Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
Hi!
I am glad you like the sequences 🙂 I had fun with them too! You should totally set them up outside so you can make them bigger and even faster – that is a great prep for running the big courses!On the video:
Seq 1 – yes, start the switch cue before he enters. As he gets more fluent with it, he will look at you less but for now, you can be at the tunnel exit to help him out.
For the threadle wrap at 5 (:11) now you can add in decel and a blind cross exit to tighten it and keep the bar up. You rotated forward so you were facing 4 as he was jumping, so he jumped long and then dropped the bar trying to adjust
You were way ahead at the tunnel exit for the backside send (:13) so be sure to look at him – he is looking at you for more info there because you were looking ahead.
At :18, call or use a directional (right verbal) and rotate before he enters the tunnel so he can exit turned
2nd run – your timing of starting the switch verbal was great! You left the position too early, though – as he was almost out of the tunnel at :31, you were already fully turned and moving the other way so he came with you. Remember to keep showing the cue until he gives you the cue to leave, but turning his head the new direction.
You were much clearer at :39 and he got it nicely!To get a better threadle line and help with the bar at :41 and also at 1:07 – when he lands from 4, you can be giving him a cue to turn left on 5 so he collects – then you can go to the threadle cue. He is jumping straight based on the cues, then you switch over the bar so he tries to adjust and the bar comes down (also, he was jumping towards a wall there, which does make things harder).
To tighten up the wrap on 7 – as he exits the wing of 6, start to decelerate into the turn so he can collect before takeoff at :45 and 1:12
At :48, stay connected on the send, try not to look at the jump. Much better on the resend there and on the full sequence at 1:17!
The full run at the end was lovely!
Jumpers course –
>>All my usual mistakes are in here. Too much decel at 3 >>
I didn’t think you had too much decel at 3! It was a really nice threadle opening 1-2-3 on the first video. He read it correctly as a slice because your feet turned to the center of the bar a bit (can turn more to the bar to make it really clear). On the 2nd run, he read it as a circle wrap – I am not sure if that is what you were intended (hard to hear the verbal) but your feet were facing forward to the weaves and not the bar, so he was correct to read it as a circle not a slice.
If the dog walk is a big distraction and on his line, block it off, I think that is what you did on the 2nd video 🙂 otherwise you need to handle the weaves like a discrimination.
>. Then that jump after the tunnel, I had the same problem as I had in last week’s course. I also saw this on some video of my last trial. Before a rear cross, I am pulling him the other way before starting the rear so he commits to the opposite direction or straight ahead.>>
Yes, I think the RC on jump 6 was the hardest part here.
At :16-:17 and at :26-:27 on the first video, and :11-:12 on the 2nd video, you were pointing forward with your upper but moving laterally to your left, pushing into his line which pushed him off the line to the jump. I thought you ran forward for longer at :22 on the 2nd video, but pushed in before he was committed so he did not take the jump.So here is a different way to think about RCs so you can get commitment and the correct turn:
Run forward to the center of the bar, connected to him but NOT pointing at the bar, until you see his feet take off to jump it. That should get him committed and turning correctly, without pushing him off the line and also without accidentally pulling him the wrong direction.
Don’t worry about timing, just lock into connection and run to the center of the bar til you see liftoff 🙂
>>Then on my second go, the layer falls completely apart. uugggly. I still have this set up. Should I break down part of it? Take one tunnel out & just simplify the layer?>>
For the layering – the first video looked good! You can use more verbals and also start the turn cues for 9 when he has landed from 8, but overall he was able to get the layering.
On the 2nd video, you tried layering both tunnels and he didn’t really understand it (plus there was a less momentum coming into it because you started right at the 6 jump)- then at :34 you did not connect on the send and you were moving near the blue tunnel, so that is where he went.
Getting him onto the line for the layering involves a lot of connection and motion, so try to use less arm and more eyes and verbals 🙂
I don’t think you need to remove one of the tunnels, you can run between the 2 tunnels once or twice then keep getting further and further away to see if you can layer both tunnels (this is a hard skill!!)
One thing to remember though:
If you stop, you must reward him rather try to restart – he is responding really well so stopping for handler error and be really frustrating to the dog if reinforcement is withheld.After the tunnel layering section – Good blind on 11! You can start the turn cues when he exits 10, with decel and verbal before the blind (you started it as he took off for 11 so he was wide at :35)
For th e13-14-15 section: remember to look at him on sends and keep moving that direction until he looks at the jump (that is your cue to go to the next spot 🙂 He never quite looked at 14 at :39 so when you turned to 15, he came with you.
So I think the main theme for sending is to be connected and keep the cue going until you see him say “I see it!” but looking at and moving towards the jump. That will help get commitment without sacrificing your position on course.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyPerfect! yes, breaking it down will help, and opening up the angles of the jumps too. keep me posted!
TracyGood morning!
>> I used to like serps, I thought I was good at them, in retrospect, it was obviously my Terv girl who was good at serps, it appears I’m hopeless.>>
I am 1000% sure you are NOT hopeless!!!!! Tervs are VERY different than BCs, in that a Terv is happy to come right at you and a BC is happy to stay way out on a line. Serps are HARD with BCs, don’t take it personally!
>>Georgie is so fast, I can’t get ahead, and I think I lose connection on the third jump.
