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Hi! I am glad to see she is back!
I think she liked the lazy game: easiest game EVER lol!!! And she was great when you added speed. She is very honest about taking the line you are cuing – when you physical cues support something, she takes it. If not – she follows your line. That is what happened at 1:50 hen you said “tunnel” but turned and faced the other end of the tunnel – she was spaying attention to the line of your body and she was being a good girl 🙂 Compare it to 2:19 and 2:33 (on the other side) and 3:01 on the original side where you faced the tunnel entry you wanted, and she was perfect there.
You can totally add in more of the sequences using this setup (from the line seminar). She looks ready!About the teeter – you can keep going with the game you have on the video, and also add the new games. They all work together to get a great teeter. The Mountain Climber game works on the running up the board to build more speed, which will totally help the game you have here too 🙂
Nice work!! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
On the opening line, you were a little past the line on jump 2 so he was a little wide at :03 – this was the same as with Emmie, so running a line more towards 3 will tighten them both up.
On the 5-6 tunnel entry – pulling your shoulder forward closed connection, so he just read motion to the off course tunnel. Arm back/more connection might help him – or he might need a ‘brake’ hand, which is your outside arm come up as a bit of a stop sign to get his attention and get him to turn. I suggest the brake hand because on the 2nd try, you were more connected and he still considered the off course tunnel – kept going to it til you stood still.
But also, this is good info from him: he stays out wide when you close your shoulder forward – he reads it as a cue to stay on a parallel path. That is what happened at :23 on the 9 jump – he collected on the jump before it – and then you closed your shoulder so he ran around the outside. Try locking your arm back behind you so your fingers point to his nose. You had your right arm much further back and your eyes on is a lot more at :35 and it really helped! You also decelerated there and I think you might be able to keep moving through the line with your upper body open line that.
You were pretty quick with your FC at :37, so i think you had time to do one more FC (or a tight BC) on the jump after it as well, to tighten u the turn to the tunnel and get yo in better position for the closing.
Nice job on the closing line!Great job on these! Let me know what you think!
TracyFC timing in the opening was good! To tighten her turn, be closer to and moving towards 3, and not between the uprights of 2 The line you ran in the 2nd rep was much better!
She was probably just tired with the weaves
The rest looked good! Super connected and you were really driving her. You serped the 11-12-13 line – it would be fun to try a FC 11-12 to a BC 12-13, or a BC to a BC and see how it compares to the serp. It was a hard line on 11-12 for the serp, so getting in for a cross would control that line really well and then you can keep moving through it rather than having to kind of wait for her on the serpentine. We can try all 3 options (serp, FC to BC, BC to BC) and time them!
TracyKippy course 3:
The pening line looked really good! You can decelerate into 4 and give him a left cue (it was hard to hear what you were saying) but then instead of letting your right arm come high and point forward on the back cue at :07 and :23, keep it back and look him in the eye as you cue the backside. The high arm moving forward rolls your shoulders to point to the front side of bar, and keeping your arm back and eyes on him will keep your shoulders open to the line to the backside. Your turn cue on 4 was sooner at :16 (yay!) and you waited longer at :17 to get the backside- I liked your original plan of moving away from the first rep (you were on his landing spot as he took off at :17 and then got behind for 6 and ended up pulling him off the jump) so I think arm back/more connection will allow you to move away.
When you sent him into it from a hard angle at :26, note how your arm was not involved, just your eyes – and it pointed your shoulders to the backside line perfectly! He nailed it!
On the FC at 6 at :28 – the bar down is linked to moving away from 5. If you can get away from 5, you will have time to decel and start the FC in time for him to set up the jumping. You were a little late at :28 so he bar came down.
