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The serps are looking good! He was great about coming in to take the serp jump each time except 1 (2:07) where your shoulder was closed forward so it was more of a layering cue. Speaking of shoulders:
Try to rotate your upper body to ‘face’ the jump more (rather than pull him in with your shoulder) as that will help get the turn to the next jump.
For next steps here, you can move the start wing further from the jump to add more speed for both of you!
The zig zags look great! He had no trouble finding the in and out 🙂 Super! You were a little early on one of the throws and that pushed him back out but otherwise he did really well.
But all – CHECK OUT THAT STAY! Perfect!!!! Love it! So you can add the 3rd wing and gradually work up to the advanced level.
Nice work!
TracyHi!
>>First a little info and/or concerns. Baxter is currently staging a hunger strike. He’s never been a good eater but now has decided to refuse his meals about half the time.
Yikes, that is a lot of food refusal. Does he eat during training? Will he eat his food during training?
>> Under all that fur, though, he’s pretty skinny so I do have some concerns.
Yeah, that is concerning! Plus you mentioned recently that he has had some GI upset issues – do I remember that correctly>
Havanese are known to like food, and food refusal 50% of the time a lot for any breed. I definitely recommend bloodwork at the vet – see if there is any underlying issue in his kidneys, liver, adrenals, tick panel, urine, etc etc. And do an orthopedic check of patellas and shoulders. There is a strong possibility that something is happening ‘under the hood’ that is affecting his ability to eat.
>>I also feel like Baxter is losing enthusiasm for training. I’m finding myself doing a whole lot more playing to get him enthused to train.
Yes, it makes sense – the brain requires glucose for energy to function, so if he is not eating then his brain is not getting energy. And his brain might be conserving energy for the rest of his body, which means less enthusiasm for training. And whatever is causing it might be painful, which will also cause less enthusiasm for training. So I recommend a blood panel (CBC chem, with electrolytes as well as a tick panel and also a urinalysis to make sure there is no UTI or anything).
>>So regarding this I don’t want to fall into the habit of begging him which I feel like I’m beginning to do. He’s a year and almost 2 months so I know he’s smack dab into adolescence but I don’t want to create problems now that will bite me in the butt later on. Any advice or words of wisdom would be appreciated.>>
This stuff (eating, loss of energy) is not operant, so it is not a matter of begging or bad habits. It is a matter of helping him feel 100% and then he will be very happy in training. The loss of appetite is also not likely to be an adolescent thing, because that tends to only happen when there is a bitch in season nearby.
I have also noticed a bit of ‘sticky’ stuff like he will freeze in some situations or lie down and not want to keep going… so definitely make sure nothing hurts and he feels good under the hood 🙂
So for training, if he will eat (because he is conditioned to eat during training) – try to use awesome food/meals in training, just to get calories and nutrition into him while the rest gets sorted out. And keep the sessions wicked crazy short – 1 minute – so he can keep his energy way up high and doesn’t lose energy or freeze up.
Looking at the RC video:
>> I didn’t think this session went that great because I was side challenged and wasn’t clear on which side I should start him on to get what I wanted. >>
I think it went really well! The GO lines looked great and he did the RC really well to the left! Then when you switched to the RC to the right, he nailed it too.
>>I realize it would have gone much better if I wrapped him from the side of the wing rather than where I was standing in front of it. It made me have to wait too long for him to get around me before I could move and set an adequate line.>>
Yes, the FC on the wing will make it feel smoother but also it was helpful that you remained decelerated near the start wing because it helped you set the line without any extra steps forward, He looks at you for a couple of steps but then looks forward and drives ahead, which is great! Yay!
The diamond is looking really good! Yes, the bind can be maybe one step sooner, but your connection and line were great!!!! On the race track – the right verbal cues a pretty tight turn and these were all extension lines for him, so you can replace the right verbal with go go go and he can leave you in the dust 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>> I don’t particularly feel like any of them went all that well.
WHAT?!?! Did you post the bad ones? LOL! I only see good ones here.
>.I also wanted to ask you what week in MaxPup1(?) that you had the reverse wrap exercise. Is that the one where the dog is going around the backside of the jump while I continue forward and they make a full circle around ending in the same direction I’m going? I don’t think I ever made it to that exercise, and what are examples of reverse wrap cues to use. I use “Push” for backside wrap (slice?).>>
Here is the link to it:
Tight Turns: Leading With The Head and 360s (Backside Wraps)
If Push if your backside slice cue, maybe use “back”? I use digdigdig.
