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Hi!
>>I started a thread earlier in the week but I don’t know what happened to it so I’m starting another one.
It might be on page 2 – you can scroll down to find the different pages.
Nice work on these videos! Little suggestions for you:
rep 1 and 2: backside commitment and connection look great! One suggestion – Your the lead out line and release motion should support the backside line immediately. You were leading out on the front side line, releasing, and then when he landed you were pushing to the backside – so he had a zig zag on these between 1 and 2. You can show the motion as soon as you step away from him in the stay, even before the release, as long as he is lined up to easily take 1 (which looked good here). The verbal doesn’t need to start until landing of 1 but the motion can start before the release.
rep 3 – wrap – great connection and verbal! The physical cue was almost perfect – add in deceleration between the release and the rotation. You released and run and rotated… but while rotated, still moving forward pretty quickly so he turned but had to adjust on landing at :38 to make the really tight turn. Compare it to rep 4 at :45 – you showed an exaggerated decel and then rotated – he approached the jump really differently and had a much better turn! He did not have to adjust on landing, he could just power out of it. Yay! That decel made a big difference to him for sure.
2nd video, continuing the discussion of wrap cues:
the first rep did not have the decel, you were rotating but moving forward with speed, so he was a little wider (adjusted on landing) and barked at you. It gives us even more insight into the importance of the decel for him, and how early rotation is not important. Good to know! The ‘right’ at the end of this clip was lovely.Video 3:
>>It seemed to me that set 4 and 5 were the same?
Yes, my mistake, sorry!!
This video is marked unavailable (probably listed as private) can you relist so we can see the fun 🙂
Video 4:
This was cool to see decel versus no decel:
on the first wrap – decel then rotate, gorgeous. And you didn’t even exaggerate the decel, you just slowed then rotated and he nailed it. 2nd wrap: also a good transition but one step late so he was one step wider than the wrap on jump 2 here. You can also exaggerate that exit line connection so he can drive around super tight. Backside looked great! You can play with sending him to the backside from further across the bar – you run more towards center of the bar (as opposed to running to the entry wing) and then use your upper body/verbal/connection to get him to the backside. Great connection through the backside!Video 5:
This was also cool to see – first wrap was good and 2nd wrap you had a clear decel before the rotation – very nice! It is becoming 2nd nature – big steps then smaller steps then rotating) and he is turning well! The backside looked good here, so as with the video 4 suggestion: send from further across the bar 🙂Video 6: you are totally getting the hang of that small decel before rotating to set the wrap turns! This one has the wrap to the right that the 3rd rep had… but you were making a much prettier transition so his turn was much nicer. Yay! As he exits the wraps, call his name more so he can drive to you really hard out of them.
>> I have a bad habit of running inside the wing to cue turns and affecting his running line so I need to work on that!
Yes – You can see a bit of that where I mentioned you were too close to the entry wing of the backside on the previous reps, and or sure it happened here at the end – definite over-helping hahaha! So you can work on running more towards the center of the bar on the backsides. Bear in mind that it is not ideal to turn and look ahead for where the center of the bar is 🙂 so you will need to ‘anchor’ your running line off of a spot on the previous jump. You can see that spot while staying connected to him, and pretend there is an invisible line from that spot to the center of the bar – you will run on the invisible line and be able to cue the backside without breaking connection. Let me know if that makes sense.
Great job here!
TracyGood morning!
>> I worked on that as well as being PATIENT, and looking at her eyes!
You definitely get a gold star for both, especially the being patient part LOL!! That is so hard for me LOL!!!
>> I think #3 was my favorite.
I agree – and I think the stopwatch agrees too 🙂 Here is more:
Very nice first run! She looks much better on the backside wrap! We can do 2 things to play with that backside wrap – you can soften your push arm so it moves a little but you don’t need to draw as much of a circle for her as you did here at :03. The reason I suggest less arm is so you can leave sooner – by drawing the circle for her, you are still there when she lands and a bit on her line, so she goes a little wide to 4. Am I nit picking? Yes! LOL!! But mainly because we can shave time there and go even faster.
