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Yeah, it was a strange new place. I was smart enough to bring my “barrel” before I read your reply. 😀 Didn’t want to have that be different too. He wasn’t able to do much there. I started with the barrel with me sitting on the ground, but he was too interested in the food in my hands and didn’t think about the barrel. So I figured I should use a chair, to keep my hands further away from him, and it’s a familiar picture. He did well with that after taking a minute to think about it. 🙂 though I did forget my bowls, so that was a different picture too, so I kinda helped him a little. So no Turn n Burn for us yet 🙂 I could try to turn n kinda short burn at home lol. My biggest room is really small, and 1/4 of it is taken up by his xpen, that has my mini Christmas tree on it so it’s out of his reach. LOL
We also just did some driving forwards. I had to use low-value kibble to reset him. When I tried cheese, he just wanted the cheese. I wanted to do some driving forward to balance out all the barrel wrapping we’ve been doing.
I think I over tired him. :p I did bring Dreamer and we worked his threadles too. I put each of them back out in the car in their crates when the other was working. Dreamer wanted to bark when Casper was working, and Casper definitely wanted to bark in the crate inside the barn when Dreamer was working. And I wanted Casper to actually rest between his training time. But I don’t think he did anyway. He did have some fun times chasing Dreamer through the full length long tunnels. 😀
Thanks! I have done the lid thing instead of the hand, so I’ll work that again. That is true, he does offer a chin on the ground, which I didn’t even think about! I’ve never trained that, the sad chin on the ground, so I kinda miss it as an option. I will work on that too.
Sounds good about the toys too. I will stay gentle and keep the toys low. And no smacking him. 😀 And keep it shorter!
That sounds great thanks! I will work it again this evening, after 24 hours have passed. We all slept pretty well last night! And yeah, I can see him stronger on his left. When I do the perch box for him to move his rear, moving to the left is WAY easier for him then to the right. (I am gonna have to get that beg on cue so I can reward it too!)
LOL he was totally trash talking wasn’t he. :D. I’ll start him on my right hand tonight too, to set him up for success. 🙂 I also can’t write with my left hand, it hurts my brain!
He is in full-blown teething mode too now, so I wonder if his tugging won’t be as strong right now. I worked the two toys again, and tried to be super gentle when playing. No hard tugging. He seemed to like the toys, but not for long, so I probably need to make this session shorter while he still wants more. He definitely noticed the sound of the car going by outside. I was smart and put Maze in the bedroom though, so there was no dog barking.
I also tried the hand touch and progressing it into a chin touch, but he touches so fast that he just darts in, touches, then darts out again. And a couple times he wanted my treat hand instead. I felt very clumsy about this session. And I didn’t try to get any back-up in that, since I was clumsy.
Thanks for letting me know I’m not behind. 🙂 I do love all the options we have to work on! I’m trying to choose the ones I think we need, and I can do without being a complete clutz. I plan on renting the barn (who Robert of the Sponges trains in lol, he’ll forever be known by that! 🙂 ). So I can work some of the blind cross and fancy moves stuff that my house is too small for. We have snow now, so can’t work outside anymore.
Maaaah I feel super behind. After an agility weekend and then a barn hunt weekend I haven’t had time to do much. We have been working a bit on the go-around-the-thing game (my technical name for it lol). And I introduced the laundry basket thing today. He’s doing great with the jump upright. He started great with the barrel (It’s the laundry basket for my trailer) at first, then seemed to think too much. And oh my, it was hard not to reward that little beg! You can’t see me but all I did was smile. 🙂 And, Maze barked again, oops. At the end he was struggling so I waited for him to figure it out then stopped with a jackpot. 🙂
Replying to your input about the two toys, heh yeah, he definitely backed off again after I touched him. So I will not do it, even though it’s hard! That’s great that I can squeak them, not sure why I think that’s cheating lol. He loves the squeaks. I will play that some more this week.
I also worked the cone game with a jump upright, and he had no problems with that at all. And I put the bowls down first, then the upright. 😀 I did leave the upright out for about 10 minutes just standing in the room. He hasn’t really seen it before, so he sniffed it for a while and then tried to chew on it so I thought we were good. LOL
I also worked the toys on either side of me. I got new toys, the same, the no-stuffing ones. He really likes them! And I was so tempted to touch him. I did at the end, a little, and he dropped the toy, so I shouldn’t have. :p. But he really had fun with this! Oh, and I didn’t even hear Maze bark until I watched the video. Oops! I should have put him away.
And, there is so much to do I feel totally behind! Do you have any of the exercises you recommend for us, that maybe I should focus on more?
Thanks! I love the idea of the hand touch, turning into a chin rest. Casper also hates when I try to look at his teeth, which he’s going to have to learn to be okay with for the show ring. Plus, we all need to look at our dog’s teeth. So I’ve been trying to build a chin rest for that, too.
It did take me a bit to figure out the mechanics but I think I got it working okay. Hand touch, Yes for that, drop cookie for reward between my legs, let him back up, and Yes that too. How did we do?
I love training back-up! This was Casper’s first session ever. And I thought since he’s little, squatting down would work well so he can get the treat between my legs and then naturally back up. He will still scoot backward if anyone tries to reach for him when that person doesn’t have treats, and I would love to click for that, but not having treats in my hand makes it hard to reward. And when I have treats now he knows something good will happen closer to me so he stays pretty close. And… I’m eliciting the behavior by putting the treats between my legs. 😀
That yellow board is what I have my older dogs back up onto, but Casper is not that advanced yet. 🙂
Well, now I feel bad that he doesn’t like the hard play, being touched, etc. Dreamer thinks that’s the greatest thing and it gets him even more growly. 😀 I will be better with Casper and not touch him when we play.
