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We’ve been working with two toys quite a bit. Today we worked on SSC handling combos. Should we only do one direction at a time? We worked on left with a dish and a toy. We had to get really close to the wing to work the toy but she’s bringing it back to me! Progress
We have rain coming a lot of rain so we may be stuck indoors. Today we tried my nemesis shaping a dog to put their mouth on something. It has eluded me forever. Fortunately the vizslas were natural bird retrievers and the dobes pick up toys.
What kind of object should we be using? I cannot find my chuck it frisbee like you used. I didn’t dare use a ball or a real tug. This was an old tug I got years ago when people demanded dogs had to tug to do agility. Initially she tugged and put her mouth on it but I think I was clicking for nose touches. It’s not as firm as your you and hurt my hands to hold. But we had a good time regardless of what I taught her.
She’s very frustrated and I’d like to avoid that route. It takes a bit for her to get there compared to my other girls. What should my next steps be? And any suggestions for objects?
I had moved the treats from my hands because she’s starting to mug me and run behind me to find my hands. She often tries to snatch a treat as I am tossing it. But maybe it’s a good thing we work on it now. It is mostly dogs or dog sounds she barks at, but often when she doesn’t expect them (maybe?). She’s good at dog shows, trials, puppy class, and agility seminars. We played a very low sound of dogs barking while she it was her turn at the seminar and while she continued working, she boofed, and her arousal went up. She can eat anything. I was using chicken breast. I have all kinds of dehydrated raw treats I can work with, and they won’t upset her stomach. She’s also the age most of my Dobermans believe they own ALL the land and we learn that we do not, in fact, guard the street or other houses
Ah toys and Dobermans – they often aren’t a team sport according to the Dobermans. I forgot to mention that I didn’t post a video. I taught the retrieve in this room with two toys. It’s difficult room to video. With one tug she tried to get out the blocked dog door. Her body is stiffer and she’s letting me near the toy because the room is small I think. She seems to turn away from me. The game I’m playing with her is how I play when she has her ball. Her body language completely changes with two toys. She’s soft, she’s engaging with me and coming into me.
Whew I’m glad I don’t sound grumpy. Boy I am exhausted. I don’t know how you teach seminars daily. You’re on all day without a break. I absolutely love them. You need to come back to CA! Yesterday I was at all all day seminar with my retired vizsla since the older dobe came into heat. We had a blast but I chose to work on things easier for me today. Lap turn and tandem turn. We also did some resilience work in front of the house on the driveway. I can’t believe I didn’t think to do this sooner. She’s a bit “nosier” and quick to “boof” than I’d like. You can see her checking out the noises at the neighbors houses.
I also bought more toys to see if I can get Roulette to return a tug. We got lucky in one of the lessons earlier but we haven’t had success since then. She returns balls and will drop a tug for another tug. I bought two furry tugs with balls on the end to try this week.
We went to the seminar with Dot and Ginger yesterday and didn’t do a lot today. Rou did great, I’m exhausted. I do have to practice using a leash! We did the seminar off leash but we will need one in the real world. We got to use our resilience attention game and we learned a toy even in a cooler is very hard. That’s a goal for our resilience game.
We did some stay work. I did change up markers but forgot to change myself. I got a lot of vocalizing which is new for her.
I worked on the resilience game moving but I’m not sure if that was right. Should she make eye contact while I’m moving or when I stop? I ended up stopping to make it easier.
I sound grumpy but I promise I’m just tired.
Our verbals for the stay game:
Ok – release and GO.
Free – treat/toy thrown behind them
Tug – break to a toy I am holding
Get it – go to a tossed piece of food
X – come get the food.First I forgot we’ve been so focused on conformation she wasn’t going to sit! Then the platform we used to use was too small. I kept forgetting my word for throwing behind me. Human C+, dog A.
Since I had a baggie of chicken with me I took her inside after doing back up work against the Kennel behind me.
It took her a bit to figure out which game we were playing.It is an open bag of Charlie Bears on the ground. We may not be successful with chicken. Fortunately/unfortunately, Rou has had a lot of practice with this game out and about. She went through a phase where a “sudden dog appearance” startled her and her response was to BOOF and puff up. Pattern games are so helpful for keeping her focused and working far enough away when a dog turns a corner, etc., so she can stay engaged and not worry.
I am pretty good about taking training time off because I enjoy our romps as much as the dogs. Sunday Rou got a run and got to spend some time playing with Dot, learning to take breaks, go to play, etc.
Verbals
I currently use dig dig to mean left or right wrap. But I swear with this dog, I am actually going to teach left/right and transition that into our turn and burn games, etc.
Back is a backside wrap.
Spot will be her 2o2o dog walk, aframe
Bang will be 4 on teeter.
I still need to pick a forward focus word and start teaching it. I will probably use look.