The other thing on exiting the backside wrap is to get ahead by maybe just one step or two, so you can send to 4 and leave like you did on reps 2 and 3. You had spectacular sends on those reps (FOR REAL!!!) and you got MILES ahead, so she was incredibly fast and then you could smoothly do the rear or go straight. I bet you could have gotten a blind cross on rep 2 isntead of a rep cross between 6 and 7 if you wanted it, you were SO far ahead – note how she didn’t even have time to share her opinins on the ending line of rep 2 or 3 (well, she shared her opinion when she landed at the end, and I think she said WOW!)
Ok, back tracking to the beginning of reps 2 and 3:
The threadle to the circle on 2 worked well! But… I timed it and it was slower than the backside wrap (rep 1) and the slice from the other side (rep 3). So you can keep working it to see if you can stay a little closer to jump 3, it might be that you moved away a step to set it up? I personally think that these lines are always a little slower (I like to time things a lot), so they are best used when there is no other option.On rep 3, you tried the slice on jump 3: this was FAST and might be the winning line if you make one tweak: don’t do as close to the entry wing of the backside so you can be a little more ahead and off her line when she needs it coming around the wing of 3 to 4 (she told you about it there too :)) Try to send from the center of the bar or even on the exit wing of 3. When I timed rep 1 versus rep 3, they were just about even – so if you can get away from the entry wing and off the line a little, I think this will end up being fastest 🙂 But it is very cool that she can execute both skills (wrap and slice) so well that they are almost equal: that is unusual!!
Rep 4 – the threadle/slice (switch) on 3 is also a good skill to own! You can probably take one more step to the jump for now on the switch cue, she seemed to question a tiny bit. She was coming around that exit wing pretty darned tight, so you might not have needed the come cue there (it didn’t look like she was going to take the wrong side of 4.)
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
Big progress on your push cues on the skills sets! He is going to the backside from more of a distance for sure – I see the difference here! You were moving up the parallel line and and not having to shove your foot to the backside to help him. And when he was on your right, it seems like you were even a little further away. Yay!! You are cueing it correctly 🙂 As he gets to the backside slice, if you takeoff with too much speed, he is running past the bar. So, for now, move away with less speed. That was when he was most successful 🙂 And keep rewarding that skill for sure 🙂 This session looked good (I will head over to CC2 after I finish up here LOL!)
>> I abandoned the threadle as I think it was just too much
Yeah, that was a good decision! You can work on the threadle as a one jump game – but also, it is kind of a low priority (definitely lower priority than backsides!) We have a ton of time to get him to be proficient on threadles before you need to actually use them anywhere 🙂 So you can work on the front side and backside commitment, and we will add threadles in at some point 🙂
>>I am guessing it will just take time before I will be able to be on the other wing and just use the verbal like you do with Voodoo.
Yes – Voodoo is 7 years old and I also worked him extensively on this skill using my opposite arm to cue it. For a couple of years. Possibly for longer than Watson has been alive! Watson is not even 2, right? I think he is younger than Hot Sauce… who will be 2 in July. So Hot Sauce is a better frame of reference – she cannot do backsides like Voodoo can either hahahahaha 🙂 You are on exactly the right path with Watson!
Great job here!
TracyHello and welcome, so happy to see you here 🙂
>> due to all of the travelling involved with my job I have not been able to travel to agility tournaments on weekends as well.
I guess the good news of these crazy times is that you can do agility tournaments at home or with your training group!
Charlee and Dikkens sound like so much fun 🙂 Check out the class overview, and you will see how they can each get turns working. You don’t have to choose just one. And Gidget sounds terrific – I love Rat Terriers!
>> My question is my A frame is broken and I have to purchase a new one. Right now looking around for a used one. Is it possible in the exercises to substitute a dog walk as the contact.
No problem! You can substitute just about anything: a dog walk ( you would stretch out the course because of the length difference between the frame and the DW) or anything you have access to: a jump or two, a straight tunnel, a teeter, even 6 weaves! We can be completely flexible so you can still get tons of training in 🙂
Have fun!
