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  • in reply to: Carrie and Roulez #53721
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Great job last night with Audie <3
    These pop outs went well!!

    First pop out - Your push to 2 is good, that is a strong skill for her! You hung out there bit too long on the first rep and backed up a little, too much helping 🙂 The 2nd rep was really nice - committing from further away and leaving sooner, no backing up! Yay!

    Try and quiet your collection cues, whisper them rather than yell them - you'll get more collection with quieter cues 🙂

    To get further ahead and have a faster line, turn her away on 5 (to her left) not towards you. Turning towards you causes you to have to step her towards the tunnel, which points you the wrong direction for a couple of steps. If you turn her to her left and cue the tunnel, you will be running the right direction the whole time!

    On this sequence and the next one(s) - cue the tunnel exit turn before she enters (:14) so that you don't have to manage a wide turn when she exits.

    On the first run, you sent to the back of 8 which does set up the backside at 9
    On the 2nb run - you did a FC on the landing side of 7 which worked but you were a little in the way (she barked at you at :32 :)) A BC would be faster thereAnd you can start it as soon as she exits the tunnel and you are in position.

    Also, you can slice 8 instead of wrap, the slice will be faster 🙂

    Pop out 1
    You had a nice quiet wrap verbal at :41! 1-8 was really good! Yay!

    Give a turn cue before the 8 tunnel to tighten up the turn on the exit so you don't have to decelerate. When she is 6 feet before the tunnel entry, you can already be cuing the exit.
    As you are serping the 9 jump - if you are going to blind, look at landing as you move through the countermotion and don't do the blind til she is also looking at landing - your hand was pointing at the jump but the rest of the body was moving past it at :49 and :57 so she never looked at the 9 jump.
    I don't think you need to blind there - you can serp and push her into the gap 🙂

    Pop out 2 - This sequence is all about trusting the commitment 🙂 Right after I typed that, Jamie said the same thing in the video LOL!!!
    I think your plan was blind 3-4, blind 4-5. The timing of starting that would be as soon as you see her looking at the backside wing on 3 and 4 🙂 The last rep was great! Doing the FC 4-5 actually worked really naturally there - you were decelerated so that was the better choice. So to trust her - as soon as you see her look at the backside, do the cross 🙂 And if she has questions, we can always train more commitment 🙂

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Jen & Muso #53720
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >.Lap/Tandem Turns. Should I be working on tightening up these turns, or will that come with experience? My footwork was not the best here.>>

    I think she has a lot of good understanding here, so we can ramp things up. I am not really concerned about tightening the turns up, specifically, but you will see the turns get tigher if you make these tweaks:

    Remember to use big arm cues on these 🙂 Your arms/hands should be a little exaggerated so you can get her attention and draw her through the turns. Fully extended arms will be very helpful (no bent elbows :))

    For the lap turns, your position was good so now you can extend your hand to her nose more (bending over, arm extended, elbow locked). That will serve as both a specific “this is a lap turn” cue and also as a ‘stop sign’ to get more collection. On most of these, your arm was a little high and a little close to you, so she made the turn on most of them but was a little wide. Look at th rep at :44 – you had a much lower hand, so she had a much better collection 🙂

    On the tandems, you are up at the wing and moving past it, which is part of what is drawing her wide past it. So if you get closer to the tunnel exit and when she is exiting you are maybe halfway to the jump – then you decel and start the cues. That transition will help her collect and make the turn (and your position will be near the wing but not past the wing).

    You can also add more specific verbals (sounds like you were using her name here) – the tunnel exit verbals can be added (so she exits tight, I would use left/right verbals) and also the lap and tandems will be your threadle wrap verbals. Do you already have one chosen?

    At the beginning of the 2nd video, I think the lack of motion was what was keeping her on the outside line – with the speed from the tunnel exit, she was having trouble knowing what you wanted. So the transition will make a big difference (letting her see you decelerate into the cue). Plus the decel and big arm movement will cue the collection – if the motion is the same throughout, she is likely to remain at the same pace rather than collect.