Find the Jump:
This went great! She seemed to have no questions and found the jump every time.>>I think I needed to stay back at the tunnel longer so she could drive past me more? Try staying even more lateral by the wing?>>
You can play with expanding the distances and adding more lateral distance. Hanging out by the tunnel more will feel awkward and decelerated, so I don’t want her to ask questions about the decel. You can move the jump even further away if you want her to drive ahead more. But overall, this looks great and there will be more driving ahead on upcoming games.
Tunnel exit turns –
>>In the exit turns exercise I think everything sounds the same, and later I changed my tone of voice for “right” which was a little better. Is that what you would do? >>
>>I think all the constant turn and go cues I’m saying must be confusing and all sounds the same (blah blah blah).>>Left and Go did sound a little the same at the beginning (both were loud and yelled) and yes, the adjustment you made was great!
Left and right are collection cues, so they can be quiet (try to ask them as a question with the end of the word going up, which makes them a lot harder to yell :)) and also your physical cue should support them too – you can move away to the enxt obstacle before she is in the tunnel, rather than run straight.:42 and :53, for example: you were accelerating straight forward and yelling the right cue so she was wide
Compare to 1:04 – you changed the tone of the verbal and that changed your motion, so her turn was immediately better. You don’t have to decelerate as much, you can peel away laterally to let her see you running away to the wing and not running straight
Rear Crosses:
>>Making my cross too soon or maybe she’s not out ahead of me ahead enough?
I read this before watching the video so I was expecting chaos and carnage LOL!!! But instead, the video has go lines and correct rear crosses! Yay!
She had 2 little areas of head-check questions:
One area is the verbal use –
She had a really good question at :11 when you were saying “go go go” but doing the RC line to present the turn. You can use a left or right or jump for the RC, but don’t say Go because that can be confusing to her (which is why she was looking at you).I think her other questions of looking at you had to do with the early toy throws. Normally I would recommend early throws 🙂 But when she is learning to work out ahead of you, you can be a little more delayed to throw when she is closer to the jump (which will also help the toy land in the correct spot).
But overall… these are really good!
>>Anyway, you said to post the good, the bad, the ugly, so here it all is (mostly ugly), LOL!>>
You are definitely being too hard on yourself. Unless you edited out a lot of failures, these were very strong sessions with a lot of success, and great info about any adjustments we need to make as we take things to the next level. Absolutely nothing ugly happening here! These were really excellent – the sessions don’t need to be perfect.
>> I don’t particularly feel like any of them went all that well. My timing is late, I can’t run fast and I don’t think Hola understands the Go or turn cues.>>
They ALL went well. Your timing was good in spots, a little late in spots, and a little early on the RC throws LOL!! Your foot speed is fine and Hola is learning the verbals. her question when you were saying GO but doing a rear cross physical cue tells us that she indeed is learning the verbals!
>>Are there some simple exercises I can do every day or every other day to help her understand the meaning of right, left, go?>>
These games will teach her that – they build up progressively and pair the verbals with the handling. I don’t recommend doing anything every day or every other day (other than taking a shower hahaha). The understanding will percolate; she is doing great!
So remember – these sessions don’t need to be perfect or polished because we are training youngsters. My demo sessions are wildly imperfect, and I leave the bloopers in 🙂 Things are going really well!!!
Tracy
Hi!
I agree that all the dogs are doing super well in the live classes and in the forum too – very exciting times ahead for everyone!!!!The rear crosses are looking super. She was especially brilliant to get that first rear cross, after 4 reps of going straight!
Small details as you keep building up the distance and speed on these:
When you are going straight, stay outside the line of the wing, don’t run towards the jump bar at all. You were running towards the bar a bit at the beginning, but when you switched sides, you were much better about not running towards the bar at all on the go reps. That will help keep the go line distinct from the RC line.
On the RCs – you can set the line with a little more decel/waiting at the wing, then move forward to the center of the bar without any straight-line steps. When you were RC’ing to her left, you were moving forward a little too soon then had to travel straight for a step or two to let her catch up and pass you.
