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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>For 1- I was releasing with his tight turn cue. He doesn’t have directionals, so tight is just “turn tight towards me.” >
You can start adding whatever verbals you are using with Beat – partially to teach him more verbals, partially for the handler-sanity of only having to remember one set of verbals 🙂 Will he know what the new verbals mean right away? Nope! But he will learn them pretty quickly, by associating them with the handling that accompanies them.
> I like the idea of the serp to the blind, that might be doable, even turning left or right on 1.>
It would be fun to see him try both ways (even if you just reward the jump and don’t do the DW) and see how he does.
>For jump 4, I only have a backside verbal, exit from a backside is just handling. Um, have I mentioned how bad I am with verbals? >
You are NOT bad with verbals! You are currently expanding their use! A backside wrap and a backside slice as different verbals will help both Roots and Beat, especially with the RDW and distance work on courses currently. When I added the backside wrap verbal to my Voodoo, he was already adult and he learned it by associating the handling. He learned it fast and seemed grateful that he didn’t have to rely on my physical cues 🙂
>And how much THIS dog in particular doesn’t actually care about words any way?>>
He probably cares, but is not processing them in time, perhaps? Do I remember that he is a Rat Terrier? In my Rattie experience and terrier experience in general over the years: they respond to verbals really well after a “heads up please listen” cue before the important verbal. I use a loud name call really early then the directional (and turn directionals are quiet like a secret which really gets them leaning in). You will see my RT mix, Hot Sauce, running demos this summer and you will hear the ‘heads up’ verbals, as opposed to the pointy dogs who can run fast & process verbals without the extra heads up. It is something we can try!
>I was super pleased with his turns 8-9, those have been hard to do!>
Yes! And it sounds like you gave him a strong ‘heads up!’ of ROOTS ROOTS like at :41 before cueing the wrap – I think you had a wrap verbal going but I couldn’t hear it clearly because you were quiet. Both of these were excellent choices and get great turns going!
> I don’t have a tandem cue, and with having introduced the threadle wrap visual and verbal cue, he struggles on a tandem like this where I might also ask for a threadle wrap, so I tend to avoid them and just blind. Have I mentioned we don’t do well with verbal cues? lol.>
We can get a tandem going without verbals! That way you have the physical cues in your toolbox and don’t need to worry about the word 🙂
I bet you already have this move in your toolbox with him (the video is from before the Verbals Era):
And if not, here is what is coming in MaxPup 3 anyway to teach it 🙂
> The only part I didn’t like in my second try was him falling on his face there (well, I guess and the pushy teeter criteria). I assume I was a bit late with the decel on that rep compared to my first turn?>
You were not late with the decel there at 3:23, you were decelerated and rotated as he exited the tunnel, so that was timely! What might have caused his question was the backwards motion as he was taking off at 3:24. You can cue the jump after the tunnel from the exit wing of the serp jump and see if that helps him read the turn better.
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Looking at the grids, he is jumping with his head up and a bit ‘inverted’ , resulting in some bars down – but I think that was more of the setup and not a jumping form issue. So a couple of suggestions for the setup to get his head down and more power from his rear:
Reward placement will make a big difference. You can lead out more, to about 10 feet past jump 3, and use a moving target (such as dragging lotus ball on a leash on the ground). This will help him keep his lead down and forward, and not looking up at you. And definitely always reward on the ground and not from your hands on the grids – you started rewarding with cookies from your hands, which pulled his attention to you even more.
One other thing: His start position was good (nice and close to the jump), but for the first two jumps should be super low, like 8 inches, to create the set point. After the first 2 jumps, the next jump(s) can be taller but the first 2 are always low so he can balance and power off his hind end.
>we also went back and worked the zigzag grid from MaxPup2 because he’s been struggling on serpentines. He did really well on that exercise but I forgot to start the video recording, oops.>
Bummer about the video but I am excited that he did well with them! Super!
Nice work here!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
I think the MM can really help the forward focus skill! And then when he is like HECK YEAH I WILL LOOK FORWARD, we can fade the MM and get him looking at the jump! Yay!
