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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
I am glad you dragged out the tunnel, this looked great!!!! So much good stuff!!!
I totally see what you are saying about get in and get it being similar. It is hard to change your obstacle names, but it will be worth it! You had it mostly correct.
And since you have all these good markers – try to use your ‘toy in hand’ marker (I think it is ‘strike’ for her?) rather than praise at the end of the sequence. Speaking from experience – we don’t want to associate any praise or yes or yay with the come get the reward because then when we praise… then might think it is a LSM and come to get the reward. Ask me how I know this LOL!!! OOPS!!! I love that you are running and making the reward really active (she seems to love it too) so you can be running saying “strike!” Then after she grabs it, you can switch to the praise. That will maintain the clarity of when the toy is available and avoid the question of what praise means (generally means “nice job keep going”)
And one more thing about verbals: WELL DONE getting the directionals out! She was moving really fast and you got all of the directionals in the right place at the right time. SUPER!
One thing you can ad more of is more eye contact and connection. Those were her only questions – especially exiting the tunnel when she was on your left. If you were looking forward a bit, and she didn’t really see connection, she was turning into you a bit before going back out (like at :04 and 1:21). When you had more connection like at :17 and :31, she went straight to the wing. When there was a lot of connection, she was tight on the wing wraps (and on the soft turns) but if you were looking forward, she drifted wide waiting for more info (like at :18 and :21).
So for now, over-exaggerate the connection and look back at her a lot, keeping the dog-side arm back so she can see all of your upper body. You won’t always have to emphasize it that much, but for now it will be useful to teach her how to sequence.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
This is all looking good. I am going to take a guess that Dellin thought running in the bigger space was THE MOST FUN THING EVER hahaha! She is already fast and going to get faster – and she is doing a good job with her form too!
On the set point – I think her only real question was she was hitting the first bar (pulled it on the first rep, ticked it on a couple of others with front feet I believe) – which probably means she was just a little too close. Looking at the videos, I think the distance you had her from the first jump at :18 and :22 is the sweet spot for her front feet.
Her form in the gap looked good – you can try 5.5 feet. And… raise the bar 🙂 10 inches for the next rep should be good! Is she seeing any height in her in-person classes?Wind in her hair – yep, I’d say she rather enjoyed this one too LOL! I am excited about how well she transfers concepts from the small space at home to the big fast running – no problem! And she was looking ahead the whole time, so great job getting the toys thrown.
You were correct to add motion, keep adding it to work up to a run. Be sure you switch to a GO verbal though – I didn’t hear a go verbal and it sounds like you were still saying the wrap verbal as she was heading to the jump 🙂
Next time you are in the big space when she is happy with you running through this, add 2 challenges:
– start very close to the wing and stay there til she exits, then accelerate so she drives ahead of you (yo can place a toy out ahead on this one, if it is hard to get it thrown early enough because you are behind her).
– start closer to the jump and send her away to the wing, so you are passing or past the jump as she exits the wing. That challenges her to choose between chasing you or finding the jump when you are way ahead.This is another place you can add a little bit of height on the bar, depending on how much height she has already been exposed to.
The smiley face game went well too 🙂 You need more tunnel bags 🙂 Things happen very quickly with her on this one, so remember to use both of the wrap cues – you generally had a clear wrap cue on the first wrap but not on the one after the tunnel (or it was super quiet). She did well on the soft left and right racetracks! It seemed like you were not sure how she would do on the left turn race track so you helped her a lot, and she went wide because she understood the line. So you helped less with handling on the right turn race tracks and she was great! Yay!
And nice job with connections throughout!!!!
So for the next smiley face, you can spread things out a little more – more distance, more speed, less time for you to think 🙂>> At the end, I tried the wrap discriminations and she was getting tired and I could not get her to stay out of the tunnel, even when I moved the wing farther away and tried more motion away from the tunnel, but she had done a lot of work by that point and our rental time was up>>
It is the most ‘intellectual’ game so it is possible she was mentally tired – plus she had just had all of that fun running fast through the tunnel. Next time, start with it and see how she does, even if you start with the wing wrap where she turns away from the tunnel. You can also help with some handling like a FC to show her that the wing can be wrapped and the tunnel can be resisted 🙂
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
What is that green-ish stuff under your feet? Grass? The snow is gone? YAY!!!!It was super fun to see him get to open up outside. He is a fast little guy!!!!!
I agree that a toy or a lotus ball would have helped get him looking less at you, but overall it was a really good session. Click/treat to you for getting the verbals in!! They were all in place AND they sounded pretty difference. Awesome!
Little details about the session – overall his commitment looked really good. You can add more motion – by walking, I Think he was asking if he needed to decel or if he was allowed to explode away. So you can ramp up your motion to support those lines.
More motion will make connection harder, but your connection overall was really strong. There were a couple of little connection “blips” like at :25, where you didn’t quite get connection on your left side, so he didn’t know which side to be on – you said tunnel, so he drove to the one he was looking at. Good boy!
In those moments, you can just reward him (because 99% of the time, we will see that the dogs ar encore to :)) rather than reset or fix anything. When you reset or fixed, he got REAL MAD and BIG FEELINGS lol!!!! So, reward what he offered, then reset, then try again. And you can totally use reset cookies for the reset moments, between reps or if there is a little blooper. My only suggestion with cookies is to give him a moment to swallow, there were a couple of times when he hacked up the cookie a bit while running LOL!
