 7 this time! The spin worked better last time although on the send here I know my connection wasn’t good so he did go much wider than desired.
Okay, time to move on to something else in a couple of days.
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
I have a couple questions on the feedback:
Seq 1 – 3 things
1. I have to say my least favorite opening was running in for the BC 2-3. I much preferred to stay on the inside line of the tunnel to cue either the RC or the wrap R. My tunnel has a bit of water on the openings and I think he slipped or something. I dried it up after that happened.
2. I did see him check in with me as he exited 4….however, when I thought about what “GO” means out of a tunnel and the fact I wanted a left turn at the next jump…I felt as if saying “go” would give him too much extension and then have to put the brakes on for the left turn or else he would land long and then turn left. So I didn’t say anything. If I had said his name he would have come out of the tunnel and looked at me anyway…so what is the best verbal here?
3. 6-7 jumps…I looked at 6 as a wrap because he was taking it and coming back to me…it’s not a 90 degree turn so I didn’t think using “left” was good…initially I just said “jump” and then I changed it to “tight”. In my mind his path from 5-6-7 is pretty much a U turn so that would mean “tight” to me.Sometimes when I just don’t know what the right verbal is, I opt for silent handling and hope that my handling will speak for itself…hopefully anyway.
Seq 2
1. line 4-5-6 By the time I push him to the backside which I don’t feel like I would get without pushing in on the line 4-5…then I don’t see how I would get to the gap 5-6 without some movement parallel to 5…I feel life if I moved in a diagonal line between 4 and 6, he wouldn’t stay out for the backside…does that make sense what I’m describing?
2. Do you remember early in the summer we had a course and I was trying to lead out pretty far and also laterally and move in on the line before releasing him and it did not work well. I was kind of thinking about that for the opening on this sequence. If I start out more lateral, would he take jump 2. I also feel as though I never did do the BC and get out of his way quick enough…he had to veer slightly around my feet to get to jump 4. Hence why I felt more comfortable with the RC on the flat even though it wasn’t the most efficient way. I know myself and if I were at a trial, I would not risk the BC…that’s not to say I shouldn’t practice them to feel more confident about them.Seq 3
1. I guess I tried the spin because I did the sends on seq 1. However, I didn’t realize the spin was so late….
2. RC on jump 7 – should I drive closer to the jump? Do I need to be saying something before he exits the tunnel?Do you think he is good on the 12″ jumps for all scenarios now? Is there and grid work you think might be helpful to revisit?
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
I set up the pkg 5 novice sequence. We did all 3…and smack my head, I did not read the backside on sequence 3 so we will be doing that again after he has rested. Also, I thought I had everything in the scope of the camera but beacause of a light post beside our driveway which I didn’t really want in the picture…you can’t see his landing on that one jump. SOOO, when I redid sequence 3 after moving the camera a bit (but still neglected the backside on jump 7…ugh), at least you can see what he is doing there… When I saw the custom skill set…I said “oh oh” I must have missed something! LOL Yep tunnel to backside.
NOTE: all jumps were at 12″
Video 1: Nov Seq 1
Video 2: Nov Seq 2 -I didn’t set him up right on the first try even though that was my plan for the shortest line…but it seemed better to set him more on an angle after that. Also, I used the wrong verbal on jump 4…should have used my “turn” cue for turning on the flat.
Video 3: Nov Seq 3 rd 1 before I moved the camera
Video 4: Nov Seq 3 rd 2 after I moved the camera – and now I know jump 7 was supposed to be backside…will re-do another day.
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
On the convergence…I’m not supposed to step across the plane of the 2 jumps into the gap right? And, it’s not supposed to be a push? The BC is easier for me because I actually do go thru the gap. Just trying to sort out my understanding.
