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>>I think it’s actually the focus bc we started this with her when you were here for the seminar and she did the same thing going around it. It’s like she can stay but can’t jump. 8” seems to help.>>
It is probably like tapping her head and rubbing her belly… can’t quite process doing 2 different things at the same time yet LOL!!
>> I also think “break” has baggage so I liked how by saying jump each time and her getting food it seemed to release pressure. Normally doing some stays and using the break she gets MORE amped where here she seemed steady other then my ready cue which is a rev up cue and probs don’t ever need it with her.>>
Yes, if break has baggage then you can use jump (then break until she starts releasing with no questions on just the jump verbal). And true, you probably don’t need the ‘ready’ in the training building but it is good to have a way to make her wild LOL!!!
Tracy
Hi!
Lots of nice work here too! My ideas are more about the subtleties and where we can get tighter lines:On the opening, you can move sooner 2-3 (:06) so you get a better turn to 3, so he doesn’t accelerate almost past it when you accelerate
The second rep was much better at 1:15 (you kept moving better) and now you can tell him “around” sooner: the timing will be more ideal if you say it when he lands from 2 and is looking towards 3 (he was almost at the front of 3 when you told him about the around)Nice flip over 3 to send to the tunnel!!
More timing ideas: you can tell him to do the around at 6 before he takes off for 5, so he doesn’t look at you over 5 or turn to you (:14) . You were earlier there at 1:20 (he was landing from 5) but it can still be sooner. Once he is gathering for takeoff at 5, he is ready for the next cue so you can cue the around.
The serp line is a hard exit so he had a bar on 6 at :15. To help show the line sooner, you can keep moving with shoulders open to him (facing the jump) towards 7. If you close your shoulders and move along a parallel line to the bar of 6, you will set a different jumping angle and the adjustment will cause the knocked bar. Your line was better fo sure at 1:22 – you can stick closer to the exit wing to get an even better line with collection before takeoff.
Coming from the tunnel under the frame, he needed a turn cue needed on 10 to set up the turn before takeoff so he could land facing 11. He got the info when he landed at :22 and :38. You had decel at 1:28 which totally helped and you can do it sooner: a bit of decel, turn shoulders, maybe a brake arm 🙂 as he exits the tunnel and heads towards 10. That will also get the ‘switch’ on 11 happening sooner so he doesn’t look to his left at all there.
The line from the 12 jump to the DW to the tunnel to the frame looked great with the layering! Fast and fun!
It is possible the accidental slice at 17 looked like the flip away/rear cross at :59 because you were moving forward of the wing and turned your shoulders to the slice exit wing for exactly one heartbeat (he sees everythin!) Good save!!! At 1:42 you stayed behind the wing and decelerated, setting up the wrap beautifully. A BC exit will get the last line even more easily.
>>ON the second (final) run, I sent him to #18 with “GO!” so I have no one to complain to when he did, indeed, take off.>>
Yep! You wrote ‘cheater’ on the video LOL but in fact, I think that the cue you’ve (accidentally) trained to get the toy is when you say go facing the jump between you and the toy. You can see it in the previous video and he is pretty convinced here too. So, use a get it marker or something different than the go, to be very consistent.
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
I am glad you found this course interesting!! I had fun noodling around with it 🙂
> On paper, I wanted to go to the far wing of #2 for the backside but when I saw the course on the ground, I took the nearside.>>
His focus forward on jump 1 was really strong!! This is the type of opening to try both ways – there is no “wrong” answer (ok, maybe a wrap on 2 is the wrong answer LOL!), just the answer of which is the faster line.
The reason I think the way you ran it might not be faster is because there was a tight turn needed on 1, a tight turn needed on both the entry and exit of 2, and another turn on 3. That’s a lot of turning! Handled the other way, there are turns on 2 but 1 and 3 really don’t have turns. There might be more yardage, though, so it is a matter of what the stopwatch says 🙂
I would be curious to see him run it the other way (coming to the slice on 2 from the other wing) because I think that line will have fewer turns and could be faster. If it is still set up, and it is not a million degrees outside, you can do 2 sessions of just 1 through 5: session 1 begins with one version of the slice then the 2nd run is the other version of it. Session 2 flips that. Then we time it all and get an answer.
Nice job on the layering with the teeter! For training, you can throw a reward or have it placed out past the teeter, so he looks forward and doesn’t stop quite as far up the teeter board with you that far away.
You forgot the 8 jump on these, which makes the line a little harder on you -you added a FC on 6-7 to go to 10, which works so if he self-releases, be prepared so you can start the FC 6-7 sooner.
>>Enzo decided he was finished after #10 and left off to grab his toy: surprisingly bad behavior>>
The “Go” on the 10 jump at :21 might have contributed to the toy grabbing, be careful of your markers when leaving a placed toy! He doesn’t strike me as a naughty dog (I mean, he is not a Papillon hahahahah) so there might be something in that context that caused that.
At 1:00, you used a “go” and a similar body cue to indicate that he should in fact go to the toy… so I think it was not a naughty moment, just a bit of inconsistency in cues/markers showing up.
