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  • in reply to: Jamie and Fever #36043
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!
    Sounds like another great day, with some really useful info! So, turns out, that Fever likes the busy ‘trial’ environment and it pumps him up in a good way – that is great and also happy-making because it implies a positive conditioned emotional response and not a negative/stressy one.

    To look at it from an outside context: in quiet classes, CB is good at flyball but a bit slower and also more likely to visit girl dogs in between his runs. But at a tournament? BRING IT, BISHES! Much faster and doesn’t even look at the other dogs: because the environment pumps him up and helps bring him into that optimal state of arousal for engagement and ‘work’.

    And of course add in all the games and training he knows to that mix, and things turn out really well.

    Seems like Fever is turning out the same way: too quiet? Lower state of arousal, which makes engagement harder because distractions in the environment become more noticeable (sounds, smells, etc). In a busier environment? The environment brings him up higher, so he is less likely to notice the other things – and he is more likely to produce trained behaviors (agilities).

    Add a little Zoloft to the mix? Yes please, life is good. And he will process things differently with the Zoloft on the scene, and you will continue to see changes in the next 7 week as it balances out.

    This is good! And it can be emotionally challenging for us as dog mommas, I totally get it!!!!! Frustration is real and also your amygdala goes into ‘fire alarm’ mode of all the things that could go wrong. So my job now is to remind you to be a scientist, be a trainer, be an observer – tell your amygdala to eff off and let you cognitive brain take over (long exhales help me when my amygdala fire alarm is going off, as well as recognizing that it is my amygdala and not actual reality: the amygdala can sometimes be a lying sack of poo!!!)

    Your cognitive brain can make the good decisions and work through things (or choose to NOT run, because that is valid sometimes too!) and you will feel good about these decisions, rather than stressed or frustrated. I totally understand exactly what the Pavlov (amygdala) versus Skinner (cognitive, pre-frontal cortex I think?) issues in our human heads, which helps me turn off the amygdala fire alarm in those training moments to make good decisions for the dog without getting frustrated, if that makes sense?

    It is never helpful to to tell someone to calm down, don’t get frustrated, etc, because those are all completely valid emotions and I totally relate because I feel those too! I have found it helpful to recognize where those feelings come from (simply notice them) and so those feelings won’t drive your decisions and you will also feel a lot better in the moment. When frustration or anxiety bubbles up for me in those situations, I notice them, recognize them, ask myself if there is a true emergency or if my lizard brain is just having a moment 🙂 All of that helps put them away and move forward without the frustration and anxiety (therapeutic practices for humans work GREAT in dog training too!!!!!!!)
    Let me know if that makes sense!

    Do you have another day of camp today? Sounds like he is doing well!!!!!!!! And yes, you can totally edit some footage if you want when you are rested.

    Tracy

    in reply to: Jill and Skippy #36042
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    I think these runs went really well!

    >> In the standard run I did our engagement at the startline and then started running. Not sure why she turned to look the other way – did I take too long to start running?

    That is hard to know, I think maybe it is a bit of a reflexive response (turning to look away on the start line) but she was great when you took off! Yay!

    >>Do you think the engagement at the start line was weak?

    Maybe? But you might also need to get her more engaged outside the ring so it bubbles over to the start line: barking, doing tricks, tugging, etc.

    >>She definitely felt some pressure in the ring on this run which resulted in her leaving me but she did come back and recovers. I think this stress came as a result of the following: the judge was this big guy and he was very close when I held her on the teeter (probably too long of a hold), then I set the wrong line and she went off course. >>

    It might have started with the long teeter hold (no need to hold it that long with a giant male judge stalking you) but I think it was mainly a combination of 3 things: not cuing the line to the table, the obstacle you wanted was the table (ewwww) with you trying to fix the error without any motion – and all of this was happening while you were facing the exit gate area and the crowd. I will go on the record to stay that this is kind of a lame challenge for novice dogs (ok, any dogs): the wingless and table are about 4 or 5 feet apart? Ewwwww. Add in a big guy counting. And placing it at the ring gate is not a fan favorite either – so if something goes wrong and feel the need to fix something? Don’t do it as a stop and definitely don’t do it to a table, where she has to be stationary and look around. Keep moving!

