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  • in reply to: Christine and Aussie Josie #40296
    Tracy Sklenar
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    Hi!
    Sorry to hear that it has been a bad allergy summer! Fall is coming!

    >>Her default in so many places is to wrap rather than slice for a RC. I’m sure I’m not always in the greatest position, but I also feel like it’s just what she does??>>

    Well…. she reads you correctly πŸ™‚ Rear crosses are definitely trained skills that need to be cued, like threadles are too. And if you don’t cue them, she defaults to turning to you which is a good thing! More on that below.

    Course 1: Nice serp 1-2!
    At 2-3 – cue a turn for 3 to make the threadle easier (:06). I use my wrap cue for these types of threadles: when she exits the tunnel, as her to wrap 3. Then as she collects for 3, do your threadle cue for 4.

    The RC on 5 at :10 was a spot where I think you wanted a right turn and she turned left, towards you. You need to set the RC line with more emphasis and sooner. She didn’t see you starting the RC til she was more than halfway to 5, at which point, her decision as been made. Ideally you are cuing the RC as she leaves the 4 wrap wing, right behind her πŸ™‚ You can also use your arms almost like a tandem turn to get her attention there sooner for the RC (see Live class 4 for more ideas on that).

    6-7-8-9 looked great !

    10-11-12:
    I think the plan was to push then RC on 13 at :28 and :55, which is really hard. To get the RC, you would need to get more to the takeoff side of 13 and show the RC cues, stepping across to the center of the bar. You didn’t do that step or two to the center of the bar, so she wrapped rather than sliced. The other option there is to keep her on your left after 12 and threadle/slice 13 – it is one move, versus the 3 moves of the side change after 12, then the push, then the RC.

    15-16 weaves – the RC before takeoff of 15 was more effective, and then drive harder to the entry. You can keep her on your left use your switch away cue, which is a tandem turn/RC on the flat cue – it would start before takeoff to 15 so she doesn’t think you want her to drive straight to the jump.

    Good weaving!!!!! And great job getting 17-18-19!

    Based on how 18-19-20 is set, 20 is a “get out” or a side change 18-19, to set up the line to the last tunnel.

    Course 2:
    The opening is harder tan it looks! When trying to get her off the tunnel when working the 1-2 FC wrap, (1:48-2:00 ish) show a lot more connection on the exit of the FC: right arm way back, tons of eye contact needed. Your shoulders were closed forward so she only saw motion, so the tunnel made sense to her. She got it when you stopped moving or dropped the toy, but ideally you show stronger connection so she can get it while you are running.

    To get the RC on 3: decel at 2 and set the line, so you can drive to the center of the bar of 3. At 2:23 you didn’t decel or face the center of the bar so she read it as a backside.
    2:40 was better for sure, in terms of you feet moving to the center of the bar and you putting pressure on the RC line.

    You also had plenty of time to get the blind there too πŸ™‚ Send to 1 from further away, do a big connection on the FC and and run like mad to the BC 2-3 – extra running but makes for a better line!

    5-14 looked really good! (you can layer the tunnel on the 9-10 line and meet her at 11).

    The slice at 15 went well, but there is a lot of turning from the 14 tunnel to get to the slice ine at 15. It might be fun to try 15 as a wrap on the other wing and see if it is faster.

    At 3:09 you sent to a post turn on 17 – the post turn made the tunnel an option for a moment – she dropped the bar then missed hte next jump. At 3:42, she didn’t drop the bar but definitely looked at the tunnel – so a spin might be better there for now, and also keep working on the wrap versus tunnel discriminations to help strengthen the verbal.

    On the last rep, it looked like she turned to her left on the exit of the 19 tunnel – which is correct based on your physical cues. You were in that “tunnel magic” position 3 feet past the tunnel entry, which cues the left turn at 3:45. Compare it to 3:31, where you had a stronger rear cross pressure line and it looked like she turned correctly to her right.

