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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>>Do you have a preference for 1 video per post (faster to review) or 2 videos per post (fewer posts to review)?
Thanks for asking! If you have multiple videos ready to post, it is better for me to post them all at the same time – that will get them reviewed faster because as I cycle through the difference classes, it might take a longer time to get back into this one.
>>but sometimes when things go well and I’m not expecting a ton of feedback I might have two videos ready to go at once.
You are welcome to post videos that are ready, regardless of if you think they need a lot of feedback or not 🙂
He did really well with the get out game! Using a clear cue to keep him with youis a great way to build value on the balance reps. He did really well on all of them! Yo can move the prop further away which will add challenge to the get out and should (theoretically 🙂 ) make the sticking with you easier.
You can cue both behaviors sooner: as soon as he turns towards you, before he even takes a step, cue the behavior. That way he has more time to process and execute. You can also start to fade out the help staying with you, and see if he will just stick with you when you don’t cue the get out (to help make staying on the line with you the default behavior rather than peeling away for obstacles off the line).
Great job here!!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Happy New Year!
>>I haven’t fallen off the face of the earth (lol) Its been a busy month with family health issues, Holidays ect so I am a bit behind.>>
I can totally understand about it being a busy time. I hope all of the family health issues are resolving easily!
>> I came up with a lid to a pasta jar. BINGO it worked issue resolved .. >>Good catch about the peanut lid and I am glad the pasta jar lid worked so well!!!
>>> he is able to start right in without going back to baby refresh and the cone is about 3 feet from me. He is a amazing fella in his learning. I thought my Toby was a fast learner but WOW Sealey has him beat!!>>
Awesome! That is really exciting!
>>Now another wild question cause I feel like I am missing something when teaching Sealey to stay I have watched the video several times and I am getting this amazing stay but do we put a cue word “stay” or hand jester or we are just walking off when we have them sit .. >>
I am glad the stay is going so well!!! You can put a stay verbal on it if you want to – you don’t need to, but it makes us humans feel better 🙂 I totally say “stay” and I think my dogs just roll their eyes LOL because sit means stay… so maybe stay means “I am moving away now”. But you don’t need to.
>> Its probably a stupid question because something is working in my Good canine citizen class he is the envy of everyone else in his stays. But I can’t explain it on how I am doing it from your video..>>
Not stupid at all! Basically, the games teach the pups that the sit cue also means stay-until-released/rewarded. So theoretically we don’t need an additional cue to stay… but it makes us happy to it is fine to do it.
You don’t need a hand signal. Just be connected and lead out and he will be fine 🙂
>>Although we are a bit behind than everyone else Sealey is really picking up these games and now I am incorporating the handling moves with out objects in hands when I call him to come inside I will do a blind or a front. Did get a tandem in one day and wasn’t sure how I did it (lol) Since its been hard to do some of the homework. Been trying to incorporate where I can so he is getting something daily.>>
That’s super clever! I love it! Throw it in wherever you can!!!
>>I am still pondering what I am going to use has verbals for all these different serpentine and throttles.>>
You don’t need a special verbal for a serp – you can call him or say jump. I sometimes say “left” or “right” or if it is a really hard exit, I might use a wrap cue. But that is pretty rare an generally I just sue the name or a jump verbal. Threadles are different: A treadle-slice verbal is really helpful, and a treadle-wrap cue will be too!>>Next and last question in the resilience game where you walk the puppy around an unfamiliar area letting him smell ect .. Is there a point that they are sniffing to sniff n locate free treats left , stress to be in building/class or situation , needing to go potty >>
The point of a resilience walk is to let the dog explore the world 🙂 It is great for their brains and body chemistry. They don’t have to do anything and it is generally out in the world. I personally don’t do resilience walks in the ring because I want a different conditioned response to that environment.
>>Sealey’s nose is on the ground all the time at our dog club and I can’t get him to focus on me while healing . I mean the whole time we are trying to do healing exercises his nose is plastered on the floor.. Doesn’t do it for stays or recalls ..>>
Sounds like he needs more exciting and more motivating reinforcement for heeling 🙂 You can use explosive tugging games are rewards (I have done heeling with a toy tucked into my arm pit, then dropped it to the dog for the reward then tugged :)) I also go to really high value food reinforcement if the dog is struggling: my youngest girl dog struggled in the flyball environment so I trained her in classes using Egg McMuffins from McDonalds. It took exactly one reward and I had her full attention, and never lost her attention LOL!