>It didn’t help that even at 7:30AM it was sweltering and so humid I can’t believe it wasn’t actually rain. He just has even less drive under those conditions.>
Yes, it is just brutal to be that hot & humid, this early in the summer. The forecast for my area tomorrow is a high of 102 degrees, which is just unheard of here. Insane! So I can relate to him not wanting to run around in that gross weather.
On the 4 Corners work – definitely remember how young and inexperienced he is! I think he was game to try the big layering and sent away nicely to 2! CAMP is truly a summer camp, where we have all different experience levels all in the same camp. So he is in the learning stage of the big layering stuff, and there are repeat CAMPers in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th year (Muso, Sly, Ripley, Synergy are examples of repeaters!) who have the layering in their toolbox and now we can run the big sequences, fine tune, etc.
So on your big setup outside: you were correct to turn the ends of the tunnel down, so it was visible but not take-able 🙂 And for now, move the other jumps in closer, so they are more on his line. And if he takes 2 and goes even remotely on. The line to 3? Cool beans, throw a reward out towards it. Then when he gets 3, throw a reward towards 4. That way we can shape the big distance (he is the smallest kiddo here, so needs to take more strides than anyone else!)
Your indoor setup is also great for teaching the layering concept. You can totally reward “roughly right” (meaning, he is layering the tunnel even if he is not perfectly taking the jump. On the rep at 2:38, he knew it was *not* the tunnel but didn’t quite make it to the jump – but you can still reward that to jump start the behavior.
So you are definitely on the way to building this layering skill – you are going to LOVE it once he understands it fully!! Keep breaking it down with a ton of reward and you will see him find the lines better and better.
Great job!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Really nice job here! I haven’t really seen Roots run for real – he is a super cool dog and your connection on course is *spot on*. Very nice!!!!!!
Overall, the coursework went well – here are some ideas about smoothing things out to get tighter lines.
>The opening was my biggest concern with the big off course after 2. I really WANTED to handle proactively and not stand near 2 begging him to turn.>
The opening was a little tricky 🙂 Especially with a RDW, getting the turn on 2 becomes important so you can hustle up the next line.
You turned him left, and the left turn on 1 actually sets the line directly to the off course, so yes – the spin was a great choice there! Remember to reward off courses as they are handler-created 99% of the time. When he had the off course at the beginning, the cues were late so he was on the correct line. He was just about past the plane of the DW when you said run at :16. So since it was a bit too hard to just continue, you can reward then start again.
Now about that 1 jump… to get the best possible turn on 2, if he can wrap super tight on 1 to the right, you will take the off courses out of the picture and won’t have to work that hard to get the turn on 2 to the RDW. Something to consider is a tight wrap to the right on 1, threadle to 2, and maybe a brake arm on 3 as you keep running. And start cueing the DW before as he is considering his takeoff to 2 (basically as soon as he gets to the correct side of it after 1) – getting the verbal cues attached to the obstacle names will make these discriminations much easier.
>And when I went back to try the opening again, my brain was so caught up in “I just don’t know what to do 2-3” that I am pretty sure I was all wishy washy about cuing 1, so we struggled even with that and wound up with begging/babysitting/standing around handling any way.>
For some reason there, he really wanted to accelerate on a big straight line. It was hard to hear what your verbal was there – were you releasing with a wrap verbal? Even stationary and a little rotated he wanted to drive straight, good work getting reinforcement in! Because being able to get that tight turn on 1 with just the verbal release will make your life a lot easier 🙂
Another option on this opening: serp to blind on landing of 2! That gets the correct line and you can be running the whole time. Doing it with him turning right and using independent forward focus cues for 1 will make it easier to handle.
>I finally settled on doing a spin at 2, which I actually really liked!>
I agree – it got the turn really well! I would like to find ways to keep you running forward especially with the RDW looming there 🙂
>On my first attempt, I’m pretty sure the missed dog walk and back jump on 4 were all due to the kefluffle about loading onto the dog walk.>
For jump 4 – he found the line to it nicely! Is ‘out’ the backside slice verbal? You were flipping him away to the left turn exit and layering it, but it can also be handling as a FC on the entry wing – right turn then set the line to 5 and 6.