    The ending line looked good the first time, just remember to accelerate: you were saying tunnel but at 3;21 turned and decelerated, so she looked at you: Do you really mean tunnel, mom? You did the layer at the end, and there was a lot more motion so she didn’t ask any big questions πŸ™‚

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (Camp 2022) #40295
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >.I think he’s getting coaching from Min on his contacts.

    We would all much rather than she coached him in person, but there is some comfort to know that she is still with you and Kal, somehow.

    >>I hadn’t planned on it, but I do think I want to run him at the Open this Fall. Adding in the fact that he has to think more at 16, I think I’ll definitely enter him at 12s even though he has a Masters bye at 16. Knowing that the jumping will be easy for him will make me feel more confident about taking him to such a large event when he’s barely 3.

    I think you will like the 12s class – and I agree, he won’t have to think as much. There is SO MUCH for these dogs to think about, keeping the heights lower makes it all easier.

    >> While I am a huge advocate for believing in your dog, I think the deck is stacked against him for international aspirations since he’s up against 17in BCs.

    International aspirations are a good thing, but something that you don’t need to decide now. And the EO team has a better cutoff than the WAO team does for the shelties. But at 2.5, you had so much time to figure it out!

    >> (Plus he’s not going to fit under the seat on a plane).

    Flying with dogs is radically different nowadays, and not in a good way πŸ™ I have no current international aspirations mainly because of the travel issues.

    I am looking forward to seeing you at the Open!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Susan and Grady #40290
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Lots of good work on this jumpers course, it is a doozy! Your connection was strong and great job with all the verbals. He was being SUPER about being responsive, following the lines you set, and not grabbing any off courses (ok, except that dog walk haha). Here are some ideas for you:

    Sections:

    On the opening 1-2 line, you can lead out and handle it as a serp (dog on right, facinghim but feet pointing to 2). that will help you get that line without having to time a FC or the BC. Some were on time, some were late – and a serp is much easier because you can just stand there πŸ™‚

    The foot rotation on the threadle that you did on the first run works really well for this type of threadle, just be sure to practice it so that you are not late with it. Doing the htreadle with a decel on the 2nd run (which is what you had walked) worked really well! What will help you have the plan more fully in your muscle memory is doing that section faster in the walk through – that way you will be able to nail it the first time without any added rotation.

    The FC 4-5 after the threadle works but it is a little late to get to after the 3-4 threadle. As you move into the FC here, watch his head: as soon as he turns his head to the 4 jump you can start the FC even if you are not yet in perfect position. The other option there is to decel at the exit of 4 and set up a RC for 5, which will put you way ahead again πŸ™‚
    The 6-7-8 section looked great!

    Part 2:
    You did a post turn on the 10-11-12 section, which shows the line back to the tunnel for a heartbeat and also turns you the wrong direction to get to 13, putting you behind a bit – at :48 when you ran it he was looking straight when he landed from 11 then hesitated and had to adjust to make the turn. You can send to 11 and do a spin so your feet are facing 13 before he even takes off for 11, and you can leave sooner (looking over your left for the 12 jump).

    The threadle wrap at 13 is looking strong, he is seeming to really understand it now! The only hard part with the threadle wrap is that you have to stay there to get it and stay there to step him to 14. What might be easier for you both as a threadle slice to the outside, because it would land him looking at 14 instead of you having to work the line.

    Fabulous weave entry! Wow!!!

    Part 3:
    Setting up the ending line is tricky πŸ™‚
    On the backside it was hard to see the handling on the walk through because you were not looking for your invisible dog, which might be why he didn’t see it on the first run. And, to get there even sooner: you can layer the 15 jump while he is weaving and you are heading to the 17 tunnel, and you can do a BC while he is weaving rather than waiting for him to exit than do a FC. Doing the BC while he is weaving will help you be further up the line for 2 reasons:
    1 – to give the cue for the 17 tunnel the even before he exits the weaves, without having to rotate
    2 – to get further ahead for the 18 backside πŸ™‚

    On the video, the layering of the 15 jump after sending to the weaves was very effective! That got you far enough ahead that is seemed easy to get the blind after 17 and the push to 18. Interesting that he ended up on the dog walk! It was hard to see if you were blocking the wing at :51 or not (I think your position was good) but that is a great discrimination to work on! He has a TON of value of the dog walk.