Let me know if that makes sense. Keep me posted!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Same here, I am not a fan of cold. I like heat!>>1. Not as connected as needed, 2. Late in my indication of the jump, 3. Trying to figure out holding the toy correctly.
Yay for video review!!! I will rank the FCs in the order of quality if ELC 🙂
1:17 was my favorite here, because your opposite arm was most across the body and visible, and your dog side arm was back and out of the way 🙂
1:42 was my 2nd favorite (2:04 as 3rd favorite) – they were similar to 1:17 but not quite as clear.
The reps at :12, :37, and 2:38 were not as clear – your reward hand (opposite hand) and dog side hand were both in front of you and not back to her, so she was seeing more of your back and not a lot of connection (wider turn here). And 2:19 was least favorite because you took off and ran without a lot of connection 🙂 She read the line based on motion and context, but you can exaggerate the exit line connection with the opposite arm (left arm in this case) across your belly to your hip as if showing it to her, with your dog-side arm pointing back to her as well.
You might find it easier if you are more upright and not leaning forward as much? Think of it as showing her the connection cue rather than trying to get a tight turn – the tight turn will t take care of itself with the clearer connection.
The short was marked private – can you switch it to unlisted? Thanks!
Great job here!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
This went really well! She was flying! Lots of good stuff here 🙂Nice job on the lineups and the send to the wing! At first it looked like you were not really trusting her to commit to the wing so you were waiting a little longer than needed. You got better and better at taking off earlier and earlier, but maintaining connection really well. SUPER! You kept the regular connection when she was behind you and when she was ahead – she had no questions on the line.
One small detail:
You can have the remote in your hand so you don’t have to reach into your pocket (trying to run with your hand in your pocket can inhibit running).She was distracted by something at 2:30-ish. If that happens, you can break off the session for a moment, do some tricks for treats to get her back in the game, then go back to the sequence. That way you don’t end up physically trying to turn her head or get her to line up. That way you can trust she is fully engaged and ready to go. She did do the rep nicely, but you will want her to offer engagement rather than have to physically help her.
Great job here!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterThis last one went really well too, especially your exit line connection on the very last FC – gorgeous! Keep working on making that eye contact after the crosses, it makes a HUGE difference for him!!
Great job on all of these! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterThis is the same as video 5 above – let me know if it was supposed to be something different 🙂
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterThis is the same as video 5 above – let me know if it was supposed to be something different 🙂
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Your ‘regular’ connection here looked really good, so he had no trouble finding the line. Yay!As you add the FCs into sequences remember to add the exit line connection too – after the FC at :04 and at :07 especially. At :07 you were pointing forward, which breaks connection and turns your shoulders away from the line, so he went around it.
You used a little more motion to the jump there at :18 on the 2nd video and he got it, but more connection will allow you to also use more distance
Nice job getting the FC at the end of video 3!
Video 4 – really good connection for the FCs – keep trying to keep the dog-side arm back and looking across yourself to make connection at the very end (:22) you were looking ahead a bit and not back at him, so he missed the jump. He is a very honest dude LOL!
That happened at :05 on video 5 (not enough connection back to his eyes) but compare it to :10 and :13 where you made much more connection and he had no questions. Yay!
On video 6, I think you were trying for a spin – no worries, you can still reward him as you figure out your mechanics.
You nailed it on video 7! Love the exit line connection here!!!!!Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
You did great here! Vicki’s coaching of Front Cross then Blind Cross was spot on – that is exactly what it is. As you get more comfy with the spins, you will be able to do them faster but for now, keep focusing on the proper mechanics like you did on videos 1 and 2 here – nailed it!Videos 3 and 6 were normal blind crosses – you had super exit line connection so he had a gorgeous turn and no questions about where to go.
Videos 4, 5, and 7 were front crosses – also lovely! On video 7, you almost transferred the toy to the dog-side hand but caught yourself and maintained great connection. Yay!
Super great job with all of these!!!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Hope your hip and rotator cuff are healing well!!
The video is listed private so Youtube won’t let me see it. Can you change it to unlisted?
Thanks!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
This one was another round of the FCs and exit line connection – I think the regular connection to support the line to 2 was much better, which made your timing better (check out that gorgeous turn at :49!!) and you also had super clear exit line connection: from the camera angle you can see your eyes and the arm across the body. And he was perfect on those!Look at 1:24 where you were not looking at him – you were looking ahead of him – and he had a big question about taking jump 2. Then at 1:40 you had much better connection, so his question went away. Super!! So definitely keep up the regular connection and exit line connection you had here – looked GREAT!!!
