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  • in reply to: Helen & Changtse (8 mo old Brittany) #39222
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    She is doing well with her foot targeting! She definitely has lots of value and was happy to move away from you on the banana line 🙂

    I think she is having trouble differentiating the target from the ground here, mainly because the target is a little smaller for her stride right now – she is getting the first back foot on easily but that 2nd back foot is not hitting as clearly. You can make the target a little longer and even elevate it a tiny bit (attach it securely to a piece of wood so it is maybe and inch or two tall). That way you can make the 2nd back foot – most of the rewards had a clear back foot in and the 2nd back foot carried over the target. I like to stare tat the target til I see the 2nd back foot hit it, then reward. And the slightly bigger target will set her up for success.

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Helen & Changtse (8 mo old Brittany) #39220
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Blocking the end of the teeter is a good idea as soon as the youngsters have value for it 🙂 Don’t let her start it without you, it is a by-permission-only obstacle LOL!

    She definitely was loving the squeeze cheese, no problem convincing her to run up the teeter board! Yay!

    No need to combine the 2 games – the angles can be for a lower more stable board, and the mountain climbers with the teeter can be used to get speed with straight entries, and work on things like you moving alongside, getting more speed, Changtse holding position while you walk past, etc. and the dismount so she doesn’t fall. Puppies make poor choices with things like hopping off, so be sure to help her 🙂 I am glad she got back on so easily 🙂

    Nice work!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Jen & River #39219
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Course 2: I think you were feeling the increase in speed because your handling required a lot more running 🙂 There were some discombobulation moments early in the video with your arms flying around LOL! But in general, this went really well: her increase commitment allows you to get to more places with good timing, so you were able to work a lot of skills.

    Also, you did a great job of powering through the lines with low arms and good connection!!

    Mostly small details/ideas for you:
    Give her more room on the first jump, at least 3 or 4 meters, She needs to be set up a lot further from jump 1 so she can get over it, especially with you that close (she dropped it the first time and was careful about it the second time).

    One other small detail: save the go for true go lines – you were mostly good about using directionals but there were some moments of go go go right on the lines – using ‘right’ is plenty there because we don’t want to dilute the go (which means straight and we don’t want her asking if it will be followed by a turn).

    She really smoked you at 2:09 and at 3:28! Don’t decel on those lines, race her out to see if you can get to the reward first 🙂 And she did well with the tunnel discriminations, but she was totally expecting them and not driving forward as much (there was a lot of repetition in that section). So, instead of doing the reps the same way, mix it up more: some threadles, some go straight to the tunnel in front of her, and some getting in there for blinds (she will like the acceleration and sheer panic of those LOL!)

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Jen & River #39218
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>River has enjoyed these GO drills so much, she won’t hold her station behaviour anymore and creeps slowly forward to join me on the field, so that has been nice to see. She wants to keep playing.>>

    Ha! Yes, I can see she is liking the big fast lines and LOTS of rewards! There were some bars down due to reward throws and one bar down because you set her up too close to jump 1 (course 2) but otherwise she is jumping with a lot of power here!

    Nice go and reward in the opening! And after the tunnel! I like the threadle opening on rep 1 more than the FFC because it gets you moving sooner.

    One idea for the continued go training: After saying go and seeing the thrown reward, you can take things up a notch by racing her to the reward and try to get there first! If you win, you party with it. That will get even more go go go go 🙂 And also it will prevent you from decelerating by accident on those lines.

    I am super happy with the acceleration at 1:12! and at 1:33! She was watching the turn cues before those lines, and then it is like she turned on rocket burners when she heard the Go verbal 🙂 Perfect!

