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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
I see what you mean with the poles! I think she loses you on the rear cross, especially when you hang back a lot like at :17. So get right behind her on the RC of the entry , just like you would with a RC on a jump. Then, for now, move all the way up the line of the poles to about pole 10, so she can see where you are and turn the correct direction. When she gets that, you will be able to hang back more and more, and she will turn correctly. Think of it as fading out your position one pole t a time: run to 10, then run to pole 9, then to pole 8, etc.The only other hard part was the threadle wrap . I think you were doing it with too much speed in the hand cues. You can slow down the turn away and keep your hands low more like 1:28 and the last rep, so she reds it as more of a collection cue and not a giddy up cue when you have a lot of motion or high arms.
Nice work!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>>What I’m seeing with Coal is that speed comes with understanding, the better he understands, the faster he gets.
This is good! It allows him to learn things really well, and then he lets you know he understands by adding in all the speed 🙂
The sequencing looks good! He is doing well on the a-frame 🙂
On the wrap of the double, you can rotate your feet to move forward sooner so that he can power out on the line after he lands. So when he lands from the triple, you can decel and take a step to the double. Then when he passes your feet, rotate your feet to the next line (towards the camera in this case :)) and then move forward. If he questions the commitment, you can look behind you to the landing spot as you move forwardGreat job here :) Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterNice work here with Min! Rear crosses are not her favorite thing 🙂 But they are great to have in the toolbox for when you need them!
Seq 1 looked great 🙂Seq 2: you got caught a bit behind the wing of 2 at :16 so she looked at you after landing and didn’t have a straight line to 3 because you had to navigate around the wing. The rest looked good!
>>not coming in over the jump after the tunnel.
Yes, that was so hard for her!! You can add more eye contact after the tunnel – it looks like she was getting lots of cookies for it and it helped 🙂
Turn away rear cross: you can set it with your hands like you did here, and also with more pressure on the RC line like you did at :53. Try not to pull too far away then push back in (like at 1:01), you can you move up along the RC diagonal – she read it each time you did that. Eventually you can fade the diagonal, but I think for now she needs the RC pressure.
She looked good on the bigger sequences! Yay! You had a little disconnection at 1:40 so she read threadle and needed more RC diagonal at 1:56 but overall she did all those RCs really well! NICE!
2nd video – revisiting the tight RCs to the other side: adding more RC pressure on the tight RC to the right totally helped at :16. Compare it to :12 where there was no RC diagonal and she had trouble reading it.
She had a little question at :23 – you were looking forward and not connected to him, so zigged in than zagged back out. So remember to looked at her even on these crazy RCs.3rd video –
>>Kaladin is feeling ambidextrous this week
For real!! He looked super smooth on these as well.
Kaladin just reads these all so smoothly, in both directions. YAY!!Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>>as my fitbit auto-recognized all my training sessions as aerobic workouts. Lol!
Ha! Perfect!!!
>>In the last video, 10-11-12 line, the reps where the wraps were good I did want a wrap. The reps after that I was going for a slice. I thought the slice would be better for him, but it was harder for me! We will try it again.>>
Good – I thought the wraps at the beginning were supposed to be wraps, and he did well! And I also agree – the slice is a better line for the dog but harder for us 🙂
T
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Great to see you here! The rear crosses are looking good! Yay!
For the backsides, you were running what I call a banana line which is towards the backside then away from it, curling your shoulders off the line. You can run more parallel to her line after 4 to support her line to the backside – you were curling your shoulders inward at :04 , :12 for example, which ends up with your shoulders pointing to the font of the bar.
You were *almost* perfect at :40 and :47 and :55 but then you curled your shoulders in at the last moment, plus you stopped moving. On the very last rep, you moved for longer and added a bit of arm support, and it helped! So you can keep moving forward until she is almost at the entry wing, with your shoulders facing her and with an exaggerated connection so she stays our on the line.
And yes, give that backside cue, it totally helped! And when you give it, look her right in the eye when you give it, which will help keep your shoulders in the right spot – keep saying it and looking at her til she gets to the backside 🙂
Great job!!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Lots of great work here!
Double crosses:
>>Just gonna say this is NOT going to be a ‘go to’ move for us –
Ha! Not yet, maybe… LOL!
It is a phenomenal move to tighten up timing!
On your left (first part of the video): Your first blinds were late and that is why it was so hard. They were starting when she was arriving at the wing (:40, for example) and that is when the first bind should be finished – so the lateness made it all harder.
And more importantly – the connection needs to come from eye contact, not from your arm being out. So try to keep your arms in upper tight to your ribs, so you can do the blind and look at her eyes, to help her see the new side. That will really smooth out the blinds!
On your right, the first blind as timely at 1:24! And you had more eye contact and less arm so everything went much better.
1:30 was even earlier! And nice low arm at 1:43!!! Those reps looked terrific.
