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Yeah darn dogs, ratting us out when our words sound the same hahaha!
And also – don’t let yourself think you have time to get someplace, because you don’t with her on these small setups LOL!!T
Good morning!
This setup totally worked, and it is great to have more room to run!
She was very speedy here even when you were walking, and that is great – we want that balance of self-propulsion AND some handler focus for cues and turns! Then when you asked for more speed by adding your running – wheeee! Good girl!Her commitment looked really good. And her feedback about your timing was spot on 🙂 You might be watching her a bit too much, which causes you to face forward for too long in spots (rather than turning and leaving, which staying connected). Please note that it is totally normal to be in the ‘sorting out timing’ stage with young dogs, particularly as the bars get higher and she keeps getting faster 🙂
On the pinwheels, think of them more as “send and go” and not needing to round the line with her. For example, as she was approaching the middle jump at :34, you were saying right right right with a lot of energy but facing straight, so she took off straight and with energy. Then as she was lifting off, you turned and said go tunnel, so the bar came down as she adjusted. Ideally, as she is landing from the first jump, you cue the middle jump with your right verbal (with less energy, softer to cue more collection) and one step send then turn and leave. That will give her more time to organize for takeoff and turning.
You can also see her processing the info at :52-:54 – as she was approaching the middle jump, you were facing straight and said right once. So – she didn’t turn on the middle jump, based on the physical cue. Then as she landed straight, you said tunnel (which is indeed a forward cue) and so she accelerated forward to find a tunnel out there… then had a “oh crap!”moment when she realized you were turned and went past the next jump to the tunnel – GOOD GIRL 🙂You were better at 1:05 with the turning sooner and added some decel to help get the turn, but you can still be sooner by sending and turning so that your shoulders are facing the next jump when she is still halfway between the first 2 jumps (with connection of course 🙂 )
With the FC wraps: bearing in mind that the timing is more about her position not your position, you can handle it from anywhere in the pinwheel 🙂 You didn’t go in too deep – but you can also play with sending to the middle jump so you can get to the wrap wing. You don’t need to be at the wrap wing to get the turn, though, as long as she gets the info when she needs it.
Turning sooner for the middle jump will help these too, especially to the right where she seems to have a little more trouble. You can also see that at 1:49 where you didn’t turn and she landed straight and then turned to the wrap jump, which made your timing a little harder.Remember to add decel to your transitions for the wraps – and that decel should start as she is landing from the middle jump. At 1:59, you went from fast forward running to rotation, so she didn’t commit. At 2:10, you had a much more definite decel and she totally committed, super!!! So now you can start that decel (slowing down while moving forward) sooner. At 2:10 you did at as she was about halfway between the 2 jumps, but by then the takeoff decision has been made so she couldn’t adjust til landing. Ideally, you would start the decel when she is landing (at the latest) or even as she is in the air over the middle jump, then keep moving forwards as you decel til she is closer to the wrap jump and see collection, then rotate for the fC. That timing will continue to percolate as she gets more experienced 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
You have a good reason to start a little late… a nice vacation!
Great job here, I am pretty sure this is Dice’s definition of BEST GAME EVER haha! It is an easy way to make cookies rain from the sky! His commitment is looking really strong. You can throw sooner (before he looks back at you). And I think you can ramp this up pretty quickly – move the middle jump out, and then go to the first game from the live session (one-step sends and then you can start adding the tunnel and running 🙂And it was very cool to see him go back o the tug toy after all those cookies, and in the same spot where he ate the cookies – that is also a big victory!!!
Well done 🙂 Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
His RCs on the first video looked good, the only challenge he had was when you added a balance rep of the left wrap and he did the RC pattern again 🙂 You drove the line really well on those RCs and the RC info looked super clear. And yes, it was a simpler line for the RC then my slightly-evil setup 🙂>>Looking forward to you setting me straight.>>
Ha! It is actually more about the decel needed right at the #3 jump, before you move up the line to the center of the bar of 4 to set the RC. The decel for 3 is the make-or-break for this particular RC.
Think of these harder RCs as having a pattern of set-drive-cross. The amount of set (aka deceleration and turn to face the center of the bar) will vary, depending on how much turn the dog needs to make. On this setup, there is a good amount of turn so the set/decel lasts fairly long – you will want to get to 3 and decel, turning slightly to face the center of the bar, til he makes the turn and arrives at 3 – as he passes you, you can then move up the line to 4.
