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Great job on these sessions! And yes, it was SUPER windy! I am ready for some warm, calm weather for all of us LOL!!Good job adding more connection to him as he exited the tunnel here: on the first session, you were running looking forward so while he did find the jump, it was a little disconnected. But then your connection was much better on the 2nd session, we could see your connection very clear from the camera angle! Super!
You can add a go verbal for the jump – I think you said over a couple of times but you can also cue the straight line extension with the go go go cue 🙂
>>I found the toy made it too hard for me to rotate to get my magnet arm back,
Yes! It was really big and probably pretty hard to run with. Do you have a toy that is easy to throw that can fit better in one hand? Something like a big hole roller would be great. That way you can throw it straight on the line (rather than have him come to you for the reward).
The thrown reward gets more important as we get you further and further behind – and he is ready for you to start putting yourself more and more behind by going closer to the tunnel after the wing wrap start 🙂
Great job here!!!
Tracy
Good morning!
>>When I need to lead out more than 2 jumps to keep up with J, she turns so that she does not even look at the second jump and so she skips it all together. If I could get her to face forward I could indicate the second jump before the turn rather than her circumventing it. >>
So it is a combination of a lateral distance skill and a stay skill 🙂
Separate it from the obstacles – cue her to stay and put a toy in front of her, maybe 4 or 5 feet in front of her. Lead out laterally (but not too far at first). If she holds the stay AND doesn’t move her feet towards you, release her to the toy (it can also be a food bowl or MM). That way you are teaching her to keep her feet pointing to where cued the stay, and also to release forward to the line. We can build it up from there!
>>in the case of a set of jumps I can see it working well if she finds the toy of a great enough interest to her.>>
That is an important point – the toy or food needs to be high enough value that she will choose the jump on the line to it. Otherwise, choosing a jump or tunnel towards you is higher value and will make it harder to teach her the line.
On the lap turn video – she did a great job coming to your hand! When you are adding more speed and motion, you can lower your hand (bend down so it is closer to her nose level) and also look down at your hand. That will help her see the hand in the sea of other cues and info out there. Your hand was a little high here so lowering it and letting her see it more extended to her will really help when things get even more exciting.
For the tandem turns – this is more of a moving cue, so you can be moving up the line with her as you cue it rather than stationary at the wing. The lap turns are stationary (because you are rotated) but the tandems and their cousins the the threadle wrap are moving cues. She read the cues really well here with you stationary – but motion forward might make it harder for her to see them, so definitely add in walking up the line as she exits the tunnel, and doing the big obvious hand cues you had here.
>>This is not the case if there is something more interesting following a jump that is there or even taking a jump rather than wrapping a wing. >>
That might be motion-induced, where the motion on the line is overriding the ‘smaller’ cues like hands and verbals. So adding in bigger more dramatic hand cues along with the motion on the line should help her sort it out – and be sure to direct your hands back towards her so she can see them very clearly.
Also, to make sure she is really locking onto the hand, you can have it empty or have a cookie in it. The ball or a big toy might be easier for her to see in the moment, but we want to make sure she can do it without the ball in your hand too!
Great job here!
TracyGood morning!
The jump part of the serp is going well – the hard part here was getting the turn on the tunnel exit. It looks like the tunnel exit showed a straight line past the jump, so using a turn cue before she goes into the tunnel will help get the turn. You were calling her and then also aded a left verbal later in the session: the timing of both of those can be moved up to happen before she goes into the tunnel. And, you can walk through it a few times so there is less motion and she is better able to see the line. Once she is on the line, she has it no problem, o it is all a matter of getting the turn on the tunnel exit.
She is also doing well on the threadle wraps! Yay! Only on suggestion: drop the reward on the ‘landing’ side of the wing, so she is consistently looking to go there without as much help from your arms. That will help her turn herself away to the wing. The reward was dropped there part of the time, and the other part of the time it was thrown ahead after she exited the wing. So she was relying on the arm cues to get the job done 🙂
She did really well on the bang game! I am guessing the angle of the board made it harder for her to get fully into the down? That is something we can watch as we add more and more of the teeter skills. If the crouch is a more comfy and balanced position then she can do the crouch instead of a down. The crouch also looked more comfy on the 2nd video, where she was hopping on the side.
>>We also started to try getting on from the side, but I was having trouble figuring out how to get her to the approach correctly and we lost her down & chin rest.>>
I think adding a collar or harness will help, because you can hold her in position until you are ready, then cue her to hop up on the board. That way she is also more balanced getting into position.
