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Good morning!
The spin session went great! Most of the reps had lovely lovely connection and timing from you, so she had great commitment on almost all the reps! No worries about the rep towards the end where you had a few extra wraps LOL She was happy to keep going 🙂
On the very successful reps (which was most of them here), the timing/connection that worked great was when you were connected and decelerating into the turn, but you didn’t start the FC or spin until after she was past you and heading to the barrel.
She had a couple of reps where she came off the barrels (1:41 to 1:51, and at 4:18). On those reps, you were stepping back into the FC/spin as she was arriving at your leg. That was too early, so she came off the barrels. Letting her get past you was definitely the sweet spot.
>Waiting for the cue to start is overrated in her opinion though.
Yes HAHA!!!! You can mix in stay rewards. This game is easy to accidentally pair motion into the release, so mixing in rewards for holding the stay can help convince her that waiting for the cue is cool too 🙂
Threadle slices:
>Unfortunately threadle slices for the manners minder are still not going well. She still does not seem to understand. >
I read this before watching the video and I was expecting a really poopy session LOL!! Not at all! Things went really well. She is getting it! I have a couple of suggestions for you:
>she really didn’t want to come in to the hand and does some avoidance>
It might be more boring than it is an avoidance behavior 🙂 She is half BC and half sighthound… neither breed is wired to drive in hard to a stationary handler facing them. But she was doing it!
For an anti-boring moment, you can tug with her after each MM reward. That way we begin to pair in the stationary handler position/go to MM with the WOOHOO tug party and running around. That will also keep arousal higher, so she is less likely to look around at all the interesting things in the environment.
For some reason she only wanted to turn right here – the 2nd side was the left side so it was harder. Was it because she is currently more right-sided? Or because the left turns were the 2nd side, so she was in right turn mode? No worries, you can separate the sessions:
The first few reps on the first side were really strong – the rep at :52 was GREAT, so I suggest ending the session there. Don’t go past 4 or 5 reps in a session where you are stationary… then break it off and go do something wild and crazy 🙂 Then let latent learning work its magic. Even a 2 minute session might be too long for this type of behavior, so limiting the # of reps to 3 or 4 or 5 total can make a huge impact. And since it is not a hugely high priority skill for her age range, we have the luxury of time to build it 🙂
You can also start her on easy angles and angle the jump a bit, so coming to your side of the jump is easier: the wing closer to the MM gets angles towards you and the wing further from the MM gets angled away from you, so the threadle side is a bit more visible.
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Good morning!
Find my face went well!
>This seemed sort of too easy. And ackward lol
>It is supposed to be easy for now 🙂 She did great! We want this alternate behavior to be really well-developed as part of the arousal regulation. So keep re-visiting it, adding more arousal in the form of tugging before you play and also going to new places to play this 🙂
>Before this video starts I had to use a “julee Reynolds” in a kind way of course bc she was bouncing all over the place like she was on scent of a rabbit or something. I realized we had league and there were a bunch of dogs she didn’t know in there. It was quite interesting as I’ve never seen this before>
Ha! Does she have a middle name yet? JULEE LOUISE REYNOLDS! Hahahaha
The tunnel session went great! She was very happy to send her self back to the tunnel. Nice job with the physical and verbal threadle cues!
When you revisit this, you can add in some reps where you do t he FC on the tunnel exit but DON’T do the threadle back to the tunnel – just do a FC and take off up the line past the tunnel entry. That will provide a nice balance and help her remember that we don’t always do 2 tunnels in a row 🙂
Great job here!
Tracy
Good morning!
>Have had almost no motivation to train (or edit videos lol) lately>
That is totally cool, sometimes we need a break and then come back fresh 🙂 And you don’t need to edit videos (because it is a pain in the b*tt LOL!) – you can hit record, do a session, then just post it.
>I feel really behind in the lessons but trying not to worry too much>
You are right on track – you have worked almost all the games and are now coming into the last set of games, which is good timing as we finish February! Perfect!