    Onwards to course 2!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Donna and Charm #39217
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Glad you liked them and you definitely had a lot of good stuff going on 🙂

    First video (marked jumpers 1 but it is jumpers 2)

    One general thing for both courses – tell her how to exit all tunnels before she enters them, when she is still about 4 or 5 feet from the entry. You tend to get quiet after the tunnel cue and tell her what you want when she exits: so if she can’t see you, she has questions about the next line. So plan your exit cues for every tunnel 🙂

    Try to layer the 3-4-5 line so you can get right to 6-7 to get her to turn – you didn’t tell her to turn other than a name call as she was over 6 and a fast blind so she stayed on her line. Try cues started when she lands from 5 – a left verbal and decel and an earlier blind
    you did a decelerated send/FC to get her to take it, but the layering can make it all much easier from the get-go 🙂

    At :58 on jump 16, you got the Rear cross:

    >>I tried a spin but she read it as a rc. I get that a lot so rarely do them.

    I think a transition from acceleration to deceleration then a foot rotation before she passes you will fix that. You accelerated with your feet facing the RC line then cut in behind her, so it totally did look like a RC. As she is taking off for 15, shift into a decel and turn and face the wrap wing. Then after you decel, you can turn your feet so she is passing your rotated feet near the wrap wing (the toilet turn LOL)

    You did the decel and faced the wing more at 1:14, so she knew it was a left turn! Just add the foot rotation after that so you will be able to incorporate the spin too to get the backside of 17

    2nd video, jumpers 1 (marked jumpers 1)

    Nice opening line and good verbal timing for the first tunnel – it was a really forceful verbal, though, so it might have propelled her straight more than convinced her to turn? Also, you were late on the BC so she was wide on the exit

    You got a bit quiet at :16 for the 7 tunnel so she curled into you – and on the go cue, your shoulder turned to the red tunnel so she had a question It might be an ‘out’ cueto get 8 more than a Go because there is a lead change away from you involved with getting the jump.

    Nice blind to the threadle! It was alsmost perfect – to get her to take the 11 jump, move to the bar on the threadle rather than run away from it towards 12. The German is actually harder, because you have to be more lateral like you were on the last rep – the blind to threadle is easier to get to for sure.

    Nice rotation on the jump after the weaves, and nice patience to wait til she committed to take it! And remember to call her before she goes into tunnel 17 at the end, so she comes out turned and ready for tunnel 17 🙂

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Kristie & Keiko #39216
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! I like how you worked through this process! Yes, keep working on the low arms, I think they looked good here!

    One thing is for sure: She hates these wrap starts LOL! Sorry, Keiko! LOL!

    Looking at the handling decisions:
    I like handling on the 4-5-6 line on the side you chose. The BC 4-5 might send her a bit wide towards the DW here, because the motion of blind turns your shoulders and feet towards the dog walk.

    Handling the ending line with her on your left puts her on a right lead over 6 so you would need to be away ahead to push her out to 7.

    One other option is the FC instead of the BC – it puts you on the better side for this sequence and takes out the possibility of the DW.

    At 1:20 on the first run, she looked at the DW a little – she didn’t seem to look at it at all on the 2nd run and looked at it the most at 1:54 on run 3. It was a little hard to see it all because she was out of camera view for a moment, but my guess is the timing of the BC was causing her to look (or not look) so the BC there would need to be nice and early, like it was on rep 2.

    She read the line perfectly and didn’t look at the yellow tunnel on the first rep, but was looking at it on the 3rd rep after going through it on rep 2 LOL! The out to the tunnel looked great on the 2nd rep, no questions from Keiko and lots of speed. To keep her focused on the jumps on rep 3, you can give her the ‘here over’ after she lands from 4 and before takeoff of 5.

    Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Brandy & Nox (Sheltie) #39213
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    >>I ran this before I posted the last couple of videos and got feedback (just didn’t have to edit them before), so I already know that I didn’t do the walk through fast enough, lol.

    Ha! Yes! I have decided that if the walk through feels comfortable, then we are probably not moving fast enough LOL!