On thee, you were not quite holding onto the decel long enough so it was becoming more of a pull and flip – and so sometimes he got it, sometimes the pull didn’t late long enough so he anticipated and went to the backside (at :49 there was no decel and you said go… so he went :)) Good boy!You were able to get it without the decel on 3 but that involved moving away too much from 3, which would leave you further behind than we want (not in this sequence, because it ends in the tunnel, but in other situations). So try going right up to the wing of 3 and giving a massive decel (exaggerate for now, you won’t always need to :)) then when he is basically over the bar and looking at 4, accelerate to the center of the bar of 4. And you can totally soften the angle – you will still want to set the RC at 3, but you won’t need to hold the decel there so as long on a softer angle.
Let me know if that makes sense 🙂 These are hard RCs 🙂
Tracy
Hi!
>> I used decel and a very pronounced shoulder turn to get her on the RC jump. I think I may have waited too long to cross behind?>>
For the decel, when possible, put the decel right at the top of the RC diagonal which in this case is at the wing of the green jump after the tunnel. The big shoulder turn is more than needed, you can just decel and face the center of the green RC jump. The big shoulder turn shows too much ‘pull’ at :06 over the green jump, and the dogs think we want a right turn on those – then try to adjust late for the Rear when we get moving again (which is what happened here and why she fell a bit when she landed)
So you will end up right near the green wing, decelerating as she exits the tunnel, no big arms needed (just connection), which puts you in a great position to move along the RC line to the center of the bar when she is passing you>>I tried the push back turn to get a tight wrap. I remember in Max Pup 2 we did some foundation work for these turns. Will we be doing more with these? >>
Yes, I find these really effective too! And yes, we will be working on them because the dogs find them so easy to read 🙂
Nice work! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Great job on these, it is fun getting to know him. He is a speedy dude!!! I have a few ideas for you on how to get the info to him more clearly>>I don’t have a Come In Towards Me cue, really. For a tight turn I use his name, which I have been doing for 18 years lol, and probably need something different. I am in the process of teaching him Right and Left verbal cues. I’ve never trained them on a dog before, haven’t really needed to, but I think I need to with Mr. Speedy Dreamer.
I agree, we will get more verbals going for your sportscar 🙂 He is speedy and courses demand more independence nowadays, so we can’t rely on our physical cues as much anymore. If left and right are in progress, you can start using them as long as they are supported with handling. When you say his name on tight turns, is that for wraps? I recommend a wrap cue other than his name – and use his name for general ‘pay attention’ turns that are not that tight. In these sequences, his name can be for the tunnel exits, for example.
And, because of his speed, a big goal is to be able to stay in motion and not use a lot of deceleration – we can use it where it is needed (like big wraps) but otherwise, we will try to keep you in motion so you can always get to great position on course. I think he is a very ‘forward’ dog, meaning he drives lines and is very fast – this is good! But it also means that when we don’t need him to drive a line, we need to tell him early and often. We are also going to prioritize keeping you in motion so that you never get left in the dust 🙂
These sequences went really well! Some ideas for you about connection and timing to get him even faster:
First rep – for the exit of the tunnel, try to give him exit info before he enters it: you can tell him the go go go cue before he even enters the tunnel, about 6 feet before the entry. I think he might have slipped or something in the tunnel, he was in there was a while, comparatively speaking 🙂 The 2nd rep was smoother there but definitely tell him sooner about the go go go exit.
With that in mind: On sequence 2 (both reps), he got the turn on the tunnel with you decelerating before he took off for 2 but your verbal turn cue didn’t happen til after he was in the tunnel. Be sure to move up the timing of the turn cue for the tunnel exit to before he goes in (generally when he is 6 feet before the tunnel) – so even with the decel, he exited a bit wide, saw where you were, then adjusted and turned. The same thing was happening on sequence 3, so we will definitely look at earlier tunnel exit cues.
One thing that might help: To remind myself when to cue the exit, I will often put a marker off to the side that I can see, about 6 feet from the tunnel entry – when the dog passes the marker, I start the exit verbal. and make sure I am turning and leaving for the new direction.
With the layering and decel at :43, he was in handler focus so when you threw the toy, he was fine to take it. Be sure to cue that last jump and keep moving.
