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Hi there!
Good work on these!!
Sequence 1 (video 1): It was interesting to see how the timing and placement of the blind affected the jumping on those first reps! A couple of ideas for you:
The first thing that popped to mind is that because he can see the jump easily when he exits the tunnel and your motion support the line – you can do that blind cross a lot sooner. In fact it can be finished before he even exits the tunnel because you will be in the gap 3-4 and reconnected, so he will definitely take 3. If doing the blind that early might pull him off the #3 jump, then we would wait til he exited to make sure he committed to 3 – but I think he will commit to 3 in this case pretty nicely. When the bar was down, you were late doing the blind so he was adjusting the air. The last rep was a little late too, but I think he had figured it out by then 🙂Now, my only concern with you being that far ahead is that he might jump too early as sometimes happens. So when you had in stay on your right and turn to his left over 4, that was a good choice! You can also do a RC on 4 so he gets the straight line back to the tunnel, that uses one of his really strong skills. Another option I can think of there for him is to lead out less at 1, and run 3-4 on the other side – so he exits the tunnel on your left and you push him to 3 and 4, if that makes sense 🙂
The 2nd link is marked private so I can’t see it 🙁 Can you relist it?
3rd sequence (video 3):
1st rep – A couple of little details on the opening: you can line him up on a better line to 2 so he doesn’t turn when he lands from 1. You can also start your get out just before he takes off for 3 so he lands already turned. The distance on his get outs was *fabulous*!!
Watch the :11 – :14 section in slow motion. It falls into the category of “Wilder is paying close attention to all the cues” LOL:
When he landed from 5, you were connected. Your right arm was a little high and moved forward, and then you looked forward, just for a heartbeat. It looked like the beginning of a blind cross and the bar of the 6 jump was obvious…. so boom! Blind cross. Good boy 🙂You were more connected on the next pass through there so he stayed on your right side, no blind cross – also, good boy 🙂 You over-helped by putting yourself into the gap, so it was harder to get the wrap – as he landed at :27, you stepped forward before he completed the wrap so he back jumped it.
2nd full run – at :34, he had a good line up to the tunnel, just needed one more step of motion to support commitment. He knew you were leaving and wasn’t sure if he should go take the tunnel.
Very very nice 5-6-7 section!! Great connection and line! That get out looks awesome, he is doing so well with that!! And nice job getting the slice on 6 – that is the best line for sure. I bet you can play with getting further across 6 to get in for a blind on the landing side of it.Great job! Let me know what you think, especially about the options for Sequence 1 🙂
TracyHi!
Most of this is going SUPER well – there is one dog-training element that we can improve. It was the same thing that was causing the almost all of the oopsies on these 🙂Seq 1 – Super nice! Good connection throughout. As long as you are connected, you can keep moving on the last jump to the tunnel and don’t need to cue her with an arm to come in and take it (:11 & :44 were connected and you had a little extra arm swing that you probably didn’t need) By connected, I mean ‘serpentine’ shoulders like you did 1-2 and at :11 and :44, where your upper body rotates towards the jump (center of the chest points to center of the bar) while you keep running forward. Your shoulders were closed forward at :28 so she did not come in – but that also shows us that more training is needed on the backsides to create the default behavior if ‘always come in and jump the bar on a backside push’ so you don’t have to be perfect. It turns out, this training thing is what bit you on the other sequences too. Here is more:
Sequence 2: Mostly going well, but the one training question is what was causing the oopsies. I am sure there is a fancy name for this type of BC on a backside, but I just call it a backside blind LOL! A German turn has more of a wrap exit to it.
At :58 & 1:52, you had a good push cue and you were timing the blind nicely… but more training is needed so she understands to automatically come in and the the jump so you can move through it. At
1:12 & 1:33, I think you were trying to help and the push was not strong enough so she ended up on the front side.something distracted her at 1:49 – maybe someone came in the door? It was not a handling thing. And you got it at 2:11 – you were a little later on the blind but that is what she needs for now.