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
OMG…I spent all summer working on handling and I still suck! LOL I don’t understand why it is so hard for me to cue earlier and also to cue and leave quicker. I think I need a session for someone to yell at me “cue NOW”, “run”, “send, now LEAVE”…well you get the idea. The drawbacks of training at home. Transition and decel are hard for me for some reason. I need to go back and do some of those drills.Tonight I decided to try the skill set from package 5 again. After that I felt like working tunnel exit skills as well. I clearly have trouble cueing the right turn. Also, for the first time, I tried doing a BC spin type thing on “dig” to get a better turn out of the tunnel. The first time I did this exercise back a few weeks ago, i know I was saying “dig” but still running a couple steps forward after the cue therefore the tight turn didn’t happen. I tried to be more aware of that this time. Should I be able to cue “dig” with or without a spin or does the spin make more sense and just do it that way?
Video 1: convergence vs serps, jumps at 12″, dog in sit/stay.
I still don’t think I get the convergence thing right.
Video 2: convergence vs serp dog starts out in motion
Video 3: tunnel exits revisited, yellow thing in the ground is my 6′ marker. Didn’t start out too well with the R turns although you can’t really see where he winds up because the camera wasn’t set up in a great location for that. He was exiting fairly straight with only a very slight curve right after going several strides forward. Better on the L in my opinion which is most likely MY better side. Just occurred to me that I forgot to do rear crosses for turns…oh well.
I signed up for 2 seminars with Melanie Miller in October in NJ. Do you know her? That’s it for seminars in person so far for me.
Jessica said she thinks Benni is ready for novice jumpers and T2B…I don’t know…maybe September. There is an outdoor trial in NJ I might try. I haven’t had him measured yet. I think I need to get a couple practice measurements before he turns 2 years old. I don’t want him measuring over 14″…so the more he gets used to the wicket the better. I think AKC only requires one temporary measurement though so maybe they will have a wicket at a UKI trial.
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
Thursday is our private lesson day. We did all jumps at 12″. I’m sending you the links because I wonder if the new height is causing him to make wider turns or is it me AGAIN or does it look okay to you? Videos have been edited but are still processing at this moment…hopefully when you watch they will be all done being processed.
Little bugger popped pole 12 and I didn’t catch it and Jess thought he did- and according to the video, he did! We fixed it after this.
This is a tunnel sequence…here is another circumstance where I used “left” but maybe should be “dig”? Jessica thought “dig” but I thought he needed a couple strides to set the line for the jump…but then I saw he went quite wide on the jump. Sigh. He was also VERY distracted by some sort of smell on the exit of the tunnel. Oye! But on this video you can see very clearly the turn from the jump going towards the tunnel….is my connection not good enough or do I need to move away quicker (there wasn’t much room to move between the jump and the tunnel)? Jess had me work on turning my head for the BC before he entered the tunnel which I didn’t do on the first rep.Anyway, I just wanted your take on these sequences as to what I need to do better or does he need to get more used to the increased jump height. This was the first time all jumps were set at 12″.
Also, I was thinking of re-doing the skills for this week on convergence and possibly threadle. My thought is to let him jump 12″ on the convergence since he is used to the serp work but maybe the threadle jumping should be kept at 8″ or 10″ right now. Please let me know.
Thanks.
Sandy and Benni
Thanks.Hi Tracy,
Tried the skills sets for package 5 tonight.
Video 1: serpentine vs convergence dog starting out stationary
Video 2: same as video 1 except sending dog to backside to start the exercise
Video 3: one-jump threadle with manners minder. I don’t know if he was getting hot from the humidity or bored or what but he was very distracted and not his usual motivated self on this. We’ve done this work before with a toy and also did the 2 jump threadle exercise once back in Max Pup 3. I’ll have to work on it when he’s more motivated another time.