Seq 3:
You said something to him before he entered the tunnel at :53 , but I think it was tunnel? Maybe it was his name? A directional can be made to sound different, even if it is his name, by changing the pitch/rhythm/speed of which you say it. So, the timing of it here was exactly where a turn cue would go – but a softer, elongated version of the turn cue will help the turn even more.And, match the physical cue to the verbal cue: when he is about 6 feet away from the tunnel entry, you can be turning to face 4.
One thing that I also think will help his lines will be to add more connection to his eyes, and do less pointing to the line ahead of him. Arm pointing back to him and more connection to his eyes as you move will help your shoulders show the line. When you point ahead and look ahead, it actually turns your shoulders away from the line so he reads that as something different than what you want.
For example, look at :55 – :56. As he is over 4, you are pointing forward to 5 and looking forward, which turns you ever so slightly away from 5 – when he is jumping 4, he is actually turning left based on your line – then you step with your left leg a bit to the side to gt 5 and he goes)
Compare that to rep 2 at 1:12 when he is over 4 – you are looking at him more and your arm is to his eyes more which perfectly lined up your shoulders an feet to 5 – so he is looking directly at 5 and not curling in to you. YAY!
>> In skill 3, after the first rep, I thought maybe a reverse spin would work well at jump 5, and I think that worked better. He loves to jump in extension, and he’s not very good at collection. >>
Actually, I bet we can get some amazing collection with some timing tweaks! And bear in mind – he probably does not need to turn insanely tight on a lot of these lines, as long as he turns and powers through the lines.
I don’t think he needs the spin on sequence 3 – He hit the wing on the spin there at 1:13,and hesitated on landing to get the next info at 1:26. A tighter turn is not needed there for him as long as he knows he is turning,, and also it is extra handling that you would need to time to start no later than landing of 4 (you started it as he was over the bar of 5, which didn’t make a difference in the turn because of the timing).
I think a send and go will be more effective for him there – and less work for you too, freeing you up to move to the next line. So as he is approaching 4, be connected and send like you did at 1:12… then just move away to 6 (staying connected) and see what he does 🙂
More about connection -he had a question at :57-:58 – when you were cuing the tunnel as he was over 6, you were pointing to it and looking at it… which turned your body to the tunnel exit (shoulders and feet) – so he was curling into you over 6 and did end up going to the tunnel when you stepped back out to it. You pointed forward less at 1:14, so he had a better line to the tunnel – a slight head check, but more connection to him and less pointing forward will totally help him not need to do that. He got the tunnel smoothly with you turning away early at 1:45 but might be a product of him learning the sequence 🙂 He is a smartie 🙂
Lovely work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyYes, the tie out idea might be a good thing if she can be chill while you jog around 🙂 or a crate with a sunscreen over it? And also yes, it is a bummer about not enough young dogs this weekend… I am surprised more people didn’t get covid puppies LOL!
Hi!
She looked really good here, I am happy she is back to training! And your mechanics are cleaner and so I see such nice teamwork here <3On the one step send video, I really liked your connection to her as she was in the tunnel, and the timing of the send looked good on the first couple!
When you add the wing before the tunnel... hustle over to the exit to be able to recreate that same timing that you had - you got a little but of a zig zag at the end because were not quite as early with the connection and sending.2nd video:
Good attention to mechanics here! There were plenty of lovely moments and her commitment is really looking fabulous! She had a couple of questions but we can sort it out easily:It was hard to see her tunnel exits because of the camera angle, but I do see a little zig zag line from her like we saw at the end of the first video. To smooth it out, I think you can connect more so she sees the connection sooner (while she is in the tunnel) - and you can start the send to the wing sooner too, just before she exits the tunnel. That will involve more hustle to get there sooner, but I think Chata will like that 🙂
When FCing the middle wing like at 1:35, you don't need to send to the first wing, you can keep moving so the send is for the 2nd wing - that will clarify it for her too and she won't come in and grab the toy.
You were smoother with that at 2:25 and it looked great!
She is a good girl to keep you honest about Go versus wrap cues 🙂
2:53 was a disconnect so she came in to grab the toy so good job just getting cookies to her to keep her from getting angry 🙂 You were clearer with the connection on the next rep.