10-11-12 was easy for him, and fast and fun! We can tighten the turn on 13 at the weaves with deceleration and a brake arm: when he exits the tunnel, you are cuing the turn with decel, verbal, outside arm (stay tuned for more on that in the live class sequences tomorrow, it is something everyone is struggling with so I built the games around that skill!)
The distance work from weaves to tunnel to jump to frame was GREAT! Yes, the flip you did from the exit of the weaves to the tunnel at 1:35 and after that was much clearer handling.
And SUPER adjustment at 1:42 to move towards the bar on the threadle jump at 18 until he looked at it (first time, you didn’t move to it so he never looked at the bar).
The exit of 18 to get 19 was tricky – you can use a wrap verbal on the exit of the threadle jump (rather than a more general come verbal), and then the push cue was clearly the winner after it. I would also be curious to see if there is any benefit to the wrapping the 18 backside! He wraps pretty well and it is likely to be shorter yardage, so it is something to try and we can time the differences.
Great job here!
TracyWelcome back to you and Mister Jackpot!!!!
>> Some exceptionally welcome behaviors are emerging, but not without a few vexing adolescent concerns as well.>>
You have just summed up the entirety of canine adolescence in one sentence LOL!!! Ok, maybe human adolescence too. Ha! One of the “joys” of adolescence is that the brain is in a rapid development stage… and there is a lot of learning but also a lot of emotion. And days when previous learning seems to have entirely disappeared (this is normal).
As we get started, give me a list of the vexing concerns so we can make a plan! I am just getting out of adolescence with one dog, in the middle of it with another, and getting ready to go into it with a 3rd. So I am all about adolescent dog planning right now LOL!!
Have fun!
TracyHello and welcome back!!!!
>>we tried your suggestions at flyball – running around him before recalls and changing direction before he reaches the tug and they worked really well!!!>>
YESSSSS!!! Very exciting!!!!
>>I am having trouble remembering his no reward cookie fast enough and he jumps on me – sometimes even before I have processed that what happened>>
We have lots of little sequences in this class, so we can do a combination of getting you to either keep going or reward super fast, or going right into a pattern game after a stop in the action. His adolescent neurons are doing typical adolescent neuron things (JUMP ON DA MOMMA!!!) so we can definitely help him out 🙂
>>And functioning around toys, people, other dogs, or a new place, or any situation where he is having a turn (class, seminar, recalls at flyball) is challenging. I feel we are working through this / but it’s a significant focus right now>>
Yes, definitely a significant focus, I can relate! How strong are his pattern games? Those will be your absolute lifesaver 🙂 They give his brain a way to process the environment and really help balance the arousal. I promise we will survive adolescence LOL!!!
>>The struggle that I am feeling very anxious about is the lack of a stay when he is aroused …. But that is a big topic – so for now I’ll just say it’s on “the list”😊>>
We will do some stay work in this class for sure! No anxiety needed, we will sort it and he is doing great. We keep the pressure off as we build it up. An example is a Golden from the previous MaxPup generation was having the same exact issues as West as this age: stay struggles, trying to balance arousal, all totally normal stuff. She kept the pressure off and she just started trialing (I think he is 2 years old now)… his stay is spectacular, no jumping on da momma, and he is very successful with his runs!!!! I mention it because I feel that West is on the same path and I know we will get there 🙂
Have fun!
TracyHello and welcome back!!!! Perfect timing after your trip!
>> Now to see how we can get things done with 100 degree temps. Might need to look for ring rental options so we don’t melt.>>
Ugh, I can relate. I live in the mountains of Virginia and we are in the mid 90s every day now… EWWWW!! So, this morning it was training at dawn and with a lot of daylight at this time of year, I can train outside at 8:30pm LOL!!! I also use very very cold treats and that has helped the dogs a lot!
>>Ven turned 13 months old this week. How did that happen? He’s struggling with the concept of not getting to say hello to every person and dog he sees so we will also be going places to “watch not greet” for a while.>>
He is the best boy! Do you remember that patten game from Maxpup 1? Use it to get him ignoring people… and then put ‘go say hi’ on a cue so he does get his fill of hugs and kisses 🙂
Have fun!
TracyFor me, it is the Summer Of JimJams! First, Minnesota. Now, online. Next, Chicago. And then maybe Iowa too? I am so excited!!!! Have a blast!!
Tracy
Hello and welcome! I am so glad you joined us!!!
>>at the same time ‘worrying’ if we’ll do good and if it’s the right class for us 🙂
We will make sure it is exactly what you want it to be 🙂
>>Fly is almost 2 years old Great Dane, so isn’t exactly ‘a puppy’ by age (but Danes mature later LOL)
So fun! I love Danes. I got to work with a “tiny” puppy Dane in New York recently, and I have also had the pleasure of meeting and working with Tabitha Plambeck’s Danes from Alaska. Do you know her?
>>we didn’t do previous classes in this series – but I hope ‘training and skills-wise’ we will be able to ‘catch-up’ and follow the class.>>
You will have no trouble at all – feel free to ask questions and we can fill in anything we might want to add for Fly. We have had lots of folks join the program here in MaxPup 3 and have a blast!