Nice spin on the tunnel to get 9 and a nice RC on the 10 jump too! He probably just needs more experience driving to weave entries off a rear cross.You brought him to the right for the wrap at the end! It looked really good, I will come back and time it when I have my stopwatch – it was really nice and might end up being faster!! And great job with the spin on the tunnel to get the 9 tunnel and another good RC on 10! Yay for the weaves! My only suggestion on that ending line is that we can tighten up the 15-16 line at the end: you can do the FC there closer to the 16 jump so he could see the position cue: you were moving across the center of the bar of 15, so he jumped long based on your line of motion. The other option is to handle from the landing side of 16 – keep him on your left and send to 15, then either keep him on your left all the way to the end, or blind cross on landing side of 16.
Nice work!!
TracyEmmie Course 3
Good opening! Remember to give her turns cues before she enters tunnel 2 (:03) so she has a tighter turn on the exit.She had a little trouble jumping the backside slice at the #5 jump at :08. Did I ever show you the zig zag grid? It would help for the jumping on that hard slice. If you haven’t seen it, I can post the videos.
Add in a little decel on the cue to 6 so you can get the FC going sooner and she can collect sooner. When she landed from 5, you drove into the takeoff spot and that accelerated her – decel into it and start the FC rather than push into that takeoff spot.
We can also play with turning her to her right on the 6 jump – there is a little more collection there, but it sets up a great exit line with fewer turns so it might turn out to be faster than the slice exit!
The spin on the tunnel sure got her attention at :14 and she had a GREAT turn on the exit! Hmmm it didn’t work at all on the next rep – there was more acceleration on it at :22 and less dramatic hand-in-face so that might be why she didn’t get it. But you had some good drama going on the next ones and she didn’t ready it. I think the first one was closer and more surprising to her so it got her attention. More decel and getting in a little closer to the tunnel entry will help (and the reward that you were using too :))
The line from the 10 jump to the weaves requires a rear cross (I think you mentioned these were your favorite? LOL!) So you can set that on the flat a bit more: pull her into you then turn her away on the flat, kind of like a tandem turn so she is already turned before you show her 10. If she has not seen those, let me know and we can break it down. She was getting it after that but we can smooth it out with an earlier cue.
Really nice ending line!
Great job!
TracyKip course 2: This is not a hot mess express! This is good info from Kippy 🙂 And he keeps you very honest, so this is going to help with running Emmie too 🙂 (Also, running dogs back to back is REALLY hard but excellent prep for the US Open where you might have to do this 6 minutes apart.)
He was a little wide on 3 in the opening – the need to get to the tunnel exit is causing you to lose the finesse at 3 on that line – so you can send and leave with a bit of decel.
I liked when you did it all dog on left – if you send and leave to 3 (no spin) then you will easily be ahead of him on your left side to get the weave entryBeing on that side of the weaves would be easier if you had a threadle weave verbal, so you can and keep moving. When you decelerated at :06 near the jump, he was confused as to whether it was the jump or not, and the verbal would help that (and you can keep moving too). Handling from the other side will make the weave entry more obvious as well.
On the 6-7-8 line: He is keeping you honest on your timing and connection on the blinds: you had connection to him on landing of 6 at :28 and :39 then before he could really get to you right side, you looked forward so he read it as a blind – boom, quick side change to the jump. The FC got it done but I liked your original plan like you did with Emmie. You can get it by making really strong eye contact with him on your right side, see him pick up being on your right side – then do the next blind.
So, nice work and some really useful info from Kippy!!!
T
Hi! Lots of good work on all of these, and lots of good info from the dogs that will help in future runs!
Emmie Course 1Overall, really nice runs! The opening line was a bit of Goldilocks: too hot, too cold, just right 🙂 You had a disconnection on landing of 2 (turning your head forward) so she went into handler focus and came off 3 when the crossed started off early at :04
You were much better at :09, more connected – add a littl decel to it to make a little tighter.
At :24, you were connected but rotating too soon.
:30 just right except for bar down – running backwards caused it throug hthe cross as you were finishing it probably what caused it. Try a blind there because it creates motion the correct direction sooner and you won’t have any trouble getting to your new side and new connection.On the 4 tunnel to the weaves: Handling from that side of tunnel 4 makes it harder for the weave entry as it changes the dog’s exit line (away from the weaves). The BC at tunnel exit was nice at :33!!