When you went back to the other side, your first blind was more timely but you had more arms and less eye contact so she didn’t see it as well. So when she starts on your left, be sure to keep your arms in nice and tight, to emphasize eye contact on the end of the blind.
The first Ladder video went really well! She needed of moment of reminder to find the wing near the tunnel at the beginning. And you need to be quicker with your connection at :34 (fixed it nicely at :47) but overall, both sides looked great! Her commitment looked REALLY strong!
Ladder 2:
>>Hardest problem was me remembering what to do on the last wing – LOL!>>
Ha! This one is a brain bender for the humans LOL! But you got it and she read everything well! And she is bending really well in both directions nd I am super happy with her commitment 🙂
Great job here!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>>It doesn’t look lije she understands no motion means slow down.
I think she is totally making progress and really changing her striding!!! Even on just this video, you can see a big difference between her striding at the beginning at the end. It Is a hard skill; there is steam coming out of her ears for sure 🙂 But she IS getting it!!And also, because we are giving zero additional help, the turns will not look as good as they will with actual handling (connection, arms, rotation, verbal). So I am happy with this so far (probably happier than you are with it LOL!!)
>> I know forever ago I was told to have them stop with you at the jump, feed a cookie and then jump. Is that something we should try?
That causes a lot of dogs to stop then fling, so the variation that is more productive is to have a Cato plank right near the jump – have her run up and onto it, and into a tight sit. Then, release her from the sit to go over the bar. That helps organize the hind end to propel over the jump.
The other thing you can do is warm her up with just the wing, then after a rep or two, add a bar.
And for giggle, to measure progress: add a little handing: As she is going around the previous wing and exits it to approach the jump – add your verbal and rotate a little towards her, your outside arm can even drop in right in front of the bar. You will be seeing more collection when you do that.
Nice work! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
The laps and tandems on the single wings looks great, on both sides!
Tunnel – wing sequences:
He was HUSTLING here so you were a little late getting set up for the lap turns. I don’t think you have time to carry the toy and switch hands anymore, so you can have it in a pocket or on the ground off to the side – you need that extra heartbeat to get the handling going 🙂 He is moving so fast and he is still a baby dog, not even full speed yet. YESSSSS!On the 2nd sequence, the tandem with tunnel-wing then the skills in the full sequences looked great, especially at :45 and :58 when you were showing the tandem cues before he was even out of the tunnel! Those were tight, smooth and FAST! Love it!
Yes, you had that closed shoulder/little disconnect at 1:01 so he didn’t see the cue for the wing, good job to just keep going and connect more strongly. The rest looked great! I didn’t think your arms were too high throughout, and he read all the connections except the one missed wing.
Back to the lap turn with the toy: the lap turn suggestion of no toy-in-hand is so that the moment where you switch the toy to the other hand can be a moment where you start the lap turn cues, so that turn is as early and tight as the tandem turns.
Great job here! Let me know what you think.
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>>When will you be closing this class out?
September 15th!
>>Also, sign up for next class? I would like to be able to submit videos so I know I need to get in quickly.>>
>>And prep class for the upcoming competitions. >>I will get those posted some time around Labor Day for October starts.
T
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! The practice ring is a great option! I only knew to check the Cup about NFC because the Cup on the east coast this weekend is not allowing NFC and the upcoming local Classic say the premium that they may not allow it 🙁 Bummer!!!!!
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Course 1 ran pretty well! A couple of ideas:
2-3 is a turn away to get 3, so get further up the line to connect to tunnel exit so she sees it before she exits the tunnel. That will smooth out the line!Nice layering while she is weaving! Since the weaves look so good, don’t wait for her – drive to the backside more like what you did at 1:36. Also,
Being further away from the backside will help to get up the line 10-11. That backside needs to be super independent to smooth out the 10-11 line, which means you need to send to it from as far away as possible and run to it as soon as you think she is heading to the backside.You were a bit decelerated on the send to 13 at :33 so she didn’t do the layering. On this course, you can totally run closer to all the lines to set the layering (like run closer to 12 s she propels away to 13-14.
Course 2 –
>>It seemed like all our holes were uncovered in one course. How’d you do that? >> Magic! LOL!
The only thing on this course in the video was 1-2-3, unless YouTube is hiding the rest?
As you noted, you were pushing in to 3 too much. Treat it like. Backside circle wrap: let he see the entry wing and point your feet straight, and I think she will get it!
>>Fast forward to getting her to turn out of the weaves correctly. She kept turning to her left and cutting back thru.>>
How did you handle it? It didn’t see it on the video. Rear cross? If so, you might need to run further down the weaves so she sees where you are. Let me know !Nice work here 🙂 Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Watching both of these, I think a couple of things were happening here:
– definitely she doesn’t need to run these hard courses at 24. It is such a hard jump height and you are learning new handling and not perfect with timing or connection, so it makes it even harder for her. Rebuild her confidence by jumping 16 for a while! I would trial her at 20 so she can feel good about it too, especially on the harder courses.– also, be very connected with tons o eye contact 🙂 No arm flinging or pointing 🙂 That will help!
