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Ha! This is scientifically proven LOL!! And I think what happens is we humans are adolescent for a while, then adult for a couple of decades… and then adolescent again. At least that is how I am hahahaha
Have fun!
Tracy
Good morning!
He is a great goat here, and that is quite a fun setup! He was really working his body to place each foot independently and thoughtfully, which is lovely for a young pup! Super!
>His breeder did a lot with the litter climbing on things. He even flew over items in his temperament test. I do have video copy of that if you would like to see it too. >
That would be fun to see if you have a link!
>He has little fear of climbing which isnât good when he gets on the couch and tries to surf the end tables >
Eek! The joys of confident puppies⌠it means puppy-proofing access to all the things to climb on LOL!
The stealth self-control games went great đ He was fully engaged with your game even though his brain was processing the novel stuff in the environment. The only time he considered going to the object was when you put the box in: I think he saw you put it down so he went to it a little but mostly ignored it.
Which brings us to this:
>I was wondering do I need to do the warm up each time and put the item down or can I set up then bring him into the room?>
I think he knows the cookie recalls really well so you donât need to warm up each time – you can have the object in the room already and then bring him in and get right into the game. I often bring the puppy into the room on leash so they donât run over to check out the object before I start the game.
>For the tug release he wonât always drop for another tug. >
He was doing great releasing for the cookie here, so that is a good way to get the tug back! For now, since he is still really little, you can use a long toy so he doesnât have to lift his head up to tug. When he gets taller, it will be easy to use the shorter toys.
>It is actually funny to see him carry the 1st one in his mouth while trying to get the 2nd.>
Ha! That is so cute!!!!
Great job here đ
â¨TracyGood morning!
>I do notice his bark is different if he is barking at me compared to just barking while running.>
Right! He is a good communicator đ and we will track happy barks versus any Big Mad barks.
The wrap proofing went really well! Based on the value from what we have trained so far, the wraps should have bit more wrap value at this stage which makes the wrapping easier with the tunnel present. I am fully confident that the tunnel will come up in value when we get more into the sequence work
He was VERY clever at 1:27 to drive to the jump sitting out there! If you freeze that moment, your connection and line of shoulders 100% showed that line and we arenât really using tight turn cues on the tunnel exit LOL! The little guy is going to have big distance skills! Rewarding it (then removing the wing) was smart – he still looked at the bar on the ground though, so you can use a directional on the tunnel exit (like a right verbal) to tighten the turn up.
Since this went great, you can keep adding the advanced version (tunnel-wing in sequence) then the super advanced version (tunnel-tunnel-wing) in sequence – with you moving as well!
Great job here! Keep me posted!
Tracy
Good morning!
It was fun to see these outside!
On the set point, as soon as he realized that the stay was part of the game, things went really well! He didnât want to sit (felt weird on the grass, maybe? Adolescent dogs have feelings about that LOL) but he held the stand-stay well.
His form to the stationary toy was good, but a little hoppy over the 2nd jump as he was preparing to stop for the reward. The form to the moving wubba Kong on a rope was GREAT especially the first time you did it – rounded, lovely head position, powerful rear push off. And he is definitely targeting the toy not the rope, which is perfect! So definitely keep going with the moving target reward for this game.
>Do the jumps look appropriately spaced? (Theyâre about 3.5 feet). >
Yes! Good for now, and we can change it as his power increases.
>He seems to really jump (up) here, without even a bar set. >
That is the hoppy jumping that he does to the stationary toy. If you watch the jump reps in slow motion, youâll see that his form to the moving wubba is different in a good way! And the more the wubba is moving before the release, the better the form will be because he is driving through the jumps and not preparing to stop.
> And I broke âmiddleâ this week. I either scared him or bumped him, but he doesnât want to hold that position while I move. >
Aha! That explains why he didnât want to line up like that. I thought it was just weird to him because it was so close to the jumps. Since he is fully n the throes of adolescence, you can leave the middle alone for a week or so, then come back to it by just having him move into then through position for cookie throws, without stopping or doing a line up.
>Thankfully, heâs beginning to understand that forward over the jump is where heâs going â and sets up pointing that way.>
Yes! He did great!!!
The Wind In Your Hair game is also going really well!