Sequence 3:
On the backside blinds, she did come in… because of handling not because of default understanding:
At 2:26 – you got the blind after the backside and it helped her come in – but she wasn’t coming til you did the blind. So the handling helped her come in. On the exit of that rep, at 2:30 you went in a little deep and starting saying GO before she was looking at the correct line… so she correctly did the go but didn’t take the jump 🙂
On the 2nd rep
2:44 – she came in on the backside here too, because you maintained connection on your right side til she was jumping then did the blind – so the handling brought her in over the bar. Adding the
name call helped get her on the line and then the tunnel cue was spot on for the last line. Yay!Last rep was really good in timing all the things! Nice!!! For now, your handling is what is creating the full backside (going to it AND taking the jump). So, keep isolating that skill of taking the jump as you leave on a backside. Even in the middle of a sequence, you can push her to the backside and plop the toy in as she is heading to the entry wing, as you disconnect and leave. That will really help solidify the backside understanding, so that way you don’t have as much responsibility to be perfectly connected or perfectly on time – that is too much pressure LOL! It is much easier to train the pups to take the jump 🙂
Nice work! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Sequence 1:
Good timing on your left cue and your backside! Good connection on the exit of the wrap, he looks super tight! My only suggestion is to add a “go” and a tunnel verbal on the ending line.
Loved the schnauzer visitors in the walk through LOL!The next sequence is a doozy indeed, with a lot off handling options. 🙂 Based on your walk through, I think you made good choices even if they didn’t work yet – more below:
Backside push after the tunnel on these: The extreme connection on this (moving on a parallel path and not having to use your arm or a big step to the backside wing) will make this much easier to get ahead on these lines and get commitment. Leading out less so you can move into it will help. When he sees you relatively stationary on the tunnel send, he is going to automatically want to turn to you. Plus, if you can use the extreme connection rather than the big step, you can get out of there faster (disconnect!) so make it to the blind on the exit (2:08 and 2:19). That will all help you get further across the bar.
Also, as weird as it sounds, try to disconnect sooner: as soon as you see him heading to the backside wing of 2, look ahead so you can get to the blind faster. At 2:28, you were still looking over your right shoulder as he jumped and ideally you would be looking over your left shoulder there.
The other thing to consider here turning him to his left on the wrap jump, as it might set a sweeter line to the jump before the last tunnel.
Here is the most important thing that was giving you trouble:
At 3:42 & 4:01 & 4:13 & 4:17 & 4:33 – he went to the backside but did not jump, running past it as you tried to hustle to the next line. That shows us that we can totally put more dog training in place – it is not a handling moment, that is a dog training moment! You can isolate that backside push where you send him away and then as he is heading for the wing to the backside entry, drop the toy in on the landing side as you run through the line. Do this on a low bar, as there are a lot of reps involved in getting this to be a default behavior (you can see demos in the course syllabus section).
Training the backside jump default will help in the spots where he did take the jump but it made the rest harder: when you were still between the uprights, he generally would take the jump but there were errors:
At 3:48 – so he came in but you could not get the blind
At 4:06 he jumped into the wing (ouchie!)
You did get it at the end – yay!!! But I think getting more training on the take-the-jump default on the backside as well as sending him away using the big connection but not the big step will make it smoother and easier 🙂Everything else is going really well, so it is mainly a backside training game at this point 🙂 Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
On that first sequence, I think the choice to turn her to her right on the slice line is the correct choice in terms of best line. Turning her to the inside wing is harder on her body, harder to cue and will be slower. So, let’s get a tight turn on it!
At :03 you were a bit too accelerated and facing forward, so she jumping in extension. At :13 and :19 you rotated sooner and it was better! So depending on where you are going for 4 and 5 on these drills, you have options: when going back to the tunnel #5, you can be closer to the tunnel and send to 3 (still doing the spin) and get outta there to 4. When going to the wrap on 4, you can lead out less, send to the tunnel more and layer the middle jump – so as she exits the tunnel, you are at the wing, showing it… and leaving. It all falls into the Tokaji Strategic Cue-And-Go handling system 🙂
The wrap on 4 at :14 and :22 was good – you cued and left! It was a bit of a v-set where you set the line around your legs – and I liked it!
2nd set of sequences:
The first sequence was nice! I don’t think you needed to hang out at the tunnel exit as long – she barked at you and slipped a bit at :26. When you moved through the tunnel exit at :34, she still barked but didn’t slip or slow down and still had a nice turn! She was real mad at :44 when you stayed there for too long.Good job with the cue-and-leave on the wrap at 6 at :50! Nice turn!
Sequence 2 looked good, my only suggestion is to try to send to 2 from further across the bar – you were closer to the entry wing at :57 with a high arm, so you didn’t get out of there as early as you can – at :59, you were at the tunnel entry when she was entering, when ideally you would be another step or two past it. She made the turn by turning after the exited (you can see her hind end kicking out at 1:00) but if you get past the tunnel entry by leaving 2 sooner, she can make the turn before exiting the tunnel.
