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I think a separate post might be easiest for you to keep track of – we have lots of working pups and auditors so an auditing question post might get long 🙂T
Hello and welcome!!! I understand the foster failure thing and totally support it 🙂 And having 2 puppies at once? A bit crazy at first but TOTALLY worth it in the long run 🙂 I am glad you are here!!!!!! Have fun!
TracyPerfect! There is a time and a place for a clicker… but you’ll find that we don’t need it that often 🙂
TracyHi! Lots of lovely work here too!
Looking at the videos in groups:
Discriminations 1:
first video – doing the blind from a standstill was hard because you would basically have to finish the blind before the release. He figured it out based on motion Good boy!Video 2: After the BC, you can decel and do a spin rotation or a send – he was wide when you did just the post turn so those can help tighten up the turn after the blind. The flip away had excellent decel and he was SO TIGHT! Very nice!
Video 3: Sequence 1
There were 3 options 3-4 to get the line to the tunnel. You did the RC crosss here and it set a good line! You can get a little closer to 3 then drie with more RC pressure to the tunnel, to show the left turn exit before he went in. He turned correctly on the RC because the tunnel was turned that way, but your position can also support the left turn/RC.Nice push to the backside on 5!!! Try not to disconnect from him after the backside, that is an important connection spot so he was looking at you a bit more than we want there.
4: Sequence 1 2nd time:
ooh I like the position of your blind, great line! Remember to make more eye contact with him when you finish the blind. But the blind to the tunnel definitely is a great line with a ton of speed.Stay connected after 5 here too 🙂 The blind 5-6 worked to get 6 but made the line to 7 harder because you had to be further ahead to push him out so he looked at you there a bit.
5: Seq 1
This was a RC to the tunnel – it went well, but I definitely liked your blind better 🙂 The disconnection on 5 caused the dropped bar here because you were trying to get further ahead – but in this scenario, getting that far ahead made it a little harder to get the last jump and he needed more of a push out to it. I think the winning combo is the BC to the tunnel, then keeping him on your right 5-6-7.6: this was same as video 1, with just the blind to the turn.
Video 7: You did the FC to the tunnel here, but it was harder to finish on time so you were in the way and he had to hold up (and barked at you LOL!) The BC is definitely better in this context because you don’t have to rotate your feet to show a great line with the BC.
When he lands from 5, yo ucan decel and cue the left turn on 6 to the tunnel, so he can collect before takeoff and not turn on landing. That little bit of decel will help, he reads it really well.Next sequence:
Video 8: You can see he is turning wide after 3 on these reps, based on your position. On this video, freeze it at :05. You’ll see your FC is directly on the line to the tunnel, so he was guessing tunnel based on your line and motion then had to adjust for the FC so he turned when he landed. This was also the case on video 1 at :19. You can totally trust him more: send to 3 and do the FC closer to the 4 jump so he anticipates the turn based on your position and line of motion.9: to the tunnel, very nice 🙂 easy peasy!!!!
On the last video, to cue the turn on 4 to the tunnel: you can show decel and collection cues for 4 when he lands from 3, so he collects before takeoff. That will make it nice and tight, and also very fast 🙂
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHello and welcome!!! This will be fun! We can expand on her foundation and also fill in any holes. And 100 sq ft??? Yay!!!!
Have fun!
TracyHi again!
Yes, the mechanics are hard for sure and I feel like we all need 3 or 4 hands LOL! You can actually get rid of the clicker – she doesn’t need it and it is getting in your way. When she hits the target, you can use a ‘get it’ marker if you are tossing the treats – those markers are both click-like AND tell her where the treats will be, so she won’t look at you.
Excellent start on both of these! I am looking forward to the ‘official’ start tomorrow 🙂
TracyHi there! She is so fun 🙂 She is a tugging wild woman! And she is fast and smart! Love it!
This session went really well. You are definitely building value and that is fabulous!2 ideas for you:
When making the transition from tugging to the target, get the cookies out while tugging and the clicker ready… then get the toy back and tucked away and the last thing is putting the target in. That way the all0important first click is on time and the cookie is ready to go. You had the target going in before the cookie was ready, so there was a little delay and she was watching your cookie hand.
The next thing I would do is stop clicking and use a marker for the cookie tossing (I say ‘get it’) This will help her not look at you at all 🙂 More on the clicker (or no clicker haha) below. Great job here!!
Tracy
Hello and welcome! It will indeed be a party! I think the Golden puppies here can start their own club, there are a whole bunch of SUPER CUTE Goldens!!
Have fun!
TracyHello and welcome! I am excited to see you! I might know a thing or two about sport mixes LOL! And I think just about all of the demos are done by sport mixes, so you might see some similarities LOL!! Have fun!
TracyHello and welcome! Punch sounds amazing 🙂 She won’t get expelled LOL! We will try to tire out her brain and body 🙂 I am looking forward to it!
TracyHi!
It looks like he has a lot of trouble processing the distractions outside of the ring (like the people, his rewards etc) so when the course turns away from the ring exit, he struggles especially on jumping lines. When the course turns away from the ring exit and it is a standard course – he did well with the contacts early in the course possibly because they have very high value.Things looked especially hard for him when it was only jumpers and when he ran part of the course and had to pass the exit gate… but then come back into the course. That made his head explode a bit! Is he in a coursework class? Or even if you practice running courses on your own – I would definitely work the remote reinforcement game to the point where the reward is outside the ring and he runs a sequence that circles him back past the exit and into the ring (a common challenge in AKC). You can also get him wilder on the way to the start line, as well as talk to him more during the run especially when the course turns towards the exit.