When he had questions about going to the start barrel, it was all about the leg sending to the wing. When he was anticipating and starting before you were ready, it was because your leg stepped to the barrel. And when he was not sure, it was because you were rotated and not stepping to the barrel. So be sure to step to the barrel clearly when you can him to go but keep your feet together until you are ready to cue it đ
He did well finding the jump! Only one little blooper at :26, where he needed more connection after the barrel exit which is what you show on the next rep (:36) and he found the jump really well. Throwing the toy when he is looking at the jump also gets the best jumping form here too. You can start to add more distance as well – you might need to place the toy out past the jump as the jump gets far enough away that throwing it gets harder.
>Iâm editing the videos more and more (trying to provide more reps and less fluff). Please let me know if there are pieces you would like to see that Iâm probably editing out. Or if you want to see a âwhole sessionâ periodically?>
The edits are good, but also to save time you donât need to edit at all! I donât mind fluff or âdown timeâ on the video because that gives me time to type thoughts about it. And not having to edit saves you time as well! So you can edit if you like, or just post the whole thing – either way is great!
Nice work here!
TracyGood morning!
>Actually, the night of class I had them playing tug with me.>
Awesome!!! For now, you can keep the toy play separate from training, just to build up play with you. Then it gets easier and easier to add to training too!
Astral did an awesome job with her tunnel games! The wraps into the tunnel and the left/right turns went really well. You can use your left/right verbals sooner before she goes into the tunnel – they were a little late (right before she went in) and ideally she sees you moving away and hears the verbal 6 feet before she enters the tunnel.
The soft turns from wing to wing also went well – she took a quick look at the teeter on the first rep (because that setup has *big value* now) but found the line really well!
Looking at the blooper moments:
>I think I just wasnât holding the sends? >
It was all about connection for the sends – if you were pointing forward, connection got blocked so she curled into you.
If there is a blooper, keeping going then reward reward reward – there were multiple bloopers when yo were working on the FC wing-to-wing and she didnât get rewarded a lot , so she slowed down and was not as confident.
There was a small blooper at :48 when you did a FC on the wing, intending to go to the next wing – but you were on her line/blocking the wing so she correctly went to the tunnel. You kept going which was fine – but you were a little in the way as you continued too so you will want to reward and reset to be able to find the line (or watch the video if you arenât sure why she was convinced it was the tunnel :)). You can see the blocking of the line put you on the line to the tunnel That cues the tunnel – you can see that at 1:25 and also at 1:56 (coming towards the camera).
About the connection – when she was exiting the tunnel and you were cueing the wing – you can ee when you were pointing forward ahead of her, she had questions lime on the straight line tunnel exit, and on the wraps a 1:17, and 1:50 and 2:03 for example. Keeping your arm back to her nose and eyes on her eyes will smooth out your sends – and throwing the treats out on the line will help too, so there is less value for being near your hands.
Ignita also did GREAT! Since we are looking at your connection – on the first rep, when you wanted her to go straight to the wing out ahead, you made a massive connection and kept your arm down (:04) and she nailed it! Yay!
Then as she exited the wing at :06, you started pointing forward to the tunnel so she did not know which side of you to be on and ended up on the other side.
Compare to the next rep where you again nailed the connection from the tunnel to the wing, and also had great connection from the wing back to the tunnel – all connection, no arm pointing, perfect!Since we are looking at connection and arms and the camera gives us a great view:
When she is exiting the tunnel and turning right to the wing (coming towards the camera) – on the reps where your connection is direct back to her and your arm follows her nose rather than pointing ahead, she goes to the wing. :36 is a strong example of this and so is 1:01.
When she exits the tunnel and you pointing ahead like at :42 – the connection is blocked and your shoulders are showing a different line, so she comes to you.
When you pointed ahead to the tunnel at 1:06, she came off the tunnel. The pointing ahead turns your shoulders away from the tunnel, and baby dogs are super literal – they will follow the physical cues over the verbal cues at this stage.
When you did the FC between wings, Ignita had the same question as Astral: is it the tunnel? You were on her line there too, so for that FC you can be past the line between the 2 wings. That way when you finish the FC, the next wing is very visible.
So for both girls – try to run thee sequences without really using your arms at all đ Rely on motion and connection, keeping your arms super low and pointing to their cute noses, and I bet they commit very easily.
Great job here!!
Tracy
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Good morning!