Also.... watching her come in like that... do right and bite sound the same and potentially a source of her confusion there? I think that is the issue! They sound pretty much the same in word/tone/delivery and when connection is not perfect to help her know what you want, she comes in to the toy. No worries though... change the delivery-style of right from RIGHT to riiiight? and it won't be an issue. That way you will have BITE! and riiiiight? and they will sound wildly different.
One other little detail: When you are starting with a send to the wraps, like the left wraps like at 4:15, be more connected as you step in and set it up so she can see it better. When you are two hurried and not connected enough, she just follows you and doesn't go to the wing - the connection and one more step should do the trick, like you did at 4:20
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHello!
I feel the pain about the contacts… sigh. LOL!>.Love the class concept and forced myself to rewalk the sequence and look at my video when something went wrong!! Click for me lol!!! I do this at trials, I should do it at practice too 😊!>>
Perfect, I am glad you forced yourself to figure out what happened before trying things again – i tis very helpful to get closer to being able to nail it in the first run 🙂
>>Overall I was very pleased with her!
I agree, she looked great! And that start line… HOORAY!
>>This is her full height. Still not much experience at this height, so we had some bars. I believe most bars may have been with a question for her!>>
I think the bars were timing issues – early or late – where she was like “wait, what do you want?” 🙂 See below 🙂
Seq 1: On the first rep, you turned too soon at 2 and she was watching you and pulled the bar trying to sort the Go tunnel verbal with the turned body. You nailed it on the 2nd rep! And she was great about letting you layer too, that will come in very handy in the future 🙂
Seq 2: Super! Nice timing with all the things and even after the 2 big layering moments in sequence 1, she still was great on the right turn here. You held up a bit after cueing the tunnel exit – the next challenge would be to se if you can cu ethe tunnel exit and then keep moving up the next line, trusting that she will turn and exit facing the correct line.
Sequence 3: Great job driving her to the tunnel then switching all the info (during the WOO) to the turn on the tunnel exit – she nailed it.
At :08, as she was approaching 4, you were facing forward and said GO GO (or a really loud JUMP JUMP that sounded like GO ) so she went straight and then pulled the bar trying to adjust when she saw you turn.On the 2nd run, you were a little later on the turn info for the tunnel exit but great adjustment on the turn at 4: you were MUCH more team chill with better turn cues on 4-5 at :30, so she nailed it there. The ending was great!
The perfect run would be 1-3 from the first run, then 4-end from the second run 🙂Seq 4:
Opening loop:
1st run – she had a bar at 5 at :07 – a bit of rushing maybe? a bit of disconnect? Young dog stuff.. and she sorted it out nicely so it was not an issue later.
2nd run – a little disconnect after the #2 tunnel so she had a zig zag 3-4 but was great on the bar at 5!>>We did have a don’t wanna moment on the wrap on last sequence lol! Not a surprise since it’s quite rusty and well she always liked to give lots of feedback with those anyway😂 given the chance! No mom you must always run!! No slowing is allowed!>>
Actually…. it was a handling error, she was correct and not having a don’t wanna moment 🙂
At :11, you started the verbal and decel on time but you were not connected (which is why she was barking) and then you stopped moving/rotated too soon so she never committed) She was still behind you by about a step when you rotated
Similar thing happened at :40 – you started on time but you were not connected back to her (you were looking forward, which causes her to lose the line info) then stepping into the rotation too soon so she had big questions.
Compare it to :56 when you worked that piece from the tunnel – look at where you were looking there 🙂 You were much more connected, so while she wanted to bark, she stopped and looked at hte line. And you rotated later, when she was past you – great turn! And it was even better at 1:05 🙂
So for the wraps – the connection is very critical, and being sure she is past you and looking at the jump (and relatively close to the jump) is also critical 🙂
When you do get a chance to run it again, lock into the connection like you did here on the last 2 reps and I bet she is perfect 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Changtse is totally looking comfortable on the planks! Yay! We can’t go higher right now, but we can add other elements to keep things spicy 🙂She did well with the entries to the plank on the first video – the goal is to see if she can coordinate her balance and hind end to get on from different angles of approach: mission accomplished! We didn’t exactly give her specifically *where* to get on it so she sometimes got on from the side, but that is fine for now 🙂
Turning on the plank is going well too! Having to do it slooooowly is so much harder because she cannot rely on momentum! She did well even if it was really difficult (especially turning away from you!) So keep asking for the turning away. You can also ask for position changes – ask her to move from a stand to a sit on the board. Or a stand to a down, or down to sit, etc – that is pretty challenging and great for balance and body awareness! A lure is fine to help her get started with these.