You can also try adding more angle to the board you have been using indoors, to see how she does with the down there. It is possible that on a more angled/moving board, the crouch or play bow is a better option 🙂
The rear crosses are coming along really well! She does best with them if you put the RC pressure on the line starting early (as you are passing the previous jump) then maintain the pressure all the way to the bar of the RC jump. If you are late with the cues, she turns to her left instead of the right. But you had a lot of reps here where you got on the RC line nice and early and maintained it, so she did a great RC! The straight line and the FC wrap both looked good too 🙂
>>I am losing her at the second jump and she is cutting behind me. I must be losing connection or turning my back too much?>>
Yes, that is exactly what was happening – you were turning your back away from her as you moved forward, so it looked like a blind cross cue 🙂 And so Bazinga did a blind cross (like at :14 and :37). Compare to 1:09, were you kept your eyes on her and she had no questions about the line.Great job!
TracyHi! I was great seeing you and meeting Vesper this weekend – she is such a great pup!!!
>>When she learned the wing wraps in MaxPup 1, I was using “zip zip” and “choo choo” and that was for a wrap like the puppy does in Send & Serp where they aren’t crossing back over the line they were on when they started the wrap. That’s what I use with Lazlo too.>>
I think it might help define the verbals if you envisioned a jump bar there (or actually put one in 😁) on that start wing – basically it would be lime jump 1 of a 3 jump. So going over a bar to get to the serp jump would be th soft turn left/right. But if you wanted her to jump tighter and come around the wing back through the gap – that is your wrap verbal. Try it with the jump bar and see if it makes more sense?
>>Also, confession time… I haven’t started our “right” and “left” verbals. >>
No worries! It is easy and fun… the minny pinny!! Great for indoor training on a snowy day 🙂
The ladder grid is going well! Her stay looked terrific! She is a little ‘hoppy’ here (up and down rather than forward) but I think it is just because the RT was pretty close (the joys of being indoors). If there is room to try this with the moving target or even a stationary toy, you can try that and how she does. Or, it can wait til the snow goes away so she has more room to stride forward.
Sends and serps looked great! I think you had easier time rotating back to her when she was on your right side, so you can rotate back a tiny bit more when she is on your left.
If you are going to put the jump bar in for jump 1 to think about verbals, rotate the wing here so the jump cups are in line with where the bar would be (the bar is in line with the bar for the jump). That can help you decide which verbals you want to use with a better visual (the bar).
Great job here!
TracyHi!
Great job with the serps! You can open up your serp arm and upper body a lot sooner – you were closing your shoulders forward like a 180 til he was almost at the serp jump, then upping up the shoulders. Having your shoulders face the jump more (center of your chest facing the center of the jump) and sooner will bring him in and also get him turning to the next line even sooner too!Opening the shoulders up as soon as he reaches the start wing will also help tighten up the exit the start wing too.
And since he is doing so well – feel free to add more motion! If he struggle with more motion, you can angle the jump so he can see the bar better. You can start with jogging get faster and faster as he gets more and more comfy with it.
Nice work!
TracyHi! This is all looking really good!!!
The stays are definitely stronger, great job with the mechanics! Your releases forward generally looked good – you can add in praise so he doesn’t predict that the connection after the toy drop is the release (which is what I think happened the one time he broke the stay after the toy drop).
When throwing the reward back, be sure to keep your arms totally still, say the word, then a second or two later – throw. the toy. You arm was moving just before the marker, so he was cuing off the arm movement. That is why he moved before the release the 3rd rep when you arm moved, after 2 catches where you arm moved before the marker word.
The ladder grid is going really well! On this first rep, he was a bit ‘upwards’ over jump 1 but then he had a lower head and better form on all the other reps. For the next session, add in the moving target of the dragging toy on the ground. Drag it slowly for 4 or 5 steps before you release him and see how he does!
Great job here!
TracyHi! It is there – I had it all in purple letters so it was hard to see, so I changed the color to gold. Look for the gold wording:
MaxPup PIT Wingin It Tunnel Threadles And TandemsLet me know if it is still not visible.
Thanks!
TracyHi!
Yes, I am in Wisconsin in a blizzard, so I think sketchy weather is hitting the whole country! Ewww!
>>The one problem i have with lead outs is when I mover to the side rather than go straight out. If I do that she wants to turn and face me sometimes taking the first obstacle our of her field of vision.>>
Do you mean on a slice lead out or where you are more lateral? We can so focus forward work on the first jump so she holds her position and goes the jump. A placed toy can really help her focus on the jump while he move you to al sorts of different lateral lead out positions. If you have a video, feel free to post it so I can help figure it out.
She did well with her stay and finding the first jump here! My only suggestion is to head more directly to 3 as you as coming up the line for the FC and the BC. On both of this (:07 on the first video, L23 on the 2nd video) you were running straight and did the cross on the straight line between the uprights of 2, so she jumped straight then turned after landing. If you can be running more laterally towards 3, you will get a better turn where she turns before she takeoff for 2 and lands facing 3. And you can also do the lead out push more on the line towards 3 – you were on a straight line almost past 3, so you can be more on the line you want her to run between 2 and 3 (as long as you move out of the way so you are not still there when she is jumping 🙂 )
Great job!
