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Happy Halloween! 🎃👻This is going well! He definitely understood to keep wrapping so you didn’t need to help him a lot with your hand. You can stay even closer to the upright so he can be even tighter.
The tandems also looked really strong! You can give him a cookie for lining up at your side so he doesn’t start without you LOL!!!>I will definitely send you a video of Spirit when he decides to nip and go over the top.>
Yes please! Usually that behavior is rooted in frustration, so video will help up figure out why he is having a Big Mad about something.
>Also I really noticed with him more then any of my other dogs that I have trained is that he needs to try it one day and then the next he has it. Yes I know there is a word for this and you have spoke about it so many times but the mind is blank.>
Yes! Latent learning! It is crazy, right?!?!! Learning is consolidated in the brain during sleep, so that is why we see the understanding ‘appear’ like that. Really fascinating!!
Great job here!
TracyHi! He is getting the idea here very nicely!
He did better once the toy was in your armpit not your hand, and sometimes a little lure can jump start the behavior.He was trying to offer a left turn (these were all right turns) – is it because he is a lefty today, or the visual of the white bump was drawing him that direction? So for the next session, start him on your right and see if the left turns are easier (or not :))
Great job!
Tracy
Hi!
He did well going through the box – the only question was finding the rewards 🙂 Yes, big white pieces of cheese will help! But also, I think what might have been causing him to miss where the treat landed was you were saying “yes” (s he looked at you) then “get it” so he looked forward but missed where the cookie went. Try to just say ‘get it’ so he keeps looking forward.You can also use a MM for one side and a tossed cookie for the other side.
>(also some SSC – there was a little bowl of treats next to the camera, which i showed him before we started).>
Wow! Good for him!!!!!
Nice work!
Tracy
Hi!
The TW foundations went well! The full 360s and the u-turns both looked good – I think he liked having more action when you tossed the treat behind for the u-turns, so you can toss it ahead for the 360s. And you can add the next step with your motion now too!
>I had previously tried to show him to pivot by stepping towards him. He does not appreciate that.>
Some dogs are fine with it, some dogs HATE the body pressure – ewww! He seems to like solving puzzles, so I can see why he preferred this method!
He was offering some good hind end movement! To get even more, we can tweak the reward placement: When he stops at your side or a little short of center, you can feed him either directly straight in front of you to see if that helps him rotate all the way to center, or you can feed him with an exaggerated head turn towards his shoulder so his bum continues to move around the perch in the direction you want. Then you can toss a treat to the next side and do the next rep. He might not need this adjustment because he might sleep on it and have it perfect for the next session 🙂
Great job here!
Tracy
The head turn game went well! You nailed it on the first rep then were a bit too quick to click on the next few – you were clicking when he got to your hand bt before he turned away. That is why he was a little confused 🙂
The other side (starting on your right) went better because you were slowing your mechanics down – but still clicking a little early on a couple of them.That is why he would look at you instead of turn away (click was happening too soon). So delay the click a bit to be sure he is turning away. I think the best example of that good timing was at :28.
Looking at the threadle slice video:
>Food tossing is a fine art, I am convinced! >
Ha! Yes, this is true!
He did well here coming in from slightly harder angles! I am happy with how well he found the threadle hand! The MM and the jump setup are a big draw but he was really good about coming to your hand. If you are feeling brave – replace the MM with the toy on the ground as the reward 🙂 That will be challenging!!
Great job! Have fun at the trial!
Tracy
Hi!
>Threadle wrap foundation was rough the first session- trying to get her to turn the correct way and/or not jump. our 2nd session– on a different day, was perfect. Same with remote reinforcement work.>
So cool to hear this! It might be latent learning at work!
Threadle slice – 2 ideas for you!
You can use a reward target of some kind (MM, food bowl) so she can come in to the hand target then send herself back out without you needing to move.
About getting her to threadle and not serp:
It was hard to see from this camera angle but I think your position was a little too much between the uprights (too serpy) and not enough outside the wing of the jump. She was going to where most of you was visible – the serp! So for the next session, line yourself up so your belly button is in line with the outer edge of the wing – that way at least half (or more!) of you will be visible outside the line of the wing and in threadle position. That should help her see the threadle.Remote reinforcement went great – she was SO FUNNY with her feet on the chair and supervising the cookies being placed for her LOL! Then even funnier STANDING on it LOL!!!