    Full run (Vimeo, because the youtube video is marked private):

    At the beginning, You were much earlier on the BC 1-2 bu for a heartbeat he was not sure if he should take 1. Leading out as a serp will be even easier πŸ™‚

    You did a BC 4-5 , which seemed easier than the FC but was a little late – so watching his head will help get it more timely and also I think setting 4-5-6 as a rear cross will be the easiest and fastest line too.

    6-7-8-9 looked great again!

    He ha da little trouble seeing the 11 commitment here, as you closed your shoulder forward through the post turn. Keeping your left arm back as you commit him will help, and try the spin there if you get a chance to play with it again.

    The threadle wrap went well as did the weave entry – at the very end, you did the threadle slice on 13 and it set a great line 14-15 with very little effort from you!
    He had trouble with the DW discrim so definitely good to break down and use more verbals
    good job staying connected there at 1:26 to help him come over the 18 jump. By the last rep, he had sorted out that it was NOT the dog walk LOL!

    >> I accidentally sent Grady to the weaves after 14πŸ€¦πŸΌβ€β™€οΈ

    Yes, that was so funny: at 2:06 you were facing pole 12 and said weave, so he did…. good rewarding there! He was listening and not on auto-pilot!

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Mary and Tali (NSDTR) #40289
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Yes, there is SO MUCH foundation work to do with the pups – it takes time, which is fine! No rush πŸ™‚

    >>I hope you do some more seminars like we did in this session.

    Yes, I am planning that for the winter and spring – lots of short courses and online seminars πŸ™‚

    Have fun!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Lori And Beka (BC, 11Months) #40288
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>Yes, the eleavtor game has her quite concerned. The bang game isn’t as bad but it’s still a bit of a concern on her part, she seems to prefer me in the front right now.

    If she doesn’t like the elevator game: skip it. She is squarely in the throes of adolescence right now and we don’t need to challenge her in ways that her brain might not have the bandwidth to handle. You can revisit it when she is closer to 18 months or 24 months. And is she is kinda sorta fine with the bang game but still concerned, dial it back to where she is not concerned at all and use only reinforcement that is magical, doing super short sessions.

    >>Anything coming up that would be applicable to Beka for a small space situation (my basement)?

    As we get into winter, we will have a series of short courses for handling stuff followed by skills stuff that can be indoors. I am sorting out dates right now, stay tuned!

    >>For next year what would be the next logical course for Beka? She’ll be nearly two.

    We have a Transitions To Trials webinar coming up in October (will be posted next week). And some distance classes. After the winter, we will have a Course Trends handling class. The MaxPup grads move up to the CAMP-level courses, with CAMP being next summer.

    Have fun! I will keep you posted on what we plan in the coming months.
    Tracy

    in reply to: Helen & Changtse (8 mo old Brittany) #40287
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Yes, she totally like the ball getting involved with this πŸ™‚ Yay!

    She is doing well with the left and right cues, as long as you give them early enough πŸ™‚ At :21 , for example, you had great timing of the left verbal and physical cue, both cues were very obvious while she was still a solid 3 feet before the tunnel entry, and her exit at :22 was spot on!
    Compare it to :38 where the verbal was good in terms of starting early, but you didn’t really turn to the new line til after her head went into the tunnel so she went pretty straight. Part of that might have been because the ball was present and ball often means go straight when you are moving straight. So be sure to match your change of direction to the timing of the verbal, so she can see & hear the cues while she is still a full stride before entry to the tunnel.

    Starting right at the tunnel for the soft turns gets the turns, but I think it is too easy for you both LOL! You are stationary and on an angle, so you don’t need to time the cues and she doesn’t need to work the exit with speed πŸ™‚ So definitely try to start far enough back that you have to deliver the early cues – I often put out a cone or line on the ground to remind where where the dog needs to be seeing & hearing the turn cues and the Go cues.

