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OMG your description cracked me up!!!! I totally feel the whole “walking up and down the small space without the dog” thing LOL!!!!!! But, it worked perfectly for you. He nailed it! Yay! The only question he had was when you stopped moving on one rep but the rest were great! You can see how letting him see the line to the wing and some connection allowed him to slide around the backside. Yay! And, another positive benefit: he was turning his head To lead into the turns, so he was nice and bendy around the wing! Super yay!
The next steps will involve more distance and so on, but you can put that off til there is less white stuff everywhere.Great job here!!!
TracyI like the word “scenarios”, it describes it really perfectly.
Yes, Jordan does use the mat. And she has her own variations – she’s a really talented dog trainer and handler 🙂Hi! He was adorable and brilliant here! The chewing: adorable! LOL! Because he actually chews… to get the speed and the rhythm going, you should drop one tiny kibble in the bowl and then when you are in the ‘warm up’ where you immediately drop the next kibble – wait til he has finished chewing or on the last chomp then drop the next kibble in the next bowl. You were not wrong to drop the kibble when you did here, but he liked to chew it 3 or 4 times so it was taking him a bit longer LOL!!
When you get into the ‘offer going around the cone’ part of the session which he was doing in the 2nd half of the video here, you don’t need to wait for him to finish chewing because the next cookie comes after he goes around the cone. You don’t need to wait til he gets all the way to the bowl before you put the cookie in it, you can plop that cookie in as soon as he decides to go around the cone. He was doing a GREAT with that so I think he will keep getting even quicker with it! As soon as his belly is back to 100%, go to something soft and tiny to really get the speed going (so he doesn’t need to chew LOL!!)Great job!!
TracyHi!
>>Jordan wanted him to do more work with an elevated target and a larger one since when we swithced to using Spiderball to amp him up more and get him out of a trot, he started focusing on me too much and not sending out to the target. So here’s his banana line with the Cato board. So he’s experimenting with just launching right over the entire thing even when I dialed back my excitement and motion.
Adding the favorite toy definitely changes internal state of arousal! You can have the favorite toy there and visible… but change up the reinforcement so the ball if visible but he gets a treat then a ball toss. So it is arousing but not *that* arousing :)) And also he probably just needs a couple more sessions of you walking slowly. When you tried to walk more quickly, he would leap – but when you were nice and slow, he was really good (I don’t think Jordan has us moving yet LOL!). So stay slow and mix in treat-then-ball and see how he does.
>>Should I be going back the other way if that happens or circling around for another rep in the same direction? Or does that matter?>>>>
I watched it to see if there was a pattern – was he leaping only one direction and fine the other? But it seemed like he was great on both sides and would sometimes leap on both sides. It looked more related to the stimulation of the ball and how fast you are moving. You can add more motion with treats and do less motion with the ball, then the 2 will merge together quite nicely in a short while 🙂
Great job!
TracyYay! Glad it all makes sense! The glories of being able to put videos on a big screen in slow motion is really helpful for figuring out what these youngsters need LOL!!
And I totally appreciate the fine line between “omg I must stay connected” and “omg the freight train is coming I need to HUSTLE” LOL!!!!! It gets easier as the young dogs develop more understanding but it is definitely a tightrope act at this stage 🙂
Tracy
Hi! This went really well, lots of really nice hits with all 4 feet! Yeah!!!! And she was good going to the MM and coming back to you, in terms of hits.
One thing that will help a little is to use a distinct send and a ready set touch cue of some sort: when you said “ready” she did MUCH better than the reps where you left it up to her. But overall – really good! You can take this to as many different places as possible!
>>Then she maybe got tired of the game. It went on too long?>>
I don’t think it went on too long… it was only a little over 2 minutes. What I think happened was that the MM is more exciting than the tugging and she just wanted to be sent to the MM 🙂 That is pretty normal LOL! Most dogs have that happen. One way to get her over that is that you can have the MM just sitting out there when you are not using it, so it is visible but not used – just to get her tugging when it is present. And then sometimes use it. And when you are using it with tugging too, you can do a couple of MM reps and then some with the tug, then switch to food from you instead of the tug before she decides she doesn’t want to tug with the MM there 🙂
Great job!!!
TracyHi! This is going well! At this stage, she will want to look at you, no worries (there is nothing else to look at) – you did a good job having the cookies ready and getting them tossed out. For the next session, try to delay the click until you see foot #4 hit the mat (I literally count 1-2-3-4 to myself LOL!) to reward all 4 feet on the mat. If she doesn’t get all 4 on – praise but just toss a treat to reset and send her. When she gets all 4 feet on: throw a party! Jackpot!
