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  • in reply to: Marie and Dice #37822
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >> It seems like we are on a bit of a streak of poor sessions.

    No worries! Learning is not linear, it is never a direct upward trend particularly with puppies 🙂 Do you remember that sports show from the 70s & 80s where the intro was ‘the thrill of victory, the agony of defeat” LOL!! Yep, that’s dog training. Plus he is in adolescence and what we know about this age in dogs is that their whole body is re-wiring, especially the brain, so we expect some things to come off the rails in training (and life). Having just been through adolescence with 2 puppies myself, I can tell you that it is a crazy time and you’ll make it through LOL!

    I might be remembering the names of brain parts incorrectly, but a neuroscience dog behavior person I was chatting with recently told me that during canine adolescence, the amygdala and the frontal cortex just don’t really communicate with each other in the dog’s brain, which makes training, um, “interesting” and the best thing to do is break things down, reward TONS, have a great time, and wait for a little more mental maturity. I have seen this happen over the years with every one of my dogs (boys in particular, just like junior high school LOL!) and every student dog. So now we have the neuroscience understanding behind it, which alleviates the pressure on us – we might be doing everything right, and the adolescent still might have trouble. My motto is: no worries 🙂

    Also, things often feel worse than they look – this is looking good 🙂 unless you edited out any chaos hahaha

    Looking at this sequence, you did the most important thing: you made it a good time for him and got a TON of reinforcement into him. Perfect!

    The wrap to the tunnel in the opening looked good! Then 1-2-3 looked good! AS you were working on getting jump 4: Lots of great reinforcement scattered throughout the sequence!
    He did have trouble “seeing” jump 4 on the straight line and driving ahead of you. So you can help him several ways:

    – accelerate forward more. He seems perfectly fine with your motion here as you built up your motion.

    – place a toy out ahead on the line or the MM, so he has a focal point past the last jump. He was driving ahead, but he didn’t really know where to go: going fast but with not really knowing the destination LOL! A total baby dog moment.
    – send to the tunnel so you are ahead of him passing jump 3, so your motion can show the line to 4. You can take out jump 1 to do this to start and then put it back in.

    You will see him have a big “a-ha!” moment and find the line. At that point, you can then start adding the other turns, but continuing to mix in lots of straight lines.

    Overall, this was a strong session. If he had more misses that were not in here or not rewarded – no worries, just keep rewarding and building it up. I promise you that we will survive adolescence together than you will be amazed at how quickly it all comes together 🙂

    Great job! And welcome to Adolescent Dog Team Chill 🙂
    Tracy

    in reply to: Helen & Changtse (8 mo old Brittany) #37820
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    PS -the suggestion to put the target in before she gets on the plank is a ‘next step’ suggestion because she is doing so well here 🙂 And while I am thinking of it, you can go to a slightly narrower plank if you have one!

    in reply to: Helen & Changtse (8 mo old Brittany) #37819
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    She seems happy to get on the board and hold position with all 4on. Is it a ‘scratch’ behavior you are looking for here, or a foot tap? You can sharpen the mechanics of this session to get cleaner behavior: Before she comes into the session, have the target in place on the board, attached to it. And have your cookies already in your hand and ready along with the clicker. Then bring her into the session and let her offer the behavior. By bringing her into the session before the target and the cookies/clicker are ready, she is looking at your hands a lot which will be hard to fade when we move your position away from being in front of her.

    On the countermotion game: yes, this is part dog training for the countermotion, but also part human training for the quickness and the verbals 🙂 She did well here with her commitments, but if you see her getting too hot and tired, go to the racetracks where she runs around the outside then give her a break – we want her to love wraps so we don’t want to rehearse when she is hot or tired. And, without her, you can practice running it with the correct verbals (which is actually pretty hard, the brain and body have to be so quick here!)

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Lee and Brisk #37818
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Yes, you can work more independence with the crosses gradually – lots of thrown rewards out on the line in the form of lotus balls and toys 🙂

    T

    in reply to: Kim and Sly #37816
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    Wow, he looks great in class – nailing that weave entry from 10,000 miles away at top speed! Good boy!