    Your Go verbals were timely too, and the ball throws really helped – so be sure to match the good timing of the verbal with the explosive forward motion she would see on course – you were decelerating to throw, so try to run forward and throw.

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Helen & Changtse (8 mo old Brittany) #40286
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    I think she did pretty well with the rolling thing here! She seemed engaged and happy to keep going with it. Be careful about how she dismounts: when she is chasing the cookie, the roller board moves unpredictably and she sometimes splays her front or rear a bit getting off it. We don’t want to have any weird physical sensations attached, so you can change how you reinforce her: try delivering it to her while she is on it, then use your feet to stop the rolling, then toss a cookie to get her off it.

    I also like to use toys more than food with these things, because the toys will generally increase arousal – which reduces concerns about movement. So you can add in throwing the ball between each rep, just being sure that she can dismount safely from whatever she is working on.

    As for next steps? The introductions to noise and movement should be super gradual, almost not noticed by the pups, until they are post-adolescence. During adolescence, they might suddenly get concerned by something that was perfectly fine 5 minutes ago and that is pretty much how the adolescent canine brain works LOL! So I take all of this supe slowly til the dogs are about 18 months old or so, then I finish up the teeter – it is amazingly easy when they are not adolescents anymore LOL!!! I know that most agility programs want everything trained so the dogs can start trialing at 15 or 18 months old, but the science of canine brain development tells us otherwise. So, keep going with these little fun shaping games, use lots of play, and give her more time – then it will be very easy to put it all together πŸ™‚
    Tracy

    in reply to: Kathy and Buccleigh and Keltie (Shelties) #40285
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    Great job here:
    Really great connection on the walk throughs! It was easy to ‘see’ where he was. For example looking at the 5-6-7 line: at :09, I could see that the threadle cues were on time as he was arriving at 5, as compared to :32 where you started the BC as he was taking off for 5, which would be late. To do the threadle, you can run around the back of the tunnel like you did. The BC would work a lot better if you sent him to the 3-4 line and layer it, so you are way ahead for the BC. And by keeping your arm locked back and not very high, he could see the connection clearly.

    Both runs went really well: you were connected and running great lines, as you had rehearsed. Super!!!!!
    The run with the threadle worked really well! I can definitely see the work you have put it training the skill – it looked smooth and in this case, I liked it better than the BC πŸ™‚ And the BC was a little late as you mentioned, but he went wide there (looking at the rewards) and that got you some extra time to get it done.

    >. Buccleigh was hesitant to go from 6-7 on both runs and I am not quite sure why. On the second run he definitely looks towards the reward. In general, I am wondering if he is a little hesitant because I am asking for the start line stay. I don’t think he is confident with it yet and I think he might be a bit worried about making a mistake.>>

    I definitely saw it there, especially after the BC, and also at 1-2-3 and also 8-9-10. It might have been the stay, but I think it was getting further from where the reward was planted. Note how as he moved towards where the reward was planted, he go faster πŸ™‚ So you can carry rewards with you, and mix those in when he is moving away from where the reward was planted. And if you are asking for a newer skill like a stay, don’t also ask for him to ignore a reward that is placed outside the ring: the brain won’t have enough bandwidth for both πŸ™‚ So if you are working stays and handling? Carry the reward. Eventually when the stays are super confident, you can add in not carrying the reward.

    Running without the reward in your hand or pocket is a skill, similar to training weave poles. The dogs need to know these skills to be able to compete successfully, but you don’t need to use the skill all the time and also, you don’t need to work that skill when you are also working something else that is challenging.

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Promise and Amy #40284
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    These are hard for sure – high speed for the dogs and tons of technical handling for the humans πŸ™‚

    Something super important to remember is to reward her immediately when something happens out there:
    – if all things go well? Reward in the moment or keep going. That is the easy part πŸ™‚
    – if something goes wrong? Either reward in the moment, or keep going as if it didn’t happen πŸ™‚ that is much harder for us humans who like it to be correct, but it is much better for the dogs if we either just keep going to reward as if it was correct (because, from the perspective of the dog’s response, it was correct LOL!)

