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Hi! She doesn’t have to revisit the mountain climber game, but I do think we can get her to do more of a weight shift at the end of the board. Overall, she seems confident particularly when you are also moving – she doesn’t yet love it when you are sending her ahead without you, but that is normal 🙂 She is a bit forward, on her shoulders, so when the board drops, she gets a little off balance. She is taking the landing of the board more on her shoulders than by balancing on her rear and core, if that makes sense? But, we work that in different games (not mountain climber) so we can isolate it differently. Has she played the bang game?
T
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I agree, plank work is going really well! Your motion didn’t bother her and she was working to line up her hind end. She was tending to line up her hind end just after getting onto the board – so on the next session, you can throw the reward further to see if she can line it up just before getting on and get on a little straighter ( this will work you up to angled entries on a full height dog walk eventually so she knows how to do it in case she ever needs to)
She did a good job turning around on the board – it is not easy! You can add a little challenge to this on the next session by raising the plank a little, if you have cinderblocks or something, so it is just a couple of inches off the ground. That way she really has to think about keeping all 4 feet on the plank!Nice work!
TracyHi! This is going well!
One thing to think about is throwing the reward more, the further away from you she is. She was sending really really well, but all of the rewards were tending to come after she finished the tunnel – so as the session on the wings and tunnel went along, she lost some of her zip out to the wings. So mixing up the placement of reward will help keep the speed balanced, especially in moments when you aren’t running like mad 🙂 I tend to reward tunnels a little and sends to wings and jumps A LOT, by throwing the rewards out to the landing side. Your connection and send mechanics looked really good!!
The sends on the jump pinwheel looked really good! She saved you a little at 1:52, you didn’t step to the middle jump on the send but rather turned away too early, just using an arm and a verbal. However, that is why we train arms and verbals, so the rest of the cue doesn’t have to be perfect. Yay!! The rest of your sends looked good. I think the bar drops were just a combination of tired and connection breaks – at 2:13, you looked forward and gave the cue as she was taking off, and she pulled the bar there. I think I will be posting some proofing games for that because we all make that little mistake, and we can teach the dogs to keep their feet up 🙂
Nice work!!
TracyHi! I think he was Mr. Perfect on this teeter game!! Love it! I think give him another session just like this and if he drives to the end like he did on the last rep here, then on the session *after* the next one, you can give him a tiny tiny bit of tip.
>>The teeter has been a struggle too since Chapter was getting over threshold once it started moving and would cause him to bark and take off running. With this exercise he seemed fine and to keep his composure and I did like his drive to the end. Progress!>>
I agree about the progress! Tell me more about the threshold issue yu saw previously – how much tip was there? Did he take off barking and running after successes or failures, or both? Either? LOL!! It is actually pretty common for herding dogs to get overstimulating by the teeter moving. Which brings me to my next question… when the wobble board was moving, how did he do? Give me all the details so we can game plan his teeter progression 🙂
>>Since this course has so many different elements- can we post video of jumps and teeter, etc. or should we stick to one at a time?
You can totally post different videos at the same time (or videos containing more than one game :))
>>I’m also going to skip the other contact games since Chapter has a good running aframe and dog walk so that’s one area that is going really well!>>
It is ain’t broke, let’s not break it LOL!!! We can focus on the teeter and also other concepts.
T
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This was very cool that she immediately started offering the wrapping, as soon as she recognized the set up. Smart!!!! She also seemed to be equally balanced going to her left and to her right – I didn’t see her having trouble one direction or the other when the upright was close to you. When it was a foot or so away from you, I think she lost her chain of thought after a minute and then was cutting in front of you – and she was only cutting in front going one direction (from your left hand to your right hand) which could mean turning left is easier for her than turning right. You were wise to bring the upright back in a little to get success going again. So when she is going from your left to your right, have the upright in a little closer so it is easier on that side.
You can also go to the bigger object now, keeping it close to get started there too.
Great job! She looks great and is a ton of fun, like always 🙂
TracyHi!
>> Ugg…I can’t sit cross legged and I can hardly kneel because I had knee replacement in the good leg a few years ago. LOL. Mechanics with my prosthesis don’t work to sit cross legged.
Ah! We can totally tweak the mechanics to make it work. Sit on something that feels comfy – I ended up sitting on one of those inflatable donut things but you and also sit on a low chair. Sitting sideways totally worked too. Feel free to work out whatever feels comfy!
She thought this was the great day of her life – so many easy cookies!! The cookies hitting the bowls almost sounded like bels ringing, very festive. You were SUPER fast getting her into the rhythm and then she was able to maintain the flow really well… until you started talking to her LOL!!!
I do think we need to add in some praise where she keeps working and doesn’t just look at you (for example, picture her hitting an amazing weave entry with you 30 feet away, you will want to praise and you’ll also want her to keep weaving :)) So when she is doing something, start by quietly adding praise: “gooooood giiiiirl…” and see how it goes – don’t be too exciting in your praise because she loves to engage with you when you are exciting 🙂Great job here!
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>>oy I never had a little dog. There will be some things to get used to.
Yes, they move differently! And also BCs move differently than non-BCs, so there is a bit of a learning curve at first but you are doing fine 🙂
>>She will be perfect!
Correct! She already is perfect!
>>Now I just need to remember to get BELOW the knee.
Yes! To keep her head straight or slightly downwards.
>>And then I could see the weight shift in these video’s too.
Yes, it was rally cool to see her doing it! She is lovely!