I think she did a great job of ignoring the food. She doesn’t have to sit to start the game – you can just put the food down on the chair and walk away. If you think she might steal what food then you can have it in a covered bowl or something so she can’t grab it.Since she did so well with the beginning steps, you can repeat them but use a toy instead of cookies. And, if that goes well, you can ask for some tricks or other behaviors before saying your ‘let’s go’ marker.
Great job here!!
Tracy
Hi!
The u-turns (reward thrown back behind you) looked really strong with you standing till and also with you moving! I thought you did well with those even if they felt weird. It looks like it was harder on your left side (his left turns) but he did really well.
He also did great with the full circles – try to keep your hand lower and move it slowly (and slow your motion down too) so he can read the full circle, especially on your left side. But overall, I think it was a really great session AND he didn’t eat your hands off LOL!!
Nice work!
TracyHi!
I think jackpot is a great word for the remote reinforcement work! She did really well here and is definitely ready for more challenge. You can ask for a trick or a sit or a couple of different behaviors before saying the jackpot word 🙂 You can also use a toy for this, as it might change the arousal level which is a good thing 🙂
She also did well with the perch work – I see what you mean by her being stronger on your left side but she also did well on your right side!
To advance the skill and get more hind end use, you can put the perch in front of you. That will answer the question of:
Is her hind end movement incidental to staying in heel position, or is she really using her hind end independently? By having it in front of you, she will use more hind end more and her front end will be pretty stationary the whole time. Plus, you can add a pole on the ground for her to step over.
The only issue you might find is that she might only want to go to your left side if the perch is in front of you, so you can help her with a hand cue or foot cue (stepping towards her the tiniest bit) to indicate when you want her to go to your right side.Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
I didn’t know Jarlsburg was lactose-free! Good to know!!
I agree, this session went well! She was mostly perfect when heading to your left hand. When heading to your right hand, she had more trouble possibly because it was her harder ride combined with the food bowl being in play, so she was seeing you through the uprights more (after having looked at the food bowl) and not in the threadle position as much.
For that side, you can keep her coming in on a slice and not position 2 for now so she is more successful. Try to stick a 2-failure rule: if you get 2 failures, make something easier. In this case, the angle of the start would be the thing to tweak if you get 2 total failures.
I think the different verbals will also help: her name can be used for the serp, but we can add your threadle slice verbal to help her differentiate when it is the threadle not the serp. Add it on the easier side and easier angle, where you are reasonably sire she will get it right.
You can also move the food bowl in closer to the bump, so she can go directly to it more easily without you having to move as much. I think maybe a foot past the bump will be perfect!
>I was using the MM and she was much too interested in it. My hand target wasn’t even a thought in her poodle brain.>
The MM is LIFE!!! You can separate that skill from the game here: just ask her to do hand touches with the MM in the vicinity. If she touches your hand, you trigger the MM. That can help her understand how to get you to trigger the MM (by doing a ‘thing’ you are asking her to do :))
Nice work here!
Tracy
Good morning!
She is off to a strong start with the rocking horses! And there was some distraction in the environment – what was that beeping? I am sure that her brain was devoting some attention to that.
>I discovered she can turn much better to the right than the left.>
Yes, I totally see what you mean! The turns to her right (off your left) are pretty easy for her!! At the beginning, she really wanted to turn right on the left turn wing too 🙂 She had some creative ways of offering it LOL!
> Not sure if it’s from obedience where she’s more comfy on my left,>
This is a possibility – be sure you do all obedience exercises on both your left AND right side (I know, I am a crazy person haha) so she is balanced with that.
>if it’s just her stronger turn direction >
It might jut be a turn preference – most dogs have a turn preference at this stage. You worked it out really well – clear, slow mechanics produced a bunch of lovely left turns by the end!
>Going forward should I do more reps on her weaker side or keep it even?