For the straight running off the plank on the 3rd video – she looks confident here too so now you can move more too – walking and the build to jogging back and forth. I think for now, stick with food rewards. She loves the ball a WHOLE LOT 🙂 and and that is causing her to not be so thoughtful as she goes off the board to get it, and she splats herself into the ground a bit 🙂
Great job on these!! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! It is so fun to meet Whistle, he is really cool and did a great job here 🙂 You have such a fun dog family! And I loved the cheering from the crowd at the end of the video 🙂
>.Didn’t see Sequence 2 on my notes for some reason 🤪>>
HA! I thought it was me… I thought I kept missing it haha
Looking at the video:
>I see him with little questions on those tunnel exits and I definitely want to get rid of that.>>
I noticed the same thing – and also on the tunnel sends (where he looks at you over the bar before the tunnels) and here & there on the jumps. It did happen when you were late, yes… but it also happened when you were on time with both verbal and physical cues. So, some dogs are naturally line focused, some are more handler focused naturally… he is definitely a bit more handler focused.
I think we can use training & reinforcement strategies to get him to look ahead more and not ask the questions he was asking (which will also help commitment, which allows you to also cue sooner).
He was getting a thrown reward at the end of each sequnce here, whch is great – you can also throw rewards out on the lines and I would especially emphasize thrown rewards at the end of a tunnel almost every time so he turns on the rockets to accelerate to tunnels (rather than check with you :))
Sequence 1 went well! He looked at you at :05 over 2 on the go, and also on the 2nd sequence (aka sequence 3 :)) over 2 at :25 when you said tunnel sooner – so you can help him by driving to the tunnel more and definitely throw lots and lots of rewards to the exit of the tunnel each time so he doesn’t check in before going to the tunnel.
I think that delay in tunnel commitment causes a delay in your being able to cue the turn and leave, so getting more tunnel commitment will get your next cues to be easier too!On seq 3, no problem at all turning right on the tunnel exit, yay!
He jumped a little long on 4 at :28, you can be turning sooner there and driving forward less: as soon as he exits the tunnel, you can be starting the left verbal and beginning your shoudler turn. he was no thead checking there, he was a litle wide because you were moving forward too much and for too long.
He looked at you on the way to the last jump at :32, so you can leave a placed reward out ahead, or throw it sooner. He does not seem to head check when you are a few strides ahead of him like the end of the other sequences, I am mainly seeing it when you are only a little ahead or parallel to him.Seq 4 – he did well here too! He was some head checking on the jumps, so this is a good type of sequence to throw more rewards on the lines – early and often – to get him looking ahead even more 🙂
On the wrap turn: your left verbal at 9 (1:00) was very well-timed! You can decelerate sooner (start the decel no later than landing of 8, because it is decel and keep moving forward a bit) and trust his commitment, then rotate before he takes off
to cue the turn sooner and tighten it. He was in the air over 9 at 1:01 and you were facing forward, so he had a bit of a wider landing than what I think he can do. Ideally, as he is jumping, you would be turned already and heading to 10 🙂>>Should I do some ‘go on’ exercises and try these again ?>>
I think you can try these again but make the thrown rewards appear on the line early and often – especially for tunnels 🙂 That can happen on the straight lines as well as on the turns, so he basically learns to look forward all the time 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! This is the perfect place to post the videos 🙂 You are off to a great start here!
We can really look at the details here – fun!!
On the 1-2 line, I have a bit of obsessing for you to consider, to get faster & smoother lines 🙂
On the first rep at :29, she jumps straight over 1 to 2, no questions, no added strides.
On the 2nd and 3rd reps, at :56 and 1:26 – note how she jumps 1 towards you then has to zip back out to get 2.Ideally, we want that straight line 1-2 on all 3 reps. She curled into you on reps 2 and 3 for 2 reasons:
– your position when you released was much more lateral, especially on rep 3
-you released with a ‘hup’ before switching to go.Now, on the first rep, you released with a hup but your position also cued the straight line so she had no questions. But when you moved over, the hup + position cued a turn. So to get rid of the extra turn, you can either release with a Go Go Go cue, or *not* be lateral on the release… or both 🙂 The line 1-2 is the same on all 3 reps, so your lead out position can be the same too.