    >> It was one of those things that I saw happening in the moment (him getting a little slower off each start as the day/weekend went along) but I wasn’t able to process and adjust.

    Running is easy in that environment… being stationary is HARD. I think he did really well and will keep getting more and more comfy 🙂

    >> As I’ve thought about it since I think we’ve worked really hard on dialing back his arousal level at the start so he is able to stay and focus (and I think he still has to work pretty hard to do that) that as the weekend went on it definitely took him a couple of obstacles to really kick the speed on.

    Totally agree – the mental energy to hold the stay and check his arousal and remain focused is a high cost behavior. This is quite normal for youngsters and I think he is doing well. He is getting it done correctly and not getting frantic (high stressed) or low-stressed. With more experience, you will see the speed level out and he will be fine and dandy 🙂

    >>We haven’t done much at all this week. A lot of quick releases, throw the treat so he can chase it from sits around the house and class with Lo on Wednesday where I didn’t have to do a lot of leadouts (which was good) and on the few we did do I ran and rewarded with his tug after the 2nd jump and then did the sequence. We’re not trialing again for 3 or 4 weeks so my plan is to put “the fun” back in those starts. I’m also thinking that I may need/be able to put a little more arousal back into our to the line routine…..we’ll see. But I got tools!!!!>>

    Perfect – long break is needed after the physical and mental expenditures of such a big event. And I don’t think the fun was missing – if it wasn’t fun, he would not have picked up speed and would not have run so well. So it is fun, but it is hard. And yes – in class, you can start to pump him up and little more to see what helps the most, and add classmates and Lo as distractions to help him gain experience.

    >> And if you are by any chance looking for some freaking challenging courses checkout the ISC ones they are running at The Fieldhouse this weekend. Whoaa!>>

    For real! I saw one come across my facebook feed. YIKES! One of my FB friends called it “sadistic”. I think I would be voted off the island if I tried to ask people to run those. I think that yes, we can have courses with some challenges but there is no need to put EVERY challenge in every course and make it impossible for everyone. Lordy!!!!

    Have fun this week! Keep me posted :)

    Tracy

    in reply to: Intro Carol Baron and Chuck, sidekicks: Josey and Rocky #37815
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    Lots of good training here – you were tackling the hard stuff for sure!!

    Video 1: The opening looked really good! Lovely blind 2-3 🙂

    I think you got too deep into the jump after the tunnel – so when you tried to get around it, you had to pull away (:17) and then push back to the next jump (:20) so he felt the pressure and flipped to the jump. Good boy! In those moments, don’t stop because it really deflates him. Keep going, reward, then fix it on the next sequence.

    Video 2: Another lovely blind 2-3 🙂 This time, you didn’t get caught behind the jump after the tunnel and you had a much better line to the backside at :37. Nice!! The jump after the yellow tunnel is a push away, so an out cue would help – and give it to him before he enters the yellow tunnel.

    Video 3: I was just going to mention the other option here: to blind cross the exit of the tunnel to get him on your right, then send to the backside – that can put you miles ahead to get the jump after the yellow tunnel. You were in a great position to get the BC after the first tunnel! And here it is, beautifully executed. YAY! That made the whole sequence just beautiful (til you forgot the next part :)) . Well done here!!

    Video 4: The push worked really well! You can tell him over for the jump after the backside as soon as you see him take off for the push jump, and drive more to the center of the jump then to the weave entry – he didn’t know where to go after the rear cross, so needed a bit more support on the line before you turn and leave for the next line. In that moment, keep going, get on a line and run – it deflates him when you stop and walk away. We want him to think this game is super fun and that he is never wrong (he is not wrong here) so keep going, reward, and fix it in the next rep.