– to keep her in the game and wanting to run even if you are late or disconnected, be sure that you reward All.The.Things. I think she might have been taking the blame for some of the errors and that is why she was a bit tentative. All errors are human errors, so break things down and reward reward reward 🙂
– question about her weaves: she seemed tentative and careful in the weaves. Is that normal for her? If not, ry to get her checked out to make sure she is not sore or in pain anywhere. Keep me posted don that!
So for the next session, lower the bars, break down the sections (walk the course first and record your walk through!) and reward reward reward 🙂
Let me know how it goes!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
I think you were seeing a couple of things at play here:
Tight spacing, high bars, late handling, and possibly heat too.>>I think I stayed connected
Well…. Not as much as you might have thought LOL! Seeing her and being connected are different. You were seeing her but not really connected in a lot of spots
>>I know the bars are high but I didn’t ask her to do it too much and I don’t know how to get her to keep her feet up>>
Yes, 24” is a brutal jump height and I wish the AKC would get rid of it! To clear these bars she needs more distance between then (she had to take little tiny strides here) and needs a conditioning program specific to jumping along with regular rest periods where she does not jump 24.
So definitely spread things out so there is more like 20 feet between jumps, so she can get big strides going 0 and also lower the bars – she doesn’t need to jump 24 in practice. And if something goes wrong, either keep going or reward her. Issue it was a handler error (because it was :)) It looks like she did not get a lot of reward here (lots of times you stopped and didn’t reward) which is very deflating with the high bars and tight spacing (and some late/disconnected cues).
So a couple of thing that will help in terms of the handling:
During layering, try to do a very connected send (arm back, looking at her eyes) to send her to the layering. When you got in a bit past the layer obstacle then pulled back, she was confused and didn’t get the line or keep the bar up. And if you don’t connect, your shoulders will turn and pull her off the layering, so be super connected.On the sends, like at 3 on the last sequence here, make more eye contact and point forward less. She was struggling to find 3 because you were pointing forward and didn’t have side info. And on the backside wrap, you were try gin to help her come over the bar but you were standing in her warm so she had no room to jump with you on the landing spot – keep moving through!
So overall – spread it out, lower the bars, keep your arms down & eyes on her, and keep rewarding whether it is right or wrong as you sort out the handling 🙂
Nice work Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Lots of great work in this session!
The Walk through looked really connected and the verbals were strong! You can also add in deceleration rehearsal on the really tight turns like the very end of this course. On that ending line, you had 14 as a jump line in your mind when it is a tunnel 🙂 The tunnel makes it easier, but you did a great job with the harder jump line!The opening looked fabulous on the first run! You had a very strong send to 3 at :40. Yay! You were not as strong at 1:38 or 1:47 (you were turning too soon so it was pulling her off). In those moments, you can reset her with a cookie so it is easier to get her back on her line; otherwise she bops around in front of you and it is hard to re-start.
She took off too early for 5 at :42, so maybe a brake arm for that soft turn? But she didn’t repeat the mistake on any other rep, so nowworries.
For the backside of 9 at :51 – backside independence is still a new skill for her, so you can run more to the center of the bar (a little closer to the backside entry wing than you were) and keep your arm back for longer, exaggerate the cue, and don’t relax your arm til she is totally heading to the backside.
A different approach to getting the 11 jump after the tunnel: rather than bind after the backside, you can keep her on your right and run the other side of the tunnel, then push her to the jump and rear cross it! The threadle wrap that you added later in the video worked well too, you easily got up the next line to get 11!
The spin helped 11-12 a lot, that looked really good.
O the ending – the decel from 14-15 will really help set you up to be able to get a tighter wrap on 15. You were blasting to it so she as jumping long – – you had a little decel at the very end (4:14) and she was such tighter there! And maintain connection all the way to the end – when you stayed connected, she took that last jump perfectly. When you released connection at 3:18 by looking forward, she didn’t take the last jump. (Also loved the layering of the tunnel while she was weaving, that was AWESOME!!!)
Great job here – let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
This was definitely interesting! I mean, the quality of the turn to the right (slice) was MUCH higher than the quality of the turn to the left which was good-not-great. Is the still set up? can you walk the the distance from the landing of 1 to the entry of the tunnel?I think we are in ‘data collection’ mode – it is true that wraps can be faster in some situations, so we need to map out when. My guess is it is side preference plus distance, with distance as a breaking point. And data collection will help us know exactly where the breaking point it – 3 feet? 5 feet? 8 feet? Just how much shorter does the distance need to be to get the wrap worthwhile?
Also, if you have the itch to do it – mirror this and do it with the wrap being to the right and the slice to the left 🙂 Data time!
Let me know what you think!
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