    And if you see a lame-o challenge like this in a really difficult location? Skip and and run past it. Her engagement and happiness is more important than a table!

    >>She started to come back and then I think she got worried and left. I got her back and she was able to recover and finished well. I could see that when I cue’d the weaves her step picked up and she accelerated. I think I need to do more work on having a Judge in the ring.>>

    Yes, she got going again when she moved away from the exit gate and you got back to running (not standing still, facing her, and trying to get her on the table which probably doesn’t have a ton of value to begin with, as compared to the weaves or DW). Yes – have a judge in the ring! And have sequences go towards the exit gate and all that, and bring up the value of the table with reinforcement. And you can also recognize a situation on course that will be bad for her (stop on teeter, strange jump/table distraction, male judge following her, all of this facing the crowd) – and simply make a better line for her for now.

    If memory serves, an off course is allowed in AKC Novice Standard (this is novice, yes?) and so you can set up a flowing course to the jump then run to the table, facing away from the crowd, and still get a Q. Or, skip it entirely because there was too much potential for something to go wrong, mentally, for her.

    >>The jumpers run, I started with the engagement and then asked for the line up without the sit which worked really nicely.

    I think this is my favorite start from you and Skipper that I have ever seen. You both looked relaxed and engaged, and she never sniffed, happily held the stand stay, no pressure, and she exploded onto the course when you released: LOVE THIS! YESSSSS!!!

    >>There a few spots of disconnection and in reviewing the video I can see that there was something outside the ring that caught her head after she came out of the tunnel which I think might be why she didn’t take the jump – watch her head.

    She struggles a bit with the crowd and exit gate, but this was a mild struggle. Yes, she looked and missed a jump but also she kept running fast and did not leave, so I score it a win 🙂 And you fixed stuff in this run in a fast flow, which is exactly the way to fix something if you want to fix. No stopping, only connected running. YAY!

    >>I don’t know if a dog outside the ring barking is a threshold issue or something else but would like to get your recommendations.>>

    The dog was barking on the start line moment too so it might be a dog barking but it is not an ‘over threshold’ moment because she did not leave or react. So I think what you are seeing is that yes, those people and dogs are still a distraction, but it is reducing in intensity because while she looked, she was able to keep running fast, stay engaged, and get back on track. In classes, try to get your classmates to have their dogs out and barking/playing/warming up where the entry/exit would be.

    So while yes, we learned some things to keep working on – overall, I think these were REALLY lovely and show definite progress towards the end goal! Bearing in mind that dog training can be up and down, and we might not always get the same great start that you got in JWW – I am thrilled to see it showing up in the ring because it basically looks like what you get at home or in privates with Jess & Perry. Very big happy dance!
    Are you trialing today too?

    Tracy

    in reply to: Lori and Beka (BC, 7.5 months at class start) #36035
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    >> <So getting right onto the diagonal and moving towards the center of the bar will help set the line a lot sooner>
    hmm, I have to wonder if the angle of where the camera was is throwing things off. It wasn’t dead center of the jump pointing at the wing, it was off to the side some. I was running pretty straight to the center of the jump before cutting across. I will put a leash down to make sure next time.>>

    You were running towards the bar, yes, but in a straight line until she committed and not a diagonal – so there was no pressure moving into her, and the pressure is the cue 🙂

    <Hmm, that makes sense but my question would be how is that different from a regular threadle for a jump say, or since it’s a threadle it should be the same, which would make sense.>

    The arm cue is the same as a jump threadle, but the verbal and the line of motion before it and during it are different than a jump threadle.