>Teeter has definitely been our weakest obstacle, and waiting for release definitely needs some maintenance right now. Didn’t realize on that first run through that his teeter was barely even legal.>
Yes, he was happy to get on the teeter very independently which is great! We are going to be doing some independent teeter work coming up in a few weeks too. How was he originally trained? If there was a target involved, you can bring it back to to refresh the distance.
The wraps on 8 and 9 looked good both times through that section! One thing we can look at is figuring out how tight he needs to be to get the fastest line. You can run it with looser turns (asking for less collection) and you can run it with bigger, earlier collection cues – and we can time it and see which is faster. The answers are often surprising with terriers!!
>I also worked the weave entry, reminding myself to be patient as this entry is a hard one for him.>
Yes, it is a hard entry – I think on the first run you just needed one more step of support/facing it til he was in. That is what you did at :45 and it was lovely!
And he has lovely independent weaves so when he got the entry, you flew past the frame to get to the 12 jump. NICE!!!
You can be sooner with turn cues on 12 at :55 and 3:21 – they were happening a he was approaching the jump, so he was a little wide on that turn. Ideally the decel into the turn cues and your arms begin to come up before he exits the frame, so he can add a collection before takeoff.
Another option is to keep him on your left on the a-frame, and flip him away to the 12 jump and 13 tunnel. That can get you further ahead for the next line.
Serp on landing of 15 worked well! He turned a little wide on 14 though, so you can consider doing a FC 14-15 to control that turn. You’ll still easily get the 16 backside. Flipping away on the 12 jump to the 13 tunnel will get you easily ahead and into position for a FC 14-15.
The ending looked easy and lovely! Great job!
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning! These sessions went really well. I hope you didn’t get too hot – the temperatures are SO HOT for this time of year!
Video 1:
>we worked on me not going so deep to the end of the tunnels in the openingYou were really wrong about not running too far up the line. I think you can actually see her commit to 4 and then cue 5 while you accelerate up the line to the backside after the tunnel. She pulled the bar at :16 – maybe too much deceleration so it conflicted with the required extension?
You held still more there at :32 and :47 and the bar stayed up but it put you behind for the backside after the tunnel . It is possible that the she will find the line perfectly without you needing to decel to support it, and then you will be miles ahead for that backside 🙂
>worked the backside on 13 to the tunnel and then to 15.>
Great job here too! On the first rep you were sorting it out so didn’t back up but didn’t quite stay in motion (1:06)
You stayed in motion at 1:18 and she showed us she knows her job to go to the backside and take the jump. YAY!!!
So then the next reps at 1:32 & 1:48 & 2:00 were absolutely fantastic. WOW!!! The only thing to add is the verbal turn cue before she enters the tunnel.
>we just played a bit with seeing if I could layer the tunnel at the start and still get the backside on 4. I couldn’t get it with a push (in fact, I started screwing her up and she starting just circling the jump so we ended that quick). We did get one very wide cautious threadle wrap!!
Video 2:
Nice turn on the first tunnel with well-timed decel and verbal at :06 but then you kept saying tight tight tight and she was not sure about going to the 2nd tunnel. I think the tunnel verbal there will get her to it without her checking in with you (you probably intended the tunnel verbal :))The threadle wrap during layering was *so close* to being smooth! She only had a few questions!!!! Lower arms will help so she can see the turn away element to help her out.
When she was going to the backside on the jump near the weaves at 1:56-ish, you were lining her up on that line over and over…. Then she got mad when you told her that *she* was strong 🙂 So when that happens, the dogs are reading a backside cue: remember that line was a threadle when she came from the weaves no the other course. So she was not being naughty, she was just reading the info. 🤣😁
If it happens once, reset her start position to be sure you are not accidentally pushing her to the backside: she should be able to fully see the front side, and you should be lateral so you aren’t on her line.Great job here! Stay cool!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>I now have a good stable wait away from jumps and often in presence of a couple jumps at home it is still very difficult elsewhere.>
This is great progress! One thing to add at home is getting her as aroused as possible, then asking for simple stays. That can simulate her trial state. For example, you can run her through a tunnel 10 times in a row, then ask for a very short easy stay. It will be easy when she is calm, but much harder after 10 tunnels!