You can see it more clearly on the rep that starts at :33 – you were several feet away from the wing, so you took a bunch of steps forward. So if you freeze the video as she is lifting off at :34, she is turning to her left and you are just getting onto the RC pressure line. She turns the correct direction in mid-air but we want her to be able to see it before takeoff.
The same thing happened at :38 and she did not turn, she just went straight.
The last rep at :42 was MUCH better, you got on the pressure line sooner (no steps forward to the straight line wing) and she was able to turn before takeoff. Yay!
So the key is starting very close to the wing and staying there til she is just about exiting the wrap… then you can move forward while showing the RC pressure.
Diamond Game – lots of speed here! Yay!!
>> We started with race track and once I stayed better connected and moved she seemed to do better.>>
Yes – the connection really helped on the race track reps! And staying in motion helped a whole lot too – don’t stop at point (like at :02), because decel will both dilute the GO and leave you in the dust (which is what happened at :05, good job staying in motion there to continue rather than tell her she was wrong).
:10 – you were blocking the wing and moved while also saying the verbal – so she went to the only visible one and turned left. Gold star, good girl!
The verbal for the race tracks is not a left verbal for all the wings – you will see she started to turn a lot and that is part of why she was coming off the lines (she was correct). It is more of a GO verbal with maybe a left verbal is the middle wing is set up on a tighter line (yours was not and mine was on the demo video). That left or right verbal should be a tight collection to set up a 90 degree line, and the race tracks are extension lines so a GO verbal will be more useful.
>>You will see where the first two times I tried the blind she ducked into the tunnel. I will be interested in what you have to say about why this happened.>>
She went into the tunnel because you cued it 🙂 If something like that happens, reward her then immediately watch the video in slow motion. You will be able to see it pretty easily. She is pretty perfect in how she is reading handling.
At :52 and 1:03 you did a spin (which cues a wrap on the wing) then you ran towards the tunnel. So…. another gold star for Caper. She was correct on both.
At 1:11 you did a true blind – yay! You were not decelerated at all, so she was running wider (correctly) then as you exited the blind (1:13), you took 3 or 4 steps towards the tunnel and you were blocking the line to the wing… so she took the tunnel.
Gold star for Caper LOL!>>Then, we broke it down with me rewarding her after the blind.>>
She was not sad to get the toy, but breaking it down was for you, not for her LOL!!! You ran a better line at 1;21 which showed the wing (but it was a FC not a blind cross) and on the blind at 1:29 too.
She almost went into the tunnel at 1:44 because you moved to it… but then you stopped so she stopped too and went to the wing. She had no questions at 1:51 because you were on a great line.
Adding in a little more decel as move into the blind will really help smooth out your line there too.
But great job keeping her in motion and rewarding a lot – there were errors in this session, but she didn’t get frustrated at all! She was happy to keep trying while you sorted out the handling. That is AWESOME!!!
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
>>She is working with well with arousal, isn’t she?
Totally yes! That is the hardest part and she was great!
> I knew I wasn’t quite supporting the tunnel at times, not used to having to do that, I typically spend more time trying to keep my Terv OUT of the tunnel. 🙂 I know, this is a baby dog thing.>>
Right! With baby dogs, we don’t exactly know how much support they need (or how little support LOL!) so we make handling errors. No worries, they forgive us through the joys of reset cookies LOL!!
>> I’m learning that I really do have to connect, seriously connect, side of my face not enough right now.>>
SO TRUE! Connection, especially for young dogs, is eye contact while you are running, with low arms so your arms don’t block your eyes. Side-of-face isn’t clear enough at this stage.
For example, look at your connection as she exited the first wing wrap at :09 – super! Eye contact, arm back, she knew where to go.
Compare to when she exited the tunnel at :11. You were looking at the wing and kind of far from it, so she looked at you and ended up in front of you (she is a speedy little thing LOL!)
A couple of ideas for you:
– If that happens and things go wrong, just pretend it was right and keep going. In this case, do a FC back to the tunnel and then reward her like you just won the class LOL!!! That will keep frustration level down and allow you to reset and connect more. You noted after the blooper that it was lack of connection, but she didn’t get rewarded so she perceives it as punishment (game stops, no reinforcement). So don’t let think it was an error by staying in motion and cuing the next obstacle.This is different than fixing the error in the moment, because that can be frustrating. Just pretend she wrapped the wing, do the FC, and run to the tunnel 🙂
– Because of her speed (yay!) you can send to the tunnel more so you are further ahead when she exits. That will allow you to connect more and also be closer to the wing, both of which will help her see it.