Threadle wrap rocking horses went really well – the FCs on rep 1 and the spin on rep 2 looked great! Lovely connection from you and lovely commitment from him! Those were a great warm up for the threadle wraps!
He got to the correct side of the threadle wraps very consistently on all of the reps, which is awesome. Coming to the correct side is the hardest part!
One suggestion: add a bit of decel as you are getting ready to turn him away, because that is what helps cue him that the turn away is coming (and will also make it easier to toss the reward to the other side of the barrel).
For example, at 1:41, you had the decel before the turn away and he absolutely nailed it 🙂 Decel is a big part of the threadle wraps. When you were moving fast the whole time, it was harder for him to turn away.
Also, getting the reward tossed in to the other side of the barrel as soon as he turns his head away will help him complete the wraps too! When you did that, he was easily able to compete the turn. Yay!!
Stays – great job working the stays! He is a speedy dude and will definitely need a stay so you can lead out 🙂
He was happy to move into the sit – but he was not as convinced about letting you move away to length duration or distance. So a couple of ideas for you:
He is driven for food 🙂 so we can help him learn the concept of waiting for a marker to end the behavior and release him to move, rather than watching the treat hand – when you tried to move away, he moved with the treat hand.
So you can cue the sit with an empty hand (opposite hand can have the treat). And add a a bit of quiet praise between the sit and the marker/cookie delivery 🙂 to begin adding duration.
To help build ore duration, you can add a clicker for a session or two, so we can give him the lightbulb moment of the marker before the cookie. Then you can add back your ‘catch’ marker – but make sure the cookie hands are totally still as you say it, then toss it. In my inside-my-head voice, I am saying “catch then toss” when working this with the pups 🙂 so I don’t accidentally toss then say catch LOL!!
Great job here!!
TracyGood morning!
>I get some good weather and can be outside again I will redo these exercises. >
It sounds like you are getting more snow? Fingers crossed for spring to come soon!!
>Today Max has a Puppy foundations workshop with Annette Alfonso. >
Fun! I hope you enjoyed it!!!
>I really love this class. When you had your Christmas sale, I signed up for Max pup two but I’d like to convert that to a working spot if they become available thanks so much for the time and in-depth feedback that you give.>
I am so glad you like it! We can take your registration for the older version of MaxPup 2 and apply it to the upcoming MaxPup 2 – that way you can choose your level and add whatever the balance is. The registration opens on Friday so we can get you set up!
Stay warm!
TracyGood morning!
He did really well!
>Kept the sequences short for a high success rate. Didn’t fix any of my handling oopess – wasn’t what I wanted to work on>
He was able to do some really elaborate handling and ignored her in the first video (even when she said ‘nice!’ for a particularly excellent sequence! Lots of great sequence work even though it was not the main focus of the session. Just remember not to mark anything as wrong with an ‘uh oh’ because it is probably a handler error if he is still working the course rather than visiting. For example at 1:12 – you had a big decel and send with layering that cued the tunnel not the dog walk. If you watch it without sound, it would appear that you wanted him to take the tunnel 🙂 And compare to the difference at 1:27 when he did take the DW, the handling cues were different. In that off course tunnel moment, he was not visiting Judith, he was watching the handling – good boy!!
>Also introduced him to a lotus ball on a bungee here.
He seemed perfectly happy to get the treats from it! Was he able to chase the bungee lotus in your hand and maybe even tug with it?
>This one scared poor Judith, sitting right next to the tunnel mouth like that. This was also his only disconnect for the session.>
Ha! That is a lot of power coming straight at her into the tunnel, and he did great! This was the 2nd video and he went to her at the beginning – was this the run video, or the 2nd time out? He was good about going to the tunnel past her and was great about ignoring her on the first video, so I am curious about if he went to check her out first thing, or later in the session.
Since he wants to check people out, does he get to meet and greet people outside the ring? That can also be helpful – visiting them so he can check them out, which can make it easier to ignore them. I don’t think they should give hi treats for now 🙂 but it might e good to add some meeting folks and see if that helps him ignore them.