Yes, her speed is a factor that makes it harder. 2 ideas for you:
– Open up the angles of the jumps, so she is having an easier time seeing the line and making the jumping effort
– Cheat to get ahead, so you can focus on your connection and upper body rather than trying to outrun her. By ‘cheat’, I mean you can change the sequence to send her away as much as needed so you can get ahead.>>I just need to bleep out the 4 letter words. Don’t worry, I say them in a happy voice.
Ha! No need to bleep them out! As long as you say them happily then give her a toy, she will think they are reward markers LOL!
>>Georgie also goes out of her mind when I play the videos of our training or your videos, without muting, every time anyone says tunnel tunnel. So I was thinking of working on the pattern games while running the video un-muted. Might not translate to a different environment, but I’m thinking it couldn’t hurt to try???>>
Absolutely BRILLIANT!! Yes!!! And you can start at a low volume, so she barely hears it. That will set up success, then you can gradually turn up the volume, kind of like fading in the distraction. Definitely try it and keep me posted!
TracyHi!
She is reading the forced front cross really nicely! I think the hardest part was the stay – lots of nice stay rewards here! It is really important that the hand movement is NOT the release, so be sure that you don’t put the hand in position and say the release simultaneously. She definitely thought that the hand movement was part of the release, so to change that:
get to position, put your hand in position, smile at her, praise her… then release. If you look back at the video, you’ll see that when you were not planning to reward, you were putting the hand in position and releasing at the same time. Same with the serp arm – have that hand in position hours (in dog years :)) before the release 🙂Great job here, and I am glad she is returning to her normal, post-fake-puppy self 🙂
Tracy
Good morning!
I agree! I felt she was responding brilliantly!>. But meant my treats were off to side so need to manage mechanics here better>>
Definitely put treats in your pocket for each sequence, so you can always reward in the moment without having to get them from off to the side.
If I remember correctly, she also likes toys, so you can carry a toy in your pocket too. Yes, this will bring more arousal but that will be more like how she is at a trial, which can make for very useful training 🙂
See you soon!
TracyHi – These are more forced fronts:
At :09 you released him but didn’t have your arm in position outside the wing, so all he could see was you between the uprights and that is where he went. Reward him anyway – remember that he is mirroring the info he sees, so errors are human errors and not canine errors 🙂 Your hand went into position as he was taking off for 2 at :11At :29, you put your hand in position more clearly outside the wing and just after the release, so he got it right of course 🙂 and then the rest looked lovely!
Nice work on these! Let me know what you think!
TracyThese last 2 videos are the Lead outs to the forced front crosses:
good job rewarding him for your blooper on the first rep! You were much clearer on the 2nd rep so he got it really nicely! Nice serp on 3 to the tunnel!It will also help him if, after the release, you shift your connection and look down to the cue hand – that will direct his focus to the hand as well, which helps him find the correct side of the jump.
T
This is the wrap to the right – At :07 be sure to make strong direct eye contact as you are cuing the wrap jump. if you look forward while he is behind you, he might not commit. So connect strongly until you see him taking off, then you can finish the rotation. It gets easier as he gets more experienced, but for now he needs a lot of connection to support commitment. You were closer to that at :25, so he committed so much better! That set up a nice ending line as well.
Hi –
These jumps are further apart, which is great!
First rep, he needed more connection (very direct eye contact) at :14 as you cued the wrap. That will really help get commitment. Compare to :38 where you looked at him for longer and he committed really nicely! So definitely remember to look at his eyes and not ahead at the jump.T
Hi –
This rep was adding the tunnel before the 2 jump wrap exercise – very nice! When you set this at bigger distances, you can accelerate more as he exits the tunnel, so you can get closer to the wrap jump and so he can see the transition into the decel.T
Hi –
He turned right on this one and I think you wanted a left turn. Be sure to reward him even when things are not what you expected, because he is mirroring the handling info he is seeing. Your position was on the center of the bar of the wrap jump so you released and stepped forward to the center of the bar… that is a rear cross cue. Good boy!Your position at :25 was MUCH better so he was turning left, but you never really connected so he never go ta clear commitment cue (at :27, you are pointing forward and looking forward but he is behind you and not sure where to be) He got a cookie 10 seconds later for the sit, but you can still reward him in the moment for his attempts to read the handling.
Compare those two reps to :45 where you were in the correct position near the left turn wing and connected, so he knew exactly what to do 🙂
TThis one is the Wrap to the left with the spin – wow, nice collection and nice turn! He read it really well with the decel and might not even need you to do the spin (he might only need a send).
TThis rep was also really nice! The cross on the landing of 3 looked smooth. The wrap on 5 was also great – no time for praise there because it delays the next info. When you praised, he was coming towards you but then when you showed him 6, he had a big slip trying to adjust to the line.
T
Hi –
This one seemed even smoother getting to the cross on the landing side of 3, you rotated right into it. That seemed to make it even easier to get the RC on 5. Nice!
Stay more connected on the line back to the tunnel – looking at him more will help him look at the line more and not look at you or tick the bar.T
Good morning! Nice work on these!
One thing for all of these – set the sequences closer to competition distance, which is more like 20 feet (or 7 to 8 big steps for someone like me 🙂 That way he can have more extension and it will be a better way to work on your timing and connection (more realistic for what you will see on a course).
Having the toy in your waistband seemed to help the timing because you didn’t switch it around 🙂Good job on this one, with the cross on landing of 3 and RC at 5 – really nice connection and he read it all well!