The rest of the session looked great! You were really emphasizing the connection and that is exactly what she needs. When you did the racetrack at the end, you had good connection and also had your arm up – I don’t hink you need your arm up on speed circles like this, because it slows you down a bit. You can try it using your arms to run like a sprinter – that will help maintain connection and also keep your ahead of her 🙂
She is quite talktative on course – it sounds like excitement to me because she was talking and staying on hre line. If she was frustrated, she is likely to come off her line. But she was quiet when you were very early with your cues (in a good way!) so you can play with being earlier and see if she can still commit to the wings and tunnel 🙂
>>Speaking of tunnels, can I ask for tunnel advice? Would it make sense for me to get a 10 ft tunnel for these exercises, with an additional 2 sets of bags? I have a 8 pitch tunnel in my Amazon cart right now, but I’m trying not to impulse buy. I haven’t been able to find a 6 pitch, clean run is out of them. Or is the bigger tunnel, lower pitch, better. Either way I need more bags.>>
I think the tunnel you have here (20 foot tunnel?) is perfect, no need to get a 10 foot tunnel at this point. A 15 foot, 4 or 6 inch pitch would be a nice addition but it is not something you need right away. Tunnel bags are a higher priority, so 2 more sets would be great or even 3 or 4 more sets!
Great job here!
TracyGood morning!
>>I will be on week 2 forever sounds like.
You can progress these concepts into week 3 and 4, because they both have games where you can work on connection and verbals and jumping 🙂 That way you don’t do the same thing a zillion times 🙂
>>It is hard to switch from a dog that is 25” withers to one that is maybe 12.
SO TRUE!!!! It is like an entirely different sport LOL!
>>>I do play crate games with him by the way, the concept just doesn’t really seem to transfer anywhere else.
If he is doing well with his crate games, you can use the crate as part of his start line! Just be sure the crate pan isn’t slippery and he can’t get his feet caught on anything. Also, you can use a mat to replicate the boundary of the crate, and use a mat (or a cato board) on the start line too.
>> We also work on sit tug sit a lot but that also isn’t transferring yet.
I think the clicker stays from MaxPup 1 might end up being the most productive for him, because the click can be really clear about holding the sit until he hears the click:
Have fun!
TracyHi!
The bowl as target definitely worked well for her! This was a good session for sure.
As you continue to add more speed through the serps, 2 ideas for you:She pretty consistently has a miss on the first or 2nd rep of the session or the new side. So to help her get it right on the first time, have the serp jump angled towards her so she can see the bar more easily. I’d say moving the wing closer to the bowl about one foot towards her line will be the sweet spot to start each session or new side. Then after a success or two, you can inch it back towards the flat position.
The other thing to add is opening up your shoulders into serp position sooner. You were rotating into the serp position after you passed the center of the bar, which was a little late. Ideally, she sees the shoulders open up into serp position as she exits the start wing – so as long as you are past the first wing of the jump, you can open up the shoulders into serp position as soon as she is committing to the start wing because that way she will see that when she exits the wing. Seeing the shoulder position sooner will help her come in sooner too!
Great job here!
TracyHi!
>> I wasn’t using any food so she must have been flossing her teeth with beard hair, LOL!
Ha! So funny!!!!
Zig Zags – she is doing well on these. Any questions were handler errors in timing 🙂 so if something goes wrong, use an immediate reset cookie to help her move back to the start spot.
What was happening was on the release, you were doing an extra move before cuing the push or pull line you wanted. On 2 wings, it was not a problem because the gap between the wings was pretty obvious. But on 3 wings, her forward drive to you made things less obvious so she didn’t get the first gap if your timing was late.
>>I’m stumped on the Zig Zag when she has to turn left. She was able to do it once with three wings, but after that wouldn’t turn in. I don’t know if it’s something I’m doing differently than when she’s turning to her right or what, >>
What was happening at 2:18, 2:56, and 3:08 was that as you said the release, you did a right arm pull then tried to do a left arm push to get the first gap, but she was already at wing 2 when you did that so it was too late to for her get it.