    Nice work with the teeter game! She had a little trouble finding the straight entry from the 90 degree angle, but she did well with all the others! Hopefully you will never see those crazyangles of entry on course 🙂 But this is a great way to get her usong her rear and will help her dog walk too!

    You can now slide the boards in a little closer and tuck them up against the teeter a little more, so they help her a little less as she lines up straight to get on the board 🙂

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Fever and Jamie #53719
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>We played AKC over the weekend. He gave me 2 practically perfect standard runs.>>

    Huzzah! This is great!!!

    >> I’m really feeling weak with him in jumpers on bigger lines and achieving turns. I lose him to off course tunnels on longer lines which I can’t easily replicate in small sequences. I’m glad we got to focus on jumping today.>>

    Challenge accepted! (To figure out how to replicate it in smaller sequences). Do you have videos of the jumpers where you got those bonus tunnels? Post them or message them to me, so I can have some ideas (we have a live class next week and I can totally add some crazy ideas!)

    He is in that challenging transitional period – not a baby dog anymore, has a ton of skills, can really run the big courses, but not yet experienced on the big courses so it is hard to know exacly what/when things need to happen 🙂

    First crazy idea: practice jumping sequences at 8″ because they he is going flat out like he would be on big courses in an air conditioned arena 🙂 Having to handle his speed at 8″ will feel VERY trial-like!!

    >>This heat is kicking my butt. I’m so behind with no heat relief in sight >>

    I swear you all need to move to central VA…. or at least spend the summer here!! Decent temps! Good food too LOL!

    Fever, on the other hand, is doing GREAT in the heat!!! He has come a long way with his heat tolerance!

    Looking at his video and keeping in mind what you mentioned about losing him off course:

    The first sequence (pop out 3) went well! You started with good connection and then went to GREAT connection! The last bar was due to early friz celebration 🙂

    To help get through the big lines, the first suggestion is to do everything sooner – as soon as he says “yes, I see the line!” you can do the next move a step or two sooner – which will both keep you ahead AND give you more line control.

    For example – as soon as you see him looking at the entry wing to the backside, do the blind so it is done before he even takes off for 2 (you did it while he was jumping 2)
    Then when he was on the way to the tunnel, use a verbal and physical cue to get a turn on exit, so you don’t have to stop your motion at all – so he will hear and see your cues about 6 feet before he gets into the tunnel (you had to wait for him at :30 because he turned wide on the tunnel exit)
    On wraps, as soon as he is looking at the jump and past your feet… move forward. You waited til takeoff at :33 which would put you behind on a much bigger line.

    Yes, trying to do everything sooner might pull him off lines but that is good: he will tell us which commitment things he understands, and which ones we can strengthen.

    The other thing you can do is send him away on a big line so you can just scoot to wherever you need to be. An example on this sequence would be at jump 5 – you turned him towards you, which required more management to then send him back out to the tunnel. If you can flip him away to his left there, you can use verbals to get him into the tunnel and then be MILES ahead (being ahead is such a huge advantage!)

    2nd sequence on the video (pop out 1) – also went really well!
    And idea on the turn at 3: accelerate more until he exits the #2 tunnel, then let him see you decelerate and rotate. You were decelerated and ended up getting pretty close to 3 – and he jumped a little wide there because the decel is important for the turn. So if you decel and rotate, you will get the tighter turn AND you will be further ahead (and not accidentally end up on his line which pushed him to the backside).

    One little blooper – he went past 6 at 1:27. Your body was turned away, and I don’t think you used a verbal – he needed more eye contact and a verbal like you did at 2:03, which was really nice!!!!

    Like with the other pop out, give him big turn cues before he goes into he 8 tunnel – that will make handling 9 easier, which means the blind will be sooner so you can show the threadle. If you are a little late (caused by the wider turn on 8), then the blind does look like a front side cue like at 1:40.

    Is ‘look look’ your threadle wrap cue? Your verbal and hands were good, but feet and shoulders were facing the jump. You can try it with turning your shoulder s away from the line then flip him back to it.