    For example: at 1-2-3 at the beginning of the video (you cued a tunnel instead of the #2 jump and she was correct… but didn’t get rewarded. It was handler error, so a definite reward moment. If something goes wrong and you can fix it in the moment, keep going as if all was correct. If something goes wrong and you are not sure why, assume it was handler error πŸ™‚ and then reward immediately.

    >>Stay was not good today. Going to have to get serious(on my part) and take time to reward that stay! She is pushing it again. Not wanting to down, ugh.

    The stay questions from her might be an indication that the rate of reinforcement/rate of success on course is too low, and that changes her arousal state so she cannot do the down or stay, because of the higher state of arousal/potential frustration. Increasing the rate of reinforcement should bring her stay right back πŸ™‚ because it centers her arousal into an optimal state and reduces frustration levels.

    The 2nd rep of seq 1 was better per the numbered sequence πŸ™‚ You can step forward to the tunnel after the wing wrap at :18 – you stepped sideways which widens the turn. Stay super close to the wing and take a step or two directly to the tunnel and it will be perfect (and you will still have plenty of time t get to your position for the next section)

    On the BC at 6-7: The timing of starting it at :23 was really good! But finishing it was late (she didn’t see the new connection til :24) and with a youngster the finishing of it is the critical element. It is definitely a “wings in” moment, where you bring your arms in tight to your side so you can make a very quick connection shift. This is especially important with small dogs – you might even need to dip your shoulder down a bit to open up the connection sooner. And, talk to her while you are doing it: either a name call, or repeat the jump verbal with urgency, or both πŸ™‚
    The layering looked awesome!

    Seq 3: She didn’t get the layering in the beginning, partially because of the verbals, partially because of the physical cue. (also, 2 should be the other side of the jump, which would make it easier to find the layered line) At :33, your arm was very high which turns your shoulders and feet to the tunnel, and you were saying “go!”… both of which can indicate the tunnel.
    This is another spot to immediately reward (or keep going) because she was entirely correct.

    You had a slightly lower arm and more parallel line motion at :40, so she found the layered line. Yay!

    In the next rep, at 1:02, the cues were a little unclear and she missed #3 but you just kept going: perfect!

    In this situation, less arm and more eye contact as she lands from 2 will set the line, and using a ‘jump’ verbal can totally help. if Go could means either, the Jump verbal can make all the difference. Then once she finds the line to the jump, you can add the Go go go verbals.

    >>Not sure why I decided to blind so early>>

    Yes, you did a blind at :43 at 4 then another one on the flat at :44 then another one 5-6 at :45. That’s a lotta blinds LOL! It was smoother when you kept her on your left at 1:03, and she was really good about staying on your line through the box! I think calling her name will tighten it up a tiny bit (which is all we need there) and doing the BC earlier will help too – when she is passing the tunnel entry and looking at 5 at 1:05, you can start it. It was a stride or two late, so she had to fix the line on landing.

    The rest looked really strong, especially the RC on 9 to get the layered line at the end! At 1:13, you did one of the “RC without really RCing” moves which is great! She had to think about it (normal young dog processing) so when you went ot the GO verbal while she was over the bar at 9, she dropped the bar – for now, one more heartbeat of delay with the verbals will help her. It is a fine line with the baby dogs, right? But it all smooths out with experience πŸ™‚

    Seq 4:
    1 should be on the other side to set up a serpy opening πŸ™‚

    On the right turn RC at 4, you basically did the same handling at 1:23 as you did at 1:13 from the previous sequence, and she was really good about organizing her jumping! Nice!!! And you said “go” over the bar too and she didn’t drop it. Super!