Let me know what you think!
TracyHello! Here are some ideas on this first set of videos. He basically did a GREAT job on these skills, with only a couple of questions here or there.
I grouped them by subject:
Jumping away 1:
Very nice! You can start him on an angle at 1 (closer to the dog walk) instead of straight on to it, so he doesn’t have to turn as much on jump 1 to land and find 2.Jumping away 1 backside –
Also very nice – you easily got up there to the backside! Be sure you don’t hide the backside wing at all, try to let him see the entire wing. He had trouble committing with the countermotion, so you can build the skill up by throwing the reward to the landing side as you run forward past the wing, to help convince him to commit even though you are leaving 🙂Jumping away backside 2:
He was more committed to the jump with the countermotion on the backside here! You were well ahead which is great, but freeze the video a :09 – you can see from this angle that you are not really showing the wing, so run a line that is more to where the bar and the wing meet. Add a little more connection to his eyes and i twill be perfect! he curled in to you a bit and barked because connection was forward and not showing the lineSlice towards the course: looking really good! He read 1-2 perfectly. You can decel and send (with your wrap verbal) & leave sooner to get further ahead and a tighter turn on 2 🙂
Slice away from course – this was a better angle to start on jump 1 – you can do a similar angle on the first few exercises here. He read it really well, and you can release him back to jump 2 after the threadle even sooner (totally fine to use a threadle verbal there).
Backside strategies:
Threadle Wrap 1 – I think on the threadle wraps, he is waiting for into and so you can be more obvious with the hand motions for the wrap especially as you run more. The hand cue looks a bit too much like a send, so you can try lowering it (or using 2 hands) and then flipping him away with a circular motion, to make it look really different from a send or or threadle slice arm.
Push wrap 1: very nice! As with jump 3 on the openings (above), you can show more of the wing: your position is where the wing meets the bar. And throw the reward to the landing spot as you leave – he does not want you to leave LOL!! I think it has to do with the countermotion where he would prefer to jump towards you rather than jump behind you. You can see more of that here in video 3:
Video 3 – push wrap – he commits really nicely when you are on the landing side when he is taking off (because he is jumping towards you) but that makes it harder to get way ahead on course or leave sooner. So you can get a bit further up the line and get to where the wing and bar meet – and move forward as he passes you to arrive at the backside. Then throw the reward to the landing spot so he starts to love the countermotion 🙂
The ‘in in’ looked really good!! You were able to move forward earlier on the last rep here, and that is great. He likes these better than the push wraps: he commits well on this one, even when you are moving past it on the takeoff side! My guess is that he can see the wing more clearly and reads it more as a send and less like countermotion.
Video 4: Push slice – he is doing well here too! You can be further across the bar now to get further ahead on course: try to move further over to be parallel to his line, but with you running no closer to the entry wing than the center of the bar. If you are with him at the entry wing, you will be in the way when he is landing 🙂
He did well with the threadle slice too! Be sure to step to the jump for one more step – you ran away very quickly from the threadle slice so he had a little question there. You can take one more step to the center of the bar and when he turns his head to the jump – that is the moment you can leave.
And it sounds like you have a different verbal for each of these: Perfect!!!
Video 5: threadle wrap in sequence went really well, he is doing GREAT with his various threadles!!!
You can move the timing up to be a stride or two sooner on the blind (do it so you are finished before takeoff of 4) which will allow you to start the in in cues as he is landing. I think he had a little question about hands here too, it was hard to set it with the one hand that looked like a send hand. You can try bringign your hand (or both hands) in closer to your leg, nice and low, then flip him away to the bar just before he arrives at your hands.Video 6: push wrap
He looked at you on these. This is a good angle to see his questions! Your timing was really good with the verbals! At :11, you were looking forward and blocking the wing a bit, so connection broke and he didn’t see the wing as well when he landed from 4… so he looked at you. He looked at you until he ended up on the takeoff side and you stopped moving, then he looked at the bar. A similar thing happened at :33 – you can see how your leg is past the edge of the wing and connection was broken so he had questions there too. Try to make a lot of eye contact on these sends (dog side arm back to his nose) and make sure you are showing the whole wing by running to where the wing and bar meet.Video 7 – VERY NICE threadle slice! You can see the clarity of connection at :13, the clear arm use, and he had a clear view of the line. Perfect!
Video 8 – he is going to the backside push slice really nicely – you can run closer to jump 3 and send to 4, which sets you up to be able to sent to the 5 backside from further away (running to the center of the bar) – so you can be passing theexit wing and out of the way of the landing spot when he needs to land. You were a little in the way three and ideally you would be well past the exit wing as he is landing.
Under the DW 1 and 2:
>>I attempted the others on a different day using a manners minder… a person with a cheese ball works better.>>
I think Grady thought this was the BEST GAME EVER hahaha You can have someone else throwing the cheese balls… but be sure she is not the target he is running too by moving her around to different places. That way he locks onto the jump you are cuing no matter where the cheese thrower is standing 🙂 He was GREAT on both of these but the placement of the cheese thrower made it all too easy LOL!!!
So for the next session, try that or you can be the cheese thrower 🙂Great job here! I will be back later with thoughts on the rest of the videos 🙂
Tracy