>We practiced the smiley face game more and also the moving target pre game. I felt like she has learned to focus to use that for the next game! I didnât make and videos for the above two, but really loved the smiley face setup!>
Awesome! I think the smiley face game is really the first time we give the pups the chance to show us what they know while also going fast đ I am so glad she is nailing it!!!
The wrap proofing went great!! She was a great combination of fast and thoughtful. Happy dance!
On the âcheckâ wraps, she never considered the tunnel which is HUGE because tunnels are easy and fun and *right there* LOL!! Getting one error on the other side is actually fine – we do want one oopsie here and there because it can be informative. We just donât want a lot of errors, because that is frustrating. She did great on the other side as well!
For the next session:
>I also realize I forgot the collar part after I started and she was not wearing one.>
Adding the collar hold allows you to start the verbals before she move, which allows you to not help her with handling. So that is a definite next step – letâs see how much handling you can fade out and get her going on verbals alone. It might take a couple of sessions.
Also, you can add the advanced levels where you start with the tunnel then as she exits, cue the wrap. And if that goes well, cue 2 tunnels in a row then the wrap in sequence.
Great job here!
Tracy
Good morning!
Great job setting up all the rewards here! We humans are predictable so helping her understand to wait for the verbal release is so important. Most of the pups here are doing something similar: self-releasing on the 2nd step of the human moving forward⌠which means we humans are consistently releasing on the 2nd or 3rd step LOL!!
You got some good rewards in for dragging the toy for a few steps – keep mixing up how many steps you take before the reward and especially the release. Her jumping form is really good so working the stay element is the priority at the moment.
>So⌠should I do a few reminders before the set point, or test the waters and then remind if necessary?>
For now, doing a few reminders to start the session is best – it helps reward the stay when she might be in a higher arousal state.
>I usually do 4 of these (2 on each side with reminders thrown in) but only did the one as she worked really hard to hold that stay.>
Only doing one rep was great here – you got fabulous behavior in the stay and the jumping, then you finished before anything could shift away from what you wanted. Click/treat to you!!
Looking at the tunnel exit gates – you were both flying! Yay! It is a fun game for sure.
>I made it more challenging for us as I had her wrap the first wing which meant I had to rear cross her tunnel entry. >
Yes, that added a challenge that made it harder. If you get repeated questions (such as when she was looking at you and not finding the tunnel smoothly on the first part) you can do a quick video check to see why it might be happening. In this case, it was because she didnât quite understand the rear cross on the flat to get into the tunnel.
>The positive is that âmagnetic fingersâ really do help with connection â her entries are much smoother when my hand is back until she has passed me as opposed to me trying to point her into the tunnel with my DS hand.>
Yes! Connection overall was lovely! Even when she was asking questions about the rear cross into the tunnel, the connection was nice and clear! The only spot to add more is when you are heading back to the tunnel after the bus & white barrel – she had trouble finding the tunnel when you were going fast and were way ahead. I think a little more connection and less running speed will help her find it for now, and then it will be easy to add back more and more of your speed đ
Great job here!
Tracy
Oh, that is indeed a great toy!! This is great!
He might really like the stuff on the end of it, and also the bungee handle that makes is easier to tug on! You can tie it to a longer toy so he still has this toy that he really likes, and then you can slide it around for him to chase and grab. I am so excited that he really likes this toy – we can use it in training and also find similar toys that he might really like as well!
Have fun!
Tracy
Hi!
>Copper had a trial this weekend â almost qualified several times, but kept jumping his contacts. Alas, another opp to learn from you if there is a course around contacts. Also interested in intermediate distance training classes for Copper.>
Sounds like a fun weekend!!!! We have done contact proofing courses in the past, and we have a handling mini course coming up in February – all about the opposite arm which I use on some distance work too!
Wrap Shaping:
>I found treats that he REALLY likes and now seems to want them more than his toys.>Yay! It is good to have treats he loves! He has great toy drive so I think his toy ply will come right back in the presence of the new treats. He definitely liked the treats here!
You might need to take the collar off for this game – the tags were hitting the bowls and that extra noise might have been causing him to look around a bit to see if there were more cookies being dropped LOL!
Since this went so well, you can move to the next step: after a couple of treats to establish the back and forth rhythm, you can start to delay the treats and see if he starts going back and forth between the bowls (then gets the reward). And if he can do that, you can add an upright into the game for him to go around.