    She took the 9 jump instead of the tunnel in the layering section: I think the 5 jump there needs a directional, for now – kind of a ‘head’s up!’ cue that we are changing the line. It can be her name, then the tunnel verbal. She was definitely processing the tunnel verbal there at 1:26 (dropped the bar at 5). As she matures and gets experience, the obstacle name will be all you need.

    She had trouble with the threadle after it (she had it then you said ‘yay!’ so she came back for the cookie lol!) – you can either keep going to the next part of the sequence when that happens, or you can use reset cookies when you want to try it again. Not rewarding anything gets her barking and jumping up, which clouds the processing and changes the arousal level. She got it when you slowed down to show it to her, which is perfect, but you can totally use reset cookies for each rep as you work out the handling cues.

    Nice work on these! Lots of good info from Promise about what she needs to see! Let me know what you think! And fingers & toes all crossed for a dry weekend πŸ™‚
    Tracy

    in reply to: Julie, Kaladin & Min (Camp 2022) #40271
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Yeah, things got up-ended in the most unfair way. This world really sucks sometimes πŸ™ I’ve been thinking of you!!!!

    > I’ve been thinking for a while about how long I want to keep Kaladin at his regular 16in jump height. He is 16in tall and while he looks good at 16 and we’ve worked hard on his jump grids, I know 12 is easier for him, especially if the course is more technical. He is more confident at 12 and faster. I am also concerned about how long his back is and whether that is an issue at the higher height even if I can keep his core in great shape. (and yes, I’ve sent the same videos to his Chiropractor/rehab vet)>>

    Thanks for the videos – I think he looked really strong at both heights, and possibly better at 12″ because he didn’t have to think about jumping at all – he could just go go go (and turn when asked :))

    The more I watch agility, the less I like dogs jumping above their shoulders for any length of time. Sure, some dogs have a fine and dandy long career jumping high, but I think most dogs go faster, move better, and have longer careers jumping lower.

    I think moving Kaladin to 12S is great – he will get to go fast fast fast! And it will be easy on his body. And you will have to run really fast, which is something you do well and enjoy.

    At the moment, I am running 4 agility dogs, all of whom are jumping lower than their shoulder height: Voodoo is 20.5 inches tall and currently running in 16 Select because he is 9.5 years old. Contraband is 20.5″ tall and measures into 20″ class, so jumping just below his shoulders. Hot Sauce is 16″ tall and running in 12 select to protect her re-built patella – I simply have not seen a need to put her up to 16″. Maybe someday if I ever want to do international stuff? She also has a long back, like Kaladin, including an extra vetebrae. Elektra is 15″ tall which puts her into the 12 regular class for UKI! She is also super long and has a slightly inverted jumping style (head a little high, spine a little inverted – it is structural) so I am thrilled she gets to jump 12 then eventually 8 inches.

    So I am on board 1000% with jumping lower! It is easier (especially on varied footing like wet grass or rubber mats) and safer. And if you ever wanted to put him back up to 16? That option is still available. He will do great in either height, so I think running him at 12 will allow him to go faster and think less about the jumping organization.

    What did the chiro/rehab vet think?

    BTW – his running contacts looked FABULOUS here!!!

    Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Susan and Grady #40270
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! He did really well with the tunnel skills and the sequences here!

    Looking at the switch aways at the beginning – give his turn cue sooner and repeat the verbal, he was surprised and read it when he exited, with you closer to the entry. Being closer to the tunnel exit totally helped his see and hear the cue!

    Sequence 1 looked good! You can help him by starting his turn verbal sooner (right before he enters the tunnel) so he can be turning even before exits (1:07 and 1:43).

    Do the FC to the 8 tunnel sooner at 1:10, you were facing forward so he went forward. You were much clearer at 1:45 and he found it easily πŸ™‚

    Seq 2:
    On this one too, at 2:17 and 2:50 you can use your turn verbal sooner for the tunnel exit, he was looking towards you then turning – the timing gets very important when we put this cue into a sequence because he is relying on handling and can’t guess that we are doing the turn away πŸ™‚ based on the warm ups LOL! The rest of the sequence looked great!