You can also use tugging as a reward on this, not just treats: click then tug tug tug 🙂Good job!
TracyGood morning!
>> Those MM are kinda slow……sometimes. Maybe I need smaller treats.
I think the MM is a faulty device in that it is slow sometimes and it jams sometimes… but the dogs love it so thy are happy to wait patiently. It saves me from having to buy the super expensive Pet Tutor LOL!
>> Hmm….maybe I would even see what else is out the for training techniques. I did Dawn Weaver with Jedi. On-line classes. I have all my info from that. I just figured I would do it again.
I am sure it is a good method, and I am sure Dawn has evolved it 🙂 Katarina Poplidnik is good but very long demo/explanation videos so it is hard to wade through. Jordan Biggs is GREAT – she is the one I go to with my dogs 🙂
>>She doesn’t do on-lone classes anymore.
Ugh that is a bummer!
>>And people don’t realize once you have the Running DW down. All the turns and the straight ones and the tight turns and verbals, one of the hardest thing is when you get on course and you never know what the scenario is going to be. It’s NOT always black and wht. Left-right-go on.
I completely agree! The RDW and all the exits… so challenging for us humans to train and handle!
T
Hi! I should not affect his overall speed for the RDW – partially because the value of the MM will continue to grow, and partially because we also do incorporate lots of toys into the RDW training 🙂 You are correct that we won’t want a ton of speed right off the back, but it definitely won’t hold him back 🙂
Hi!
Here is CB’s first back and forth. I didn’t have enough room for the toy, he did well but I think I need to give him more room to not hit me on the way back hahaWe moved into the back and forth game for the first time to tonight:
Hmmm, for some reason it didn’t publish as scheduled. You should be able to see it now, let me know if it is still hiding!
Tracy
Hi!
>.And AU thinks I’m on east coast time. It’s really only 11:40PM here! So clearly I’m not a totally crazy Sheltie lady to be posting videos at this hour!>>
Ha! Yes, I think it is set to Eastern time LOL! It make Jordan look like she is watching our RDW videos at 3am but it is probably “only” midnight for her hahaha!
Really nice job on these games! Separating the reps into the skills:
On the threadle wraps on the wings, you asked:
>Should I be closer to the wing on the threadle 360s?>I think he was reading a tiny bit of side-to-side motion as the cue to come in (not just the upper body or verbal). At :08, you had a totally straight path – he did not come in. Compare that to :23, :37, 1:01 were you had one step (tiny step, more of a weight shift) to the side away from the wing to bring him in then back towards it to help commit him. So he got it! And He also got it at 1:25 when the weight shift was barely noticeable. So for now… do the weight shift, it is VERY helpful for him and it will not have any negative fallout on anything else. Then you can stay close to the wing and get the commitment and turn. Eventually you will probably not need it, you can see it is being faded out already at 1:25.
>>I found it interesting that he came out of the tunnel from the tunnel threadles in a whole new gear.
OMG yes, I think the scientific term for that is “ass on fire” LOL!! I love it!
Nice handling on the tunnel threadles to be ULTRA patient and not help him get into the tunnel and not do anything with feet or arm til he turns his head to the tunnel. The only suggestion there is that you can run more directly towards the tunnel entry you want, that might draw a clearer line for him.
>> I think it’s because I often toss a toy right after a tunnel threadle which probably means I need to mix up where I reward more and toss the toy after a fast start or something.>>
Possibly! Plus he loves the WOOOOO! verbal you use, that jazzes him right up. He got jazzed up again when you did it at 1:27 and 1:36.
His commitment on the race track elements throughout looked great, as usual 🙂 Nice job with your connection on those too!
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! These were really nice!! I think the slightly flatter angles were more challenging but not too challenging. He seemed to not have any questions and we nicely balanced on these. So, on the next revisit, the angles can be flattened a bit more 🙂 And I think you can also add more running (from you LOL!) that adds more challenge to and he likes the grids when you run 🙂
Great job!
TracyHi!
I will be doing some intermittent seminars in March and April – partially to help us get out of winter (and maybe have some covid issues improve) and partially to let these pups grow up a little more). Then once we get into late April and May, when the younger dogs in this group are over a year, then get into the handling again 🙂 Let me know if that makes sense!
T