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I love how she *immediately* transferred this to the soft crate as the wing. She seemed to have an easier time turning to her left (going from your right hand to your left hand). Those were fast and fluid and pretty immediate! When she had to turn to her right, going from your left hand to your right hand – she totally had to think about it a little LOL!!! That is fine – my two pups both showed the same side preference in this game (left) but now it is much more balanced. She didn’t appear to need extra help on the harder so (we will give her help if at any point she asks for it) so for now, just be patient and let her think about it. I think of it as being the same as when you ask me to pick something up with my non-dominant hand. I am left handed, so it is easy to grab something with my left. But if I need to grab it with my right, it takes a moment to think about it at first then gets better with practice.
Great job here! She looks fabulous! 💕
TracyHi Glenda! You are rocking this! Great job on this video!! She is getting faster and faster on each one. Let’s talk about the perfect reps first – all were perfect except one, which is why we really focus on what went right. Note how quick her turns are getting into the recalls (my flyball friends call them “whiplash” recalls LOL!! And she was straight and tight to your running line. Your mechanics of the reward presentation were great: very clear connection and you got the toy LOW so her head stayed low. Perfect! The only oopsie here was on one rep, she turned so fast to drive to you that I think you were surprised and offered the reward with the wrong hand – that made the blind info a little later than the others but she did get to the correct side. Yay!!
Great job! And yes, the more you practice, the more these crazy mechanics will becomes second nature and then you won’t have to exaggerate them or think about them as much 🙂
Great job!
TracyLOL~ That is funny! When watching a video and something is not going as well as it could, I default to something Bob Bailey taught about a zillion years ago: when the animal’s behavior is not what you think it is, look at 3 things:
Timing
Criteria
Reinforcement (rate and placement)Your timing was good. Your criteria was a small part of it (mat not being salient enough as a hind end target). Rate of reinforcement was great! Placement of reinforcement: a-ha! It was bringing his head up so he was angling to lift his head sooner.
Let me know how he does with the intermediate option – we are adding more to this profession on Tuesday 🙂
T
Hi! This shows a really strong progression (and it helped his commitment hold up beautifully today as we added complexity! Super! And yes – on the last 2 reps, seeing him turn and actively look for the line without needing much help from you is definitely happy-making!!! I don’t mind the cookie sniffing in the 2nd rep, we aren’t going to spend a lot of time on this game and he caught on VERY quickly as to how to earn the next cookie 🙂 Yay! This is something to revisit here and there but overall, I would say it has accomplished the goal os allowing him to work through today’s crazy stuff. Yay! You can add in lazy elements to proof commitment sometimes, and I will post more, all in the name of NOT having to be perfect in handling or connection. If you wanted to revisit these before the snow comes, add more distance and the one step sends we played with today.
Great job!
tracyHi! Long time no see LOL!!! Great job this morning, it is so cool to have you in the live classes!!!
>>He would trot to the tunnel on the wing wrap and galloped in on the lead outs.>>
That is so interesting! Dogs are so funny!! Well, if he has to have a preference, I am glad he prefers lead outs because he is going to see a lot of them over the next 10 years or so 😂😁
>>From the video it sounded like you were using a verbal for the tunnel but not for the wing wraps.
Yes I was relatively quiet on the wings, partially because I wanted to be sure the pups could do it before I named it and partially because coordination on sends AND talking is hard for me LOL!
Kaladin did really well here! He totally preferred the acton of sending after the tunnel and also he was really good about propelling out there automatically. I agree, you can add more distance, he had no trouble with this. When you did the FC wrap on the single wing, I bet you can turn sooner like we were talking about this morning. On the sends, there is no fast-slow-rotate transition, so the timing of rotating is more when you see him looking at the wing but still about a foot or two from it. You can then run out of it to reward because with distance, you will be standing still near the tunnel and that might not be as fun of a reward as taking off like a wild woman.
You can totally add your wrap verbals, he is very successful and you are more coordinated than I am 😁
Great job here!!!!That makes sense, I thought he did great in the video!!! Isolating the spots where he might have been a little worried about the movement – do what I call “one hit wonders” which is add a tiny tiny bit of movement, do one single rep (just one!) and deliver a MASSIVE jackpot. For example, when Export was worried, I would do one rep and give him 6 or 7 giant chunks of hot dog…. then he got his favorite toy and that was the entire training session. The goal is to pair massively good things with the movement and then be finished before the dog can think about it 🙂 Keep me posted!
Hi! These look great! And yes, he did like having more motion but he was also fabulous about driving away on the one step send! Interestingly, he did a little better on your left out of the tunnel (he seemed to propel himself to the wing more) and when he was on your right out of the tunnel, he was looking at you more. We saw the same thing in the live seminars with the other pups – a bit of side preference out of tunnel. Good to know, because we can add more handling and training to balance it out! I don’t think it had to do with more motion, because when you were running on your right, he still wanted to look at you. So, from a handling perspective, give him more of an exaggerated connection when he is on your right, both before the tunnel and on the send. And, from the training perspective – throw the rewards out past the wing when he is on your right to help him want to propel out to it more easily.
He was setting himself up for gorgeous turns on the sends!!! Super nice!!!!!!!! It is great to see him power into the wing with speed, set up a collection, then power out. Since he did so well – add more space to the wings where he is on your left, moving them further away so the send is bigger. You can keep the wing when he is on your right in close for now, until he is as comfy on your right as he is on your left.
Great job!!!
Tracy