I really liked the BC 6-7 and 7-8. I think the bar at 8 at :40 was a lot of acceleration then a sudden change of direction. She kept it up at :49 but you can decel then leave rather than really push her to the takeoff spot
One thing to remember on the backside send here and with Kippy too: you can connect to her eyes as the commitment cue on the backside send at :44, rather than look forward which turned your shoulders to the front of the bar. You used more motion at :52 to get it but your position on the first rep was good – the connection will make the difference.
A little disconnection on 12 at :55 caused the bar, possibly, it was a little hard to see there – it might have also been that you were ‘rounding the corner’ by running close to her line too much rather than leaving.
Ending looked great 🙂
Onwards to the next course!Hi!
>>I was wondering what system this is for teaching the teeter.
I use this for all systems of teeter teaching, it is good for getting them to run all the way to the end of the board.
>>Are we going to go through the whole thing in this class? Eventually teach the whole teeter?
Not in this class, that’s the next class 🙂
>> Turn her around and have her come off the side? Farther down?
Yes, you can have her turn around, go down to just past the tip, then hop off the side 🙂
Tracy
Hi!
>>Usually in class, after doing one run, Keiko does a lot of sniffing and checking things out in this room, and, though I have been ramping up the treats, I still lose her focus.
Does this happen at the end of the run (or when you’re talking to your instructor) or during the next run?
>>So I decided to try ramping it up. We did our first run with just food treats, and she did quite well. However, when the instructor asked us to repeat, she disconnected while the intructor talked, and I never really had my girl “back” for that turn. >>>
That disconnect while the instructor chats is pretty common. During that time, you can try playing the pattern game to keep her engaged, and then it should he easier to have her focused for the next turn 🙂
>>>Then we ramped it up. I got out the squirrel chuck-it, and also got out my super-duper excited voice (me babbling), and off we went. She was a bullet!
That’s awesome!!!! Yay!!!
>> The instructor wanted a third run, but it was obvious to me that Keiko had shot her wad, so we did a tunnel, chased the squirrel, and called it quits. >>>
“Shot her wad” hahaha that made me snort! You made a smart training choice – do something short and fun then be done.
>>One of the women in the class, who has known me (via agility) for over 20 years, commented that in my early runs, I did not pour on the enthusiasm and babble that I used in the later runs. So, combination of super-hyped mom and squirrel seems to work well.
Yes! That’s a great observation.
>>It’s been tough watching my girl who is so focused at home lose it in class and weekend sessions.
I think it is going to take a little bit for all of us to figure out what our pandemic puppies need… but this session sounds like a massive step forward!!
>>>I do think, too, that I need to limit how many tries she gives any particular sequence in a turn.
Yes – and you can split your turn in half. So if your turn is 5 minutes long, do 2.5 minutes, get feedback from the instructor, take a break, then come back after a couple of dogs for another turn.
>>What do you think? Continue in this vein? Other ideas?
Yes, keep on bringing the flying squirrel and the frisbees and the happy voice to new places. And add in splitting turns (or limiting turns if you can’t split them) and also the pattern games in between then see if she can come back to engagement.
When is her next class?
TracyHi!
He did a great job here!!! The sequence elements with the jumps and tunnel looked fabulous! And good boy on the second rep with staying in the weaves 🙂 YAY!! On the first rep, he had a little avoidance I think, because it is so hard – you can get closer to the weave entry to help him out. And because he is so speedy, you can cheat with a stay to get closer to the weave entry so you have a head start 🙂
>> His weaves as you will see today are not independent yet. We had a set back after his injury and I went back to 4 poles and have gradually gotten back to 12. One of my summer time goals is to get them more independent.>>
That makes sense and it was smart to start over and build back up to 12. You can also help on the big courses by leaving the manners minder out past the 12th pole, so he has a focal point and is not as attentive when you try to move away from the poles 🙂
>> Today I decided to see if I could get the poles and make it to a BC at 5. 1st time I stopped to try to inch over to the tunnel and you can see he stopped and came with me. He still needs my motion to help him in and through
Yes – on the first rep, you were more obvious and sudden in your motion and on the second rep, you helped a little more and then you slid down the line smoooooothly 🙂
>> but I was able to get to BC at 5 so progress is being made. Yea! I proud of myself for not doing it one more time. Watson got it. I barely made the BC so we stopped and partied. LOL>>
Yes – a double click/treat for you: getting it done and then stopping LOL!!! That temptation for ‘just one more’ is so hard to ignore but you were great about ending on high level success. YAY!!!!
