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You would have enjoyed the FL courses but probably not enjoyed the hurricane LOL!! EEK!!! It was a great event and I am still sleep-deprived 🙂
I put some thoughts about the leash stuff in the other class.
On the backside slice video here:
Ah yes, i see the 2o2o feelings when you try to get to the center of the bar and stay in motion – it is a forward weight shift so this is great to convince him to shift back to his rear on this. We definitely want you to keep moving like you were trying too, so you might have to move very slowly 🙂 He was great with the sit when you stuck by the entry wing, so you can try a very slow shuffle forward to the center of the bar to help him shift back even though you and the MM are out ahead 🙂 When he has that concept, it will be easy to add more motion 🙂
Great job! Let me know how he does with more motion!
TracyHi!
I really liked this session!!!! She was doing really well! It took her a rep or two to lock onto the reward target but then she was super. She was definitely organizing herself nicely – there were maybe two spots where she was not totally perfect and one of them (:24) was because I think you started her too close to the wing. But she never touched the bar and was really high speed!! YAY!
So yes… add a bit of tugging her, to change her internal arousal. And then yo can go back to food and raise the bars a tiny bit 🙂 Or, you can go back to the front side and do the 3 jumps with progressively tighter angles.
Excellent job, she was really organizing herself and powering from her back end!
Tracy
Hi!
I see what you mean about the end of run behavior! It looks “bigger” in the more stimulating trial environment! You did a great job telling the leash runner very specifically, she placed it perfectly on the last run LOL!So, when the leash is right there, he is perfect. And that is something to keep building up, including having the leash further and further, eventually hidden so he has to search for it, and adding the chair like you have been doing.
And also, I think you can add a “bridge” behavior sp he has something to do when the leash is not visible or in some fragile Zombie’s hand, to protect the zombie and your flesh. Does he love a moving down? Any tricks he loves? You can add in the down or a trick after the last jump and before the leash cue. I used a down with my dogs that wanted to give me a victory chomp 🙂 and it really helped give them one more job to channel the energy into.
I think every single opening option looked great here. The sending, the ‘marking’, the throwback – all seemed comfy! The behind-the-back also looked good but it seemed less comfy for you both. You were way ahead on all of the reps and also had beautiful position on the backside sends (and connection on the exits! So nice!). So since this went so well, try them all again but have him facing 1 on a slice angle so he jumps slicing and landing towards 2 (he was jumping perpendicularly to 1 here and had to add an additional turn. The slice will add more of a lead out for you on the sends/throwbacks/marking, but he has a great stay so I think it will be fine. And then we time them all and see which is fastest… and use the fastest one of course LOL!
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
I like shaping the pivots too, there are so many fun ways to shape them. Shaping is a great method as long as the dog’s head stays in a neutral position and he offers turns in both directions.
This link is visible… but it is the same as the decel video 🙂T
Hi! He was great about getting in nice and tight to your leg – that is a great thing for tiny dogs. And he was tight like a noodle to your leg, when you added the pivot. Easy peasy! And he went back to the toy really nicely.
The next step if going to be to figure out a hand-replacer for you when we add more motion to this, so you don’t have to bend over nearly as much. I think a long wooden cooking spoon with a tiny bit of cream cheese on the end would work? He is too small for us to rely on a hand in his face for decel, so we will be looking to have him read the change in your pace and then get rewarded from a spoon, so he can get used to you being upright.
You can add a little more distance on your tosses here, so he is moving faster and has to decel more.
Great job!
TracyHi!
He looks great here, good pup!!!! You had really good clicks and he was really strong turning both directions too!
You probably have to pay him a little to stay with you because he wants to start without you at the beginning LOL! And you can tug during cookie reloads or between cookie reward, to insert the tugging more into food sessions as well.He did really well with the tugging version of this too.
The target started to get a little far away at 2:16 and 2:25 – reward those efforts even though they aren’t perfect (because it keeps him moving and prevents the down) and bring the target in closer. If you attach it to a yoga mat, he can hit it hard like he did here and it won’t end up too far away.