    Great job here! Send those jumping videos if you want and we can brainstorm!!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Cindi and Ripley (2 year old Border Collie) #53718
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>Refund is fine if that’s okay.

    I will send the refund right after I post this 🙂

    >I’m also adding some sending behind my back to get him started instead of boring sit stays all the time

    Perfect! It is such a useful skill!

    The sequence work went well here!!

    Looking at the wrap towards you on 4 – nice job working out the decel and position – the more decel and the closer to the wing, the better it went. Being closer to the wing will also set a better angle for 5 – being about an arm’s length away seemed to be the sweet spot.
    On the first rep at :08, he needed a little more decel and proximity to jump. Much better at :31 with the decel!
    The rep at :49 had really good decel but was positonally too far away, so he jumped towards you then tried to adjust oer the bar (dropped the rail). The position at 1:16 was much better and he had a really nice line!

    Totally weird at :15 when he stopped in front of the jump! Since I am fully caffeinated, I watched it in slow motion a bunch of times (yes, obsessing) and I think he saw something like a rock or leaf or something bouncing in front of him at about :15, right where the light gave way to shadows. Maybe he thought it was a cookie? So he slammed on the brakes to grab it (then sniffed for it, couldn’t find anything, then barked at you like it was your fault hahahaha!!!

    I LOVED the flip at 1:33 – so did he, no barking at the momma 🙂 That is a great line for him! He dropped the bar at 1:35 on that rep when you said tunnel over the bar. You also said it over the bar at 1:53 but no bar down – so it is probably a matter of processing the different context, and it will be easier when he gets more and mor experience on this.

    You used flip at 1:33, but then went ot hte left verbal. I think the flip worked maybe a little better, but also being closer to the jump helped him – for example at 1:49 you were pulling away to the same position as the wrap then pushed back to the jump, so he had a qustion (bar).
    That position looked like the right turn wraps and possibly conflicts with the verbal, so you might have more consistent success with a bit of serp position (moving across the bar) with the flip cue (I have isolated my version of the flip cue to mean ‘turn away and layer’ and let me tell ya, it is REALLY helpful!!)

    Great job here!!! Let me know what you think! Are you coming to Zanee/Run Wild camp?

    Tracy

    in reply to: Barb and Enzo and Casper #53716
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Yes, I am crossing all fingers and toes that you get to come to Quad Cities in a few weeks! I hope Ken is healing fast and feeling well.

    >.I think this jumper’s course was much trickier than it looked! >>

    Yes, maybe haha! Partially because there are so many distance elements and so many skills in general, plus sections where “go tunnel” verbal won’t work because there are simply too many options. I think that there is also an element of finding the simplest handling approach on this course instead of doing anything complex!

    >.That’s why I walked forever and stood and stared so much (actual time = 7 minutes and 51 seconds).>>

    Just under 8 minutes is not bad at all for such a complex training course!! I was glad to see you using the layering and switches – incredibly useful skills nowadays!

    Watching the plan take shape, a couple of details popped out –
    remember to make more connection on ‘exits’ so you can be more prepared for the timing during the run. What I mean by exits is all the exits of crosses, and all the tunnel exits. You were tending to look ahead immediately after crosses and tunnels, which means that the timing was not quite planned for (because he would still be behind you) – and that is where errors will happen (trying to connect and time things for the first time, while running the sports car :))

    You can also cue him to come back from the big layering sooner: 9-10 and 19-20. That will get tighter turns, and also put you in better position for the next challenge because both of those spots were followed by something important 🙂

    And also, the 12-13-14-15 line is trickier than it looks – you had it as dog on right but I think he needs more cues there for tight turn info 🙂

    >. After the first run, I was convinced I needed a FC between 20 and 21 but I didn’t get there (hence the little bit at the end to show I knew better)>>

    I agree – more on that below – but 21-22-23 is easier as an ‘American’ threadle from the takeoff side, and a lot harder doing a push-to-RC on the landing side.