Are you coming to the PA flyball tournament next weekend? I think we can play the pattern game/transition to trials game with Watson to help him learn to acclimate to new places!
Great job here 🙂
TracyHi! I hear you are having some crazy weather – hope all is well!
For Ruse, that FC-BC combo really looked great. She is tight but also fast. And not drifting – she is driving right in to the new line because you made a great connection on the exits. And I also think you nailed it women you did it as part of the full course at :38. WOW! And i could totally hear the verbals! Yay!
(You mentioned doing a FC-FC on the last one but it was a FC-BC, unless I need a LOT more coffee)When you ran the full course, it was almost perfect except we can tighten up the BC 2-3At :19 – you were late so she was wide – you started the blind in acceleration after she made a takeoff decision. So to tighten it, you can lead out a little more then decelerate into 2, starting the BC when she has landed from 1 – similar to the timing you used at :38, but it is a little harder because there is no momentum into it .
Yes, we can totally be looking at blinds on the flat (like double blinds and backside blinds) in the next set of courses :))
For Hero –
Good job practicing the blinds! To help him read them, I think taking out the bar will help: just use a wing for #2 so he can practice collecting without also having to think about the jumping effort. When he is super tight, add back a low bar… then gradually build it back up to full height. Your timing is good – I think if you are closer to the wing at 2 and decelerate more -he will also read the collection from the decel and that will help too!
When you ran the full course: another WOW!!!!! The FC-BC section looked FABULOUS for him too 🙂 When is nationals? Your dogs will be kicking butt! And I was proud of how well he did his weaves!!And well done to you for GREAT connection all the way through the courses with both dogs. SUPER!!!!
Great job 🙂 Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
Oh no, I am so sorry to hear about Dean’s mom. Please pass along my condolences. I am glad he was able to see her.
Min’s sequence:
First up, the baselines:
Yes, on that first rep at 4 – you were stationary as she exited the tunnel then moved straight forward and did say “yay let’s go” so she was correct to look straight.
On the 8- 9, after you decel, keeping moving out towards 9 rather than staying stationary til she takes off – she responds with more collection than she needs. And that will go for 11 too – decel, send, giddy up out of there 🙂Work session: were you saying right on the 4-5-6 line? I don’t think she needs it (a right verbal cues some collection and she can run that line in extension), so you can save the right verbal for 8-9. Because it is not quite a GO either, a general jump cue can work as a verbal there.
You can also send and leave in the pinwheel so some sets up her own turn and then you can have her chase you to 6-7. You were tending to run in with her and ‘round’ the line, which had some decel so she collected – my guess is that slows her down more than we want there.I want to time the difference between the spin at 11 and the post turn but that is something we can do on the full runs, so she is moving in and out with speed 🙂
The go line at the end looked good1
Final version
The opening section looked good! The reason she took 5 again after 8 was that after the decel, you made a sudden acceleration that was pointed into the gap, so she thought you wanted her back on that line. Compare it to 2:11 where you deceled but also turned and ran to 9, she had no questions there.On that 4-5-6 line, you were sending her more and keeping her in extension through the pinwheel, it was faster for sure!
And just be careful of verbals that do not fall into the ‘just the facts’ category: this includes praise or her name – the praise delays the next info so she waits a little, and her name cues her to look at you. For example, on the very last line you called her name when she exited the tunnel (MIN!) and she looked at you and then you said GO! So she went 🙂 But that head check costs time, so you can go directly to the GO cue.Sequence 2:
Yes, she was looking at something in the distance – dead Mouse ewwww!