The left and right turn racetracks were harder for him! He was always correct on the first wing but had questions on the 2md one – so that is a place to ramp up the motion and connection, and even step in a little to help him see the line then throw the reward out past the wing. As soon as he realizes that those lines are correct, he will be flying to them the same way he flies to the wraps and tunnel.
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning and welcome back, hope you had a good vacation!!
The dragging toy meltdown sounds odd… since she did well with everything else, maybe just try again in a day or two and see how it goes.
The wing wraps are looking good!! Her commitment looks strong here. You can repeat the verbal more than once – on course, you probably be repeating 3 or 4 or 5 times, so you can totally start that here. And my only other suggestion is to line her up and hold her collar so you have a clean start for each rep – on some of the reps she was facing you or still eating, so she didn’t quite process the verbal as well. Rewarding from your hand on this one will be smoother than tossing treats.
Set point is also looking good! Lots of good stay rewards! Her organization on the bumps looked good, 5 feet seems like the right distance. I couldn’t see the reward, was it a good target? You can add in a stationary toy target next and see how she does. We will go to the moving target (dragging toy) as soon as shebis happy with that on the flat.
Great job here! Let me know what you think 🙂
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KeymasterSo something about the transition from toy to game is frustrating her or stimulating her in a way where she gets mouthy. Don’t stop the game, that can make the mouthing happen more. You can reward the toy ‘out’ by dropping a treat by your foot with a get it marker. Or, you can reward the out by giving her the toy right back 🙂 it will all happen very quickly, so have your plan and your treat ready so she really doesn’t even have time to be mouthy. 🙂
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Welcome!! I’m excited for more Roulez fun!
Google didn’t let me open your history – clearly google hates me this week LOL!
Take a look at the games, let me know how they go and we will start using them at trials!
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KeymasterGood morning and welcome! Thanks for the history, it is really helpful. I’m glad you’re doing the find my face games! And from the video, I think that carrying her in does seem to help (and trying to move her by her collar does not help).
Take a look at the games and let me know how they go – we will be plugging them into different pieces of the puzzle in training and trialing to help build up the skills.
Keep me posted!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
Thank you for the history, it is really extensive and helpful!! There are definitely a lot of things here that will help him. Take a look at the games posted yesterday and let me know how we does – then we will begin plugging the games into different places so that you can use them to help out at trials. Is he in a weekly class? We can add them there first and see how he does. When is your next trial?
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KeymasterHello and welcome!!! Great seeing you in the Chat tonight!
I love the history, it is very complete. I’m excited – we will be plugging in this week’s games and I think you’ll see a difference pretty quickly. Let me know how the games go as you get started – then we will go through the history and we can talk about where they fit 🙂
Fun times ahead!!!!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHello and welcome!!! Great seeing you in the Chat tonight!
I love the history, it is very complete. I’m excited – we will be plugging in this week’s games and I think you’ll see a difference pretty quickly. Let me know how the games go as you get started – then we will go through the history and we can talk about where they fit 🙂
Fun times ahead!!!!
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KeymasterHello and welcome! It was great chatting with you tonight!!!
I agree, Fever is just about ring ready and this class will help smooth that transition into trial life!! I’m excited!!!!
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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHoly WOW that was a great run! Great lead out, lovely connection, and I heard lots of verbals!!!!! So fun!!!!! The future is very exciting <3 ❤️
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHello and welcome!!!
Thank you for the great history – perfect!>>due to space issues
Space issues as in there are simply a lot of dogs in a small space, or space issues as in she might get uncomfortable or reactive to dogs nearby?
All of the other info is very helpful!!! Take a look at the games – I think you will find them easy to play in tiny chunks, in stolen moments during your busy days. I will re-read the history over morning coffee and we can start to plug in which game will be the foundation for which skill 🙂
And NFC is GREAT for when the courses are un-runnable LOL!!!!! And Teresa will be our ultimate distraction 🙂
I am excited to get started!
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Keymasterhi Stephanie and welcome! I am excited to meet you and Mighty!!! You are brilliant, starting this with him so young – he is still basically a blank slate. I loved reading your history – a whole lot of great stuff already and tons of stuff to build on. You mentioned having holes in reinforcement procedures… they aren’t holes, he is a baby dog! They are places to keep building 🙂 He is like one of my dogs at that age: the sound of someone else saying ‘tunnel tunnel tunnel’ was a real head exploder and the cheese was almost punishing hahaha!
You are totally welcome to upgrade to a working spot! I have lots of ideas for you, either way 🙂 Let me know! As you get started with the games, I will come back to the history and help you plug in which game will be most effective for which of his questions (for example, the pattern game will TOTALLY help with the tunnel-tunnel-tunnel excitement, but we will do it with toys for him and not cheese LOL!!)
Let me know what you think! I am looking forward to learning more about Mighty!
TracyMarch 14, 2022 at 8:40 pm in reply to: Cindi and Ripley (Border Collie 12 months when class starts) #33067Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
I think this is looking really good – the right balance of calm dragging toy and excitement when he nails the set point. I REALLY like how he is maintaining his organization even with the toy dragging and you running 🙂
(Your running looks fine! Things always feel awkward with each new dog 🙂 )
I think the 6 foot distance is probably the best for this – he was a bit stretched on the 7 foot, reaching forward rather than powering off his rear. So try 6 foot distance but with a 12” bar 🙂
For the “tails” game, you can work it at first as a retrieve game – you cue the tails toy, he gets it and brings it to you – and wins the dragging toy as a prize 🙂 That can raise the value of the dead tails toy pretty quickly, especially when you are on a big lead out 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
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