Drive to handler: he is doing so well with his stay! Yay! You can add in more of your motion now in the form of walking forward then slowing down so he decelerates into your side. It might be hard to have you moving when he is in a stay without breaking (we want to protect his stay like it is gold :)) so you can start with a cookie toss. Be sure to slow down no later than when he is halfway to you and reward with the dog-side hand right next to your leg. Yo can also add the pivot, where you both turn and he stays nice and tight to you.
Blind crosses: you are not klutzy at all! This is a hard skill (rewarding across the body) because it is new and maybe a little weird feeling đ It really helps open up the connection especially with such a small pup. The only time he had a question was when you were a little late (that was the rep where he didnât change sides). But you were on time for all the other reps and he did great!!
Just one suggestion: I think a longer toy will help because then he can stay at your side and not swing around in front of you.
This went really well so you can add more motion (jogging then running) to this one as well.
Driving ahead of you went great! He is happy to leave you in the dust đ The only thing to tweak is how you hold him when you are throwing – sometimes he was moving, sometimes you were moving, sometimes you let go too soon or kind of bowled him a little LOL! So try to get him stationary and not moving – then throw and let the toy land, holding him for a few more seconds before you let him go. Then you can also try to run. Check out the toy races we added yesterday, I think he will like that a lot too!
He was very happy to get on the here! You can build up the break cue by saying it then throwing a treat (you did that at the end). And you can also get him driving back and forth to the board by marking his interaction with it using a âget itâ marker, then tossing a treat to the side. That way he hops off, grabs the treat, then runs back to it đ
Since his treat love is really blossoming, you can use a more exciting toy – maybe something furry and a little wilder so he is equally excited about it in the presence of food.
Then when you want him to tug, you can move the board away so he doesnât get locked onto the food potential of the board until you are ready for more shaping
Since he was so confident here, you can keep changing up what you want him to climb on. This can include boards, couch cushions placed on the ground, random things you might have, and even some simply dog fitness equipment if you have any.
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
>Aelfraed is approximately 15 inches tall now.>
That is a nice size!! He will probably end up at a 5 foot set point distance, maybe even 6 feet!
>He also thought staying while his treat ball was put on the ground was exceptionally hard, so that may have impacted his desire to chase it fully when we eventually got to the part of releasing him.>
I can see how it might have been really hard! You can start it really slowly to work up to high value for a dragging treat. He is really young, so time is on our side in terms of teaching him jumping.
Wind In Your Hair is looking great!! You varied your position significantly (and looks like you added more distance) and he was still able to drive ahead of you. Super! Since he seems to like this game, you can add the challenge of you being past the jump as he exits the wing to see how he does with finding the jump – plus it challenges him to send all the way to the wing if you are right near the jump when you cue the send. And you can keep adding distance between the jump and wing.
He was also fantastic with the smiley face game! Great job keeping your arms down and showing very clear connection to support all of his lines.
He was looking at you a little bit on the soft turns (wing to wing) so that is a spot where you can keep connecting like you did and add in throwing rewards when he is arriving at the 2nd wing.
You can add more distance between the wings and tunnel here too! I was trying to figure out if his vocalizations were because he had a question or he was frustrated orâŚ. I didnât see a consistent reason so he is probably talking it up because he was excited đ
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
He did well ignoring the neighbor dog here! That was a lot harder when he was younger. Some of the delay in his responses at the beginning was probably due to the barking but then when he was able to wrap really well even as the upright moved away.
>I got some very nice training loops going >
Yes! You had a really nice loop going and got the upright further and further away – Super!!
The marker for he cookie was consistent but also the word is a little long so since you are thinking about markers – you can shorten this one to maybe the first syllable – that way you are definitely going to be able to say it fully before you move the treat
>then I kicked the baby (just a little) and it went a bit sideways haha.>
Just a small kick LOL!! But it did interrupt the flow. I am not sure that he was put off by being kicked – it is more that he forgot his train of thought and you were already 3 minutes into the session without breaking it off to play. So you can break out the tug toy more frequently and then I think the 3 or 4 minutes will be easy for him to do – the whole session on food can end up being too repetitive so the pups lose interest a bit.
great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
>but the words werenât working because my brain got broken thinking about cues, cos I listened to a podcast with Shade Whitesel. I know i need some clearer cues for toys, but I need to think them through, i donât know what I âneedâ but I also know my brain canât cope with too many verbal cues.>
Yes, clear cues are good but also donât try to add so many that it is paralyzing to the brain đ
>So far Iâm thinkingâ¨* play tug with me âtuggyââ¨* get it (send to dead toy)â¨* winner winner (he can take laps) >
Perfect! Those 3 will get a very far in training! You might also consider a âbring itâ to get him to carry it to you.