And with the behaviors, I don’t really elicit them. I just wait for him to offer. Like sometimes he’ll do a bow when we are training, all on his own, and I will click that and then work that behavior. But I don’t do anything to encourage it… I don’t lure him into it or anything. Same with the beg. Sometimes he will just pop into a beg, and so if I want to work that, I click and treat that. But when we begin a training session sometimes I just kinda let him decide what he wants to offer first, and then we go from there.
To train my other dogs to bow, I used the board they back onto, and then they kept their rear feet on that, and I lured their front end down. But Casper just goes into a play bow all on his own.
Does that make sense?
I was at a trial all weekend so didn’t have time to train, I will get back to it!
Sounds good! I will slowly increase the challenge of the cone game as we go forward. :). And that’s good using the squeaker wasn’t cheating lol. I’ll check out the Any Toy Any Time game as well.
This morning I worked the Goat Tricks Part 1. I was reading up on it last night, and I want to see how this will transform into a stay behavior. Casper is way too busy and wiggly to get any kind of stay duration. Sitting nicely pictures… I have to click my camera really fast! And I love to take pictures so he needs a stay. 🙂 This video is a little too long, but it’s mostly playing, I probably could have cut most of it out. We did this about 30 minutes after he ate breakfast, and the food I used was boring kibble.
I just used a board I found in the basement, but I do have a soft tiles platform that I use for stays and things. Can I use that instead? Or does it need to be something novel?
I have another kinda off-topic question. I shape a lot of behaviors with my dogs, and I wait for them to offer things. While doing things with Casper, I usually let him offer a behavior and then click/treat. For example, he’s been offering a little beg and a little bow. But I’ve been thinking, should I start naming these things? I wonder if all my dogs don’t have really good verbals because I usually wait until the behavior is pretty solid before I put the verbal cue in. But… my dogs usually don’t have good solid verbal cues for tricks and will keep throwing themselves around to find out what I want. I would rather have the “only one cue, always on cue” philosophy, but I’m not good at getting that. :p. I just keep thinking about the idea of not giving a behavior a verbal cue until the dog really understands the behavior. But with my dogs, they seem to struggle to put the verbal with the behavior even after I start to say it.
Thanks! He’s already mastered me in the chair and him going around the cone. 🙂 I don’t think I was too smooth setting up again, though, I put the cone down before the bowls. Oops. 😀 I do totally understand wanting to reward that initial interaction, like when putting down a mat and they try to jump on it before you even lay it down. I’ll do better next time. He had no problems going around the cone with my hands in my lap.
I also tried a toy in each hand, and he didn’t seem to really want to leave the one he was on, for the other that wiggled. I did cheat and squeaked the toy to make it more appealing. These are brand-new (albeit cheap) toys and, usually, new ones are pretty appealing. They are not identical but usually equal in value to him. I think I did tug too hard at about 33 seconds and yanked the toy out of his teeth. I don’t know if he stopped liking that side because he didn’t like that.
I also tried some of the blind cross exercise by tossing a treat, then having him chase me with a nice long toy I dragged. But he did not really want the toy, he kept looking for the treats. This was right before dinner so maybe he was hungry? I’m not sure, because he’s always hungry. Oh… I bet it was because the treats were higher value. I probably should have used kibble. 🙂 I can show you that video too if you like. I can have my husband hold him instead of tossing the treat. But we’d still need to use treats to get ahold of him. :p Still working on that!
Those sound great! I used a chair this time, to see how he would do, and put the cone right next to me again. It definitely looked different to him! And that makes sense, that it’s a gradual progression to me standing up. And we had no barking or whining dogs this time. 🙂
Should I try the back-and-forth with toys? Do I need identical toys? I am curious to how he would do with that. Sometimes he seems like he doesn’t want to give up the toy he has, even if it’s not moving, for the toy that’s moving.
I also worked the collection and turn game a little bit in the back yard again, trying to remember to keep my hand with the treat right next to my leg. I think he’s right-handed. I’ve been doing a perch box with him too, where he puts his front feet on and moves his rear around, and he sees better going to the right than the left. So I think his turns are tighter to the right than the left when I do the decel and turn game too.
Yup, all sounds good! I will work those some more outside and do better :D.
He is getting a little better about me reaching for him and picking him up. I have been scooting backward with a treat and he comes to me and will put his legs on me. So it’s becoming more of a good thing.
For the wing wrap game, I saw that and my hand shot in the air and I said Pick Me Pick Me! 😀 I’ve been working this on a cone for a while now, and he’s good! I pushed the cone out a little too far in this video but he worked it out. 🙂 Should I start with a wing and have it closer to me since that will change the picture?
I was kinda a bad trainer, you can hear Connor whining in the background… he wanted to play. But Casper didn’t seem bothered by it.
Thanks! I like the idea of the foot target to my leg, I will work on that. I have been backing up a little and having him come to me, which he is getting better with. And I always have treats when I pick him up, and he’s happy about that!
I will work on the send game without the clicker next time. It’s so cold outside, 34f during the day, but I did manage to go out and not quite freeze today! The first video is the collection game, I think he did pretty well. His rear did swing out a little bit.
Edit to add, yeah Casper was born July 30, so I think he’s really close in age with your Ramen.
I also worked the driving ahead but that was a bust LOL. In my small front room, I can usually play with him, and grab him in fun, and he’s okay with it, then throw the tow and he goes after it. However, the same strategy didn’t work outside. :p. He thought it was all great fun though! I will need to adjust that game. :D.