I think it will be good to help smooth our her questions, because you’ll see your course times get even faster and she will get on her lines sooner. Yay!
Looking at the tunnel exits:
Seq 1 – looked great! So fast! She definitely likes her go lines!
Super!!!Seq 2, both reps :
>> I really need to pay attention to my rights and lefts. I was telling her “rriigghhtt” when I wanted a “leefftt.” >>
Oops, that is something we have all done. The timing and delivery of the right verbal made the cue very different sounding & looking from the first rep of GO, so she read it to mean turn – which supports the point that it is not just about the word, but also about the delivery! So yes, use the left, but also keep going with making it sound different because that was really helpful.
You were lateral and not moving a whole lot here, with a position on landing side of 4 depending on which turn you wanted. So no I think we can add more motion to the whole thing, so you are moving into it more like you would be on a full course. You can tweak your setup a little to do this: move the white jump that was the original #4 to be closer to the edge of the field (keep it really low so she only has to hop over it a little, if there is not a lot of landing room. Then, the green jump can move over a tiny bit while also staying on the left turn line – that might give you more room to add the pinwheel jump as well.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! She is looking really terrific!
Seq 1 looked good! Did she tick or drop bar 4? You can throw sooner or have the reward placed there if throwing while she is jumping causes a question.
Seq 2 – The reason I left Hot Sauce’s off courses in the demo video was that I figured many of you would get the same off course here 🙂
>> But I’m sure I screwed up the handling and didn’t help her out. >>
I think it is more of a dog training thing than a handling thing here, same with my Hot Sauce 🙂 She is a very forward dog, which is great, but we need to train the tunnel exits so we don’t need to light fireworks or put up blockades to get the turns LOL!
She was *definitely* more pumped up on the start line here! I think the verbal right was in the WOO of the tunnel exit, but the physical cue was not – she did not see you turn and leave before she went in at :27. The timing of the physical and verbal cues at :49 were much more ideal! But… she didn’t read them 🙂 You added a bit of rotation at 1:11… nope, still off course (I feel your pain LOL! ) At 1:26, you backed up and called her and she did turn! Yay! But I want her to process the cues the way you delivered them at :49, that was spot on!
So, we can train more tunnel exit stuff: first, take out the off course jump, that visual might be too stimulating. You can run the GO sequence and throw the reward, then run the right turn sequence and have her come to you for the reward. When she can do that without the off course jump there, you can add back a wing as a distraction – and work the turns again. You can also place the toy on the right turn line to help reward the correct exits.
When she did get the turn at 1:28, you were (understandably) a little hesitant driving up the line 4-5 because you probably wanted to make sure she was actually turning 🙂
Her name as a cue instead of just the ‘right’ verbal has some power, and also slowing down your motion so she could really process it helped a lot on the opening of seq 3 at 1:57! The rest looked great 🙂 You can add in sending to 5 and leaving even sooner to get way ahead on the lines.
You don’t need to be as close o the line 3-4 when you moved towards 3 at 2:14, which made you late calling her and turning her from 4 to 5 – the shoulder turn started when she was lifting off for 4 so she slipped trying to turn to 5
EXCELLENT adjustment to the timing on your 2nd run here: you led out more so you were more lateral for 3 and 4, which set off a good a chain of events: being lateral and trusting her commitment to 3 got you past the jump in the middle, so you could start the turn cues sooner: as she was jumping 3, you were already turning 🙂 That better timing (definitely in the WOO!) plus your lateral position set up a rally great turn 4-5 at 2:41! It was also super nice at 3:03 – you were not as lateral on the 3-4 line but your timing was great and she nailed it. Adding a left verbal would be the next thing to consider, for when you are behind her 🙂
On the first run, the wrap cues for 9 can start earlier, her WOO starts at liftoff to 8! So she can be seeing you already decelerating and using the wrap verbal as she is lifting for 8, so she can make the adjustment to collection. At 2;21, it started when she landed which means she couldn’t process it til the next stride, so she was wide on the wrap
I am happy with the adjustment you made on the wrap on your 2nd run too – your verbal started at the opening of the WOO (liftoff of 8). that really helped and she definitely collected better!! I think you can start your decel at the same time as the verbal (not the rotation, just the decel) – you were still driving up to the wing of the wrap jump and that made the decel cues late, which contributed to her hitting the wing.