Great job here! And big thanks to Judith for helping!!!
Tracy
Hi!
Since it will probably be challenging, begin by setting it up on a natural line, and you can back chain it by starting her at the tunnel exit so she knows it is there. Then you can work it by having her go through the tunnel to the grid – then you can change the angle of approach to the hard line after the exit. Let me know how it goes!
Tracy
Good morning!
The countermotion is going really well!!!
One suggestion – he has a lot of value for driving to you, so throwing the reward to the landing side of the jump will build more value of the countermotion. You were rewarding him after he exited the wrap from your hand, which made it a little harder as you moved across the whole jump. So, as he is approaching the bar, you can fling the toy behind you to where he is landing (as you keep moving forward).
That will help him commit even better when you add more motion! And as you add the motion, you can be more connected to his eyes as you walk around the back of the jump. Then after the release when he is moving, let him see you shift from his eyes to the landing spot (more like what you did at :46 and the reps after it, but keep moving slowly past the barrel).
Nice work here!
Tracy
Good morning!
Excellent job here with the threadles!! The position you are in when you release is important – he needs to see you mostly outside the entry wing. When you did that? Perfect! On one rep (:17), you released when you were already between the uprights so he read it like a serpentine. Great job adjusting the next reps so you were more visible outside the entry wing. He was a little hesitant on the rep after the oopsie but then got right back in the swing of things.On the next session of this (and serpentines too), you can add wings. He will really only see threadles on wing jumps, so now is a good time to introduce them. If you don’t have wings, you can use a barrel on each side 🙂
Great job here!
Tracy
Good morning! Super session here: mission accomplished in terms of getting the MM back to the slice line position and getting him to do the threadle perfectly. Yay! He is coming to threadle position and looking for the line over the bar, exactly what we want.
Since you have the behavior, yes – add a bit of motion to things now. A couple of things to remember with it –
on this session, the release verbal came at the same time as the hand moving into position. Since we don’t want to pair hand movement into the release, you can start yourself pretty far from threadle position and move to it with your arm/shoulder already showing the threadle cue. Then just as you arrive in threadle position (where you are still visible outside the wing of the jump), use the verbal release without moving the arm.Since position is really critical, I think you can add a wing jump to this – it makes position a little clearer and also he will really only see threadles on wing jumps. It might be hard to fit 2 wings into the indoor space, so maybe one skinny wing on the entry side, and the wingless on the other side? And since the wing might be new, you can do a warm up with stationary position to show it.
If he is fine with it, you can add movement in that same session. If he thinks the wing is a crazy new addition, do the whole session with you stationary 🙂
Great job here!!!
Tracy
Great session here! He definitely seemed to find it easier to start on the ‘harder’ angle 🙂 And then when you went back to the slice angle… no problem at all doing the serp even with you moving. Your motion was about the same pace as the previous session where he had trouble serping from the slice position – absolutely no problem here. YAY!!!
You can add more motion by going faster (bit by bit) and also mix in threadles too!
Nice work 🙂
TracyHi!
It looks like you have AU-028, which is an older version of MaxPup 2. If you want, we can take your registration and deduct it from a working spot in the upcoming course, and then transfer you into the upcoming course (AU-075). Let me know if that makes sense!Tracy
Hi!
He is looking great in the video here!
>we have been working on leaving the toy with the leash at the gate or on the floor near the end of the run. It is going well.>
Perfect! He seems very happy to run with you whether or not you have a toy or treats with you. Yay!
>> I have included a video of part of a lesson from yesterday.
Really nice work here! You two are looking smooth, fast, and connected 🙂
A couple of small details to consider that are visible on the video but might not have been as clear in the moment:
For the right turn at :53, you can have him approach that jump with the cues earlier and a brake arm (outside arm) so he adds a collection stride before takeoff. He was a little wide and slipped, so the brake arm can really help.