    Video 5: This had much clearer handling to the weaves! Nice!! And when you reward, rather than stop him, take off running and throw the toy or let him chase you for it, all in the name of keeping him pumped up and engaged 🙂

    Video 6: Nice handling to the weave here too! He definitely does not like the stopped reward, so keep moving to deliver the reward for sure!!

    Course 2:
    First video:
    To get the layering on this opening, try not to decelerate at all – you might have to run in closer to the #2 tunnel so he sees a ton of acceleration into the layered section. Great job rewarding him and then re-starting! You were clearer on. The 2nd rep and 3rd rep, there was more motion so he was better about finding the line. Keep moving, so then you can be ahead of him to get the jump. You were cuing the jump at 2:44 after he was already locked onto the tunnel – try to start cuing it as he is taking off for the jump before it. Good job breaking it down to help him find the jump right there in front of the tunnel 🙂

    2nd video – at the start, I think he was watching you a bit because he was unsure with the starts and stops, which made the layering harder (and is also why we want to reward more so he doesn’t lose confidence on the bigger lines). Placing the reward for him on the layered line TOTALLY helps! You can start as you did here and place on the landing of 4, then move it down the line to the landing of 5, and so on, so he gets fully independent.

    I think the timing of your verbals was good at 2:21, but he doesn’t know how to find the line when verbals say one thing but the motion is fast and might also mean tunnel 🙂 you got there really well, so you can dial back your motion, just walking, so that he can process the difference in the verbals when the motion is continuing forward.

    Last video: Nice job on this ending line!! You can use less decel on the 270 for him the 2 jumps before the weaves) to get even more power. He found that weave entry beautifully!

    Nice work on these! Let me know what you think! We will keep building up these skills 🙂
    Tracy

    in reply to: Kristie & Keiko #37814
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!
    This session looked really good!

    >> What I tried today was to use a wing off the second pole and another one off the third pole.

    This is what my suggestion would have been – great minds think alike LOL! The other option is to reward right at the bend back into 3, placing it on the weave base (only a couple of times to get the feel) or to open up the space where she has trouble bending back. The wing is working really well here, and then we can fade it – to a pool noodle attached to the weave pole, for example.

    >>I worked standing still, moving a little. moving more, moving in the opposite direction and rear crossing the poles, all primarily from the “on” side.

    This all looked good! There was steam coming out of her ears, but she was super! And great job placing the reward out ahead when you did the countermotion and rear crosses.

    >> I took it off for the next send, and starting around 1:05 you’ll see what happens when the wing is not on the 3rd pole. I put the wing back in place, and did one more run so I could reward on a positive note.
    So, suggestions? How do I fade that wing on the 3rd pole? Or is there something else I should try? >>

    I suggest 2 things: leaving the wing in place for now, so you can put it into courses – when she is weaving on course, have the wing there and visible in training! Then, after a few very successful sessions, we can reduce the size of the visual from a big wing to a pool noodle zip tied to the weave pole and see how she does… then we fade that out eventually too. You can also click that moment of bending into the 2-3 pole section, then toss the reward. It is fine if she leaves the poles on the click, because it won’t be something we do a lot of, plus only the click is the permission to leave (I would NOT do that with just a verbal). And, you can use 2x2s or channels to have all the poles straight except open up that one gap to help her, as you fade out the wing.

    Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Sundi and Whistle (possible bit player Fritzi) #37813
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning! Sorry to hear about the flu, hope you are feeling much better!!! Your runs here looked lovely!

    I had to re-watch the video a few times, I kept getting distracted by the horse party in the background LOL!!!!

    The opening looked great on both runs! Lovely blind on 4 and he really never had to look at you – smooth and FAST!