    Nice opening line in the walk through! A couple of things that stood out in the walk through:
    At :11. it looks like you pulled away from tunnel 5 too soon with 15 right there, so be sure to drive her into those lines to be sure she commits, especially with layering options available.
    Yes, at :24, you were looking a an invisible dog that landed from the jump when you were starting the FC, which rehearses the late FC. Good catch to notice it was happening!

    At :25 – Your feet were facing the slice line there and also at 13 at :37, so it is possible she won’t turn tight or even turns the wrong way on the jump. She would need to see rotated feet facing the next line at 12, so she knows it is a wrap

    On the first run – the opening looked good and then at 1:00 you pulled away from tunnel too soon. That is a hard commitment with the off course jump right there!
    On the 2nd run:
    Handling from the other side of 2 totally get you up the line sooner. Nice!!! You were decelerating as you were trying to get 5 at 2:46, so be sure to separately work on tunnel sends while you decelerate to go the new direction (without an off course jump there, no layering at first, then add it back eventually). Decelerating is not a bad thing, as longas she knows to keep going to the tunnel (lots of thrown rewards to the tunnel exits will help)

    Nice job working through the timing of the jump after the weaves! On the first run, the blind at the weaves was late: it needed to happen when she is in the weaves so you were not able to get the FC after jump at 1:18. That blind was earlier and looked but much better at 2:59 and you got the FC in! Super!! That FC is hard to time, because it has to happen basically as soon as she exits the weaves – so you would have to do the BC even earlier to be ready for the FC. A 2nd BC there might be quicker, because you don’t have to rotate your feet, you can just switch connections.

    In moments when you try to re-send from your side, the info isn’t clear and she spins and barks a lot, like at 1:19 when you were trying to re-send her to the tunnel. Try to settle her into a stay or do a bit of ‘shadow handling’ where you have her stay at your side and you do a full circle on the flat (a small circle) then get running again

    Yes, you were late with the DW cues and got quiet so she came off the line in the 2nd run, nice adjustment when you resent her through there!

    On the first run, she sliced long on 12 but did come back to the left turn, but that set up the off course. When you worked that section again at 2:30 (11-16) – much better rotation at 12 so the turn was really nice, plus you were connected and that set up the next line really nicely! And in the 2nd run a 3:39, 12 looked great! It looks like you turned your feet a bit too soon on the 13 jump at 3:42 so she pulled off it, it is like she was reading rear cross pressure and pinged away because you moved into the line too early. Let her get past your feet before you move forward to 14.

    15-16 looked really good each time, with 16 as the tunnel and 16 as the jump! LOL! Nice!!

    One other idea for you:
    For the contacts, when they are in the full course, put a target out to help her so you can run instead of walk in those sections, and she can be more successful.

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Kim and Sly #39212
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!
    You’ve been busy!!!

    He looks great here on the run! The start jump placement makes the line a little harder here but the other option is a threadle which would be weird LOL!

    Lovely backside commitment on 3, allowing you to move ahead nicely! The send to 4 then the line across the back with the frame-jump-RDW was lovely! He let you peel away to get the next line after the RDW – you might want to see if you can go closer to the a-frame so you can send to the next jump and the DW… and layer the line of jump so you can get to the next spot even sooner 🙂 Th ending line looked great! And nice rewards for the wrap at the beginning; he is showing a lovely balance of being able to go REAL FAST and also turn really tight when asked 🙂

    Thanks for the trial video! Both runs were gorgeous!
    He is looking more comfy on he start line with both of these!! He is almost as explosive as he is in practice off the line now – yay!!1

    >>. I knew the choice to run the whole line with dog on the left in T2B could turn out to be a really bad idea but knew we had a good send and I didn’t like any of the other options at all so WTH..go for it!

    I loved the choice! You went for it and nailed it. The other options were all sorts of crosses which could easily go poopy. And since you had to hustle to get to the line on the left side, he was in high speed extension and still read the turn. YAY!!!