You actually did the extra pull move on both sides, but you were quicker to push her back when she needed to go to her right (like at 1:40). So on all the releases, you can just immediately use the opposite arm to push her line into that first gap.
Find the jump looked fabulous! Yay! I don’t think she had any questions at all 🙂 So you can expand the game – you can be more lateral (closer to the start wing) as you move up the line. And you can also run faster, and also move the wing & jump even further from the tunnel. I think that will add to the fun but won’t be hard for her at all 🙂
Great job!! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Set point jumping looks good! He has nice form going – light, powerful, balanced! And he also is doimg a great job with his stay even when you are moving fast with the dragging toy!!! You might notice that he is ticking the first jump a little bit, because he is dropping his head in he stay which changes shoulder position. It is something to watch and let him sort out, if possible. If he gets too crouchy, we can use a stand stay.
We add to this tonight!
Minny pinny also looked great – it is so fun to see him looking back and forth as you say the verbals! He is doing SUPER with these. You can revisit this game here and there, gradually adding more challenge by putting him between your feet and being centered on the wings – but it is not a high priority right now (he has accomplished the high priorities of this game already :))
Holy wowza, he has some explosive speed going in the tunnel-jump game!! I thought it was playing in fast forward!!
You can add more motion to this – the Utah Fun Force neglected to mention that you should be in motion the whole time 🙂 So you will want to either be way ahead and moving, or lateral and moving, or run all the way to the tunnel then move forward, so he drives ahead. He was pretty darned awesome with finding the jump, so you can definitely add in more challenge in terms of which position you are in!
One small detail – be careful of your mechanics as you send and leave. At 1:38, for example, you did a connected FC on the start wing but you said tunnel and he never considered turning LOL! So be sure to face the tunnel like you did at 1:48, so you don’t accidentally dilute the FC on the start wing.
Great job here! See you in class later!
TracyI was all ready for some video analysis but this was HILARIOUS (ok, maybe not hilarious since you have all that damn snow, but still hilarious). The credits cracked me up too!!! “Else Adele Dazeem” hahaha
Can I share it on Facebook?
I can’t believe you have more snow. Ugh!
>>Will inside still work with tomorrow’s live class?
Yes, inside will work! Then the snow will melt and you will be able to take it all outside.
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Hi!
>> staying is still for losers in his book. >>
Have you tried working stays on a mat or platform, or in crate games? Both of those can really help – he still fails a lot when doing a stay on the flat and we don’t want to condition frustration or stress into the stay. Plus, using a mat or crate games, you can also work on getting the reward to the ground before you release him, which we will eventually transfer to the jump grids.
>> I think his set point work is coming along>>
Yes, definitely! I bet you can spread the jumps out a little more too 🙂 Maybe 6 inches more.
And now we can get the target involved, to get his head down and so he doesn’t look up at you while jumping. Right now you were able to get some stays, but you were holding the reward and very near jump 2. To work jumping form, you can put a target out about 10 feet past jump 2 (a toy, or a remote feeder, or a cookie in a bowl). And then rather than do a stay, you can hold him at jump 1 and send him through the little grid to the reward target. That can get the form started so you can work on form and the stay separately.
Tunnel games – his commitment is looking better! Yay! It is fun to put together little courses now 🙂
The two things that were causing him to ask questions were when you disconnected, and also when the verbals were unclear.
Looking at verbals, try not to use your go as a wrap verbal or a “let’s start’ verbal, because then it will lose its power as a GO verbal 🙂
On the first video, you mentioned that he needs to look forward more and I agree 🙂 You can throw the reward a lot sooner and also use your “get it” marker so that he is being cued to look ahead for the reward. That will help a lot! And, try not to use ‘go’ for the wing wraps, as that can be confusing – and he will end up looking at you too much if it sometimes means wrap and sometimes means go straight.You can also star saying your left/right (or GO when you want a straight exit) before he goes into the tunnel, so he doesn’t default to looking at you when he exits.
One other verbal to be careful about: “yes”. We have all accidentally conditioned yes to mean “reward from hand” so the dogs stop what they are doing and come to us – it happened at the wing when you said yes, and then when you said yes on a tunnel entry and he came out of the tunnel (:38 on the 2nd video). So unless you want him to stop what he is doing and come to you 🙂 , use only obstacle names, directionals, and placement markers like “get it” and you will find his understanding of lines will really blossom.