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
Question after watching the video demo on serp vs serp convergence pushing into the gap….do you say your backside verbal when you serp and push into the gap to get the backside of the second jump on the serp? Hope this question makes sense.Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi,
Are you talking about novice sequence #1 or novice course work #1?I know most people on the group are working the master level but I am not. I have a young dog working on novice skills. I didn’t get around to doing the course work but I did post my videos on the novice sequences in package 4. Look under Sandy and Benni if you want to see what I did. I neglected to see the backside of the #2 jump on sequence 3 so don’t go by what I did there for sure! LOL
Sandy
Hi Tracy,
Today we had our private lesson with Jessica. After working on A frame to tunnel we did a couple of sequences. He did the triple at 12″ and a couple other jumps were set at 12″ and he also did the tire today for the first time (although the tire is not in view of the camera angle but he did fine since it’s only at 8″ in AKC for 12″ dogs).Sequence round 1: I left some of the instructional in so I would have it. Obviously you can scroll past that part. So I’m finding some nuances of verbals confusing….the tunnel was already curving left but the exit kind of pointed at a different jump than the one he was going to take….so I said “left”…have no idea if that is necessary for this scenario or not. The red jump if he really carried out of the tunnel was more in line of view. Anyway, we did round 1 with 2 BCs…first time I didn’t push him out to the tunnel on the ending line.
Sequence round 2: Jessica thought that a RC would help me get to the offset 180 BC better. She thought I was kind of getting in his way in round 1 with the BC as he came out of the tunnel. Good to try different things and see how it goes.
Sequence 2 was at the end of the hour and he was slowing down. This one started out with the tire which you cannot see, 12 poles as well. The jump after the poles was 12″. He is only now starting to see poles in sequence and I think he still anticipates a reward at the end of the poles. Perhaps that jump should have been only at 10″ but it wasn’t so…Also I am still cautious about him staying in the poles so my handling afterward isn’t the best…a work in progress. This was still processing the edit when I wrote this although I did leave in the feedback so not edited for brevity…scroll thru as you please 🙂
He thinks the A frame is the best thing in life! LOL
Anyway, I thought he handled the 12″ triple very well. Still adjusting to the single jumps at 12″, and got a lot of practice on “GO” with disconnection (or at least I tried to be disconnected!).
The dog walk…sigh…such a tedious obstacle for running contact training…
I think he will be ready for jumpers, Time to Beat, and FAST by fall. Training in the ring is now allowed for T2B and FAST so that might be something we do.
Thanks!
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
I’m self-diagnosing with “course map backside dyslexia”! Don’t ask me how I missed a reading a backside on a map AGAIN! (it would have eliminated the issues I had with sequence 3 for sure) Sigh. I will say that we have been practicing backsides (interesting when I actually WANTED it coming out of the tunnel, I didn’t get it at first compared to when I didn’t want it and he was sure that was it! LOL) We have NOT worked on threadles…yet…so no surprise he doesn’t understand them.Anyway, on sequence 1 for the “out” at the end….I guess I’m just trying to make sure he doesn’t curl into me which I understand if the obstacle is straight ahead, the “go” should work if given in a timely manner. I think I also questioned which was going to work for him and which was the correct verbal. So I will make a note of this. And you are right on sequence 2 ending…I didn’t know really if I would be ahead of him, if I would need an “out” or a “go”… I feel like it should have been a “go” but I didn’t do that.
Sequence 3-
If I had done a BC 5-6, would I wait for him to come out of the tunnel to see it or have it done by the time he exited….I don’t quite get how to decide on that. There are certain BC options that make me unsure and I default to where I can keep my eyes on him…even if the BC might be better.And if I had actually done the backside of 2 as per the map…I’m picturing it would be best to push to the backside on the right wing so it’s like a German?
I have to say I was a bit nervous about this assignment on the walk thru/then running the plan all on camera! Oh and YES! He does vocalize on backsides even in lessons! Maybe it’s just exciting! LOL
Wicked rain and winds swept thru, power outages all over, trees down everywhere blocking roads etc. Seems to have passed thru quickly and our power is back. Can’t complain compared to what other areas got. Hope you are safe down there!