    He also went pretty directly to the correct end of the tunnel #8, which is good, we really don’t the dogs looking at us too much there.
    Nice job using your collection cue before 10 to get him turned for the threadle at :22!, and even better timing of it at 1:25 (that was really fabulous timing, and his turn was lovely :))
    You rotated on the threadle and he looked at you a lot – I am not sure where he is in his threadle understanding, but let’s see if you can rotate less and move forward, with the verbal and upper body bringing him in and out but your feet moving forward the whole time. You can do it walking to start for now, then we can work back up to run run running 🙂

    I am impressed at how well he turned at 13 on the post turn wrap! Most Aussies simply cannot do that!! So, since he can turn like a noodle, you can decelerate sooner and do the post turn before he even passes you (staying connected of course :)) The 2nd rep there at 1:33 was definitely earlier than the first rep, but you can push even more and make it more of a send past you and go, to challenge his commitment in collection.

    The 16-17 tunnel threadle moment bit you on the first rep at :37 (you said the in in cue but he didn’t know it was coming and you were moving forward). At :50 on the second rep, you gave him his right right and a little lateral motion – perfect! You used the right verbal and in in really well (plus good motion) on the 2nd I’ll run at 1:42 – I think you held his attention on you for the in in a bit too long there, getting extra strides. When he is turning nicely over 16, can you do the in in more like you were doing for 6-7-8, where you cued it and kept moving, letting him find the line independently.

    The ending line looked GREAT on the first run! You were just running, connected, yelling the verbals – he nailed it. Not much extra handling needed when you do that! I think a different verbal for the backside circle wrap here versus the backside slice at 4 will help him set up an even better turn there, because he won’t need to wait to know which way you are running. At :58, he landed somewhat straight and turned when he landed when he saw where you were. On the 2nd run, I think you were not necessarily too early… he was turned and looking at the jump! It is a commitment we can build up: you can move forward when you see him turning and looking at the jump at 1:46, but keep looking back at him and at the landing spot as you move through. If you look forward too soon (which is what happened at 1:46) he might flip away from the jump – the extra connection should help and then you can toss a reward to the landing side as you move through.

    The last rep was just a tired dog, tired momma moment 🙂 Overall, I think this looked great! Let me know what you think!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Artie Ross & Lin #37812
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    Thanks for the tunnel chaos video 🙂 Looking at the moments when she went into the tunnel with no questions versus when she did not, I think two things were happening:
    First, the handling was a little unclear on the cues when she didn’t go in (hesitant at :14, :23, :42 for example) – on those reps, you were looking forward and turning your shoulders away, so connection was not clear, plus there were 2 tunnel entries so she was not 100% sure.

    Second, she doesn’t love tunnels to begin with… and she was not getting any reward for doing them, and even had a momma’s mad moment when yu stopped and looked at her and she went off and sniffed (plus they were dark it was probably a million degrees inside them). So with the low rate of reinforcement and not being high value in the first place – she isn’t going to naturally choose them.

    So with all that in mind – strengthen the connection to the tunnel you want, with your arm back and eyes on her eyes. And, throws tons and tons of reward to the tunnel exit to build the love, which will help so the handling is not needing to be perfect.

    Standard course:

    I like the choice of handling in the opening! You can trust her more at 2: stay connected but move through, you don’t need to stay between the uprights with an arm cue – that made you a little late for the in in at 3 so she was a little wide there.

    Very nice line across the back to the dog walk! Clear verbals and acceleration! Great job running up that line to get the threadle to the 12 tunnel. Because it is a huge run, you don’t need to look at her but you will want to use verbals to help support her when you are not looking – you got really quiet and weren’t connected, so she was looking at you a bit.

    Nice threadle after the a-frame!!! She looked at you when she got off the frame, which means the threadle can start while she is on the frame and that way she can go directly to the jump. You can try starting it as her front feet are reaching the yellow.

    2nd video, now she knew where the weave entry was! Nice! I think you can be that far ahead for the rear there, but drive more of a rear cross diagonal and decelerate to set the turn. You ran to the wing closer to the frame so she thought it was a straight line, so she was surprised when you pushed in for the rear.