TracyHi there!
Lots of great stuff on your skills work here!!! Here are some thoughts and ideas:
Using a wing on backside jumps will make it easier for her jumping effort and also allow you to send and leave sooner on the backside. It is not as important on the front side wraps.
video 1:
1st rep – good push to the backside, you can try to leave sooner! She read it really well.
2nd rep – At jump 1, you can line her up on the slice for jump 1 so she is facing backside and doesn’t do a zig zag to it when she lands from 1. Good job leaving sooner on the backside and very nice connection on exit!3rd rep – nice timing on the dig dig wrap (yay for the verbal too) and nice connection exiting it! You are showing excellent connection on the exits of your crosses and backsides.
Compare it to rep 4 at 1:18: on rep 3, you were handling Winnie: connected and clear! On rep 4, you were handling jump 2, very connected to jump 2 LOL!! So she was looking at you because she was unsure of what to do and then didn’t take the jump. In the video, you said it was ‘too hard’ but I think more connection is all she needed there.
Much much better connection at 1:44 and she took the jump of course 🙂 Now, let’s obsess on timing 🙂 On rep 3, at :54 – she was just getting ready to pass you and was still maybe just past landing of jump 1 and you were starting the verbal and rotation – great turn! On rep 5, you started the rotation as she was taking off for jump 2 at 1:42 and I don’t think there was a verbal cue – so it was a little late and she jumped wide. Even on the bigger lead outs, you can start the verbal and rotation at the same time as you did at :54.Compare it to rep 6 at 1:45 – YES! Connection plus earlier cue got a LOVELY turn, look at your girl bending there! Yay! Just add the verbal for complete perfection.
Then stay connected, though, to show her the next jump at 1:49. You had the connection as she came around jump 2, but then looked forward and turned your shoulder so she didn’t take 3. You can revisit a bit of ‘lazy’ handling and just walk past jumps with minimal connection to remind her to take them even when you aren’t perfectly connected.
You had all the elements on that last rep! Connection, timing on the wrap, connection to 3 and then a strong clear connection to the backside and after the cross! Excellent rep!
2nd video:
1st rep – nice wrap on 2! I think a spin on 3 will tighten up the turn 3-4 or an earlier send and go. You rounded the corner there, creating a curve so she went a little wide. The backside looked good!2nd rep – the backside pushes were really good on this one (at the beginning and on the last jump). I think she was hot so she was letting you get away with being late on the wrap cues at 2 🙂 Remember to use the lovely timing from the previous video and also from rep 1 here.
3rd rep – this sequence looked good from the handling side of things – connected and timely. The bar came down at 2 – my guess is that she was hot and just didn’t jump high enough. You can work the skills stuff at 4 inches so she can go fast and stay cooler longer, in the summer heat 🙂
4th rep – she did a much better job on the bar on this rep – I don’t think she enjoys knocking bars, so she really put in a big effort to keep it up. Good girl!! Then you broke connection a little and she didn’t take the next jump… I have custom skills sets coming out starting tomorrow, and yours is going to be able convincing her to commit even when you aren’t perfect in your connection! You over-helped a little there at 1:21 and got the backside, but that is better than her not taking it.
The last rep looked great! The rotations were easy for her to read and your connection was strong. On the hot days, put the bars all the way down so she can push you with her speed, more like what she was doing on the first video 🙂Great job on these, I am happy with the skills! Keep reminding yourself of the timing: she turns BEAUTIFULLY when you are early on the turn timing. Connection is looking strong and we will add in the games to get her to stay on her line when you turn your shoulder or head too early.
Tracy
Hi! This is the same link as from the 18th…. can you post the link from yesterday? One thought though, as I re-watched this video: At 1:21, you said “go” when you really want a soft turn verbal. Question: when you are working even these small skills, do you give yourself a walk through to practice pairing the handling with the verbal? You might feel like a dork, doing a walk through on 2 jumps… but it will totally help you get your verbal going! It will help pattern you to spit out the correct word so when you have to do it with her, it becomes second nature!