    The standard course looked good too. I agree that the bar was just a late cue. The decel can begin while he is in the air over the previous jump – on the run, the decel started at 1:01 when he was already preparing for takeoff. So he took off in extension going straight then dropped his back feet trying to make the turn. The rest of the run was great and the blind before the frame was GORGEOUS!!! And I also looked the brake hand on the panel jump before the weaves – lovely!! That brake hand can be QUITE useful in AKC where it seems the dogs are getting off course options everywhere 🙂

    Great job!!! I am looking forward to the connection sequences!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Rebecca and Maggie (NSDTR #39209
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Nice work on these!
    Some thoughts for you:

    Video 1
    – yes, you were sending her nicely but ideally you would stay on the other side of the tunnel. The trick is to start very close to the first jump so that it is easier to send her past the tunnel and not end up past the tunnel on your running line

    2nd and 3rd videos –
    these were better! Now… keep moving 🙂 bearing in mind that it is layering and not a gamble or send, try to be in motion the whole time rather than stopping and throwing the toy. To make the toy throws easier, you can have the toy either already in the throwing arm, or placed out on the line before you send her to it

    video 4- Yes, focus on the momentum of getting her to drive away from you so you don’t end up past the tunnel. She was happy with the toy throw there LOL!

    video 5 – the right/left verbals and tunnel verbal worked beautifully on all 3 reps! Keep moving on these too – we want her to see you running on all of these.

    video 6 – you noted that she needs motion in the video title and I agree – running will support the layering a whole lot! She did a great job of going to the other side of the tunnel. She can still see your motion as you were moving: at :16, you turned and took a step to your left so she (correctly) came off the line. At :37 and when you switched sides, you remained on a parallel line to her and she stayed on her line. Yay!

    Video 7 – you were a bit too far from the first jump so at :17, there was no momentum into the layering line and she didn’t go. Start very close to the wrap jump and then run forward into the send, so she is already in extension, making it much easier to layer. You are using a ‘hup’ verbal (here and in the other videos) which is a soft verbal… The GO works better as it helps propel the dogs out on the lines. Keep saying it though. At :27 you said it once and got quiet and turned away, so she was not sure where to be.

    Also, either run with the toy or plant it at the end of the line. Leaving it near the tunnel doesn’t allow for you to specifically reinforce the layering skill. She layered really nicely at the end, but there was no cue to NOT take the front of the last jump. So rather than worry about the layering and the threadle, just work the layering on this setup and train the threadle separately (see above).

    So overall for the layering:
    – don’t get to far ahead at the start; start close to the jump so you have momentum into it
    – run! no more walking or standing still 🙂
    – throw or place the toy out on the line
    – use big loud verbals and repeat them lots and lots 🙂
    – skip the threadle element of this for now as you train it separately.

    Last video: Discriminations
    She did really well with these! I think you can be doing these with more speed now too – rather than walking, you can send her into these and run run run with the verbals and handling.

    Great job! let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Rebecca and Maggie (NSDTR #39208
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    I think this is a good place to start, to build threadle understanding:

    ESC: Threadle Wraps

    You will be able to get her to come to the correct side of the jump, which is the biggest piece of the puzzle 🙂

    Tracy

    in reply to: Linda & Hoke #39206
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    I think the walkthrough videos really help sharpen up our handling with the dogs!

    >>It’s hard to simulate in your walk through running as fast as you will with the dog!

    So true! The key is to always go faster than you think you have to go 🙂 This is definitely the case hree – your speed on the walk through was about 2/3rds of the speed you need when actually running him. So if your speed in a walk through feels comfortable, you are probably not running fast enough 🙂

    Connection is looking good on many sections of these courses! The main thing here is to think about where he will be and when he needs to see/hear the cues, so you know where to be looking when connecting. We can see where the invisible dog would be, based on where you look when you are cuing the lines or turns.

    Sequence1: On the walk through, you were cuing the wrap as the invisible dog was taking off for it ( you were looking ahead at the wrap jump as you started cuing it). So your position near the wrap jump is not that important -the more important timing is to start to give him the info as he is in the air over the 2nd jump so he can choose a takeoff spot for the wrap jump. The video under of the run is actually sequence 2 not sequence 1, can you re-post seq 1?