We will be adding some more types of reward marker words too – stay tuned! For now, keep playing with this and ping pong the distance: sometimes you are very close to it, sometimes you are far from it, and gradually build up more distance away from it.
Great job! Onwards to decel…Hi there! I am so glad you could join us last night!
She is a very clever little food hound! She reads the placement of reinforcement and learns very quickly from it… which means we have to be careful LOL!! She hit the target very nicely and the yes and cookie delivery were from your hand in front of you… so brilliant Bazinga locked onto the cookie hand and started offering behavior on the cookie hand (and in bulldog style, added in pummeling you a bit due to the WHY IS THIS NOT WORKING moment).
So, we will look at reward placement for everything we teach her and then it will be smoooooth sailing. You were very good about giving her time and help to sort it out, and she sorted it out very quickly.
Since we want her to focus a lot on the hand target and not the delivery hand, we can change the reward placement to a “get it” where she hits the target, you say “get it” and toss the cookie in the opposite direction. Then after she grabs the cookie, she will run back and hit the target – and you do the ‘get it’ and toss again. This will give her a more distinct placement of reward that has nothing to do with you or your hand 😂 and will really highlight that hitting the target gets the cookies flying, while setting up a little loop for the next rep to start. You don’t need to say “yes”, you can just say “get it” because that is both a “you are correct” marker and a “cookies are over there” marker. I will have more info on these markers coming soon.
Great job here!!! I just love watching her work!
TracyHello and welcome!
I think you will find this pretty different than B’s MaxPup class 🙂 Have fun playing the games! Let me know how they go and what she thinks of them!
TracyHi!
He is super cute and MaxPup was originally developed with terriers in mind LOL!
The focus forward is looking really good…. and yes you are talking too much 😂 but just a little too much.
Nice toy for him!!! Keep it super low so he doesn’t have to lift his head up to kill it, I mean tug on it LOL! And when it hits the ground, say get it and let go of him so he can drive to it immediately. You were adding a lot of “readyyyyyy readddy” which can cause him to lose the excitement of the moment.
All of the other talking during the tugging? Perfect! Keep doing that 🙂
You can start this game with you standing next time and add some of your motion (walking forward).
So basically you can talk during tugging… but any other time, just juse reward markers. So on the hand touch video, just a quiet yes is perfect during the targeting section – all of the good boy stuff was causing him to look at you. You can also say “get it” and toss the treat, to help him look at you even less. Then when you play tug, or end the session? That is when all the good boy chatter can start 🙂
So for the next session on this game, try it with you sitting in a chair so you are taller and the hand is higher, but you are not standing yet.
Great job here!!!!
Tracy
Hi!
This went really well too! I can’t see if you are looking at him or not, but based on his response I am going to guess you were connected. He was great!
You were definitely concerned about him NOT bringing the toy back so you were racing for the toy… which was causing him to drive ahead even more (yay!) but also it diminishes your chances of grabbing the toy 🙂 On the 2nd to last rep you let him drive ahead and called him back, and he was perfect! On the video I posted with my baby Ramen puppy, I was turning and running the other way as soon as he got to the toy, so the retrieve went well! This is definitely something to try with Casper too (going forward and just before or as soon as his mouth is on the toy, run the other way).
And on the last rep, he turned and lifted the toy back to you. Super!!!! AND TRADED FOR A COOKIES!! The video ended there – you were making a big fuss about the cookies, he was eating… and to raise the cookie value, you can then give him his toy back to walk off with you. I let my young dogs carry their toys as out the sessions as a trophy LOL!
Super session here! And yes, you can definitely take it to the barn for more room 🙂
Tracy
Hi!
I will go find the videos – they are all in one place, I just have to remember the name of the folder….Both pre-game sessions looked great. The only suggestion for both of them is to clarify the reward words:
If you are tossing the treat, you don’t need a yes, you can say ‘get it’ and toss. If you are rewarding at the target, you can say yes then hand it to him.