Also, does she have the same verbals as Wilson (or vice-versa)? That can really help keep you sane LOL!
T
Good morning!
>>so he only runs my speed.
This might be a reflection of the value of the placement of reinforcement: food coming from your hand or very near you. So, with whatever rewards you use – throw it as far from you, out on a line, for all rewards 🙂 It would be fun to get him blasting to off course lines, because that is easy to “dial back” when he feels the wind in his hair 🙂
>>>He loves his balls even better than food, and I have been playing fetch with him after his training sessions are all done. I used his ball for his reward for each run today.
If he loves the ball more than food… the ball can be the agility reward on course in training! We can work to transfer the value and joy of the ball into the coursework 🙂
Seq 1:
1st rep – he had a lot more speed (wheee!) so your around cue for 6 was a little late and he got the front. No worries, I like the speed – so if it happens, just keep going then throw the ball on the next line.2nd rep: He was super pumped up on the start line!! You were more prepared for the speed on this one, and got the earlier around cue at 6. One thing we are going to add to his training: rewards for correct line and speed while in the middle of a course, not at the end. When he is driving away (like to #4 here) or chasing you fast up a line, you can reward somewhere in the middle of the course by throwing the ball (rather than waiting for the end and stopping). I want him to be looking for jumps and then seeing the reward thrown out on the line while you are both moving.
This will mean that the reward is in your hand when you are training alone so you can throw it instantly while you run. If you have a training partner (maybe your videographer can multi-task? LOL!) or in a class, have someone else throw it. I know that it might be tricky to have a non-family-member throw it in pandemic times, so feel free to run with it in your hand so you can throw it. When it is in your pouch or pocket, he ends up stopping while you get it out and we don’t want stopping – we want it to appear while you are both running at high speed.
3rd rep – I loved the blind on 6, you were living on the edge there! You had to scramble to get it (and you did, well done!) and he liked that. Yay!
4th rep had the FC there on takeoff of 6… he outran you a bit so the FC ended up being late. He seems like a super polite guy and was patiently allowed you to finish your FC, but that slows him down. So, the blind cross is the better option here – it is better to be wild and take the risk with the blind, for him, to go fast than it is to do the FC and potentially cause him to power down and wait.On this sequence – he has his most speed on 1-2,-3 so you can throw the ball after 3, for example, while you keep moving. His send to 4 is terrific so you can also send to 4, run away and throw it for jump 5.
seq 2 on the opening line: you can also run for the blind cross on takeoff of 3, or push to the backside of 3 from further away (I bet he will like the BC better :)) – you pushed but you were a little in the way so he politely waited on the first rep and 3rd rep (he ended up on the backside line to 4 because you were on his line when he needed it there). On the last rep, you sent from further across the bar (which he read perfectly, which is also why I have no worries about the handling skills here) then you really turned on the rocket boosters to get around the wing there at 3 and he was much better (he did have one moment of waiting, though, which is why I think the forced blind on takeoff side will be great for him – no waiting!)
On the 2nd rep, it shows just how responsive he is to handling: you got a little behind and disconnected to run forward (he was being polite again) and then when you reconnected, he read it ias a cue to take the jump: good boy! In that moment you can just keep going and throw the ball somewhere for the next jump.
On the end line on the 1st and 4th reps – he is so responsive that I think for this type of line, you don’t really need to do more than call him, turn your shoulder and run as fast as you can (and throw the ball somewhere on the line). It is a course analysis thing: if you think he will land from each jump and, with a shoulder turn, be already looking at the correct side of the next one… then you don’t need to handle the turn or decel at all. If you think he might be lookined at a backside line, then you can add more turn cues.
Overall, I like how his speed pushed you here and that caused you to hustle, which in turn created more speed 🙂 Yay!
Keeping the bars low for now will really help – we will creep them back up slowly while maintaining the speed. And, adding in throwing a ton of rewards all throughout the sequence will help too!