One other thing will really help: more connection!
When you were connected and made great eye contact, he found the line and the wing or tunnel really well. If you were not connected (not making eye contact, or pointing forward), he lost the line and either stopped or ended up on the other side of you. Bear in mind that connection is more than seeing him, connection is being sure he can see your face and eyes.For example, on video 2, you didn’t quite connect after the wing wrap at :37 amd 1:19. and he ended up on the other side of you. When you did connect, he was perfect!
And on the 3rd video, when he exited the tunnel and you wanted the wing, if you were disconnected he didn’t find it. But when you were really connected (like on the 2nd rep) he was better able to find it. Yay!
And same with the line from the tunnel exit to the wing straight out ahead and back to the tunnel. You had really good connection at 2:09 to get the wing after tunnel! But then as you did the FC at 2:10, you had a disconnect (looking forward and switching the toy from hand to hand) so he didn’t know where to be. Compare that to 2:24, where you were much more connected and he was great!
Connection with smaller dogs is HARD!!! But once you lock it in, it will feel comfy and his commitment will be even stronger.
Nice work! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Serps are definitely complex! It is a hard behavior to process and coordinate because they can’t just stay on their line and go fast LOL! I have seen the questions she had here in this type of sport mix in both agility and in flyball – sacrificing the accuracy of taking the jump in favor of the ‘going fast’. I think they are jut not able to pull off the coordination needed as adolescents at that speed and in that arousal state, and it is also possible that their brains tell them that they have totally nailed it LOL!! So, what helps is to widen the playing field and dial back the handler motion until they are consistently more accurate (while still going fast :))
So by widen the playing field, this is what I mean: on the easier side, keep the jump angle really easy and do a couple of sessions where you don’t change it. And on the harder side, move the start wing so as she comes around it, she sees the entire bar and it is harder to go around (I have also put 2 bars or bumps together to create an 8 or 10 foot long bar)
And, instead of really running, do a quick jog so you aren’t too stimulating and so you don’t get miles ahead. Ideally she should see you between the uprights as she exits the start wing and you should be looking at the landing spot behind you, so your upper body is rotated back towards the jump (and your feet face forward like they did here). I try to have each of my shoulders lined up with each wing, and chest pointing to the center of the bar, even if I am way ahead.
At :10 and :30 you were moving really fast, got a bit too far ahead and you were looking at her and not at landing – so she went with the motion and went around it. Your position between the uprights and your looking at the landing will enhance the jump, so she is more likely to take it.
Compare to :14 when she can definitely see you between the uprights and she came in over the bar nicely! (but you can look at landing behind you more, for better shoulder rotation)
>>It was better though. I changed to a left turn and it all fell apart! I was so surprised that she flanked the whole thing since she didn’t do that with the open jump on the right turn. >>
Yes, could be any number of reasons why, I will just file it into the “Going Fasts” category LOL! You got it by standing still at 1:02 but I prefer what you did at 1:10 and 1:16 where you stayed in motion, just slower motion, that was great!
The proofing game added tonight will help solidify her serping (and/or make her head explode :)) so you can put this one aside til after you have a chance to play with that one 🙂
Nice work!
TracyHi!
Shadow handling: this is going well – it is a lot harder than it looks!! My only suggestion is that you can wait longer after the treat toss to start, before you take off towards the tunnels. You are a bit too far ahead at the start of each rep, so she is not always sure of where to be. That causes you to slow down, then she slows down. So when you toss a treat to start the rep, you can hold your position until she starts coming towards you after eating it: then you can take off! You won’t be as far aheadd so she will know where to be, and you can both go faster 🙂She is reading the blinds really well, and she also seems to have no questions about the inside circles. Super!!!
Nice work 🙂
TracyHi!
She did great here!!! She had no problem finding the jump when you were ahead, and when you went in closer to the tunnel so she drove past you nicely. FUN!!!! And it is great to see the skills transfer to a different location really easily!
>>What I noticed was that I did not get to the tunnel exit. Too much muscle memory to send at a distance!
I thought you were just fine about getting to the tunnel exit so she could drive ahead.
>> It went ok until I tried a big lateral distance.>>
When you re-visit the lateral distance, you can try it more gradually by adding distance just one foot at a time. I like to put a line on the ground for myself, to keep track of how much distance I am adding.
Great job!
Tracy