    3rd video – this opening works too! Ideally you would lead out more laterally, so you can get to the takeoff side of 3 before she gets to the takeoff side of 3, basically setting a German turn to tighten up the turn to the teeter. I think this opening is more yardage for the handler with the same result… so the first option you ran will work better if you leave 2 sooner: you will get a great opening line and be further ahead on the big sprint around the course 🙂

    Great job on the line around the back here and the layering to meet her at 9! So nice!! And I liked your running line here on the 9-12 line – you were closer to the jumps so she had no questions (you can still add a jump verbal) and then you were way ahead even with the rear cross on 12. She was great with the in in here too! As with the first rep, she had time to look at you after the frame which means the cue can come sooner 🙂

    You TOTALLY had time for the BC on the ending line 🙂 You just gotta disconnect when she is approaching the jump after the weaves and run – don’t watch her too much there! But you set the RC line so much better and she read that really well.

    On the live class sequence: I think she was a little tired from the big courses for sure – you can run these at 12” and get her going really fast, which challenges your timing 🙂 She read it all very nicely, so definitely try it again when she is feeling fresh and pushy LOL!

    Great job on these! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Grizzly and Nelci #37810
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>About the WP and the wing, don’t worry about the picture, Linda knew how to set it up and we did this morning on Pack 1 STD course #1 with the wing, and Grizzly had no trouble with it, I didn’t even do a “practice to let him see it”, I just went and did it on the course >>

    Perfect!!

    >>So your suggestion is to not wrap him on the back sides but slice him regardless of the “distance”? I agree with you he slows down on those back side wraps, and he may be faster on the slicing regardless that it looks like more strides. I will try tomorrow.>>

    Correct, regardless of distance unless there is a 10 foot difference (which there almost never is). Walk the distance from the previous obstacle all the way through to the next obstacle or two: I bet the distance differences are really minimal. More strides in extension will be faster than fewer strides in collection when he has to slow way down. And, you can take that section, video it both ways and we can time it to know for sure.

    >>The “break” after the seesaw, yes, it is WIP, I still need to get used to releasing him with the next command instead of the “break” and he also needs to get used to it :-).

    I have found the dogs gets use to it really quickly LOL it is us humans who have a harder time 🙂

    On the video:

    The opening line looked accurate, but he was sorting it out and had to slow down to get it correct at 24” both times. On the more technical sequences, start him at 20” so he can figure out the handling without sacrificing speed. Then you can work back up to 24”.

    The middle section looked great, he was a good boy on the RDW and got the backside! The cheering and praise is why he dropped the bar at :21 and :38 – you said “YESSSS” and he looked at you, not knowing what was next: toy? Jump? So…. don’t praise him on course during technical jumping sections 🙂 The praise can be in the form of telling him what is next 🙂

    He got the line to the 12 tunnel nicely! And committed to 13 nicely! You were layering – the right verbal was a little late (he was taking off) and also you were running forward at :29, a parallel path to the line to the off course. On the next rep you were turning, which is good – just a little too soon. Be sure you reward him for all of those off courses, because he is correct – he was slowing down a lot, so we don’t want him to think he is wrong when you are sorting out the handling.

    You turned your shoulders with the right cue at :56, that worked great. You added a threadle arm though, and he almost came in too much and too the jump you were layering. I think the shoulder turn is all he needs there – when you did the shoulder turn without the threadle arm at 1:50, he was perfect 🙂

    The slice on the jump before the weaves was great! Fast and accurate! And the wing at the weaves helped too. Yay! The threadle to the slice was good too – you actually said weave too early, because it is a forward cue (meaning drive forward to an obstacle) – he was looking at the teeter was was confused for a moment. So, after the threadle, try a name call or a wrap verbal on the jump to get him to turn then add the weave verbal.

    And I like how you handled the ending on the first run – sending him away to the jump so you could layer and get to the blind, setting up a great turn on 19. Very nice! Yes, I agree with your note in the video – don’t stop him for bars. It makes him very careful and slows him down, which we don’t want.

    Live course 1: This looked good! He nicely found the backside instead of the tunnel! Super! He was thinking hard, though 🙂 So on these skills sequences, to keep his speed up, work the skills at 20” – it will get him confident on the skills, you will have to run harder and be faster with cues so it is more like a trial, and also if he has had a lot of jumping or training in that session, he will be less fatigued and practice better jumping form.