All of that reinforcement will mean that he doesn’t always run the sequences from start to finish… but the truth is that he doesn’t need to run them from start to finish. Your handling skills and teamwork look REALLY good, so I think the goals here are just to get him wild and fast 🙂 When we get that, it will eb easy for you to put it all together. You can play with that concept on the novice sequences if you like, plus everyone if going to get ‘custom skills sets’ tomorrow to play with this week… so Ivan is going to get SPEEEED sets 🙂 Fun!Great job, let me know what you think!
TracyKeep me posted! It is also a good way to keep the skill “sharp” for dogs who are already good at it.
Hi!
>> I feel like my teamwork with Pose is coming together much faster because Lever required so much extreme connection from me.
We live parallel lives… my teamwork with HS is easier than with Voodoo for the exact same reason! What with the future hold with our tiny dogs? And my big pointy dog too haha
>>On the verbal wraps, I will ponder more on that and probably will have different verbals for them. Push is the current backside. I will have to think about whether that should be a backside wrap or slice. Then think of another cue that doesn’t sound like the others.
My guess is that is it easier to keep push as a slice because the behavior is easier and also she has probably had it paired with slicing more often. We need a ‘unique verbal’ generator app, just like there are password generator apss out there LOL!
>>I don’t know why, but I struggled with the diagrams on the skills sets. I’m not sure why. But it took me forever to figure out the lines and the numbers. I kept getting myself confused. Maybe because sometimes the lines ran the entire course and sometimes only parts of it and then sometimes I had to go to the end and follow the arrows back. I could not tell what the difference was between #4 & #5 and between #3 and #6. I must have dyslexia because going between the lines and the numbers was too difficult for me. Not sure how to make that easier.
Thanks for letting me know! The next skills sets will have more written stuff too, so it should be less confusing (and fewer lines).
1st video:
rep 1:
I loved the timing on the first wrap – I bet you can move forward out of it even sooner! But also, turn your head to the new side so quickly that you can see her rounding the wing, to match the timing on the 2nd wrap. As she was approaching the 2nd wrap at :09. you were still facing forward so she ended up jumping long.
2nd rep – you moved out sooner away from the first wrap than on the first rep – she ticked the bar so that is definitely something to show her (countermotion as she is turning in collection) and reward for the clean jumping effort.
On the 2nd wrap on this rep and also reps 3 and 4:You got your connection back to her much sooner and started the turn cues much sooner on the 2nd wrap, but she still thought it was late (note how she kicked up clods of grass turning on landing at :18. The big difference that I see on :18, :26 and :35 compared to the first wrap on those reps is that on the first wrap, the cue is mainly the ‘new’ arm so there is more rotation and on the 2nd wrap, you are giving more ‘swoosh’ forward with the dog-side arm so there is less rotation. On the last one at :35, you left even earlier but the leaving earlier didn’t make a big difference – so she definitely seems to prefer the new arm (fuller rotation) as the turn cue because she was really lovely on the first wrap on all these reps.
I think she was scrambling a bit on the backside on this rep and pulled the rail, it didn’t happen on the other reps so no worries 🙂2nd video:
these went really well! On the wrap on jump 2: more evidence that she really likes the ‘new’ arm as the cue (fuller rotation): :05, :12 and :21 were all really nice and had the new arm nice and early. On the last rep (:30) there was more dog-side arm (slightly less rotation) and she was wider there. So getting that new arm/full rotation into place is really helpful.
On the backside pushes, your connection was strong after the first oopsie – so strong, that it looks like you losing the line and ending up a little on her line (almost pushed her off at :25). You can walk the sequence so you end up running more to the center of the bar on the backside lines rather than towards the wing – you can anchor your running line off of the wing of 2, picking a spot to move up an invisible line from, so you don’t look forward to find the center of the bar. That will help tighten her lines to the backside while allowing you to maintain the connection.3rd video:
Sequence 1:
Interesting that she dropped the first bar, it might have been a question about your position: you were up the line and a bit lateral? She was fine on the next rep, so she got to read whatever she needed to see to clarify it 🙂
2nd rep – the timing on the FC 3-4 worked nicely but it almost looked like she was considering the other end of the tunnel – so moving your line one or 2 steps further away will help her see the line to the tunnel more clearly at :13.