On the video:
Things are going really well. She is not 100% sure about the layering, so that is where we will want to look at reward placement to help build the skill.Remember that these are not gamble sends, they are parallel path lines. If you are sending and not moving, she will correctly read that as turn cues and curl in.
So to get her to read the line while layering, 2 suggestions:
– Send to 1 and 2, then run run run 🙂 no standing still!
– throw the reward out on the line, don’t reward from your hand (more on that below)
When you are on the other side of the tunnel and not layering, keeping your arm lower so she can see connection helped a lot (like at :59).
Back to reward placement:
To really build the understanding, though, throw the reward sooner and out on the line. It looks like you were rewarding from your hand which builds more value for coming to you and not staying on the line.This means you will need to run with the toy in your hand so you can throw it easily and on time, which is great experience for her as she learns to self-regulate arousal. If she is not great about bringing it back right away, have a 2nd toy to call her back to. You can also use a food toy like a lotus ball or treat hugger, as long as she can open it herself and not need you there to open it.
One more idea about reward placement:
To get her to not jump up on you: don’t use a ‘yay good girl’ because that is not super clear and she will jump up. Instead, use a reward marker and throw the reward. Ifyou are throwing the reward, jumping up won’t be a problem. You will likely need to work out getting the toy back after you throw it so you can really work on the distance and layering skills.Sequence 2 went well too – when she lines up between your feet (fun skill!) be sure to step away and have her on the correct side so she knows which way to go rather than releasing from between your feet.
Seq 3: If you are not layering, try to run that opening line 1-2-3-4 silently, so you crank up your connection – that is where her questions are (not enough connection). Same goes for any sequence not layering: run silently to really emphasize connection and not high arms looking ahead. Yes, I am evil 🤣😂😁 but it will make a huge difference!
Seq 4 – throwing the toy will hope teach her to go find the jump on the other side of the tunnel too. I think the layering and distance is important for her, so rather than run these drills without layering, break them down to teach the layering.
Nice work here!! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
He is finding the jump really well here from all sorts of different positions!
Was he mainly looking at you, or were you getting glancing at the jump? (Hard to see his eyes on video) Looking at you works well on the shorter lead outs, and you can keep building up the ‘please glance at the jump’ skill with a placed visual target to help him forward look at the jump.
>Ven is releasing on movement so I’m going to try to work on that away from obstacles, in the house where it’s cooler.>
You can definitely work the forward focus with the stay without the jump in the cool house – that way you can add a bit of praise before the release after he looks at the target or toy. Or, after the praise, you can toss a reward to him for holding the stay. That should help clarify what the release is – he does seem to think that motion is part of it, because the motion of a hand or foot movement is coming almost simultaneously with the verbal. He can see even tiny movements 🙂 So you can be completely stationary when using the verbals to help clarify things.
Getting a glance or full look at the jump will help as the courses get bigger and crazy, so it might be a good project to re-visit in the coming weeks. What he was doing here was perfect for moving to the handling games!
>ump grids tonight. Maximum of 5 passes. Any thoughts on what height to start with? He has been jumping 14 most of the time in class and on his focus forward work. Then we’ll work some weave distractions and holding stays with me behind him.>
I didn’t see this til just now, sorry!!!!! How did it go? The height of the last jump depends on the distance (I don’t go to a taller height til the distance t the last jump is 12 feet or so). But the dogs always give us feedback – if it is too high, they hit the bar. Let me know how it went!