    Video 2: Discrimintion prep

    These are good sessions! For now, just stick to the jump or tunnel verbals – adding the corre corre verbals was confusing because they can be used for both. Since you have separate directionals for the jump and tunnel, you can use those but no need for the corre corre now (that was where he was making mistakes – the reward placement will tell him to get it or not). He did really well with his various directionals! Now… try not to lean or help in any way (there was some leaning and arm moving happening :)) and see if he can still do it.

    Video 3: Layering

    This is going well! You can add more motion – he was fine with you not moving a lot so we can check to be sure he can still do it when you are running.
    When you balance with the tunnel and NOT layering, see if your body cues can be the same as the layering: face forward and run, try not to turn towards him to get the turn (more like what you did at :46 when you shoulders and feet matched the position they were in for both the layering and the tunnel.
    He is also doing well with the layered threadle! At 1:06, you moved backwards which pulled him off the line. You moved backwards a little at 1:21 too – he is able to do it when you were moving forward, so try staying on the line very close to the tunnel and not using any back-and-forth motion.

    He had trouble turning to his right on the threadles, so that one doesn’t need layering yet – you can work that separately to get him more comfortable with the mechanics. He seems much more comfy turning to his left there and did really well!!

    Great job on these! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning! He is looking really great!!! We can obsess on the little tiny details 🙂

    Seq 1:
    The opening line looks good! Connection is strong, timing is strong! I agree, he is approaching the last jump in collection – could be the dog walk! Could also be you haven’t cued anything else so he is slowing down to get the reward. You can try it with a very early throw or a placed reward, to keep him driving ahead.

    Seq 2: You said right on time and turned on time… but it got lost in all of the other processing he is doing. The 2nd time you added a ‘Ripley come’ so he turned wide on the tunnel exit. The 3rd and 4th times, he knew the sequence 🙂 and also you added a decel and a tiny rotation towards him (the tunnel brake). I think he is too speedy for that: you are going to need to say the cue and leave for the next line with hustle and even a little rotation there puts you behind on a bigger course. Try repeating the right verbal a few times as well as making it more salient with a different pitch and style of delivery. It sounded like “RIGHT!” Which is similar to “break!”or a forward cue. You can drop it in pitch, make it quieter, and stretch it out: “riiiightriiightriiight” that will sound entirely different and help him process it better.

    I think some of the veering in and out over 4-5 was due to how well he knew to turn on the tunnel exit. But yes, layering is a great option here!!

    Seq 3 : This first rep was good to hash out some timing needs! Basically… you were early 🙂
    At 1:23, you were decelerated and turned to 6 before he took off for 4, so he had a question about whether 5 was in play or not. Then as you got ahead and turned to the ending he had a jumping question on 6 (head up, bar down). MUCH better on the next run here because you were later 🙂 AS he was exiting he tunnel looking for 4, you were facing the right line and then turning, so he knew it was a turn to 5 and not a turn to 6. Super!! Good verbals there and he had a lot of lovely distance too!!!

    Nice work! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Christine and Aussie Josie #37806
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    Congrats on your success in premier! It is fun to bring the trained skills into the ring and nail them! Yay! And the FEO for contacts and start lines is definitely helpful – you can use the behind the back start in places where you can send her and leave, but layering is pretty much mandatory for fast dogs and behind the back starts LOL!

    On the video:

    If you find that you are a step or two late on course openings all the time, you can try to anticipate the timing more. What I mean by that is you can start to time your cues at takeoff of the previous obstacle or anticipate when she is exiting in the tunnel. Then, you can watch her approach the previous jump and be ready for when you see her lifting off (all while running, of course :))

    The opening of this course went well – I think you can leave sooner at 2 (the threadle) – when you see her turning her head to 2, bye bye up the line you go LOL! And then you don’t need to run the curve of the course with her (meaning, don’t move along the line 3-4-5 with her: use your verbals and connection to set that line while you run across the field to 7).That way you will be ahead of her and nearing 7 as she is exiting 5.