Also, try to call her just before she enters so she can be prepared for the tighter turn – you can also consider a left directional there too!3rd rep – the line to the tunnel was much better here, it looks like she had no questions! Her turn on 3 looks really good too. And as with the 2nd rep – give her more verbal info before she enters to tighten up the tunnel exit (and you can move away to the last jump too :))
Sequence 2: This was interesting to watch her work through the soft turn cue to get back to the tunnel.
When she was staying out on her line you were facing forward and not moving much – she did better when you rotated towards her, like at :49 and :57. It works but is also makes it harder for you to get up the next line (that was some speed she was showing to and through the tunnel!!!). So can experiment with closing the shoulder more towards the tunnel (sooner) with that brake hand – to see if that helps her read the line . It will get you facing the new line sooner (and therefore running up the new line sooner :)) so it will be interested to see how she reads it.Sequence 3:
>> I wasn’t happy with the opening much it felt like I was late showing the turn at #3.
It was a bit of a domino effect: the BC on the tunnel was a little late, so she came out like a rocket – which then made showing the turn at 3 a little late because you had to catch the rocket 🙂 When I froze the video, when she was a bout 3 feet from the tunnel entry, you had started the blind but she couldn’t see the new connection and you were pretty quiet – so it didn’t register. Try starting it a stride or two sooner so when she is about 3 feet from the tunnel, you are almost fully turned & reconnecting, and talking to her. That will give you a tighter turn on the tunnel exit AND give you time to cue the turn on 3.
I liked the wrap turn at :26 but LOVED the wrap turn at :38! You basically ran her across your feet, feet facing the last jump, soft hands – that gave her hours to set up the turn (well, hours at Pose speed hahahah). Very nice!!!! And it also kept you ahead more in case there was something crazy on the next part of the course.Great job, let me know what you think!
Tracy
Hi!
>>Let me just say in general, I have no idea how to run this dog yet :). We have had time to work individual skills, but we haven’t spent much time putting lots of things together. Hard year.
Yes – crazy hard year and also she is still so young, that it is completely understandable that you are still finding the rhythm.
>Also, it felt like two jumps is harder than 4 or 5. She and I both love our adrenaline.>
Yes! it adds the element of not being able to drive in with motion – definitely harder 🙂
Do you care if we start these skills from a tunnel? I am not a fan of having Zing doing a bunch of sit/stay.
>>2nd rep, yep, I want a wrap. I don’t think I have proof this one as well. Can’t remember doing in on an angle jump. She is sensitive still to the angle of jumps. We will go back and work that.
I’ve git a head-turn thing coming, stay tuned LOL
>>“it did totally look like a backside send at :22, because as she landed from 1 you did the big arm change – so that created pressure out to the backside .”
interesting. I should never have that arm up for a backside send. In this case I would use my left arm for the send. So I obsessed on this, I was looking at the backside at .22, at .29 my focus was more down and to the right wing.Does that have anything to do with it, was she also paying more attention to where my eyes were focused?>>Could be! It looked like it was more of a pressure thing – the opposite arm sends to the backside are natural for many dogs even if they are never trained, because of the pressure of the shoulders/chest and where you eyes are. It was probably an all-of-the-above moment 🙂
>>.39, total f*&^ up on my part LOL>>
Ha! She got her prize so she was very happy 🙂
>>let me know what you think of the tunnel start.
Sure! Or a wing to wrap around. Either way is fun!
Tracy
Hi!
>>Hope you’re up for more of Mochi & me, because you got us. 🙂
ALWAYS happy to see you both!!!
>>I don’t have huge amounts of space in the backyard, so I may have to get a little creative for the coursework, but I can also rent training space, so I will do that when I can.>>
Everything is flexible so we can be creative.