    Seq 2 was definitely harder with the connections and timing! Your line to 3 was really good on the walk through – remember that he is behind you at this point as you arrive at 3, so be looking back behind you to cue the backside then decelerate and be patient to let him get past you to 3 before you move again. You had really strong connection on the exit of the FC 3-! And yes, I think more connection on the 4-5-6 line will help, so that is where doing it faster will help: running faster but looking behind you and turning your shoulders sooner.

    On the run, you can see on the first run that you were not expecting to have to wait for him to get past you and almost pushed into his line to soon – and on the 2nd run you did push in to 4 too early so he pushed off the line. So looking behind you as you practice the line will be good to help remember to decel to send him past you there.

    Be patient for him to past you to the backside wrap, you almost pushed him off the line

    On the 4-5-6 line connection is important, but also shoulder turn and verbals will help too: you can turn your shoulders to 6 sooner and also call him (you were really quiet there). So as soon as he lands from 4 and looks at 5, you can be turning and calling him to show the line to 6.

    On seq 3 – On this push to 3, remember that he is behind you so you will want to ‘see’ the invisible dog land from the first jump so you can be cuing it before takeoff for 2. On the video at :04 the invisible dog was already ahead of you so you were late with the out cue. Very nice connection on the exit of the FC 4-5!

    On the run – the timing of the out cue was the same as you walked it, which was late (he was in the air over 2) o the bar came down. Also, the verbals were different than the ones you used in the walk through. I think that rattled you and you lost the connection after the 4-5 FC and that bar came down too The next run was really nice!

    So I have an idea for you to get the speed and connection needed for the walk through that a couple of others are doing here too: do this exercise in reverse. Run Hoke on it once. Then walk it a couple of times, then run him again. Try to reproduce the speed and connections you used in the run, during that walk through – then that 2nd run should be really good and you will also have a better handle on the speed, timing and connection of the walk through. Then we will be able to do it as the walk-then-run 🙂

    Nice work! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Chata and Tina #39205
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning! She is doing a great job with all of life’s distractions 🙂 And the tugging looked great too!

    >> Right blinds to wraps- my body does not like this

    Gives us insight into how hard it is for the dogs to turn to their more difficult side LOL!

    On the blind-to-wrap: you can put a leash down on the ground for your running line: you were working all of the other details but losing your line a bit as you connected with her.
    Some other ideas for you:

    On small thing: send to the tunnel more so you are further ahead and closer to the BC wing.

    An a connection idea for you –
    TL;DR – run with a delicious beverage in your hand and don’t spill it, that will fix to the arm being too far back and also remind you to decel.

    Here are the specifics:
    The line to the wing on the BC is not a send, it is a commitment while you are moving forward. I think you were sending a bit and that made it harder. For example at :30 – keep your connection a bit more forward the whole time. You had your arm way back, almost threadling, as she exited the tunnel but then moved it forward and rolled your shoulders so she didn’t take the wing. You got it on the next rep but facing the wing longer but she barked at you and then the BC was late.

    The rep at 1:08 was more like what I am describing above, and I think it will be a little easier if you relax the connection arm a bit. I know I tell everyone to have the dog-side arm back, but if you pull it too far back it pulls the dog off the line 🙂 so have it back as if you are casually carrying a beverage. If it is too far back, you’ll spill your drink and you will feel a pull in your lats and rib area. I posted the drink-in-hand game for kicks in the Course Syllabus section 🙂

    That more causal arm position will also help make the blind quicker (because you won’t need to unravel the rotation then change sides and then you will be quicker to connect – that will also give you time to step forward into the wrap. If you try to rotate fast and hit the brakes like at 1:50, she will ask questions. A transition of fast, slow, rotate will smooth it all out 🙂

    The rep at 2:27 showed a good example of the casual dog side arm and connection, and how it quickens the blind and gives you time to make the transition into the next wing. NICE!!!! Compare it to the next rep from the same starting point at 3:00 with the arm all the way back – the BC was late and so was the cue for the wing, so she ended up between your feet LOL!