This baseline went well!
She is really responsive to decel so you can decel later on the wrap at 4. Let her see you still accelerating as she exits the tunnel, then decel and leave when she is maybe halfway between the tunnel and the jump. She is turning really well on the early decel, but she is adding a lot of decel strides in response. My guess is it will end up being slower than more of a last minute decel and run away: that turn might look wider but she will have more extension and more speed, without extra yardage (maybe a couple of inches, but that will be fine LOL!)
And the send to the pinwheel with a lot of speed set up really gorgeous blinds, especially on the last run! She is also really good at reading the blinds, so I think you will find that a lot more effective and fast than the FC.>> Question on post turn vs spin – I have typically used spins in cases where I think I need to keep Min off another jump (like pulling her through 2 close jumps on a wrap). I don’t use them too much with her since she’s so small and generally turns pretty tight. My thought was that I should “save” the spins for that and use a post turn in other cases. Is that faulty logic and I should just be using whatever gets my feet pointed in the right direction faster?>>
We will do them both and time them, and use whichever is faster 🙂 Based on how she runs and what we have seen when timing other dogs, my guess is that the send & go plus verbal will end up being faster than the spins. And then you can reserve the spins for specific situations, such as needing to get more turn and a side change to keep her eyes off an off courses (because spins are FC then BC, you can hold the FC element longer as you run away before doing the BC, which works great for that situation). A send & go can get your feet pointed to the next line really quickly too, so it will really be a matter of what ends up being fastest 🙂
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Hooray for a great day in the ring! He did really well – ignored all sorts of new distractions (barking dogs were a little bit surprising to him, for example, but he didn’t lose his focus). And it was hard to see the handling from the camera angle, but it looked smooth and fast fast fast! And he was able to play in the ring and it appears that he was completely engaged (never paid attention to the judge or ring crew. SUPER!!! Even at the end when he was done and they cheered, he was still engaged. Yay! And yes, good lesson learned for the poop-in-the-ring moment where he had to wait – you can change plan in those moments to do that shorter lead out. I also beg cookies from the crowd when I run out during a delay – which really gets the dog engaged because ‘someone else’s cookies’ are always the most delicious haha!I think today’s plan is strong: change only one thing (jump height) and make the teeter decision kind of in the moment. Keep me posted! He looked great here!
Tracy
Hi!
Yeah, pinwheels are not my favorite either but they are a necessarily evil LOL!
If something goes wrong the first time, you can go right into fix mode: if the reason something went wrong is very obvious (like my blooper when I clearly did not tell the dog she was turning) then you can go right into fix mode. If it is not obvious, watch the video and see what looked like it could be adjusted – then go right into fix mode 🙂 And then yes, you can totally post of the first run and the re-do runs 🙂T
Good morning!
>>On the jump before the tunnel at 1:11…. patience (I know, I hate that word hahaha). Don’t rock back out of it, and be super connected – you looked ahead but rocked back so he looked at you. Stay in position and look at him til you see him looking at the jump – then you can run to the tunnel.
I was really trying to stay upright and not bend down (from your previous feedback for wraps) but I just moved too fast.>>Something that can help commitment is changing the placement of reinforcement: when you cue a tight turn and want to move away, toss the reward to the landing side so that the dogs get rewarded for continuing to move off of you to commit, even if you are a little early exiting or a little disconnected. The last second pulling off of the jumps can indicate that the value has shifted to your handling and away from the jumps, so we can shift it back by changing the placement of reinforcement to the landing side of the jumps as you peel away.
>>>It will also be fun to look at the difference between the wrap there, and a slice on that jump to see which is faster! We will start to obsessively time all these in Games Package 3.
I chose the wrap there because I thought he would blast past the tunnel opening with the slice and have a hard time getting back into it or get the other end. I think the timing will be really fun to do with both dogs.>>Yes! The games being published on Monday will set up situations where you can do both and we time them 🙂
T