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
Because the hurricane weather is due to descend upon us over the next few days, I set up the novice sequences and we did our “walk thru and run” homework. These videos are unedited start to finish. He was warmed up and waiting in the house prior to each run so there are a few seconds after my final run thru before he comes onto the scene…please just scroll thru that.Video 1: Novice Sequence 1
Video 2: Novice Sequence 2
Video 3: Novice Sequence 3 – I couldn’t believe how much trouble we had with the opening. He was determined to take backside of jump 3 no matter which way I handled it. He also (unbeknown to me at the time, had to poop which he promptly did after we finished the last part). Really, he could see a straight line straight to the front side of jump 3 so I don’t know…
Just FYI the angled jumps in the middle were set at 12″ and I think it was sequence 2 that I also set the last jump of the sequence at 12″ for that one.
Anyway, for better or worse, here you go…
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
Revisited the 12″ set point today. I need to set that up someplace else next time. He gets so distracted by something in the woods.Thanks.
SandyHi Tracy,
Today we worked on the set point for the double and triple at 12″ for the top bar and then tried the default backside drill.Video 1: Set Point
Video 2: Backside default – so on this exercise after watching back the video…I was tossing the toy with my outside arm because my thought was if I had it in my dog side arm it might appear as a lure…but then as I watched this, I wondered if it made it look like I was “handling” it with the outside arm. My dilemma with him is dropping a free toy that he will take off with so I wanted to use the toy on a rope. I could try it again with toy in dog-side arm if you think that’s more appropriate…or is the point just to drop the toy on the landing side no matter what hand it’s in?
In a couple of days, I will try the progressive striding grid with a 12″ oxer and 12″ triple. Trying to keep our sessions very simple and short in this ridiculous heat.
Thanks.
Sandy and BenniHi Tracy,
I am mentally challenged with fitting the size of the course for this week into my space…well I’m basically challenged with course building in general! LOL I do not have much more than maybe 50′ x 60′ max and that’s only if parts of the course don’t extend into the narrower section of my field. So doing the best I could with the set up, I could not fit the jump #15 as listed on course map 3 (it was not used on courses 1 and 2 so when I did course 3, I just sent him back to the tunnel as # 15. Hope that makes sense.Video 1: Novice Course 1
Video 2: Novice Course 2
Video 3: Novice Course 3 –
OMG kiss of death on this one! I finally figured out a better way to keep him from going off course from 6 -7 although I wasn’t crazy about his loopy lines and we never did cleanly execute 10 – 11…I don’t know if I had the jumps 6-7 too close or what but getting him to the backside for 11 was an extreme challenge. He was getting a bit jump happy there for a couple of minutes just going off on a tangent taking jumps even after I stopped. Oye. With the heat, I was trying to conserve his energy but no, he had his own agenda. So maybe sending to 6 and saying “go jump” was not the right cue (that got me the off course tunnel), so then I tried saying “Left” but he still went very wide towards the tunnel before curving back to me do then I tried the BC and saying his name…still very loopy but I knew he was not going for the tunnel at least. I feel like he does not know that when I send and hang back he’s supposed to return in my direction. Do you think I need to practice a skill set on that? I know that the angle of jump 6 along with the presence of the tunnel was a very difficult challenge for him so maybe it was mostly a young dog thing or very possibly my handling wasn’t helping him in the way he needed. Not sure. I was getting VERY frustrated and was hoping to clean it up by the last rep but nope…oh well.Jessica told me that I give my verbals too late or at least I was saying “tight” and “back” too late so I guess I need to work on that. This is why I never used verbals….I was NEVER timely so I felt like it was better to shut up and just handle.
So that’s our workout for the day.
Question on training specialty jumps…I don’t have a triple…can I just line 3 single bar jumps together to practice it and would I do it like the oxer jump as in the set point exercise or should I just let him approach it as a jump without the sit/stay/jump bump set up. He’s seen the panel jump a couple times and the broad jump just once in class. I’m thinking of entering him in novice jumpers in the fall. I need to start thinking about getting him up to his regular jump height before that which will hopefully be 12″…praying he measures 14″ or under as I don’t think I would jump him at 16″ ever.
I haven’t competed in agility in so long…do you know if AKC still has a regular double with the bars set the same or is it now ascending?
I thought maybe in August I might start introducing a jump here and there at 12″ as well as training the set point prior to that.
Thanks.
Sandy and Benni