    Seq 3 was also really strong! (You can do the turn verbal sooner here as well :))
    One other suggestion: At 11-12, you can try it as a blind as soon as you seem him leaving 10 and looking towards 11. That will be sooner and clearer. The FC can work, but start it as soon as he is exiting 10 and looking at 11. At 3:24, you did it as a FC but it was a bit late (he was in the air already). 4:08 was earlier but I bet a blind would be easiest.

    Tunnel magic warm ups looked good! And so did the sequence. The 3 jump is a threadle on that sequence, which should make it easier to get to the blind before the tunnel. But, you got the blind and he totally knew where to go! SUPER!!!

    He has great skills on these tunnel exits – the main suggestion is to cue your ‘turn’ sooner on the switch away reps (start it before he even enters the tunnel, and keep saying it :)) so he exits turned like he was exiting on the tunnel magic reps rather than looking at you then turning.

    Nice work! I will be back soon with the course videos!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Susan and Grady #40269
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Nice work on the pop outs!!

    Pop out 1: very strong opening each time! He read the serpy line very nicely!
    On the 3-4-5-6 line, I think keeping him on your left made the most sense and created a clear line (the 3rd rep). The FC on the 4 tunnel exit (and the BC there at :27) and the RC on 5 almost pulled him off 6 on the other reps. The dog-on-left line looked great!

    Pop Out 2: You can use a threadle wrap on 3 (or lap turn) here – the slice on 3 creates a really hard line to the #4 tunnel, and the threadle wrap to the inside sets a reall nice line.
    Based on how the tunnel is set here, I think 6 can also be a threadle wrap, but the threadle slice also sets up a pretty easy, fast line for him – the slice is probably faster on the 6 jump here because it is a smoother line to get into the tunnel than the slice exit of the #3 jump is, for ths pop out.

    Pop Out 3 & 4 video:
    this started out with a pop out 2 run and it looked good!
    When you added the speed from the DW, you can see how much harder the slice is on 3 to set him up to find 4 easily. So I think on this one, the threadle wrap on 3 is great and possibly the threadle slice on 6 is faster for him.

    On pop out 3 & 4 –
    The threadle slice on 3 definitely sets the better line to 4! It looked good each time.
    For 6 at 2:32 & 3:18, you were showing the line to the off course jump so he took it πŸ™‚ You had better position at 3:47 and 4:19, which easily brought him through the gap! You can also do a FC to a BC in that gap to pull him throuh more easily – the FC will get the turn and get you moving off his line, and then you can do a BC on the flat to get him on your left side – it is like a spin, but a bit more spread out πŸ™‚

    Great job here! Onwards to the live video!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Brandy & Nox (Sheltie) #40268
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    On this course, the same theme holds true – keep moving towards the obstacles so your motion is the main cue and really supports each line.

    You can see that being needed in the opening: As you move through the 2-3 line, you can closer to 2 as a serp to set the line to 3, and run more to 3. Do this with motion and eye contact as the main cues, using less arm pointing – pointing forward tends to turn your motion cues away from the line too soon. You can see that being closer really helped at 2:15, and you can be even closer – being an arms length away on serps works really nicely.

    She had a little trouble knowing which jump after the tunnel #6 on the way to the weaves – If you want to layer on the way to the weaves, start your out cue (verbal and physical) before she enters the tunnel – the verbal can definitely come a little sooner for her there, plus the physical cues all told her to take the jump she took: if your shoulders were turned forward, she took the off course, If you got way ahead and turned your shoulders to the line, she took the correct jump πŸ™‚

    In the middle section:
    The weaves – 15 looked good the first time! Super!!!! On the second run, you curled away from the backside at 2:32 so she took the front.

    At :59 and 2:50 – you were curling the physical cue away from the line so she didn’t take the 17 jump, even with the verbal (same with jump 16 at 2:48). So that is definitely a spot to keep moving forward until you are extremely sure she is heading to the jump and will take it.