Great job here!Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
These went super well – my ideas (and the adjustments you made on the video) are really about fine tuning the details.For the first set of sequences (video 1), the main thing to consider is strategically setting up your opening so you don’t have to stand still at all. So on these, being closer to 1 and moving sooner (rather than lateral by the tunnel) can get you to the next positions even better. You’ve done a great job teaching her the layering skills, so not we can strategize 🙂
Seq 1:
Nice FF and stay! The lateral lead out not really needed here as it causes you to stand still too long then hustle, which can actually make it harder to get where you need to be.Seq 2: Leading out on this one and standing still is what created the send to the off course tunnel. She was correct! You had to send her past you because you were stationary, so the send pointed out the tunnel quite nicely 🙂
You got 3 by standing still more at :42 but we want you to be moving the whole time 🙂 No standing still on the bigger courses, the ideal is to stay in motion the whole darn time.Seq 3: Nice timing on the BC and in in! Wrap cues will have to come almost immediately after the in in, especially a decel as you are doing the in in cue, to tighten up the exit of the threadle.
You made a GREAT adjustment at 1:32 with the BC to the threadle slice. I had just finished typing:
I think BC at 1:18 can be a little earlier, maybe by a stride or two so the threadle is visible as she is taking off for jump 5 before the threadle. She was a little wide, so the BC can start when you see her looking at 5 after landing from 4That is exactly what you did at 1:32. Gorgeous turn on 5 set up a great threadle!
Putting it all together: Very nice opening, BC, threadle! You did brake arms on 6 and got some collection, but this is a spot where a full reverse spin might be the best cue for her: It will get more collection/tighter turn, and it will turn your feet to the new line sooner than a brake arm/post turn will.
Running into the ending line from 6-7 made it a little harder to get the BC to the backside at the end, so the timing was not as perfect as it was at 1:32 but it was still early enough that she got a great turn there.
(Remember to add in quiet praise between the mark cue and the release if you didn’t have it here)
2nd video: this is definitely a less-is-more opening 🙂 You can basically hang out near jump 1 the whole time because it becomes jump 7 🙂 The goal is that as she is taking off for 6, you are already showing threadle position on 7. Stay close to 1, drive a step or two to 2, then cue the next big line without you going up along the tunnel much at all.
Using your opening strategically will get you up the line sooner – you will want to be settling into the threadle jump (in threadle position, facing her) as she is taking 5. You were only a little ahead at :10 so she took 6 but didn’t see turn cues in time because you were still hustling to position.
At :29 you had more decel and earlier verbals and were further ahead at 5, but there was still movement forward before the threadle so she was wide
The key will be to handle 5-6 as a stay-on-your-line with verbals and parallel path motion, rather than a send then got to position moment. :52 was a good spot where you can you decelerated to send to 6 but that caused you to then have to move forward into position before the threadle. That one step forward sent her wide/made the turn and threadle cues late.
Compare to 1:15 where you stayed in motion and got into the threadle sooner, and had a much better turn!
Where you can send more is to 8 to get the line to the tunnel. As she lands from the threadle, be right there and send to the jump. That will get a nice turn to the tunnel and you can set up the line even sooner! If she might be wide, send with 2 hands (brake arms).
Nice blind cross on the tunnel exit! A skill to add is doing the jump after the tunnel as a RC into layering the next line. I am seeing that over and over on course, so it is a good one to put into your toolbox 🙂
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHa!!! Dogs are so good at counting 😆 🤣
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHope you’re having a great reunion! That sounds so fun!!!
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
He did well taking the jump each time on the forward focus video! It was hard to see if he was looking at the jump but I think he was looking at you? So you can add a target or placed reward to this, to help him learn to love looking at the jump 🙂Then you are fading the target or placed reward and moving to a thrown reward: when he does look at you and you release him, throw the reward to the landing side of the jump to really solidify the commitment to the jump as you get further and further away.
When he is looking at the jump, you can also add a bit of praise before the release so he doesn’t move before you use the verbal release. On the first rep he left for the jump before the release and at 1:32 he released when your foot stepped forward. So to make sure he is 100% sure of what the release is, the praise will help him understand it is not your motion and it is not when he knows what you want 😁 it is the verbal 🙂
He had one bar down on the FF video 0 it might have been because it was a weird new skill and he was processing your position – the FC happened as he was over the bar so it was a little late, and he is new enough to this type of lead out that he was not sure of how to collect for it. The bar was not a problem at all on the next rep, he jumped that really well!