Sequence 3: to best use the strategy that gets the best turns from her, I think leading out less and moving into the wrap at 2 so you can leave sooner will make it a tighter turn (rather than waiting there, she drifts wider when you wait there). You did that more on the 2nd and 3rd run, turning her to the outside and she had a nice turn there – you can move away even sooner, her commitment will support that On. the backside at 5 at 1:13, you had good position sending her in! Try not to let your arm get too high, because it causes a weight shift which makes it harder for you to get off her line (she ticked the bar because of the delayed exit). She didn’t tick the bar on that turn on the last run because our position was better and arm lower (shoulder height rather than above the shoulder), so keep reminding yourself to keep your arm from getting too high on those sends 🙂 On the next rep at 1:23, you still had the high arm but left earlier because the blind – the lower arm will get you one step further ahead getting out of there, which is always a good thing with her 🙂
The rest of it looked really good, nice turns out of the tunnel and she stayed on her lines perfectly, of course 🙂Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyNice work here! I notice a trend in the cues that help her go fast (versus where she slows down). When you move, she goes fast (that one was obvious haha) – if you are standing still for too long, she decelerates too much. So you can gauge your line to be moving into deceleration rather than getting to a wing too soon. In this case, going a little closer to the tunnel will help create that.
She also powered into more speed when your dog-side arm was a little back (when she was behind you) rather than pointing forward to an obstacle.
On the first run, for example, when you cued the first tunnel she saw the arm back and went fast. Then on the wing after the tunnel at :06 and :15, your arm was a little too far forward so she slowed down to process it.
You can also see it at :10 when she was exiting the tunnel – great connection there and she flew!
We see it also on the tunnel-to-wing line on the 2nd run: looking at :37 versos :42. At :37, your arm was forward before she exited, so she slowed down to figure out the line. At :42, your arm was back until after you made connection when she exited the tunnel: she flew to the wing.
And your last run with the wraps was fully arm-back in your connections – she was fastest yet on those lines. Very cool!
So that is a good thing to remember – arm back to make connection on new lines. The arm doesn’t need to stay back, it can move with her, but that first moment of connection when you are ahead is really helpful for her to drive on the lines.Great job! Let e know what you think!
TracyHi! This is looking really good and accomplishing the goal of NOT having to give a big step to take off! Look how far across the jump you are able to get!! It is setting you up for great serpentine exits. You can also do a “German” exit (switch sides to a blind cross as you move past the wing). And she did a really good job of committing to the jump – keep throwing that reward in nice and early to continue to reward that because that will help use reach the ultimate goal of being able to cue it and then just run through it. Yay! She was committing nicely both on the backside pushes and on your counter motion session at the end. I think the countermotion was easier for her – it looks like she had to think about committing to the bar after arriving at the backside while you kept moving, but that is fine – she got it right 🙂
A 2 next steps to play with:
– add more speed 🙂 Try jogging while giving her the cue!
– add balance to the front side. On some reps, cue a wrap on the wing then call her name then cue the front side of the jump. Alternate that with doing the backsides just like you did here.Great job!!
TracyGood morning! Her lap turns are looking really good! On the first couple of reps where she was coming in to your hand on one wing, you were really patient to let her get close to the hand before turning her away. When you added the 2nd wing before the lap turn – 2 little tweaks that will help her come right to your hand:
– try not to back up as much (or as fast :)) the backwards motion still reads as forward motion so she was looking at the wing more than at your turn hand. You can send her to the other wing from further away so you can get to the lap turn wing without having to do too many backwards steps.
– you can fully extend your hand towards her, locking your elbow, as if offering her an invisible cookie. That will draw her right into your hand 🙂 I often look down at my cookie hand with young dogs, that helps bring them in nice and fast 🙂
She was really getting the rhythm by the last couple of reps, and your cookie throws were great LOL! She was turning and then BOOM there was a cookie LOL!
The ‘regular’ wing wraps also look really strong – there was one moment where you might have blocked the wing a little (1:06) so she didn’t quite see it, but the rest were really strong and she is using her head to lead through the turns: nice and tight!!!!AU023 is the beginning puppy class, so definitely not the next step 🙂 I have a couple of postings coming up – you’ll get them in an email in the next day or two. I am a little detailed because I am out of state for a dog having surgery (getting a luxating patella fixed on one of my youngsters). But the things to look for are:
Blazing Blinds Boot Camp (the registration form is here: https://forms.gle/tyg9rMupzfdU33zb8Being posted soon:
MaxPup Teamwork Series: Want To Stay – Ready To Go (for teamwork going to the start line and great stays/lead outs)MaxPup Teamwork Series: Putting It Together (this will be the fuller next step after this puppy class as soon as I finish working out how to tweak it to make it work for indoor winter training LOL!)