    On the run – the opening looked great. I agree that while yes, you can do a German on the 3 jump before the weaves… that is a lot more work than the lead out threadle that worked perfectly on both runs. And also, with the trend on a lot of these courses being HUGE yardage (over 200 yards is becoming the norm) – I like to save my legs for the parts that require running and not ‘waste’ my legs by sprinting into places that can just be a simple lead out 🙂 It makes a big difference on these big courses.

    Also, with his weave independence skills, you could probably get a blind cross between the exit of the 5 tunnel and the 6 jump…. but again, that is a lot more work the the switch on 6 then the send to the layering. That went really well too – he had no trouble with layering both tunnels. Nice job cuing that with the connection and high energy verbals!

    On the 2nd run at 9:06, it looked like you were going to do the FC but then went back to the switch – the rotation was not needed so you can go right into the switch cues.

    He did great with the BIG layering!!! You can really start to trust that and give earlier cues to end the layering. The turn cue for 9 was late at 8:09 and 9:13 – you were facing forward to the weaves while he was jumping 9 so he was wide. Your position was perfect, so the timing was probably a matter of not being entirely sure if he would handle the big layering and stay committed. But since he was great, when he is landing from 8, you can start the turn cues for 9.

    The exit of the 10 tunnel and the line to 11 was a little tricky at 8:13 – not quite connected and moving too much away from 11 the first time, so he had a question. Much better on the 2nd run at 9:16. So that is a spot in the walk through to connect to the tunnel exit so you can practice that timing a bit.

    You can rotate sooner for the 11 wrap, and also I think a soft turn cue (left verbal, brake arm, decel can all help) would tighten up 12-13, which will also tighten up 13-14.

    He had the off course tunnel at 8:27 instead of the 16 tunnel: he was on the line to the off course, turned his head, but then saw the big acceleration and got the tunnel verbal, so went back to the line.
    Based on exactly how it is built, you can make an argument that is appears to be a tunnel-threadle to the dogs! The 2nd time through you did pull him in more – I bet you can also use a threadle verbal for the tunnel if you have one.

    On the exit of the 16 tunnel, he needed one more step on the get out for 17. You did that at 8:45 and it looked great in flow at 9:26! So keep rehearsing the exits of tunnels to get the connection and timing, so you don’t get the blooper on the first run.

    The ending is a little tricky 🙂 Like with the 9-10 to exit the first layering moment, you can call him sooner (after landing of 18) to exit the 2nd layering moment (19-20)

    To handle from the landing side of 21, you can get further across it to serp and push him into the gap to 22 (then rear cross to 23). But the other option (what you did at the very end) was to pick him up on takeoff side of 21 and threadle – that looked great!

    Your position at 9:27 at the exit of 16 is also a great position for the exit of 20 – so you can hang out there and then have an even easier time getting the threadle that you did at the very end! You went towards the entry of 20 and then had to hustle back to get the cross on the exit fo 20 – but if you stayed at the exit of 20 the whole time, I bet you would get a better turn on 19 and have an even easier time of getting 21-22 here.

    Course 2:

    >>Honest, MOM, they were good, except on the first run he dropped #14 and on the second run he dropped #15. Otherwise clean. I probably shouldn’t have just said a bad word and rerun at that time. We were both hot and tired, with the result that the 2 runs here are quite terrible.

    Darned technology fail! So annoying, especially when the first 2 runs were good!!

    >>But I sure wasn’t going to wait a bit and re-run again. Seems way too much like cheating.>>

    Not cheating at all! 2 reasons why it is not cheating: first, after 2 runs, it is too hot to run it again even on a cold day! And second, after 2 runs, our human concentration starts to lapse and also the dogs start to offer different behaviors (“why are we doing it again, is it something different?”)

    The 1-2-3-4 opening looked great! The slice was definitely fast but good to work the wrap too, so it is in the toolbox if you even need it!

    >> I think he went the wrong way around #5 because I was hot and got lazy.>

    Yes – too much pull to you, it looked like you wanted a right turn there. But yes, easy fix! You were much clearer on the 2nd run there.

    The independent weaves gave you great position on the 9 backside. 10-11-12-13 all looked great!