Nice work! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterThis video was the regular connection on the straight lines with you behind him for most of the reps – nice connection!!! He had no questions about driving the line even when he needed to get way ahead of you. Yay! This is the regular connection to use on the line into the FCs too!
Great job 🙂
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
This video was ELC on FCs – we can compare it to the 3rd video here (which was on the other side).He had some questions about commitment and how tight to turn here. The commitment questions like at :42,1:18, 2:10, and 2:25, there was not enough connection (you were looking forward) so he was not sure if he should commit or not (several refusals here).
Better connection will also help with earlier timing (:16,:58, 1:52, for example, the turn was starting after he was in the air) so when he lands from 1 and looks at 2, you can start to decelerate then do the wrap before he takes off.
And then after the FC, you can show more of the arm across your body – at :17 and :59 for example, you can see more of your back so he was not sure where to go. It will literally feel like showing him the toy or treat in the opposite arm. You did more of it at 1:32 you did it and he had a nice turn!
Comparing to the 3rd video (see below) you were much more connected, earlier, and had great exit line connection – looked great!!!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>I don’t know why but the exit line connection game was very difficult for me.>>
It probably felt hard because it is really hard and not entirely natural (yet) for us humans 🙂 It takes a little practice then it will feel sooooo much easier 🙂
>>It feels like an easy concept but it was difficult for me to emulate. >>
It definitely fall into the “easier said than done” category. I had to walk around my house a lot (without the dog) to practice it when I was first learning it.
>>It’s 100% handler error.
When learning new stuff, it isn’t even error – it is just learning. And as long as you keep rewarding the dogs like you did, everyone will be happy 🙂
After watching the videos: I think you are WAY TOO HARD ON YOURSELF. You nailed it! Every.Single.Time. I was expecting it to need more feedback and work… but really, you nailed it. Happy dance!
Did it feel weird? Probably. Did you have to think about it? Yep. But did you nail it? HECK YEAH! I am sending you a cyber high five and click/treat.
So before you beat yourself up, just post the video so we can see if you need to beat yourself up LOL!!!!
There was only one little blooper pf mechanics: on the 2nd video, you stopped a little too early (plus the ball in your hand was a little distracting to her) so she didn’t commit. But then you fixed it on the next reps.
She seemed to think the big soccer ball was not that motivating in that context, so you can use food for this if it makes more sense for you both! She definitely liked the food, so you can take off and run with the food after the cross and she will happily drive to you. So keep going with what you did (practicing the mechanics – it produced LOVELY connection) and it will get easier and easier 🙂
Great job!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Yep, it was not the blue jump – it was motion. When you were already turned and facing the line and moving as she exited the wing… she ran past it. When you remained stationary and a little rotated to her (:19) she found the line.
But we don’t want her to rely on you being stationary or rotated to her… so continue to send, turn, move up the line, but do it at a walk in that direction and reward between jumps 1 and 2. Then you can gradually add more and more motion. This seems to be a progression that works well for her so we can use it a lot 🙂
>>also tried a holee roller as the preplaced toy, but she still had trouble seeing it.>
The snow and grass probably hid it pretty well, so you can hold her collar and let her see you throw it to the placed spot (or have someone else place for you while she is watching.
>> Calling her and patting my leg worked, for her to find the line, but I don’t want to build that into the normal jumping cue on a wrap like that>>
Calling her is fine but ideally not needed. I am not a fan of leg-patting because if you are patting your leg, you are not really moving – and we need to teach her to cope with motion and still find jumps.
>>but still struggled and found that I got stuck standing around.
No worries! You were working the mechanics so it was hard to run away while doing it – but the mechanics of the ELC are more important than running fast 🙂
One suggestion: work on one cue at a time til you are comfy, then go to the next cue. In the video, you did few FCs then spin then blind then spin so I think that confuses the mechanics(totally makes the brain work too hard :))
At :58 you slammed the brakes so she didn’t commit
On the left turns, some of the wideness was delay of connection – you were doing blinds (not spins) so she correctly stayed on her line until you showed the new connection (good girl!) On the last rep, you did the spin (FC to BC) and that immediately tightened the turn. The timing was a little late because you were focusing on the mechanics so she was a little wide but not worries about tightness right now – it is the mechanics we want 🙂 And for this class, you can ask your videographer to watch you on the camera more than her 🙂 so we can see the full connections.
Great job here!!
Tracy
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