    On the countermotion moment at 3:29, you did a slam on the brakes and rotated into her before she was past you so she had an Uber moment of checking out. Remember to decel into the rotation, and with pups don’t do the big rotation til she is passing you. You can keep her from Uber-ing by continuing to move to the tunnel and rewarding, as if it was exactly what you wanted 🙂

    Great job! I think this is a perfect time of year for running with a cold drink in your hand – you will feel the moment your arm swings too far back then forward, and you will also feel the moment you skip the decel and slam on the brakes (because you will be wearing the drink LOL!!!)

    Have fun! 🙂
    Tracy

    in reply to: Ginger and Sprite #39204
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning! Sorry to hear about the crazy temperature!!

    >> We’ve just started in a live class about two months ago. She’s taking off and running the field. All of the dogs out are a lot for her and she’s not staying focused on me or work.

    That definitely sounds difficult, and a lot of pressure. For my home-schooled dogs, I always put them in classes or seminars that are several levels below what they can do, so I can work on play, focus, pattern games, etc rather than agility skills. That has really helped!

    On the decel video:

    >> You can’t see from this angle, but no motion is NOT a slow down cue for her. I wasn’t getting a check stride at all with me standing still. She did better with the sends.

    I think this was a really good first session! She was changing her striding and setting up the turns – the Aussie version of it will look more like my Hot Sauce’s version of it (due to the powerful shoulders and structure) and less like my BorderWhippet who is built like a spaghetti noodle (so you can see that little chip step differently than we would on an Aussie). And because my youngsters are older so I have more quantifiable comparisons: although Hot Sauce’s turns look wider, she knows where to go and regularly puts down times that are faster than Contraband’s times. They move differently but respond really well! Sprite is younger than they are but she is on the same path as Hot Sauce, so I am not worried about her turns at all 🙂

    She was surprised on the very first rep (most young dogs do exactly the same thing on the first rep of this game) but then did really well on the rest! She is where she needs to be on the bar (close to the wrap wing), turning her head, and sorting out how to get collection and make the turn without bleeding off speed. She is a little better turning to her left at the moment, the right turns were not quite as good but they came along really nicely!

    She had a question at 1:13, but that was a connection question because you were not looking at her or looking over you right side. You had more connection at 1:24 and she did great.

    >> Then, maybe slightly better with me still afterwards. What else can I do to help her understand this concept?>>

    Totally better with standing still after the sends! It is a training game, so needs to be repeated as part of the cycle of games. And you will be able to leave sooner for her to chase you for the toy, as soon as you see her front feet leave the ground, you can turn and run and have her chase you for the toy 🙂

    She did well on the tunnel game! Fun! You nailed it. Getting past the tunnel o the wing behind it is a pure connection cue from the handler… and she had no questions! YESS!! Because if she had a question, she would be in that tunnel behind you LOL!!!! You had two things happening that really helped (ok, 3 things, because your verbals were really good too):
    – you had excellent arm back, eye contact connection so she knew where to be
    – you were patient in you holding that connection while moving past the tunnel to show the wing after it, rather than closing your shoulder forward.
    And you nailed it multiple times. YAY!!!!
    OK, watching it again, there is a 4th thing you did really well: running great lines. The line from the wing to the tunnel was great, and it looked very different from the line you ran when you didn’t want the tunnel after the wing wrap. Super!

    Great job! Let me know what you think!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Lori And Beka (BC, 11Months) #39201
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    The serps looked good here! She is really getting the idea, so this session was more about you sorting out the spin on the tunnel 🙂 The post turn was just putting you too far away, and she was not able to see the line because you were behind. The spin looked great!