    >.On the second (4th) run, I have no idea why he dropped # 9, especially since I had 10 on the wrong side (making it easier).>>

    You had 10 on the correct side! What happened at 3:20 was that as he was taking off, you closed your shoulder forward but your motion said serp, so he hit the wing with his shoulder. Compare that to 1:26, where you were showing serp motion but your upper body was also showing serp (shoulders facing the bar). So it was the shoulder position that caused the wing hit.

    >> The off-course after 14 surprised me because he had done it perfectly twice before >>

    If you freeze the video while he is over the bar there at 1:37 – you were still on landing side and your feet/shoulders were facing the tunnel. He didn’t see or hear the get out til after he was committed to the tunnel. Compare to 1:51 where he is over the bar – and you are passing the exit wing and every part of the physical cue indicates 15.

    Even with the big layering, he is still really paying attention to your physical cues! After 16: at 1:54, he saw you pulling towards the blue tunel so that is where he was heading. Then as you got around the blue tunnel, he saw the converging pressure towards him, so he went back out to the orange jump (1:55). On the 2nd run at 3:33 youstayed closer to the tunnel exit and he read that perfectly!

    >>I tried wrapping #14 just for fun>>

    The wrap there totally worked! The other option is to bring him to the backside on the same wing as the wrap wing, then have him slice away to his right (threadle slice) – that is probably the fastest line there.

    As soon as is he jumping 18, you can be decelerating and rotating your feet to 20 so you can get a better wrap on 19. You were much earlier about that feet-facing-20 on the last run and he set himself up really nicely for the super low bar there 🙂

    Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Dennis with Rosie and Lily #53715
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Poor sweet Rosie!!! I hope her eye heals up fast!!!

    Lily was super here!! She gave us great info on the first run about what helps her commit:

    The send-and-go at :02 on jump 2 was not all that compelling for her, she curled off the jump. The outside arm at :07 as very compelling as a send cue – probably because it keeps your shoulders clearly pointing at the jump and she can see the full connection.

    On the next runs, though, the send-and-go worked really well at :35 and 1:05, so I obsessed no exactly what you did differently there. You were a step or two earlier on the send at :35 & 1:05 and you were definitely looking at her a lot more, which probably made the difference. So the power of the send cue might not be about which arm you use – it might be about the intensity of connection (she needs big connection on sends).

    There was not as much connection there at 1:34 but I am pretty sure she knew the sequence by then 🙂

    She was very close to nailing that threadle wrap at :14 – she needed you to be closer to the jump on the turn away. You were a little closer at :43 and 1:12 and 1:42 and gave her one extra step to the threadle wrap: perfect! And you did a great job of heading to the tunnel as soon as you saw her turn and look at the jump, which put you miles ahead and definitely contributed to your success in getting the backside after the tunnel!

    Everything else look great, especially the backside at 7 each time!

    She had a little question before going into the tunnel at 1:20 – if you freeze the video at 1:20 , you can see that even thugh you were looking in her direction, your arm is pointing to the tunnel and that blocks your face (she couldn’t see the connection). That also turned your feet and shoulders away from the tunnel entry.

    Compare to the next rep at 1:49, where your arm is down as you were getting ready to send her, and you were really looking at her more – which also turned your feet and shoulders towards the tunnel entry.

    So yes, the big connection before the send is a missive help to her! I grabbed screenshots of those 2 moments, you can see them here:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N_yi8w5RKqhz4ppwuD6SK8CL2xpnpyg5qMj2ejhAZ-o/edit?usp=sharing

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Sue and Ginger #53713
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >> One video has the funniest zoomies Ginger has ever had. >>

    Maybe I missed it – all I saw was brilliant stuff, no zoomies 🙂

    >>Ginger is sometimes a bit brave for her own good…sometimes she will put her front paws on the downside of the teeter. I’ll say, not yet Ginger. One night, at 11pm, she has her front paws on the teeter and I am about 6’ away. She suddenly runs the entire length and slams it to the ground. Scared the crap out of me and I had a brief vision of a dysfunctional teeter. I made it into the most fun experience ever with several controlled teeters and lots of treats😳>>

    OMG!! I am glad she is brave but that would have scared the crap out of me too LOL!!!!! Time for teeter lockdown LOL!!!