For the winner winner – if he is going to take the lap, you might as well say it immediately o you are naming the behavior. Then you can start to work on getting him to bring it back more immediately when you donât say winner winner. You can do this by running the other way and presenting a different toy or treat. You ran the other way at 2:30 and it totally brought him towards you!
The forward focus is going well! I LOVE how well he puts his collar nearby for you to hold. And he is focusing on the toy brilliantly so adding the âlookâ cue worked really well here.
>I say âget itâ each time, except the last rep, where I say âgo Goâ,>
Adding the Go verbal is appropriate here because we will be able to use it to build up the Go cue on jumps.
>(I left in the bit when the little gobshite stole a toy, but cut out the bit where Iâm trying to get my watch timer set up, and left in the bit at the end where he stole a toy again haha)>
He appears to think that the toy in your waistband is fair game for stealing and since he gets to play with it, he is going to keep stealing it LOL If it doesnât bother you, donât worry about it and just manage the toy better when you donât want him to steal it. If it is annoying – manage the toy better (tuck it away more) so he canât grab it and take off when you are doing something else đ
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
She did great here! I think she likes the action – as soon as she realized it was a running game after the first rep, she cranked up her speed and made you run run run đ Love it!!!I am loving how well she drove into the tunnel as well! And she got through it really fast despite having to get low to get into it. Good girl!!!
Your connection looked great and that helped her find the lines. And she also did well with the soft left/right turns versus the wraps – it was very cool to see her sequencing so brilliantly!! She was not quite as sure of the soft turns between the barrels (the left & right turns instead of the wraps) so she didnât accelerate as much, but I bet she will sleep on it and have an easier time flying through it in the next session.
>When she turns but doesnât wrap I should be saying left or right, right?>
Correct! You did well trying to get all the darned verbals out đ No worries if sometimes the wrong ones come out – as long as you are working the verbals, it will get easier with practice.
Yes – the wraps are for when she is coming all the way around back towards you (like when she was going back to the tunnel here) and the left/right âsoftâ turns are for when she is doing a 90-degree turn but stays on the line (like to the next barrel here.> Do you think I should move the barrels further from the tunnel?>
Yes – I think she will LOVE that đ
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
He was fierce with the toy here at the beginning! Yay!
He flings himself around a little with the collar grab when the food toy is around, so you might consider a harness? Or releasing more quickly to the bowl?
Yes, it was harder to get toy play when the food had been in play!
When you went back to the toy, you can make it even more alive by throwing it, dragging it like a FastCat lure đ and trying to play the game like you did at the beginning: holding him then throwing th toy for him to chase. Because the food changes his internal state, you will want to get him wild again with the toy being doubly wild. And you can try it with just one rep of cookies – throw one cookie then go back to the toy rather than several cookie reps. Let me know how he does!Nice work here!
Tracy
Hi!
Lew did great with the bowls for the wrap foundation! He had definitely caught on to the back and forth between the bowls by the time you were done with the first posted video and was even better at the start of the 2nd video here. Adding the upright was easy peasy for him! Wow! He was so quick that he was walking and chewing, like you mentioned LOL! Maybe tiny bits of steak will be useful for this too đ
You can start to replace the upright with bigger things – a cone or a barrel if you have those around.
Foot target:
>I broke the session up into 3 sessions with toy play in between, but he was not interested in the toy once the steak came out,>
That is pretty normal – he was a wild man for the toy at the beginning. Then smell and taste of steak was probably overriding toy play, so you can use lower value food next time and see how he does. Or, you can run to an entirely different place (away from the steak area :)) and see if he will tug in a different place.
Tossing the rewards away to see if he would drive back to the target was helpful – I think early on he was thinking the session was about being in front of you and smacking the ground but then he was very deliberately hitting the target. Super!
>Iâm excited to let him sleep on this a day or so and try it again!>
Yes! Letâs see what magic the latent learning will work – and if he is smacking the target at the beginning of the session, you can move tot he sending game with it.
Great job here!
Tracy