Both of these are designed to tell him where to look for the reward, so it is all very fast & precise (more on that coming next week). And all of the silly conversation about how brilliant he is can come during the eating and tugging 🙂Is he happily able to tug before and after the cookies? Since we are building food value with him, you can insert a tug moment after every rep: hit the hat or hand target, eat the treat, tug tug tug. Sure, you won’t get as many reps of the hat or hand target… but that is fine because we care more about the food value than we care about the hat or hand target 🙂
You are definitely ready to have the hat game turn into the send game that we started last night! Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
>> For today I put him in the bedroom where he can’t see or hear anything so won’t participate!
This was good! We had no added opinions LOL!!
>>Casper is such a thinker! I knew that when I picked him up from the breeder.
Thinkers are great! We prefer them to think at this age, rather than to fling themselves into things. You’ll see the pups in the demo videos were thinkers at that age too, slow and processing. They turned out to be very strong with the skills and SUPER fast. So, I like thinkers 🙂
>> he will run if you bend down to just pet him,
You can play games where you are backing up and rewarding for coming to you, and have him do foot targets to your leg to build more value in interaction, while reducing the pressure of bending over him. This is pretty normal behavior for TONS of pups!
>>and taking anything away won’t happen. I have been doing lots of trading and really trying to convince him that coming to me is super awesome. It’s a thing I think will take a while to fade. That being said, his retrieve is terrible and he’d prefer to run off with things rather than engage with me with things.
Trading is great! And if possible, give him back the thing he had so he can keep it (like a toy). I know it is not always possible to do this, but trade then giving back the original thing will really help. And, you can let him drag a long light line so you are not ever needing to chase or grab for him if he gets something, as that will cause more running off with things. You can pick up the end of the line and move towards him more easily.
>>This morning I started with Prop Game 1. I may need a bigger room. When just standing waiting for him to touch the folder, he did have to think about it for a while. And he was a bit confused when I pointed toward the folder, so I kept it short and stayed pretty close to the folder.>>
This was a normal and pretty great first session with a baby dog. He is the same age as my pup, right? And my pup had a very similar first session (I have the video and I will post it shortly).
Casper did really well with the sending! I think you can get rid of the clicker entirely: it distracts him when you use that hand to send, plus the clicks tend to cause puppies to want to look at us. Instead, do everything like you did it and use a “get it” marker to toss the reward off to the side after hitting the target on the send (eventually we will reward back at your hand, but for now you can send and toss to the side to get him to look at you less).
Staying close to the target was perfect! I figure within a session or two, he will totally have this game and we can add more distance.
Great job!
TracyHello and welcome back! I TOTALLY remember you and Kili – she was challenging and fun and taught us a WHOLE LOT OF THINGS 🙂 I am so thrilled about all of her accomplishments!
And congrats on Kenna’s successes… I would love to see a Grey at Worlds 🙂 Freaking Covid ruined a lot of big plans of we never know what the future holds so maybe Revel will decide she is on board! And Feldspar sounds like a fun little guy, fingers crossed he can play as much as he wants!
10 years later, I have a lot more sighthound experience. I am little biased and I think sighthounds are BRILLIANT and AMAZING. I am looking forward to more about Revel and Feldspar!
Tracy
Hi!
>> until we started the throw the cookie and come back to me as I do a post turn. (How’s that for nailing the name of the exercise. Good grief, I’m a mess.)
Ha! That is a very descriptive name 😂
>>Anyway Bob said, oh, I remember this game! And he proceeded to BLAST past me, at speed. >>
Definitely get some video so I can see. My guess is that you were moving too much. Two words for you… stand still 🙂 When he turns to come back to you after grabbing the cookie, you should be standing still with your hand down at your leg.
Let me know how the next session goes! This game is the foundation for the amazing turns we get from the MaxPuppers, so we want to help him understand 🙂
Tracy