    On the first run, your verbal left cue started on time as she was exiting the tunnel but that moment went wrong (off course tunnel) because the verbal was urgent (which she reads as “go forward!”) and the physical cues did not match it: you rotated to her, which pulled her in after the 5 tunnel, then turned back out and accelerated and that put her into the off course.
    As you worked that section, you were decelerating which helped, but facing forward: try to decel and turn, really trusting her commitment to 6 (she will stay on her line as you turn if you stay connected). Also, quiet the left verbal so she gets drawn into you – being loud propels her forward.

    Super nice job on the middle section 9-10-11-12-13! The backside at 12 was great, especially after the rear cross!!!

    On the threadle: I don’t think she fully understands the circle threadle (Charm had the same questions in her video) so you can play with that arm cue: use 2 arms, nice and low, to get her attention then turn her away from you in a circle – first on the flat and then we add it to the jump. More on that coming in the next games package.

    Ending line: after the 15 tunnel t :52, you decelerated and turned… and she did the 6-7 line. So save that for the opening and accelerate into the 15-16-17 line, leaning forward and the tunnel verbal can get really loud here. And when you have said the whoa cue… don’t hang out on the 18 jump after the tunnel because she is coming at you like a speeding race car LOL! You got out of the way at 1:12, but you can trust her commitment to find the line and just run into the blind there, no need to stand still and cue it.

    Course 2:
    I like the BC in the opening! Lead out more (towards 2) so you can be another step or two ahead. The blind was a little late (she was over the bar of 3 when you started it at 1:21 and 2:07) Also, stay more connected to her eyes – the disconnect on the way to the 7 tunnel at the beginning got a zigzag line (that tunnel placement is a ‘get out’ line here, so a very strong connection will smooth out her line to it) and the disconnection to accelerate to the BC at 2:06 caused her to pull the bar.

    On the middle section (9-10-11-12) I think you had too much decel so she was checking in with you. You can power through that and use your shoulder turns and verbals, deceling when there is a change in direction.

    Nice wrap on 13! You can decelerate even sooner at 1:38 2:25 and you might find a spin there is even easier to get the turn – with the decelerated post turn, you are still facing forward as she is jumping so she has to wait for more info as she lands. With a spin, you are rotating to the tunnel before she takes off, so she will see the new direction before landing.

    And on the 14 and 17 tunnels, she needs you to be past her in order to get her to commit to the tunnel, so face forward longer til she is a step past you. On the 14 tunnel on the 2nd run, you were facing forward but as she passed you, you stepped back and said whoa, so she didn’t commit. O the last 17 tunnel, you faced forward long enough for her to get it. So, this might make you laugh: she needs more tunnel commitment 🙂 Separately, you can have a little tunnel fun and send her backwards into a tunnel so you can leave early like you wanted to do here.

    Nice job getting her to the circle wrap backside at the end and moving through it without stopping to help her! She had a question (bar down) on the jump after the tunnel – you were serping at 2:35 but as she lifted off, you looked forward and released your serp arm by moving it forward, which changes the exit line: keep your serp arm back and eyes on her til she has landed and turned to face the next jump.

    Question (hard to hear the verbals): do you have the same backside verbal for the slice and for the wrap? She was slicing it and waiting to see the handling before deciding to turn when she landed. Having a wrap verbal for the backside (different from front side wraps) will help get a better turn there.

    Great job on these! Let me know what you think!!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Donna and Charm #37804
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    The opening looked good! Nicely timed left at 6-7. You got a little quiet during the middle section, letting the physical cues do the “talking” but you can definitely add more verbals there too! You used more verbals on the 2nd rep, and they were earlier which really helped (especially the backside verbal at 11-12).