Tunnel soft turn – soft name call (not taught yet)
Tunnel tight turn HEY HEY (not taught yet)
We don’t do too many threadles in AKC trials since I don’t do Premier but we atually do quite a few in my seminars. I haven’t named them as I don’t use them that often but I keep saying I want to do more UKI.Here is some strike a pose work. I can’t see on the first side but on the second side I’m clearly moving my arm towards her instead of staying stationary. Video catching me again.
Aha, yes. I’m hesitant to cross on the prop because I’m not sure she’ll commit. So yes, you’re a genius!
Here is some of our resilience game. We also played this on an empty aisle at a pet store.
She’s crazy coordinated for a Doberman and a puppy to boot.
The mat I had out is different than her prop but I can see how it was confusing when I switched to her prop (which looks similar). Thank you!! She’s not reading the rear turn with the prop. We’ve previously done some dish work with a rear turn which I left in also. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong on the prop.
On the turn and burn, she couldn’t line up on the other side with the toy in my hand. Holding the collar was genuis!!
Prop
Turn and burn – when I said genuis I was referring to you and Roulette!
Funny story about the blinds. I may have to switch to a retired dog for a seminar so we did some practice and he enjoys blinds.
We worked with the send prop today. Should I only mark a front foot touch or is back foot ok? I think I confused her a few times when she got a back foot but I waited. I then went back to parallel path but she’d stop and look at me. I think I need to make a better plan. It doesn’t happen often but when she gets confused I think I need to stop and go inside or play, etc. I didn’t do that today.
Today’s videos. We were a mess with the toy. We did some turn and burn and today the ball was lower value. She did do better turning left than right but I probably should have stopped and ask for advice. It’s hard for her if the toy is across my body. She snagged me a few times accidentally and I couldn’t keep my hands still which created more leaping. She had fun!
Stealth novel item. I had the food bag and prop before we started training today.
I was a little more flexible turning today, so we tried the blind cross sandwich again. I think we did better except for that 2nd rep. What a good girl for turning so last-minute!
We also played the novel, exciting game. I often leave treat bags out, but usually they are elevated on something and more out of our training arena. I also leave my Treat N Train out slightly outside the areas.
Yes! I love the pattern games for Rebel. We have some FEO runs this weekend and I’ll be playing this game with both girls. The facility has amazing enclosed large large potty runs so I can do some work with Rou away from home.
Today’s videos.
Blind cross sandwich. We had fun. I know we didn’t get the first one and my mechanics seemed off in the others. Turning to the right is my bad side so I’m often guessing when she’ll show up.Prop sends
Rou sends the prop sliding sometimes. I didn’t think that through. I’m not sure with the parallel path if she knew the prop was the game and it wasn’t a pattern game. She did great on the send until I accidentally was rewarding before she hit the prop. She figured it out again pretty quickly.The outings also help humans’ mental support. It’s one of my favorite ways to relax, out walking with the 4 dogs off leash, doing their thing.
Now that you mention it, I forget which side was better than the other. We’ve done some other front cross and rear cross work and she definitely has a favorite side. We will try the exercise with the toy tomorrow. I am giving my back a tug rest today.
Today’s videos:
Backing up. We have played with backing up onto a mat but we used the “stepping into them approach” holding the cookie lower to keep her head down. I didn’t realize how close I was standing next to the garage at first. No wonder it was difficult. She did great with the mat but I don’t hear any of my marker words.We played the get it game. This was new for her because I am asking for engagement. I play this game a lot with my dogs, but I’ve never asked for engagement. It was fun to see her figure it out. My treats were bouncing all over the
Yes, it was Carol. We actually live on other sides of the US but have had dobes from the same breeder.
Rou and I took the weekend off from specific training. We had an off-leash run and some socializing outings. On Sunday, I was at a seminar with my older Doberman. I giggled when she asked if I had a look/forward focus cue and if not, how useful it could be.
I am not sure if I have a lower value toy but I have a lot of leftover hunks of chicken from the seminar so we will try that shortly.
Today’s videos:
Wobble board on a new surface. This wobble board is the same diameter as the square one, but round with a lower tip. She surprised me that it didn’t phase her and I accidentally used a HIGH value tug. She seems to rotate on what is highest value tugging.Turn and Burn – ok so I was silly and tried the game first with the high value toy from the wobble board. While she was able to do it, it was less than pretty with lots of leaping at me. I went back out a bit later and used a different toy. It may have still been a little too high value but she did the game. I may use a ball next time or a hunk of bait.
Ok, I’m on the right path picturing the lead outs. We do them a lot at seminars. I’m not sure if it’s still called a lead out push. A look command definitely would have helped.
Our personal play is going well…so well I have a black eye. I knew better than to get my head close. I appreciate all the tips. It’s such a valuable tool to have.
I was singing your praises on FB and a friend with dobes was just at 2 of your seminars in FL. It’s unanimous that you’re wonderful!
Here is our stealth game with a novel object already placed in the area and our resilience food to toy to retrieve