At :17 on the 2nd video, he did look forward, I could totally see him turn his head. YAY!! When he does that, you can throw the toy out past the jump on the landing side, rather than reward back at you, to help affirm that looking at the jump is a good thing 🙂
Nice work here! Let me know how the grids go this weekend!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
He gave great info here! He was pretty engaged overall on a really hard skill!
One thing I notice is that when you are leading out without connection, his attention wanders a bit especially when there is noise in the environment. So, stay connected and you can even quietly praise on the lead outs.
>so like if we have failures, then I make it easier and he gets it, then I make it harder and he fails again, then we have to stop and go back to easier again or quit the session? >
If he gets the 2 failures, you find the success point and do a couple of reps there. The watch the video (I know, I know, I am a pain) to see what is going on before doing more. Then come back and get success and make an adjustment if needed. And maybe inch out to a slightly harder rep, and maybe inch out a little more… but not a lot and end the session on success. It might mean we don’t get to where we wanted to be, but that is fine.
When watching the video, I look for things like connection, what the cue looks like, and placement of reinforcement. For this skill, I think the reward placement is key:
– using a target or placed reward as a visual aid to help jumpstart the behavior when you are lateral will really help.
– when you are fading the target/placed reward and throw the reward, throw it to the same place you would place it (on the landing side of 1).You got closer to the jump at 1:10 which totally helped, but note the reward placement: right at your feet, which continues to build value for being near you. And at 1:38, he did great finding it with you later but the reward placement was at the tunnel exit, which also is about being near you.
He got it nicely at 3:09 when you were pretty lateral! The reward there was also closer to your feet. That lateral distance rep would be a great stopping point for the session. He ended on a failure when you tried a harder one (plus dog barking in the distance and his attention wandered on the lead out, so he was not fully prepared when you released him).
So definitely start with the placed reward/target for now, because I think getting him to consistently turn his head to the jump will really help! It is a way of him saying “I’m ready” and will generally let you know if he is going to be successful or not.
>I can’t remember when we “reset” that count as guidance.>
The 2 failure rule doesn’t reset in the session 🙂 and watching the video and starting again counts as the same session. It resets in the next session which could be later in the day or the next day or a few days later.
>Should I have used more motion forward, like even just one step?>
You can, but ultimately, I think his question was about value. The jump is nice! But the you and the lotus ball are nicer 🙂 and when you were lateral, he stayed on a line, but it was a line towards you and the lotus ball.
>I also think I should have gone up to the jump to show it, then move into position EVERY TIME. >
That may or may not help yet – I think once the jump has value that overrides your position, then it will totally help.
So for the next session try the placed reward or a target like an empty bowl. You can even do it indoors in the glorious air conditioning, from a stay without a jump!
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! These both looked great and you were able to use a TON of your layering skills!!!
Jumping 1 went really well!!
Strategically, I think you were heading up to the end of the tunnel near the 4 jump too much in the first couple of runs: in run 1, you went up too deep into the tunnels and waited too long at 4 so didn’t get the backside at :19. If you get behind her on a backside send, hold the backside cue (line of motion, big connection, arm back, verbal) until she is basically arriving at the backside wing. You turned forward early and that is what curved her to the front of the jump.
You got the backside at :46 on run 2 and 1:15 on run 3 but it is much easier if you don’t go as far up the tunnels
>The second day of working it, I gave her a bit of a running start. She does good with her “look” and distance release, but I know that it isn’t super comfortable for her so I gave her a break from it.>
The running start/less of a lead out can actually work best in this particular opening. She can go do 2-3-4 independently with you hanging back closer to the 6 jump (not going to the end of the tunnel near 4). That way you are further ahead of her when she exits the tunnel to get the backsides on 6.
At 2:09 you were furthest ahead when she exited tunnel 5 and when getting the backside at 6 because you didn’t go as far up to the end of the tunnel.
Nice blind 6-7, threadle to 8 and GO 9-10! Super nice try at the weaves, I think she was like “THIS IS CRAZY” plus you were pulling away a tiny bit. At 1:27, you were a little closer while still layering, and held your parallel path better – and she got it! WOWZA!!! She was really confident with the weave entry on the last run too.