He had a little question on the threadle slice, taking the front side of the jump on the first run. You can call him sooner to get his attention while he is taking off for the jump before it, then give the threadle cue. You had foot rotation on the next rep and then again t 2:43, so you can use earlier turn cues so you don’t need to rotate your feet.
He had a bonus tunnel at 2:10 and that falls into the category of “know where the dog is looking before saying the tunnel cue” LOL!! The outside arm on the jump before it turned his head to the off course tunnel so that is where he went when you cued the tunnel 🙂 Watching his head to be sure he is facing the line you want will help prevent that type of off course line.
>We have the fun match on Sunday so Monday we won’t do our usual lesson.>
Sounds good! Keep me posted on how the match goes!
Great job here!Tracy
Hi! I think these runs went really well!
The first run was really strong! The section from :15 – :24 was especially excellent!! Nice blind!!! She was definitely finding her lines really well. Since you can make up your own course, you can do a stay on the other side of the first jump so you can send her away then be ahead of her on the next line.
The 2nd run had more distance but starting at the tunnel worked nicely. You can drive more on the RC diagonal to the center of the bar here to get the RC at :48 (you were running on the wrap line which is why she turned towards you)
When she gets on a big line and you fall behind (like at :53 – :57) there is no need to use your arm up high – just bend your elbows and run run run 🙂 That is what you did on the big ending line and she got 3 jumps in a row! There was one more jump and she had a question on it, but I was happy with the 3 jumps before it!
This last course was very similar to the previous one. She read the opening line nicely even without a big lead out! You can get on a stronger rear cross diagonal here too (run forward to the center of the bar) and she did GREAT getting almost all of the big ending line!
>I had been worried about how much she has been doing but she seems to be cooping better than me,
then no more shows for a few weeks so will work on startline and exits tunnels and long lines>She does seem to be coping well!!! So after this next show, she can have a break from trials then you can work on your training list.
Great job!
TracyHi!
Thanks for the nudge, I did miss it 🙂>During the trial this weekend, we practiced this outside the ring. I did not get it to tape but she initially had a very hard time releasing the toy. So I added treats after the release and then getting the toy. She started releasing quicker with this and sitting pretty fast. >
Excellent! It was a smart move to get the treats involved – it helps her balance her arousal. Usually difficulty releasing the toy is a tip-off that arousal is edging towards over-arousal, and food can help balance that.
You can also add in the pattern games with treats – they help regulate arousal too!
>I did not attempt it the tug-sit-tug before the sequencing. Should I have? I still wanted to practice it at home some as well.>
Based on what she did in the video, yes – add it in before the sequencing in class. You can do very short lead outs because she is in higher arousal but it is a great opportunity to get her into a trial-like state and do the stay 🙂
Nice work here!
TracyHi! Rear crosses are definitely hard cues because they are not natural or intuitive for the dogs…we humans have to be totally correct in the info for the puppies 🙂
The main goal here is that you put enough pressure on the line to the center of the bar (bump) that he can change directions before takeoff, and so you can be on his other side as he is arriving at the bump.
What does all that mean? You were late LOL! So on the first few reps (:13, :39, :45) you were still on the original side when his front feet arrived at the bump so he turned towards you, like a turn & burn front cross.
On the other reps at :49 :54 :59 and 1:15, the timing of you getting to the other side was still late but you had a much earlier toy throw so he was able to turn over the bump and land the new direction.
(At :27, you were early which pushed him off the line, so he didn’t take the bump)
So to be on time, the easier thing to do will be to start further away – ca be 18 or 20 feet because he is fast! And start very close to him and to the line: you can drop a treat maybe 2 feet behind you and then as soon as he gets it, start moving forward to the center of the bar. As soon as he is past you, do. The RC to get to the other side (then keep moving forward to support commitment to the jump). That should give him the info before he has to make a takeoff decision, and he won’t need the toy throw to help with the turn.
Le me know if that makes sense! Nice work here!
Tracy