TracyHi! SUPER nice session here!!!!
The Spins on 1 wing after the tunnel look great (at the beginning). You can add more running to this skill – take out the second wing and move the first wing 25 feet away from the tunnel exit, so you can work on timing the transition of running in and out of the spin.
Circle wrap to his right looks AWESOME 😁
Nice job moving forward on the line and also connecting after the blinds. He was tight and fast through there! And also great job with your connection on the go tunnel line and keeping your arms relatively low – he had no problem seeing the line.His only real questions were at 1:13 and 1:40 where he was surprised that it was another backside rather than the tunnel. The cue was a little late and there was a lot of acceleration to the wing. When you decelerated into it on the last rep, he did MUCH better. Plus I think he is a righty, and this was a left turn so overall a little harder for him.
Great job here! I think you can add more distance to the circle wraps too by spreading them out, so he can execute this with more speed before and after the wings.
Tracy
We did the circle wraps foundation in MaxPup 1 (week 8 I think? I will go look) when we were clicking for turning their heads away (leading with the head, baby level) then the 360 wraps in the advanced level.
I was SCREAMING for you in that Finals run!!!!! Especially on that last line. Way to go, 2 national championships in 6 months!!!!
Hi!
>>I had no idea that doing that would have such an effect!! I have been pondering my ability to anticipate handling needs in sheep-herding thereby being in position without having to rush and how that translates to smoother movements by me the handler and less stimulation of racing from Prism, and how all this smooth movement between acceleration and deceleration would be better for our team in agility as well.>>
That is a really interesting observation about herding!! And it totally makes sense 🙂
>>I TRY to rehearse the verbals before each rep.(have to move this to a more weighted value system-not just DOING it, but also OWNING it). >>
It might also be how you rehearse the verbals. In the early stages of verbal-ing 😁 I found that if I walked and rehearsed the verbals, then I was not that good at actually doing the verbals. But if I jogged or ran when I rehearsed? I could do it! It has to do with state-dependent memory, so try running and connecting with your invisible dog while you practice the verbals 🙂
>>I’m capable of forgetting something important in the 2 seconds between set up and obstacle 3! I’m very sad about this.>>
Video you walk throughs and we will see what we can add to the rehearsals!
>>Some of my biggest discussions on walk-through is the degree of the turn, whether it’s a tight turn or a soft turn, what line to create. Sometimes, it LOOKS like a soft turn, but with an off course further out, I need to cue a tight turn. Many questions on this with a powerful jumper.>>
That might also be timing: how early does he need to see the cues? Plus, with young dogs, there is extra processing time so the response might be a little delayed, leading to a wider turn.
Tracy
Hi!
Wind in your hair is looking great! She is so cute, really wanting to have a big zoom but holding herself together to be able to do the game with focus. Nice timing with the MM click!! She is totally looking forward and that is exactly what we want. And great job with the lineup on the start wing!
And to answer your question from above:
>>Would using the MM for the RC game be useful to get her to drive forward more?>>
Yes, you can use the MM but when doing a RC, place it out where she would turn on landing. So that means it would be closer to the wing after she exits the turn on the jump.
Looking at the grids – her stays and new release are looking GREAT!!! She is doing super well and there are a couple of things we can add to up the ante:
We can give her more room between the jumps, try 6 feet now. She has a TON of power so the shorter distance was causing her to have to shorten up too much.
Also, to get her to power off her rear, set her up closer to the first jump – a foot or less. She was a little too far back so she had trouble with the ‘step in’ meaning the first footfalls after the release. If she is closer to the jump, she can push off her rear and jump.
The angled jumps were a visual distraction for her on the first rep but then she sorted it out really well for the 2nd rep! Yay!
Great job on these!!!!
Tracy
Hi!
You can try using the highest value tug with the lowest value pocket-lint level food…That night work with the trading 🙂 Keep me posted!!Tracy
Hi!
The Minny pinny is looking really strong! I like how you made the verbals really different from the GO verbals for example. The will really help on course! Great job working the turn aways with placed rewards – he will keep getting stronger and stronger with those turn aways as he gains the understanding and mechanics.
The reward target for the RCs really helped! You can now tuck the target in behind the wing on the landing side, so he doesn’t see it quite as much. Plus you can add in straight line “go” cues to balance the RCs – sometimes cue him to run straight, and sometimes cue a rear cross to the target. And since this is going so well, you can add more distance away from the jump to show more motion – and then add the start wing back in too!
Great job here!!!
Tracy