    >>And in case you see this that get me wondering about something else – tandem turns – I was looking at the turn away video again and you mention using 2 hands but in the video use use one with contraband and do the flick away with it? You also mention it will likely involve the threadle verbal depending on the circumstance. So how is the ‘regular’ threadle, tunnel threadle and tandem turn different? They are starting to strike me as not being really different and the hand signals seem to be pretty much the same?>>

    I think they are entirely different 🙂 The tandem turn is a low, two-handed move (for most folks, it is up to the handler if she wants 2 hands or not) that sets a rear cross on the flat and the handler is also turning (rear cross)- so the 2 hands are low, and moved to draw the dog in and the dog needs to wait for the turn-away cue so the handler can set the proper line. The tandem turn is entirely a handling cue – it does sometimes “morph” into a threadle wrap because that is one of the ways it looks different than a threadle slice. The threadle slice and tunnel threadles are cued behaviors that are on a single cue – then the dog should go do it independently and not require more cues to complete it. And the hand position is different – it is a single arm, held across the body back towards the dog and shoulder height. The verbals for the threadle slice and tunnel threadle are different from each other, and the tandem turn can have a variety of different verbals, depending on the context. Let me know if that makes sense!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Riot and Elizabethanne #36032
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>I am trying to find some other options for agility locally. It’s a challenge and living in an agility class desert is really impeding our ability to trial.

    It stinks that it is hard to access classes! It definitely makes it harder to go from “home schooling” to trials. Can you arrange group privates with a local instructor? Or a training group that simulates a class?

    >> What you suggested is exactly what I did with Riot in scentwork. I put him in a new class with different dogs in a new location that was well below his scentwork skill set. It helped him so much because the searches were super easy and he was able to get experience and have success in a novel location with lots of people providing pressure by watching him in close proximity. I know if we can do the same in agility it will help.>>

    Exactly!!! Make the sports skills easier so he can learn about the environment.

    >>Since the ASCA trial, I have seen some stress in him during our two practice sessions. In the first, we were outside, and he was wanting to grab at the grass again. In the second, we were indoors and he was spinning. Outdoors, there was only one other person and dog. Inside, it was just us and Stevie. >

    This is good info about bringing him into the training environment! You might need to bring him in on a pattern game each time (even if it is not a totally new environment) and also practice those instant focus games! Set the high rare of success and also assessing the environment in the familiar, predictable pattern game context. This can all happen before you try any sequencing and should avoid the stress responses.

    >> I suspect ASCA was a bigger withdrawal than I ever would have anticipated.

    Maybe, but probably not – it was a while ago by now, so it might be more about how you brought him into the environment and how you started the training.

    >>I confirmed there will be a UKI trial in June and another ASCA trial. Both with male judges. I may just end up practicing our “before we enter the ring” stuff and then play in the ring with his leash on. But I think I ought to enter and at least do something, even if we can’t run because he may bark at the judge. What do you think?>>

    Definitely enter and play! And before then, work on pattern games with 2 toys so you can actively do them in the ring with the male judges 🙂
    Keep me posted!!! See you in CAMP!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Jamie and Fever #36031
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Yay! This is great!!!! Sounds like you set him up for success and he was super ❤️ how did today go?

    T

    in reply to: Amy and Char (standard poodle) #36025
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! If the opening is simple, you can release to the first obstacle when she speaks, that’s probably most reinforcing for the speak (she should not be in a stay when you ask for the speak, because most dogs move when they bark). Or, you can get the speak and ask for a short stay 🙂 keep me posted!
    We keep going here til June 1st 🙂
    Tracy

    in reply to: Lori and Beka (BC, 7.5 months at class start) #36019
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>

    LOL!!! This is highly unlikely to happen in any significant way at least. You play flyball now – you know there are some people that are really loud – well that is me in spades. It is very hard for me to seriously adjust my loudness, especially when running. I will try but thinking I won’t be terribly successful.>>

    Well, in flyball I also hear variations in pitch and tone in order to help the dogs pick out the sound in all of the chaos. It takes some practice but it is TOTALLY worth it – otherwise if all the verbals are the same volume and style of delivery, the training of the verbals to fluency is much harder.

    >>but now you have me wondering if I shouldn’t use a different word for that one since they do sound a lot alike. I use ‘push’ with Rayven because ‘bye’ puts Ray seriously over her arousal threshold.>>

    I would say that riii and bye sound a lot a lot and you will get errors, so push is a better choice.