>>On a couple of these, we only did one rep if it was right on the first go, just to save her energy since she likes to give 8000% on everything.
Smart! No need to drill her!
>>Stupid question – what is the difference between 4 & 5 in the skills? I could not figure it out, but it’s been a looooooong week.
Haha not stupid at all… it is an accidental duplicate. Sorry!
Onwards to videos:
A general tweak on the first video is to have her line up on a slice for 1, so she if facing the backside at 2 and can run a straight line rather than have to turn on landing.
1st rep – very nice!
Backside wraps on the other reps:
it was the handling not the tunnel (the poor tunnel takes the blame for everything hahahaha!!)
She was being a very honest girlie. As you were cuing her to come around to the backside, you were moving forward and turning your shoulders at :18, :26 and :39. That shoulder turn towards the bar commits her to the slice line (as if it was a slicing rear cross aka whiskey turn). So – treat it like a wing wrap and not a jump bar: be sideways to the wing, (your right hip near the wing) and cue her to take it – but then step out of of and don’t turn your shoulders to the bar (no need for a hand on landing side either) – moving forward should be plenty (and connection of course). That will help her discriminate slice versus wrap.2nd video:
Nice job on the post turn wrap! Try to do it a lot sooner – cue and leave so she can see your departure before she decides how to take off.
on the 2nd rep, you were facing a little too forward so she jumped long and ticked the bar, but the 3rd rep had more movement away so she was able to pick up the turn. So the suggestion on this one is to trust her commitment and leave early 🙂 I would say that the timing will be best if you leave before she passes you.3rd video:
first rep: the bonus tunnel was valid: at :07 when she comes around the wing, your feet and chest were pointing to it and you were moving, sooo… tunnel! Wheee!
With the tunnel there as a potential on the line, she would need more than a post turn, probably needs a spin.
On the 2nd rep at :18 you did more of a threadle/reverse flow pivot to get her off the tunnel – she didn’t take it but she sure had questions 🙂 It also put you behind for the line to 4 – as she took 3 (no worries if it was the wrong side :)), you lost connection trying to get up the line at :20 so she took the wrong side.
3rd rep was definitely smoother! I do think a spin on 2 will get her eyes off the tunnel easily while also getting you running forward sooner. The threadle worked here but it still faces you the wrong direction for a shade too long.4th video – the timing of the first wrap was really lovely! You can match that timing for the 2nd wrap but starting it the instant her head comes around the wing. And nice job on the backside! Note on that backside at :07 that your feet were pretty forward and you did not turn your shoulders to the bar: she committed and did not consider the delicious tunnel 🙂 So this is more like what the backside wrap on the 1st video should look like, the only difference being that you will be more on the landing side than on the takeoff side.
Great job here! Let me know if it makes sense, especially the backside wraps 🙂
Tracy
Hi!
>>She also tends to take off far from the jump, I see where you said I need to rotate sooner to help tighten her turn.
She doesn’t take off very close on tight turns, but she does make adjustments to her approach that allow her to turn tight (versus where she takes off for extension lines)
>>We did the novice seq. today. I couldn’t find Seq 1 so we started with 2.
Sequence 1 should be in the PDF – I reloaded it because it was wonky for a bit. Sorry!
On the video:
theses are looking good!1st rep – you can give the left cue before she enters the tunnel and run a bit more closer to the lines so you don’t get stuck dancing in place. That is especially true at :05 as you go from the jump to the tunnel and have to get up the line – connect to her eyes and cue the tunnel but run sooner. You are tending to bend over and wait, and I bet you can get outta there sooner.
2nd rep – you gave your right cue on time before the tunnel and she did turn right… it is possible you need a wrap cue on the tunnel exit here to get a tighter turn. The threadle hlped get her to the correct side but I think that a wrap cue rather than a right cue will help that too.