    Getting the 19 tunnel on the closing line:
    the first rep looked good at 1:05 with the blind! She needed more connection to turn away into the tunnel there. The rear crosses can work nicely there too, especially to get her turned to the weave entry, but you will need to turn to face your feet to the tunnel. When you kept your feet pointing forward past the entry, she was not sure if you wanted it or not.

    On the closing line:
    weaves to the end looked good the first time through there! On the last rep, you turned away from it so she didn’t take it. So keep moving forward on the line to get her on it πŸ™‚
    Your motion is more powerful than verbals, so definitely add more motion toward the lines to support all of the good verbal an connections πŸ™‚
    Great job on these! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Brandy & Nox (Sheltie) #40267
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    Looking at the 2 jumpers runs, you did a great job with the verbals and connections! One theme has emerged on both of these courses (and you can see it in the earlier courses too): Overall, you can move towards everything more, with your motion as primary cue (and with connection) until you see her looking at the jump and locking onto it. You were tending to move your feet off the line (which caused your sholders to turn as well) before she actually got onto the line, so even with he good verbals connection, she was not sure of where to be. So run forward to everything more, and most of these refusals will disappear πŸ™‚

    Course 1:

    Opening – She is responding well to the threadle rotation here. You can use a wrap verbal on 3 to help get collection for the threadle, I think you were saying “left” but that doesn’t indicate enough collection.
    then stay connected to indicate 4 and move towards it rather than point and turn your feet away. When you were closer to it and moved towards it, she got it really well πŸ™‚ And also had good commitment to 5 when you moved to it.

    The 7 jump was harder to get commitment to, because you were moving away from it so she was not sure where to be. So keep moving towards it, watching her head, until you see her lock onto it – then you can move away while maintaining connection.

    In th emiddle section from 1:07 – 1:27, you had a lot of that moving towards the jumps to get the commitment and watching to be sure she committed, and it looked really great! Yay!!!

    Just a little more connection needed on exit of 13 at 1:28 – your motion was towards the tunnel and she could not see which line to be on, so that is a spot for direct eye contact with your arm back to let her know you want her on your left.

    You asked about where to be for the weave entry here:
    You can either do a blind 14-15 and send to 16, or you can keep her on your right and do a rear cross on the flat. It is a hard entry for sure, and more of a trained skill than a handled skill.
    You can then handle the weave exit on your right, layernig the 15/7 jump, so you can meet her at 18 to get the backside push or a threadle wrap on the inside wing. which puts you closer to 19-20.

    Then stay connected on the exit of 18 at 2:04 so she knows which side to be on: basically, make direct eye contact on the exit of every cross so she has clear info about which side to be on. And for the ending line (2:27) drive forward as close to 19 as possible, might even need an ‘out’ there to find the 20 tunnel. It is pretty far away and she will need the motion support to find it.

    Great job here! Onwards to course 2!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Susan and. Timber #40266
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! I am so glad you had fun and found so much to work on! I hope his gastro issues are all cleared up now.

    The reps on the video looked good!

    I think his success with finding the first jump of the layering surprised you on that first rep πŸ™‚ The praise pulled him off the line, which is good to know when you want himto keep going πŸ™‚

    On the 2nd rep – at :23 when he is beginning the layering, you have time to keep moving parallel to his line (on the other side of the tunnel) and still easily get back to the front cross. Standing still and sending caused him to ask questions about if he should collect or keep going, which is why the bar came down.

    The blind worked really well too, on the 3rd rep at :38! On the BC here and the FC on the previous rep, I think ou went a little too far past the line (too much between the uprights of 4 so he was a little wide on the landing line. You can head more towards the entry wing of 6, which should show him the line really well.

    The ending section of 7-8-9-10 looked great! Super!!!

    >>QUESTION: Are you going to have any other classes in the coming months that are appropriate for open level dogs?>>

    Yes – mini classes πŸ™‚ These will be short-form handling classes and skills classes that will take us through the winter. The first one will be posted next week and will start in October πŸ™‚

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

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