    >> Sorta did and sorta didn’t forget to use our ‘right’ entering the tunnel. A comment was made recently that she is turning somewhat wide on those commands out of tunnels so is it useful to use them if not getting the expected result. She has almost exclusively only done straight tunnels when using those commands so far. the last couple are the first time using a curved tunnel that I can think of. Thoughts?>>

    I think she is what, 13 months old? We are not looking for perfection in the turns. If you are cuing it nice and early, and getting a decent approximation of the turn? Use the verbal so she can learn it, and learn what it predicts in terms placement of reinforcement and where to go for the next line. If she is shooting straight out of the tunnel, either the verbal cues are really late, or the physical cues are not supporting the verbals, or both 🙂 Or the environment is too challenging. Or all of the above. Based on what she did here, those turns can all have been cued with the right verbal. More on that below.

    >> Question as I couldn’t tell from the video for this one. What is your verbal for the RC wrap away from you?

    I use my regular directionals (wrap left or wrap right).

    >>Beka isn’t really getting the concept yet of dig means wrap right regardless of where I am and of course it will take some time to get her to understand that and wondering if it is really the right approach to use the same verbal.>>

    Young dogs take a while to learn that the verbal is the verbal, regardless of position. We haven’t even started cracking into that yet LOL! I find the directionals to be far better than ‘towards’ or ‘away’ because the first thing the dogs need to do on ‘towards’ or ‘away’ is process where I am. And if I am not in the picture, or the physical cues don’t support the verbals, or I am using countermotion… it gets confusing to the dogs and frustrating for them.

    On this exercise, yes, theoretically use the verbals – but if you were having trouble cuing the correct lines initially, I would take the verbals off til I know I can get the correct behavior, then put them back on. So you can do one rep of each without the verbal, just physical cues. And if you get it? Add the verbals back on. This session went well, overall!
    On the Go cues, keep moving as you throw (or leave the toy placed out ahead). Try not to decelerate to throw as you say go, as that can override decel.

    For the check wrap towards you: it will be easier on the full sequence, so you can face the wrap wing forward. She bowed out a bit because because you were trying to rotate on time, and that was causing a bit of pressure into her line.

    For the backside versus the rear – yes, she was correct on the first rep where she went to the backside. The motion and toy placement both said backside and that overrode the verbal. If something happens and she ends up with t he toy, praise her, thank her, and then try again – the ‘leave it’ was too harsh especially since she was not exactly wrong (she would have had to run across your feet to get to the rear cross if the verbal was overriding it). Putting the leash down as the line for the RC will help!

    >> I really don’t know how I am going to get up for the RC and the backside once we get to including the jump before the tunnel.

    Don’t go anywhere near the tunnel 🙂 Go directly to the jump after the tunnel so you can set the lines 🙂 Being laterally away from 1 on the lead out will totally help!

    Nice work here!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Lori And Beka (BC, 11Months) #39176
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Nice work on the serps here!

    She did a super job with the serps on sequence 1! Totally flat is a bit too hard for her (in terms of serping the line) so keep the jumps slightly angled for a few more sessions (and any session away from home, to help her generalize the skill). Then you can inch them flatter so she barely notices the change 🙂 The change was a bit too noticeable here.

    2nd video was also really strong! Finding the serp in front of a tunnel is hard, so breaking it down and back chaining a bit was great and really helped her. Keep those jump angled wide for now so she gets comfy with that and then we can flatten them out too.

    When you start on the other side of the tunnel (jump tunnel then the serp on your left side) in the 2nd half: Rather than post turn to face the tunnel, cue it and let her see a spin as you get to your left side. The post turn cues a straighter exit on the tunnel, so the repeated bek bek bek did bring her back to the jump – but a spin will cue a tighter turn so she will exit facing the jump (plus it gets you up the line sooner and more easily :)) You can also use your ‘right’ verbal for the tunnel exit there, so she hears it before she enters the tunnel.

    Nice work! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

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