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I am glad you had fun with the layering! We are starting layering skills early with the pups because it is sooooo popular in course deign nowadays š
Video 1 – the turns to his right looked great, he had no trouble finding the jump and layering. He had a little more trouble turning to his left: the turn itself is harder for him and the dog walk *right there* is a giant visual that requires brain processing (and bear in mind that as an adolescent dog, he actually has *less* bandwidth to process that than he did as a puppy or will have as an adult.)
>>When he goes around the jump, is it right for me to call him back and get him to take it? I donāt think I did it in a demotivating way, but you will tell me, lol! >>
You lived by the 2-failure rule on this video: didnāt allow for more than 2 failures and helped him out. You can also use a line up cookie and re-start the rep, rather than āfixā it. That way he can get the line up cookie (which maintains a high overall success rate) and also you can set up the skill in flow. And you were very nice about calling him back.
>>Also, when he goes around it, to me it seems like he is focusing on the toy toss and not just looking at me.>>
I believe what you were seeing there was him processing the pressure and visuals of the situation, not the toy throw. The visual of the DW (which is a massive processing challenge even if he doesnāt actually know what the DW is LOL!) plus you pressuring into the line at :52 plus the new layering skill of the tunnel between him and youā¦ all of that requires processing so he was definitely processing it. But he wasnāt not always able to process it in time to go over the jump. So you can slow down your motion, or work the other side without the dog walk there so it is one less element for hims brain to process.
The 2nd video went well too! Note how much easier it was for him turning to his right with the dog walk thereā¦ easier to process in that direction! He was great about ignoring the available tunnel entry and going to the jump.
One suggestion: when sending around the start wing, donāt use your wrap verbal followed by the layering. The wrap should get the super tight turn that brings him to the tunnel. You didnāt use it on all the reps, but we want to be super he doesnāt learn to ignore the wrap verbal for when you will want the tunnel and not the layering š
Only one little handler blooper: at 1:07 you said left left but were late with the cue, relatively stationary and then turned and didnāt say tunnel so he was very literal and just turned left LOL! You donāt need to fix that at all – he was correct. Good boy! The rep after that looked much clearer.
Great job here!!
TracyGood morning!
Thanks for your patience waiting for feedback! I spent Thursday evening and all day Friday driving from Wisconsin to Florida. Letās just say that this country is very, very big. LOL!
Great job back chaining the ladder grid. She was reading it with the bounces in each gap, no problem. So now we can get more power and propulsion. The PT being relatively close was making her striding more casual (for lack of a better term in my not-very-caffeinated-state) because there is no sense driving hard to a stationary food robot. So you can move it further away and see if that adds excitement. Or we can go to the moving target/dragging toy or food bag. That will definitely add impulsion! She is not struggling at allā¦ I just want to et her more pumped up so she can sort out the mechanics of how to do this with power and arousal.
>>Had a moment where she was having trouble sitting on my left so we did a spin trick and then went back to the right. Later she was fine.>>
I think maybe she lost her train of thoughtā¦ I can totally relate LOL!
>>(I claim Invitational hangover as my excuse for that one!)>>
Ha! That is valid – I donāt know how you have the physical or mental energy to do such good puppy training sessions at all this week!
Toys before & after and food during a session works great! The food in the session can also get lots of fast, efficient reps while the toy brings the excitement to the game.
The session itself was super successful – yay! For at home training, you can add challenge by turning the tunnel so the entry is directly facing her. You might need to use a weave pole asa jump bar for that to have enough room, but I think she will be fine with that š
The serps versus tunnels went really well!
>>I should have rewarded a 2:40 ā in my head my arm was back but clearly it was forward and indicating the tunnel and then moved back too late >>
Yes, but when in doubt you can use a line up cookie on the next line up and stay, so that can balance out any possibility of having withheld a reward by accident.
For the first threadleā¦ I think she was shocked LOL! āThis was a serp game, human!ā So you can take a break in the session, throw a toy or treats around, then come back after some play to show her the threadle as the first rep of a ānewā session That might help her see the threadle right away. After that first rep, she was great with the threadle too.
You can start adding some harder angles for the serp and threadle, very gradually moving her more and more towards center of the bar as the starting position. It might take a bunch of sessions to inch her over there while maintaining a high success rate, but eventually she will be able to find serps and threadles from crazy angles.
Great job!
TracyGood morning!
Thanks for your patience, I spent Thursday night and all day Friday driving from Wisconsin to Florida. Eek!
He did really well with his teeter game here!! The round target might actually be too big for his little feetā¦ you can try something smaller, like a folded over piece of duct tape š I am glad he was offering the 2 paws and bow! That will make for a great end position on the teeter.
The tandem turn session also went really well!