Great job here!!!
Tracy
Hi!
I loved seeing the rehearsal here! On the backside push for 4, you can try to use that great connection from further across the bar, to make it easier to get to 5.
The run was just about perfect! You ran it basically exactly as you walked it, which is AWESOME 🙂 The only thing you can add in is more exit line connection on the landing of the backside jump – he was a little wide because you were looking forward. When I looked back at your walk through, you walked it the same way (not enough exit line connection there) so it is a good thing to add to your list of things to remember: plan your exit line connection. Everything else looked great! And doing the straight line at the very end proved that the lovely backside at 4 was not a fluke, it was based off your strong cue. Yay!! Great job!!
TracyHi there!
Nice work on the one jump exercises!! The get out was easy for him 🙂 You can add in more of a parallel line for your line of motion (you were moving a bit towards the jump, I bet he doesn’t need that). On the backside pushes: the first one looked really good, you used a position was easy-ish to get it rolling. On the 2nd rep, you had a more challenging position but I think you might have released him with you too close to him, so he assumed front side. On the next rep you adjusted your position to a little further ahead and the really lovely connection: and the next ones looked GREAT!! And then great job seeing his commitment and getting the heck outta there – his commitment looked great and your toy drops were awesomely timed. Yay!Moving into the short sequences: these went really well overall, some small tweaks to get them super smooth. It was funny that I would type something then you would say it on the video LOL!!!
Some details:
For the get out cues after the tunnel, you can start your get out cues right before he enters the tunnel, so he is prepared to turn away on the exit (he turned towards you for a step after the tunnel when you were quiet).
On the get outs: try to keep your feet moving towards the wing of the straight jump rather than towards the get out jump – that will add good distance (and help him see that it is not a RC on the flat) so when you add the FC or BC at the next jump, you are there even earlier 🙂 And for the timing, we can push and see what his commitment does: you can start the cross as soon as you see him heading towards 4 (jump before the tunnel). At :32 you were started as he was already jumping, so he dropped the bar. You were a little earlier on the Fc there at :48 but he was already lifting off. In that scenario, I bet you can start the cross before he gets to the entry wing of that jump so it is finished before he starts to take off.On the 3rd sequence – I liked the distance you used on the get out, this first rep of it at :59 had the best line so far! Then at 1:01 you just needed one more step of holding him on the come in cue – he turned his head but then you stepped him back out, so he went back out. I think you were trying to move backwards there, so the more exaggerated close cue (you gave a little extra shoulder turn on the next rep) really helped him!!
4th sequence – On the first rep, the backside needed more exaggeration of the upper body to show the difference between the front side and the backside but your running line was really good! On the 2nd rep, you had moved the running line in closer and that really helped! On the third rep, I think your upper body was REALLY strong which also helps, but with such a strong upper body cue, you didn’t need to get as close to the entry. So with that strong upper body cue, your running line from the first rep here should be perfect!
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyWheeeeee! The go lines look good, it is really fun! She was totally driving ahead there! Perfect! You can add in the sequence from the tunnel now – keep throwing the toy nice and early like you did to maintain this, it looks fabulous!!
Great job on all of these!!
TracyHer commitment looks a great on all of these!! It is really cool to see such a small dog with such strong commitment!!!
Subtle tweaks in mechanics should help it feel smoother. You can be in your position at the start, but using your dog-side arm/leg to give her a swoosh of motion to get her rolling. On these, you were rotated before the release which might be why it felt harder to get her moving into them.
On the backside wraps – her commitment is all good but you can totally move forward into those rather than send her behind you from a stationary position. She can start on your left arm and leg, take a step to commit her with the dog-side arm/leg, then rotate and leg. It looked like you felt weird pulling and sending all with the outside arm.Front side wraps can be more stationary like you were doing, but don’t have to be (she turns really nicely so you don’t have to grab her head like we need to with dogs that don’t turn as nicely) You can also start the cue with the dog-side arm and then kind of transfer her to the throw back arm. You can do a BC after jump 2 on any of these – it should be no problem because she is committing so nicely 🙂
She showed a really great understanding of countermotion on these, allowing you to leave really early and disconnect early too – she still committed and turned nicely, with zero questions. Yay!