>Keep it roughly even. When doing 2 in a row, start with the harder side then after the FC send to the easier side. That will make for easier mechanics for her and get more success on the harder side. And keep the mechanics slow and clear on the left turn side.
Rotated sends: I agree, these went well! She committed with you forward, sideways and backwards! AND you got a bunch of left turns! They were harder so you can be closer to the wing on those and hold your position longer. When you stayed in position until she was about halfway around, she got it. But if you twitched an moved a little too soon (as she was arriving at the cone), she came back towards you.
The left turns will catch up pretty quickly so keep showing them to her and she will sort out the mechanics.
The strike a pose concept transfer went great! And she turned smoothly in both direction 🙂 Only one tweak in mechanics: your feet should point towards the reward hand (where you would be going next) and not to the serp hand 🙂
Since she did really well here, you can add in using a toy as the reward – first in your hand like you did with the treats here, or on the ground so she comes into your hand then out to the toy. You can also use an empty food bowl on the ground under the reward hand then plop a cookie into it. The goal would be that she comes in then turns herself back out. You might see her side-swiping the target hand at this stage and that is perfectly fine because it means she understands the in-then-out.
Great job!!
TracyGood morning!
>By self control fold in game are you referring to the remote reinforcement game? Which game do you mean? There are tons of games.>
It is the one involving forward focus and wrapping a cone while the toy or bowl gets further around it until she has to pass the toy/bowl in order to get to the cone. I know she has done the first parts really well so it would be good to keep advancing this game:
>I tried toy remote reinforcement with the new high value toy. She struggled and stole it off the table. Later, she tried to jump on the table and fell over backwards hitting her head. Stunned her. So, I had to move toy toy to the fridge top. This is HARD for her.>
The good news is that the new toy was purchased to be high value and easy to hold onto – mission accomplished! It looks like it has fur on it and that takes it to a whole new level. And that probably made it too hard for this game at this stage (novelty plus fur). So an easier less interesting toy will work better.
Also, if the toy is very high value, you can split the behavior a bit by giving her cookies for walking away from it. The remote reinforcement game might not have enough value in it yet for her to understand why it is good to leave a treasure behind. Putting it on top the fridge helped but I think using a little bit of food to help build value for leaving toys is a good way to split the behavior at this early stage.
She was able to sit at the end, so she is definitely making progress!
>The jumping up is becoming a problem. Today she leapt into the chair in the kitchen. She’s going to hurt herself.>
She is persistent! Puppies are really active at this point – I often remove chairs if they might get up on them even if I am right there, and I also get a zillion chews that I rotate through (so there is novelty plus an outlet for some of the activity level). Plus lots of getting the pups put running around, leash walks, etc. to burn off some of the steam so they are less ‘busy’ at home.
>This clip is long as she didn’t want to release the toy.>
The toy was super high value, so be sure you mix in rewards for releasing it – it can be cookies, or giving the toy back. If the toy goes up on a table or something after she releases it, she is less likely to release and more likely to hold onto it.
Nice work here!
Tracy
Dude! This was a great session!
I love how you emphasized all the reinfrocement for the stay (and hitting him in the head with the toy on rep 1 was just hilarious 😂)
All the value in the stay made getting the serp very easy because you were in position and giving clear info, all before the release. Super!!! He was wildly successful. I think he had one question on a sit (you were a bit disconnected on the new side stepping over the bump) but you fixed all that immediately. Yay!For the next time you play with the serps, you can change his stay position to be in that center-of-the-bar position, then also to the harder angle of having to come in on a wrap approach.
Based on how well he did here, you can also add the threadle concept transfer that we added on Tuesday. It will be easy for him, I believe!
Great job!
Tracy
Hi!
>I’m also confident that this baby grew while I was at work today.>
They grow like crazy at this age!
>I’m pretty sure my mechanics went out the window, I’ll watch the toy part of your video again.>
Using the long toy does require 3 arms but I think you did well and he was confidently blasting through the tunnel with no questions! He had a couple of different angles of approach too, which was great. There was a moment or two where he was a little sniffy but I think that was a bit of looking for a treat that might have fallen, and not any concern about the tunnel.