At :22 on the wrap jump after the tunnel, you can cue a bit more collection – rather than indicating the jump and the landing spot, go to the position you were in and use your left hand more towards her and nice and low, kind of like a stop sign toward her nose before she gets to the takeoff side. That can tighten it and also allow you to leave early 🙂
Something to try is to see if the slice line is faster here – you can use one of your strong rear cross skills to slice her over that jump and take off! It would be fun to time the difference.3rd rep – you had 3 verbals on the tunnel – a right, a collection (I think?) and then the threadle. At least that is what I think they were 🙂 You can drop the right and just use the collection verbal and see how she does.
Good job trusting her line to get the jump and the tunnel! Verbals and a little bit of connection are all she needed there at :30
At the wrap, when you try the hand on the takeoff side, also try to move more directly forward to that last jump for a few strides then move away laterally (so you don’t end up jumpin the bar haha) – a few strides of running forward right past the wing will set a tighter line to the last jump. You’re running away laterally so she is going wide to follow that line.4th rep – I like the idea of the side change on the tunnel exit! She needs to see it happen before she goes in: the last thing she saw was you accelerating forward, so she also accelerated forward. Let her see you execute the blind while she is still 3 to 6 feet before the tunnel entry, so she is prepared when she exits.
That, plus a little decel on 3, will set up a really nice line 🙂
There was that lovely slicing RC on the 6 jump!!>>Even though it was longer, I liked the rear on 6 and I think it was easier on her body. I see was not a backside
Haha yeah, not a backside but it is harder that way LOL!
And I am not convinced the yardage is longer when you take into account the yardage of the wrap. I timed the difference between the slice here and the wrap on rep 2: the slice is faster by about .15 🙂 Yay for slices!!!
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Thunderstorms and deluges derailed my head turn video – heading out in a few minutes to try it again, the rain has stopped for a moment.1st rep – very nice! This is an easier slice to his right here than the other side to his left. You can see if you can cue then elave earlier: you stayed near the jump til he took off: try to move out of there as he is passing you.
2nd rep & 3rd rep – this left turn is a harder angle based on the angle of the jumps, so you can emphasize the collection in one of 2 ways (or both :)) – you can rotate your feet more to the new line. Rather than have your feet parallel to the jump, rotate your feet fully back to where you are going next: your toes will be perpendicular to the jump bar and not parallel to it.
You can shape this turn more as more of a reverse v-set, by changing your position on the bar: placing yourself more where the wing meets the bar to shape the line.
The angle of the jump & line suggest this, not the left turn itself 🙂
On the 4th rep at :19, you had a little bit more of a shaping position and he definitely collected a little more on the takeoff side. Not turning his head (yet) but still collecting 🙂 So the shaping position on that type of line is something worthwile to play with, along with more rotation.
MIrror:
1 -now the left slice is the easy slice! At :26 he is taking off and you are still cuing the jump… feel free to be long gone by then 🙂 As soon as you see him collecting, you can move out to the next line – this will also turn your feet more and will result in an even sweeter turn.2- the right wrap is the harder one here but your rotation and timing of leaving earlier made a BIG difference – you started moving away at :30 when he was passing you, so he added more collection! The earlier departure and turn of feet make a big difference to him.
2nd video:
1st rep:
At :03, you are really very rotated and leaving and he is still pretty far from the jump: very nice turn there! At :06 on the 2nd wrap (also to the right) he is in about the same spot relative to the jump on the first wrap where you were already leaving: but on this wrap, you are just starting the info so he is little wide.
Same thing happened on the 2nd rep – at :12, he has landed from 1 and is miles from the jump, and you are giving tons of collection info (you are basically fully turned before he takes off) so he sets up a great turn! At :15 you started the info much later, so the turn did not have the same quality.>> I did it as shown and then I did a mirror to answer the question: “Does he turn better one way than the other?” It appears to me that he turns right better than left.
I am not sure yet – I think you showed better info on the right turns than the left turns, so try to flip the sides and show the early info – I bet he turns equally well on both sides.
>>Then I went off in a corner to obsess on backside wraps.
Haha! I will be trying the head turn video again, rain seems to be done, fingers crossed!
T