On the backside slice – you can also use the dog-side arm/leg to cue these then step directly to the new direction. You were rotated on the cue for it at :44 and :54 so you ended up doing a spin then stepping out of it. That will help you get up the next line faster, and she doesn’t need the extra rotation.
Great job!!!
TracyHi!
Yes, after all of these months of connect connect connect…. disconnection is weird LOL!
No worries about her bringing the toy back to you over the jump – she had to shake it first LOL! Her commitment looked really good so you can ever-so-slightly delay the toy throw and plop on the wrap side of the wing. Then you can delay it entirely til after she completes the wrap.
The slices looked great! No trouble at all and she always appeared to be coming to take the jump even when you were leaving really early. The step backs at the end went really well too (they look like they felt weird LOL!). These are good ones to revisit here and there to make sure her commitment remains strong but at this stage, it looks great!
TracyHi! These are going well! It is mainly about strategy now with her – a little bit of timing, but mostly strategy 🙂
Here’s more:
Sequence 1: She is doing really well with your transitions for the FC at 4 at :06 and :17! Nice tight turns there!!Sequence 2
This is also going well! You can start using your get out cue before she takes off for 3, so you can stay straighter to the line. At :29 and :44 you were doing it as she landed so she needed a bit more support to the line, which is why you ended up moving towards the jump.
If you do need to move towards the jump at all, move towards the outside (exit) wing rather than the center of the bar, so it doesn’t look like a RC on the flat. You moved towards that outside wing really nicely at 1:01 and 1:17 and the line looked great!
For the FC at 5 – you can send into the get out and then run forward more – at :49 and 1:02 you were facing her for too long so she slowed down there. But you ran forward for longer at 1:19 and she was fast and tight!
So strategically, you don’t need to use as much distance on the get out cue because it might put you tooooo far ahead and cause too much decel.The same thing goes for the backside at 5 on sequence 3 – getting there too early causes you to decelerate a lot, so she slows down (1:34). Moving into it more will keep her speed up and also you can get to the blind on the landing side of it, so she drives to the last tunnel on an inside line (on your left) which will be faster than the outside line (on your right there)
Strategically on this one – less get out and more send to the backside will get more motion (more speed) and let you more easily commit to 5 so you can do a blind on the landing side. You mentioned a FC there but I think the BC will be easier for you to out run her to 🙂
Seq 4 –
You are starting to give the get out cues sooner (before 3, like at 1:43 and 2:00) and her line keeps getting nicer!!
You also moved into the backside more (by waiting a bit at 4) at 1:47 so there was more speed there too. That is what I meant by strategically not needing to leave 4 as early or use as much distance. You can also run in closer to run out of it, because the sends to 5 and 6 are the important ones.
For those 2 backsides: You can send her away more to 5 and move to 6 even sooner, sending to 6 so you can get past the wing as she is getting to the backside there. That will allow you to get that blind in – you were tending to either be a bit too close to the entry wing of 6 so you couldn’t out run her to the exit (she smoked you over 6 :)) or waiting a bit too long to send to the 5 backside (2:19 and 2:35) You did get the blind at 2:23 and on the last rep, but we want you to be able to get into the blind before she takers off (she had to wait for you for a step on those).Great job here! Now that she is doing so well on the get out, the strategy of just how much to use it and where will be the next bit of fun 🙂
Tracy
Hi! Did I miss this video?? Eek!! It looks great 🙂 The more I see of Tokaji in this class… the more I think she works best when you send her away using her distance skills, then leave to get to an ‘important’ spot then cue it and leave before she gets to it. She doesn’t even have time to bark at you, and in order to chase your line, she has to turn nicely. Yay!
The get out looks great on all of these. On course 1, you handled from a pretty big distance to get to the wrap jump at 5 – then cued it and left. She had a nice turn and she did the grunt that means she wanted to mouth off about it but did not have time hahaha
2nd run – even more distance on 4, easy peasy push to 5: then you were outta there so fast and so early! She turned wicked tight and found a new gear of speed 🙂
3rd rep looked great too – you can be even further across the bar at 6 as you cue the backside so you can be off of her line sooner for the blind to the 7 tunnel.Her commitment looks great so I feel like you are able to really use that to get where you need to be, commit in collection (without trying to get in her face about it, because that does not seem effective) then leave again. Let me know if that makes sense!
T