For the next tunnel session, you can add in walking back and forth – rewarding with the toy when he offers going through the tunnel.
Great job!!
Tracy
Good morning!
>Not our best training session. We usually train before they run but we had to work around the mowers so she was a bit tired.>
I thought she did well here! The backside game didn’t have a lot of high energy because it was all cookies, which will produce a calmer session. Bringing the toy into the game will make it snappier 🙂
>Do you do most of you SSC with recalls to the toy? I want to do more of that.>
Yes! I do almost all of my recalls with toys if there is enough room, and try to get toys involved somehow in every game even if it is just tugging beforehand like you did with the head turn game.
Looking at the parallel path to the backside:
She did well finding the parallel path the backside! You can be adding your backside slice verbal to this (so you don’t say ‘go’ which is a front side cue) as well as being progressively a little further across the bar as you are moving up the line. And you can use a toy with this game – yo can throw a start cookie but then the reward for the backside can be a toy 🙂
>I thought she had great commitment to the backside but I’m not rewarding in the right place? It just doesn’t look right, like she would bypass the jump and not take it.>
Yes, the reward should be dropped on the landing side of the bump, closer to the center of the bump or even near the barrel. That way she makes a turn more directly over the bump (where the bar would be) and doesn’t go past it.
>Full disclosure I still don’t know what the next exercise is. I followed what you did. Tina showed me Julee video but what am I trying to get?>
Part 1 is basically what you did here, having her stay on the backside line to approach the bump from the other side, rewarding on the landing side. The next parts involve adding the backside slice verbal as you are moving up the line, and also changing your handler position. Your were in position 1, which is the line heading to where the barrel and bump meet. The next line would be you moving parallel to her, but more to the center of the bump (position 2 :))
For the head turn game – it worked really well when you used the dog side arm to send her and then turn her away. She did really well! Nice mechanics! Just be slower on the turn hand: you started moving it too fast at 3:25 and it was too far from her nose, so she was not able to lock onto it and follow it there and at 3:28. Compare to 3:42 where your hand was low and slow, and the turn was lovely!
When you were using your left hand, it looked a little less comfy for you so the is also a spot where you can get your hand right to her nose level and let her get to your hand before turning her away.Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
The perch session went well here too – he rotated more when you were moving too, so you got more steps which is great.
He really had to think about lifting his feet over the thing on the ground here – he was a little better moving to his left at the beginning of this session LOL! Tape those things down so he is not concerned about moving them – we want him to really trust his feet here. He was alternating stepping over them with kind of hippity hopping over them which an happen when they are concerned about the footing being unpredictable.Since this is going well, don’t revisit it for a few days – it is a bit of a workout and doing it a lot can actually make them a bit sore. For the next session, tape one weave pole to the ground for him to really step over – the weave will have a higher profile and will be a good challenge.
Threadle slice – overall this went well! And the MM does like to run amok sometimes LOL!
I think changing the orientation of the jump so it is lengthwise in the space will give you both more room to get this looking nice and smooth. That way you can throw the cookie further and on a slice line, and be visible before he turns back to you. The cookie throws didn’t have a lot of room, so he was almost always facing the front of the jump when he turned back to you. He did get the threadle correctly a lot, but having more room to set up the slice to to it will really help.
>not sure if my position was correct or whether >
On the wingless jump, you can be a little more visible outside the wing – let him see at least half of your torso outside the wing (he could really only see your arm and most of you was visible between the uprights).
>He also got very spooked by the guys here doing window washing in the morning. >
Yes, that would be weird for sure! I am confident my dogs would also be concerned.
>So after trying to get him to sit by my desk and settle on his cot, I decided to just put him in the car. No need to be heaping more stress on him. Benni was already out there because he is an alarmist and he doesn’t need to teach the puppy that!>
I think this was an excellent decision! He was already tired and recovering from a stressful week, and it sounds like he was not able to settle down poor little guy! So giving him a place to rest and relax was perfect. And I agree – we don’t need any social learning from Benni about how to set off alarms 🙂
Great job here!
Tracy