She got the wrap behavior nicely one the last rep, but your cues were a bit later there – the timing you had in the 2nd run will be much better for her to get it the first time out. You might be running to the wrap wing more than needed, meaning you can start your decel as she is lifting for 8 and trust her commitment to the line and the turn 🙂
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Wheeeee jumping in at 6 will definitely fine tune what she needs to see/hear in her WOO! Does she have the Nemo ball now?On the landing of 1 at :20, she was waiting for more info (she had time to take a stride towards you. There has been a lot of discussion in the agility world about releases (American style versus European style): do we release with the traditional “break” (American), or do we release with info like “jump” or “go” (Euro style)? I think it depends on the dog AND the context. In this scenario, with minimal lead out and a fast dog… you can release with GO GO GO rather than “break” then the Go cues. As soon as you gave her the go, she went… but the break cue in the WOO of 1 caused her to turn on 1, adding strides and time and risking enraging her hahaha
The other option is to keep moving on the lead out and release while you are moving – stopping helps cue the turn towards you, so you can be walking the whole time and release while you are moving (or moving faster than walking, depending on how well she will maintain her stay). She didn’t do it on the 2nd or 3rd sequences, but the 1st run gives us the most ‘honest’ assessment before the dogs learn the line 🙂
The rest looked great!>>Sequence 2 – Ran around the 2nd jump which is not like her but I think I just lost connection for a bit and now that she’s used to more of it, she doesn’t like less.>>
Yes, I had to watch that a few times… very interesting and really not like her!! I think in the moment as you closed your shoulders forward she read backside pressure? But then didn’t do the backside because you were saying tunnel. She almost didn’t take the tunnel but then she got in AND produced a fabulous turn! Nice job with the timing of the turn cues there.
Good for you for watching the video before trying it again 0 the 3rd sequence looked lovely 1-2-3 AND you nailed the turn cues again. Huzzah! Your praising caused her to be wide 4-5 as you mentioned, so ideally you would be turning sooner and using directionals there. The ending looked great!
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>>But – I can fit the sequence in my yard!!!
This is great! The 10 foot tunnel is great to use here.
>>Jumping Kaladin at 12in so that he gets a break from 16.
Smart!
>>I trimmed out some extra frizzer play, but the whole video was 3.3 min even with that and all reps that we did are included.
Wow you got this all done in 3.3 minutes even with friz play? Very nice 🙂 He looked great and his tug drive looks FABULOUS.
Mr. Kaladin looked great – he definitely anticipated the release because it looked like you were about to on the first moment, but then lovely commitment to his lines on the run.
>>Sequence 1 – In my mind I was moving to the right with my lower body earlier before the tunnel, but apparently not – however he knew where he was going>>
I agree – he seemed to have no questions. I think your acceleration and verbals made the lower body line less important and he did GREAT!
Seq 2:
>.Sequence 2 – Was so excited about his tight right turn out of the tunnel that I forgot my “go” for the last 2 jumps.
Yes! Totally agree that it was a great turn. You were caught in the moment LOL!!!! Well done on the timing of the right verbal, and I think he saw some decel too as you were preparing to turn. You can try to turn sooner and let him see you leave sooner, to challenge his commitment to the tunnel too!
Seq 3 – I think you decelerated too soon on the 1-2-3 line, so he started adding strides at 2. Then you ended up at 4 very early and had to wait. So this s good to know: you can move forward longer to keep him in extension, and still have a ton of time to get to the turn at 4
>>Turned my entire body off the 2nd tunnel too soon so he obligingly came with me.>>
I have a mixed opinion about this one: Yes, at 1:25 your lower body turned away, but I think the error was more due to breaking connection and looking forward You can see you were yelling the go tunnel cues to the tunnel rather than to him, so all he could see was your back at 1:25 🙂 At 1:57, you moved more to the tunnel and had a little more connection, and he totally nailed it.
BUT… I love the lower body “bye bye I am outta here” that you were going for at 1:25! What if you gave him more of a clear connection (left arm back, eye contact, verbal directly to him) while he was approaching and jump ing 6… and still try to peel away with the lower body? That can be a true “upper body is the present, lower body is the future” moment that I think he is ready for! That will allow you to commit him on a big line while still getting to positions much further up the course. Definitely try that when you revisit this, you can use it as a warm up for Seq 4 🙂Great job! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