    The training videos all look good!

    Strike a pose with the countermotion is going really well!

    On both videos, great job with the release, connection shift, and reward placement! She seems a little more fluid turning to her right (first video) so that might just be a side preference – she needed a little more connection shift to the landing spot on the 2nd video (turning to her left) to get her committed.

    You also had different angles of approach, all of which she had no questions about. Super!!! And her stay looks fabulous 🙂

    Snice this went so well on both sides, you can add more challenge: As soon as she starts to move past you, you can move forward – more countermotion! Then you can add the full serp to it, so she sees the full picture.

    Even if you never play flyball, this is a really fun retrieve game (although I bet you would love flyball – too bad you don’t live closer, I’d drag you to some flyball fun stuff LOL!!)
    Her ball retrieve looked great here and, not surprisingly, she turned to her right every single time, even when the ball was in a position to encourage a left turn. Good to know! So two good things from this fun session: she is a righty (I think we kind of knew that already) and she likes balls, which are really easy to use in training and NFC runs! Yay!!

    Minny Pinny looked great too – she bounced nicely to her left at the start (yay!) and had no trouble changing to turn to her right. She also did well when you did the turn-and-burn variation: she finished the minny pinny even though you were already moving the other direction. Super! We build on this game in MaxPup 2 🙂

    And overall – a big high five to you for getting and maintaining her tug drive!!! That will serve you well throughout her training!!!

    Great job here! She is looking fabulous!!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Sue and Golly G #53712
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    I don’t have a running aframe class but I can ask around and find a good one for you!

    T

    in reply to: Marie and Zane and Dice (Sheltie) #53680
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >I am stopping after each run and watching the video before the second attempt and I think that’s helping me.>>

    Good for you!!!! That is a great habit!!!

    Good connection on the walk throughs ad also great job with the verbals – comparing the walk with the runs will help us see what they need more of (or less of :))

    Both boys did really well!

    Zane’s runs: the opening looked good both times and very nice timing of the right verbal and peeling away to get 4-5!
    You turned your shoulders forward a little bit too soon at 6, so he ended up on the front side.

    >>I think what happened is that I was angling towards the front of the jump.

    Yes – that is what happened. You were connected but did not wait til he said “yes, I see it!” before turning your shoulders to start the FC line.

    >>I tried to be more clear and wait till I saw him commit on our second attempt and I think we did well! >>

    That looked great! You maintained the connection and also kept moving to the backside until he looked at it, then you moved into the FC. Nice!!!

    The 2nd run overall was really strong!
    Staying closer to 7 and 8 will set up the layering if you wanted to get it – peeling away from 7-8 did put you too far forward on the line to get the layering.

    Dice is pretty different in how he reads lines, so we saw some different handling needs.
    You can lead out more so he doesn’t curl into you over 1.

    >>I did get the verbal turn cue out before he got to the tunnel, but it was not as effective as it was with Zane. lol I tried adding his name on the second attempt and we did manage to get the jump after the tunnel on that rep, but I couldn’t get the threadle slice either time.>>

    The 3-4-5 line was a more severe right for him than it was for Zane, so he needed more than the verbal cues there. You might need a physical turn cue that is very strong, like letting him see you rotating into a FC before he even enters the tunnel (rather than a BC after he enters). That is a more powerful cue and can get the turn. And then when he is finding the 4 jump more easily, you can make a more exaggerated arm-swinging-back motion to get the threadle info. He is young and less experienced, so he needs the cues to be bigger 🙂

    Will he always need bigger cues? Probably not! But for now, the more physical cues you can show him, the easier it will be to turn him.

    >>I did continue the run though so I’m counting that as a win.>>

    TOTAL win!!!! And that is important with young dogs in particular, so you don’t run into any frustration issues. And he got the layering at the end! Yay!