    For the threadle at :21 – call her after she lands from 12 and looks at 13, so she is prepared for the threadle cue at 14. You surprised her while she was over the bar there. On the 2nd rep, you had a bit of decel there which helped. Then, try not to pull away from 14 because then she didn’t know you wanted her t o turn back to it. Try to run directly at the wing of 14, giving just enough room to let her get past you – that’ll help her find the line. You were moving away then moving back, so she was relying on footwork when ideally, it is just upper body and verbals that get the cue to her.

    Where you intending the slice or wrap there? It was hard to tell, until the last rep where it was the wrap. Try to use your hands more – keep them lower and turn her away on the flat to the jump, rather than using your motion to pull her away then turn her back.

    Wow, course 2 went well!! Nice blind 3-4, with the threadle cue to help out! I think you can drive more into the tunnel #8, you were decelerating and she looked at you til you started accelerating again.
    The whole 9-10-11-12 section was very smooth. And all she needed for the wrap at 13 was a little decel. Very nice!
    Before the last tunnel entry, call her for the turn before she takes off for the jump before it. She was jumping straight to the wrong end of the tunnel at :31 and adjusted when she landed.
    The ending line looked great!

    >> I’m really struggling to get that tunnel break cue out. Not sure why that one is so hard for me.

    Yes, on both of these courses, your whoa cues were late (when she was almost done with the tunnel). To help get good timing, you can put a leash as a line on the ground 6 feet of more in front of the tunnel entry, as a focal point for you: when she arrives at the line, start your whoa cue 🙂 That’ll give you a concrete spot to working on being on time.v

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Linda, Mookie , Buddy & Alonso #37801
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! You’ve been busy!

    I’m so glad you love your puppy, he seems so cool 😎
    Sounds like the dogs are doing well with the layering!
    You can show Buddy that threadle rear cross without the layering first, then add distance… then add the layer. As soon as he understands the threadle rear maneuvers, the layering will be easy. 🙂

    >>>Mookie when I was clear with my hand cues and verbals of what I wanted, could layer a threadle/ rear in either direction. I think my clear handling this time prevented a confusion and getting stuck in a vortex. Mookie needs very clear conisitent cues to the letter :). He has 40 rules I need to follow
    But, he is fun to watch once we (I) get it together

    Ha! I believe it! I can totally relate about all the rules rules rules hahaha

    >>I also fit in some of the pop outs . So glad you did this as my space is small and these are fun to work on. Both Mookie and Buddy nailed the short tunnel discrimination and the layering pop ups. So much fun !!!!

    Awesome! I figured the pop outs would be easy to do for people who don’t have a ton of room or who don’t feel like setting full courses haha

    >>hope I can watch the Live Zoom next week but it depends how my husband is doing post op surgery. Glad you are recording these

    We will miss you if you aren’t there, but fingers crossed for an easy surgery for hubby!!

    Thanks for the update, it sounds like the dogs are doing amazing. 🙂
    Tracy

    in reply to: Kristie & Keiko #37799
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >> To answer your question about front side verbals: over, back, wrap, turn (rear cross). For us, digdig is a tight turn out of the tunnel. So suggestions for a verbal for a backside wrap around the wing?

    Maybe something like checkcheckcheck or zip zip?

    >>At this point, I’ve just used body motion and chest/eye looking to the landing.

    That has been effective for a long time, but now the judges have outsmarted us and made courses big enough that we can’t count on physical cue.

    Seq 3 looked really good!! Your German turn on the backside looked strong, especially the 2nd run where you helped her with the bar a lot less. She seems to have really strong commitment to it, so you can just keep moving through and help her less. And she loved chasing you up the ending line, TONS of speed 😍
    For the turn at 3 – you can consider a reverse spin but I don’t think you need it. That’s a whole lot of work and we don’t want to anger your Achilles!! Instead, I think we can try your decel sooner, and that little brake arm/FT sooner too. You were doing as she was jumping 3, so she couldn’t adjust til landing. Try beginning a decel when she lands from 2, and when she is about halfway between 2 and 3, you can do a soft brake hand and name call. That should be perfect without all the rotation.
    Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

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