>I also noticed I gave cues earlier the second day, and I liked the way we handled 6, 7, and 8 better.>
Yes, I agree! At the end of the session, you did a FC on the left turn wrap of 7 – that seemed like a super fast efficient line that propelled her into the next line with a ton of extension (2:16)
One other thing to consider. On the Push at 13: don’t back up! Caused too much extension on the tunnel exit at 1:40 and 2:31. That is a perfect spot for some countermotion (German turn): you are moving forward past the jump as she is heading to the backside so you do a blind on the exit – that gets you further ahead to better turn her on the tunnel exit and get the next backside too.
The end of the course was definitely a place you cued sooner, particularly the turn to the tunnel 19-20. The timing was really good at 2:41 and she had a great turn to the tunnel, with you being able to get way ahead. Super!
Jumping 2:
Your lead out position was really good – you can line her up on a slice at 1, so she lands facing 2 and doesn’t need to add extra collection strides.
On the backside at 4, don’t back up to help her come in. It is not a German (no blind cross) but you can till use countermotion to be moving forward to 5 as she is going to the backside on 4.
>I might try working the backside/threadle wrap from layering tomorrow morning (I think I might be able to get the threadle wrap but not sure about the backside).>
Do you mean on jump 4? I think the threadle wrap is a harder line coming in from 3 and sets up a harder line to 5 – I liked your backside push slice! You can play with the threadle wrap and layering too, but I bet the push slice is the winning line. When you did the TW on the 2nd run, it was harder to get her to come to the correct side of 4.
SUPER nice job with the independent weaves!!! That made getting 9 easy!
The bar at 10 came down at :40 because you were running backwards facing her and she was not quite sure how to set up the turn. At 1:35, you were fully rotated on the FC and she had no questions. Yay!
That bar did come down when it was 15 at 1:45, but I think that was a late cue with the shoulder turn and tunnel verbal: she was looking past the tunnel then tried to adjust in the air
Give her the tight turn cue for 16 before she enters it happened when she was already in the tunnel, which was a little late at :55 and 1:47, especially when you were driving to the entry of 17 there.
>I also think I want to try to layer the tunnel for the last 2 jumps. The first option worked better but we almost collided!>
Yes! I think you will easily be in good position to BC the exit of 17 to get 18-19 on your right: as long as you are at the exit before she enters, the BC is safe 🙂 So you can send her to the 16 tunnel without moving forward much at all, then cue the entry of 17 with you basically hanging out at the exit of 17. When she locks onto 17, do the BC and reconnect with her on your right for the last 2 jumps.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterYes – the praise in that moment is really more for us humans so we don’t fall into being utterly predictable 🙂 Dogs are great at predicting the number of seconds, or the number of steps we take before the release, etc.
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>Lift’s seminar on Sunday is called Novice Zoom Zoom -it’s going to be more like Novice Putt-Putt with the weather forecast!>
Ye, it will be hard to stay cool if it is in the heat of the day, maybe being indoors is possible!
>She does get measured regularly by Dr Julia and is typically even. However her June 4 visit had a typo in the notes as 1 rear limb is 24cm and the other is 264cm! I emailed to ask if Dr Julia remembered her being even or not. >
Yay for being measured!!! A 2 cm difference would be significant if it was 26 versus 24, but Dr. Julia would have probably said something if that was the case?
>Kaladin had a fairly nice RDW, but it needs more maintenance. He’s always missed one here and there but it’s deteriorating which is why I am running him through the Shape Up foundation exercises too. (figured I might as well since Lift was doing it). He got a toenail in one and put his cape on for the other one at the Cup last weekend. He also has a tendency to make the judge think too hard on the a-frame (or obviously misses it). He’s better at the 5ft 3in frame which making me think about moving him down to 12 select later this year. TBD on what he jumps at the Open but I definitely want him at 12 select for next year’s Invitational.>
Hmmmm might be head position on the frame and that is also a factor on the RDW. Or, does he leap the apex of the frame? That can help get him deeper into the contact zone? Send a video of a miss so we can obsess!!
Tracy
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