>> While it’s our first class here, we have some ‘experience’ with AG – foundation classes at other online school and in-person classes.>>
Fantastic! I am really excited to see you and Fly!!!
Tracy
Hello and welcome back! He is ready for the bigger sequences and I am excited to see you both!
Have fun!
TracyWelcome back! I am excited to see more of you and Taq! These are getting closer and closer to running real courses and I think you and she will have a blast!!!
Have fun 🙂
TracyWelcome back! You and Rouz looked so great in MaxPup 2…I am excited to see what you do with these games! She is going to be ready to trial before you know it!
Have fun 🙂
TracyWelcome! I am excited to see more of spicy In Synch! The Pap mixes are FUN and yes, big personalities LOL!!!!! Have fun!
>> their anyway of having list of enrolled courses in reverse order of enrollment rather than having to scroll thru all the time.
On the My Recently Enrolled Courses page, they should be sorted started with most recent. Is that what you are looking for? If it is not showing up like that, let me know and send a screenshot!
Hi!
>>– Duh!! If I had a nickle for every time I coached someone about setting their dog up at the startline on the line to the next obstacle I could…..well….now for me to remember it for myself>>
Ha! This is relatable LOL!!!!!
>> I found myself last weekend just giving him an OK, he blasts out and I wanted to “scream” sit, because of our discussion I stopped myself. >>
Good catch!!! Yes, that could totally have an impact!
>> when you are interrupting behavior or putting a stop to behavior? – More interrupting, I think. Guess I’m not completely sure of the difference……doesn’t interrupting stop the behavior?>>
I guess the intention would be different: interrupting is more like “hey buddy, come here” and putting a stop to it is more urgent like “I WILL SHIV YOU IF YOU DON’T STOP RIGHT NOW” hahahahaha
>>a couple of weeks ago I started some with the puppy and thought it would be fun to play with Sly as well. Took him a minute to remember the game but once he remembered we had a blast. I added a new dimension……layer an obstacle >>
Fun!! This is great!

>>His mat behavior has always been a down so not sure if asking him to sit on it would create confusion/stress?>>Yes – don’t change the mat behavior. You can change the stay-on-the flat behavior to a stand or down or mix it up!
>> What if instead of his mat I use his platform that we used in the jumping skills class? That has always been a sit and we do sits on in several times a month – it’s kinda become one of my easy core exercises for him. >>
Sure! It doesn’t slide and is easy and fun!
>>I’ll just cue a “wait” and he gets to choose position. He’s almost always in a stand when I do this and he’ll choose to stay in the stand>>
I do this a lot too – I cue they wait and the dog chooses the position. It has really strengthened the stays!
>And my husband is actually starting to understand (and do) some of the stuff I’ve been telling him to do with both of them…….. YEAH!>>
That is awesome!!! Family harmony!!!
Keep me posted :)
TracyHi! These looked great! You are really getting into the zone of driving through the handling. We are now at the finishing stages of just how long and how much cue she needs. This is exciting!!!!!
The 3 runs you did were a Goldilocks game: run 1, not enough. Run 2, too much!
Run 3? JUST RIGHT, loved it!First run: you were rushing a little, so you needed one more step at :16 (one more step to 4 before the layering) then one more step to 8 too. You needed to get more on the RC line at :24 – there was too much shoulder
pull to the left turn side before the RC so she started to turn left then had to adjust, thus the wide turnAt :34, you were too quick to leave the threadle, so don’t leave the threadle til she looks at the jump like you did at :45. And one more step needed to get :15 at :49.
Think of it as seeing a certain “window” like in flyball: looking for a specific behavior that cues you to do the next think. So for the threadle, it is the head turn to the jump. For the RC, it is as she exits the tunnel and looks at the jump, you drive to the center of the bar. For the wrap at :15, you face forward as you decel til you see the ‘crunch’ of collection (more on that below). It will make it a lot easier for you to get the timing if you think of it like that 🙂
On the 2nd run, you over-helped a bit in spots: too much go on 4 at :07 so she was very wide (correctly, good girl, you did tell her to go LOL!)
At :16 on the RC, definitely too much pull to her left (and your left verbals sounded like they were still going as she exited the tunnel so she wrapped instead of doing the RC
Fantastic job continuing there!!!Excellent patience on the threadle after the weaves! Nailed it!
You were too quick to leave 15 at at :28 – look for her cue to you to go: decel facing forward til she is past you and ‘crunching’ into collection… then when you see the crunch as her feet lift, do the rotation and leave. It will get easier and earlier as she gets more experience.Video 3: LOVELY! She started to smoke you by the end o you switched to rears – it is great to be able to make adjustments like that! YAY!!!
So rather than try to handle fast, think of looking for her “windows” (behaviors you need to see before you can move to the next spot or the next part of the cue) and handle based on those!
I love that Kyla ran her (IN A SKIRT TOO?!?!?!? Impressive! She looked really good! It is so fun to see the dogs work for other handlers. Kyla will be wanting a whippety sport mix soon they are addictive LOL!
Great job on these!!!! Onwards to the next one (look for your windows!)
And I found out yesterday that I *will* be coming to the flyball tournament in Canada!!!
Tracy