    Great job here!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Kim and Sly (3 1/2 year old Cocker Spaniel) #53674
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Yes, if the dog is fresh and the sequence is still set up, you can totally try it and see how much time you can shave off 🙂 It is a timed sport, so fastest lines are key!!!!
    Geekery is the most fun part!

    T

    in reply to: Kim and Sly (3 1/2 year old Cocker Spaniel) #53673
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>Watched the video, walked just that section again focusing on slowing me down, pause and see him actually turn towards the jump. Practiced one and then ran the sequence again.>>

    Yes, those threadle wraps are slow motion moves for all levels of experience, so no need to try to do them fast 🙂

    Looking at his runs:
    A little suggestion for the opening – you can give him more motion on the send to 2. On the first run he had a little question, so you can give a bigger send and a little more motion there, and still have plenty of time to get past the tunnel exit.

    Looking at the threadle wrap – you were really far from the wing at :13 (closer to the tunnel) and your cues were super subtle (small movement of the opposite arm). Same thing at :44 – very subtle handling, far from the wing of the jump.

    I think the further you are from the obstacle you want, the bigger the cues need to be, so getting both hands involved and giving big hand movements can clarify that. Then don’t move forward or praise til he turns his head and takes the first step to the jump.

    You were a little closer at 1:01 and MUCH better (bigger!) physical cues and he got it really nicely!!!

    Looking at the side by side (aren’t the side by sides FUN to watch!!!)

    \>>I watched the side x side in slow motion and the walk through really starts to get ahead at the Threadle Wrap. Hmmmmm, I’m thinking that might be indicative of why I messed it up the first time?>>

    Yes, in that section it looks like you didn’t plan for waiting for him to cue you to leave for the next line – you flipped him off and left LOL!

    Remember that on all of those turns, you need to see the dog’s acknowledgment and in this case, it is the head turn AND the first step to the jump. That would slow down your motion and is definitely a good thing to add! I think the other thing was that you didn’t really give him a clear physical cue on the walk through, just a tiny bit if your opposite/left hand moving, which is not a bog enough cue especially when you are pretty far from the jump. I think it might have worked if you were really clos to the jump but the further away you were, the bigger the ‘go back out there’ cues need to be (like on the successful reps).

    Nice work here!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Cindi and Ripley (2 year old Border Collie) #53672
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Yay, great to have you back! I am glad his paw is feeling better!!
    I saw your note about the live class – we are sorry to miss you! Would you prefer a refund, or a credit to something else? Let me know and I will make it happen 🙂

    Ripley looked really great here!
    The simple layering was easy peasy for him – the only thing I would suggest when working on the 1-2-3-4 section with the layering is telling him about the tunnel exit before he enters the tunnel – you were telling him after he was already in it. So just moving up the timing about 6 feet will help him in more complicated scenarios.

    Adding the turns on 5 looked great, both to the inside and outside of the 5 jump. You were there with plenty of time to set up the decel and collection. Yay!

    When exiting either of those wraps, you can tell him to get on the line sooner, as soon as he is exiting the wrap wing (you got a little quiet, especially on the wrap to the left). And as soon as he is over 6 and turning his head, I bet you can start the tunnel verbal. You said it as he was over 7 at 1:04 and the bar came down, so saying it sooner can totally help (the bar stayed up on the other reps, no problem.)

    To add challenge, you can make it more ‘course-like’ in feel by running all the way to the entry of the #2 tunnel then driving up the line with the layering – that will make it harder to get the turns, just like on a bigger course. And he is definitely ready for the other sequences and challenges on this setup :)



    Great job!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Tom and Coal – 29 month SP #53671
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Good work here!

    >>Lost him to the next ring momentarily after the 1st tunnel but he reconnected quickly – is the smart move here to stop and reward the reconnection?>>

    It was a really quick disconnection, and it might have been because he needed a turn cue before 3 (he landed wide there based on your motion). I think you were smart to keep going and reward later in the course – partially because that creates the reward for doing the course, and partially so there is no accidental chaining of disconnection followed by cookies 🙂 If it was a REALLY hard distraction and took him a while to come back, then yes- better to break it down and reward there and work through the distraction. But this was really minor, he came right back 🙂 So it was better to keep going 🙂

    >>Off on my timing on the RC – should have taken one step more?>>

    This was your Switch at :36. It looked like the RC jump was offset so you needed to decelerate on the on the jump before it to set the line then you can drive to the center of the bar and do the RC. You didn’t set the line which is why you pushed him off the line to the backside (he never had a chance to turn to the front of the bar on the RC jump).