On the wing – this will be easier to practice if you start him in a stay and take a step or two ahead of him. That way you can how him the cues before he starts to move and before he gets ahead of you. Moving with him was delaying the info, and you can see the turns were smoother when you were ahead on the next two elements of the game. (The other option is to be done with the wing-only element and now only start with the tunnel š )
Starting from a stay at the tunnel exit made things much smoother! You can show him the arm cue before the release – just be sure to make the release and arm cues not happening at the same time so he doesnāt start to think that the arm cue *is* the release.
Adding the tunnel went very well! Since he is āblindā in the tunnel, you can start the hand cues as soon as he goes into the tunnel. That way he is guaranteed to see the cues before he exits, making for great timing.
Since the physical cues are going so well, time to think about verbals! When the tandem turn is on the front of a jump, you can use your regular jump directionals. When it is on the backside of the jump, you can use your threadle wrap verbal. For this game, since there is no bar, we can use it to add your threadle wrap verbal.
Great job here!!!
Tracy
Hi!
I throw chunks of string cheese for my dogs or freeze dried salmon treats (they are very visible too). Charley Bears are visible as well!Tracy
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>>I donāt think Iāve ever really considered where my position is when I cross so that my dog knows which way to turn.
You are probably doing it naturally š because your dogs are turning the correct direction. Being able to push harder on the RC lines will help the harder RCs get the correct turns too.
Hi!
>>So about the rear crosses. So is that the correct position for a rear cross? Or is that just what Kashia needs to be able to read the left side? Like should I already be near or on the left side when sheās going into the tunnel just in general if Iām waiting her to turn left? >>
Generally, yes, the rear crosses are greatly helped when we set them from a little further back and drive up the pressure line so the dog can see us moving to the left side, if we want them to turn left for example. On jumps, it is easier for the dogs to read the info if we aren’t perfect. But on a tunnel, the RC info needs to be visible very early or they will turn the wrong way.
T
Good morning!
Good morning!
The rear crosses are definitely tricky with timing! When she turned the wrong way on the left turn rear crosses (like at :16, :37, :45) when she entered the tunnel, you were still on the right turn side of it. So you position override the verbal there.Compare to the successful reps, like 1:26 for example: you were right on her tail from the moment she left the wing wraps, so she saw the RC info before she entered the tunnel and was able to turn left. So you can be pushier on the line and get really close to her while she is still 10 feet from the tunnel, so she can see all the info before entering.
Lead outs video –
>>However, I think itās still great to practice and Iām not saying Iāll never use it or need it. Just giving my back story on my inexperience or use of lead outs>>
True! You might not need lead outs now, but I agree it is good to practice in case you want to add them in (and in practice it gets you way ahead to practice handling).
She did really well! She has a really good stay! The blinds looked great! She also read the lead out push really well too. For both of these, you can ad a little more positional cue to get an even tighter turn: for the blinds, be running towards 3 the whole time (donāt go anywhere near 2).For the lead out push, you can be more between the uprights of 2 when you release her, which shows her the turn to 3 even sooner.
I think she totally remembers the turn aways! Super!! And your cues were very clear. The lap turns worked great when you were rotated and facing her when she exited the tunnel. There was one rep where you were a little late so she went to the other side of the wing but the rest were great! You can add in the tandem turns (where you face forward instead of facing her) and that will lead nicely into the threadle wraps!
On the zig zag video – the visual on the first rep must has looked weird to her because she broke her stay and didnāt take the jumps. Nice adjustment to support her line with motion! When you revisit this one, you can flatten then angles a bit by pulling the outer wings a few inches away fro the inner wings – that will add more challenge for sure.
Great job! Enjoy your week away, I hope it I something fun and relaxing!
Tracy
Good morning!
>>Do you have a suggestion to help me with her placement. This is something that I am struggling with her on when I line her up at a start line.>>
The 2 things I would suggest would be a cookie lure to start with (that eventually turns into a hand cue to line up where you want her). Or, you can teach her to line up between your feet – that way you can stand where you want her to be, she runs through your feet, and then she is in the perfect spot š
Video 1: she was responding really well to the physical cue here! You can use her name less and her directionals more, for the wraps and also for the tunnel threadle. The will help solidify them for when you are not ahead of her or when things are moving faster. It sounds like you had the verbals added in the next videos!
Step 1 and 2 and 3 looked good. One suggestion is to let her turn herself away to the tunnel threadle when she see the cue, rather than you cuing it – that way
ou donāt have to do 2 cues there (come in and go out ) and she can just drive to the correct tunnel entry.Looking at the video that had the little blooper: It looks like you were earlier with the rotation at :06 (when she got it right) and your arm was more visible. At :22 when she went straight to the tunnel, you were facing that end up the tunnel longer and your arm was not as visible.