    The blind on the restart was good but I don’t think you were far enough ahead to have gotten the blind in flow 🙂 This is one of those awkward RCs where you are not ahead enough for a blind, but not really behind him, kind of parallel to him… so setting the previous jump with a decel then driving into the RC will get him to get ahead of you there.

    >>I lost connection after the backside – did not see him take the OC tunnel>>

    Yes, that was a hard section! A bigger connection at 1:08 was needed, a really huge eye contact because your motion could have definitely indicated the tunnel. On the reset there, you had bigger connection and less motion, and he got it. You can try keeping the same fast motion but making MASSIVE eye contact and calling him to see if he can read the line (it is a hard line!)

    >>Did not use a turning cue coming out of the 2nd to last tunnel – led to a big turn to the last tunnel>>

    I think all he needs there is a verbal a left verbal or a name call) while he is still about 6 feet before the tunnel and to see you starting to move away to the next tunnel. That should get the right amount of turn!

    Overall though, he is looking fast and responsive! Very cool to see!!!!

    Well done :)
Tracy

    in reply to: Jen & Muso #53670
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>, but it seems Muso has been studying…>>

    Ha! Love it! That is the whippet portion of her… train a little and come back in a week and the whippety dogs have finished the assignment and read the next 3 chapters.

    She cracked me up with her backing up “let me go!”as soon as she heard the tunnel cue LOL! She had a couple of questions in the earlier part of the session but then sortied it out for the most part – and even on the last little blooper (you were saying ‘bed’ and she went into the tunnel), her movement was more of the collected movement into the bed and not the blasting into the tunnel. It is hard game for sure!

    You can put just about anything next to the tunnel – a crate, a target plank, even a wing to wrap (use your wrap directional). It is a great way to keep showing her discriminations 🙂

    Good job adding the leash into the lead out session – they have to get used to seeing the leash and having the leash come off.

    Her stays looked good for the most part, keep rewarding like you did so she stays patient on the long lead outs. You can also add in a moment of smile/praise/breathe then release, rather that release as soon as you get to position (to avoid her anticipating that you being far away means the release is coming at any instant :))

    Her lines looked good here! You definitely want to be as close to 3 as possible on the blind and the FC, without moving between the uprights of 2. The BC at :38 and the FC at L57 both had motion to the landing spot of 2, which caused her to jump straight over 2 rather than be turning to 3 (it is easier to see on the FC rep).

    So you can exaggerate the line and move the 3 jump further away, so you are driving to it the whole time and trusting her commitment to 2 (and motion, verbal jump cue, and connection will support commitment as well). That will set up a really nice turn 2-3!

    She confirmed that she knows how to find the lines when she read it so nicely with you on the landing side of 3 at 1:35 and on the throwback at 2:06!

    Great job here!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Sue and Golly G #53669
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    Nice teeter session here!
    It is great that he is feeling very confident about the teeter 🙂 Hopefully he won’t even see sideways teeter entries on a real course, but being able to line up straight for the teeter will be super helpful (and helps with the DW too).

    Eventually this game adds tip to the teeter – do you have something really super solid that you can put under the teeter so it can move by maybe a half inch or less, but the supports won’t fall out? The jump wings here are fine for making sure it doesn’t move, but because he is big and fast, I would want something really solid that won’t potentially wobble or fall while he is running up the board, when the board is moving.

    >>Any chance you are going to run a contacts class or rerun the weave one?
    >>

    The teeter and weaves classes are both in the independent study phase now – I am planning the fall classes but I am not sure there is room on the calendar to run them with feedback. I will keep you posted!

    Tracy

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