Compare that to the last video where your threadle arm was very visible and you turned sooner, so she got it really nicely. So on the harder side (or on both sides, when you add more speed š) you can make the arm cue really obvious and also turn your shoulders before she arrives at the wing before the tunnel, so she sees the new info before she exits the wing.
Nice work here!!!
TracyGood morning!
Super job with the blinds and lots of good stay rewards mixed in too!
The first several reps had good connection but where a tiny bit late (starting as he arrived at the wing). You were them working on doing the timing earlyier, which is great!
On the reps where he did not take the wing (:45 and :56), it was not a timing question about the blind, it was more that you were looking forward when he exited the tunnel, so he never got a commitment cue for the wing (and he drove to you instead).Compare to the rep at 1:07 which was at the same timing as :56 (he was a little less than halfway to the wing) but you connected at the tunnel exit so he knew to commit. That made the blind tay!
The race tracks looked easy peasy! For extra giddy up š you can add in taking the race track around ll 3 wings, including the one near the camera.
Great job!
TracySince she loves tennis balls, you can cut a hole in the hollee roller and put the ball inside it. That way she can play with the tennis ball without potentially hurting her shoulders trying too grab it of the ground at top speed.
T
Hi!
>>I do something like this when JJ goes to eat. She is not allowed to move her feet when her bowl is put down or it comes back up.>>
This is perfect! You can use her food bowl game as a lateral lead out game š
The zig zags are looking really good!! Yes, she bounced all of them except the one rep at :20 in video 3 (if that happens, you can repeat the rep and see if she can adjust the footwork).
My only suggestion is to line her up next to the wing just like the zigzag game in maxPup 2 and not facing the center of the bar, so she is turning a bit sideways over the first bar and not going on a straight line. That will truly get the side to side movement we see on serps and slices and backsides.Great job here!!
TracyHi!
For the grids – yes, starting her closer as you mentioned will help her power through the line because she will come in pushing from her rear. For now, lower the bars too – they are a shade to high so she is having a little trouble balancing (note how she was using a high tail to try to balance). Maybe a 6 inch bar for now, so she can get comfortable with the balance and with starting up close to jump 1.
The layering is going great!!!
She was surprised but the first tunnel cue (probably because the toy had ben thrown there) but then she was great on both sides! Super! You can add in a tight turn on the start wing and then cue th tunnel and NOT layering š And you can add a little bit of distance between the jump and tunnel so she is taking her layering still to the next level
Find the jump game is also looking good! You can tuck in even closer to the tunnel, so she can drive ahead of you on the āGO!ā Moments and also so you can get on the RC lines even more immediately.
Thanks for leaving her bark/lunge moment in the video!
Her bark/lunge at the person & dog is an anxiety behavior (the best defense is a good offense, for example). You can see the anxiety in her lowered body, pinned ears, and uncertainty as to whether she should go forward or back. Getting mad at her might suppress some of the barking/lunging but donāt reduce the anxiety, so she will still bark/lunge.
So when you see any potential triggers approaching, like a golden or a stranger appearing – stop the sequencing, for example, so go into the pattern games from MaxPup 1. Donāt wait for her to be triggered, start it as soon as you are aware the person or dog is there. If she is already reacting, you can just gently go get her collar (but not correct her by the collar as that adds anxiety – we just want to add distance), move her further away, and then start the pattern game.
Separately, however, you can have her on leash doing the pattern games with super high value food, so she learns to ignore the people appearing or dogs that make her uncomfortable. That will reduce the anxiety and the bark/lunge will go away. We want her to be very fluent with the pattern game and have lots or practice ignoring people and dogs.
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Great seeing you too! Congrats on all your success!!! And Contraband says thank you for the good thoughts, he is feeling better.>>I was so happy with this session.>>
SAME! It was fabulous! SUPER high rate of success – your handling was really clear and she was really driving to find the jumps.
She did really well with the one jump serp. And also great with the 2 jumps. She had a total of 2 questions:
– She missed the jump at 1:08 when you were too far ahead (past the 2nd jump) so the serp cue was not that clear. She was great with all the other reps when she can see you in serp position between the uprights.
– at 1:36 after the serp jump, you turned forward so she passed jump 2. Compare to 1:47 when you kept your shoulders open and she was perfect š
Adding running was hard so you got some interesting jump form on the first rep but then she sorted it out perfectly. Super!
So you can add in the tunnel now. That adds more speed for her so you can dial back your speed and start with th jumps a little angled so she can be successful.
Great job!!!
Tracy
Hi!
You can tweak the game to get the benefit without any potential risk:Lower the teeter so the highest end is maybe 2 feet off the ground. Prop it up like the mountain climber and do everything the same… but if they get a little wild, there is no giant leap off the teeter. You can also use a treat at the top of the board that they have to lick (like cream cheese) so you can get to the end then gently help them turn around to come off the plank.
Let me know if that helps!
Tracy