    On the videos:
    For the RCs, you can emphasize the RC diagonal more so show the line, which will help her sort it out. On the first video with the Rear crosses – she is watching your outside arm for the throw as the turn cue, and you are late getting onto the rear cross line – like at :28 where you are not even really started and she is turning away based on your throw (you are throwing *then* rear crossing) So getting right onto the diagonal and moving towards the center of the bar will help set the line a lot sooner (and don’t throw til after you see hre head turn). If she is struggling, you can place a toy out on the landing spot but you still will want to get right on the RC diagonal.

    When you switched sides, the RC diagonal at :58 was better but it is harder to see your line when you are on that side – you can see things more clearly when she is turning to her left tha you are getting it from the throw not the line of motion, so really emphasize the line of motion.

    2nd video –
    She did well with the backside wraps and read the difference between all the cues really well too! Yay! Yes, she was wide on the first rep because there was so much acceleration, you don’t need to run as fast out of it on these yet with a baby dog 🙂 You were a bit slower on the next backside and it helped! When you switched to the other side, she was also surprised by the speed when you accelerated on the first one and she slipped – she was more organized when you stayed in a smoother motion on the next rep.
    Looking at the RCs – the RC at :37 was created by the toy throw like in the previous video, but better RC diagonal at 1:06!!!

    That RC diagonal is what made it hard to get the RCs after the tunnel:

    On the video, it was hard to see the angle but I would say you were late on the diagonal pressure on all of them, except for being too early at :22 when you cut in before she got more than a stride past you and 1:15 where you pushed her off to the backside.

    I think she was pushing off of pressure when you switched sides (probably guessing because there were too many failures) – also it might be that she thinks pressure is the RC cue, but we don’t want it from that far away – At 1:39 you did time the pressure better but it was not a RC diagonal, so you were doing more of a pull+ flick which can create confusion. So for the diagonals, lay a leash on the ground for you to mark your running line from the previous obstacle to the center of the bar to get on the diagonal sooner, so you are not using the throw to create it and not getting on the diagonal late. Your RC diagonal should be started as soon as she is out of the tunnel, but you need to run forward towards the center of the jump bump til she is just about at it, then finish the RC to prevent pushing her off the line.

    Tunnel threadles:

    >>as it occurred to me that my word ‘me’ is way too similar to ‘le’ >>

    Ah yes, those do sound a lot alike.

    She did really well with these too!!!
    In terms of stylizing this cue so it completely independent: I know a lot of people do use that ‘check mark’ arm cue to send the dogs back out, but I recommend you do not cue her to get into the tunnel by flicking your arm back out – the verbal and arm *are* the cue to go to the tunnel entry, and if she waits for you to flick her out to it, then you have one more thing you have to time. Plus, if you are behind her or not that close, having to flick her back out becomes very challenging. So basically keep the verbal going and the arm in position (no flick back out) til she turns her head away and puts herself into the tunnel entry.

    If you see her waiting for you to flick her back out… don’t flick her back out 🙂 Just keep moving towards the tunnel entry you want, feet forward to it, repeating the verbal and holding your arm stationary. You were pulling away from the running line, which makes it harder for her to find it., so keep moving towards it.

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Amy and Char (standard poodle) #36018
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! I loved your lead out here! She was LOCKED onto you!!! And the run was great. She was fast and focused – note the dogs near the side of the ring, people, and even with the little bobble at the end: no worries, she came right back to focus. YAY!!! I think this will be a good one to play around with as you work through the steps to get the toy from your hand in the ring, to hidden in your pocket, to no toy at all 🙂

    >>I’m still not sure whether she’s an all business dog getting to the line and then volume dial at the line. What can I do to test this?>>

    Experiment with it in different situations and note her responses. How does she do when there are distractions and the toy is NOT visible? That will be the most telling situation. And you can pull tolls out of the toobox as needed: if she is normally “all business” but is distracted in the moment, then you can whip out the cartoon lead out and see how she does 🙂

    >>The one thing that really gets her amped is when I ask her to speak. She can do this at home on the startline very well but I’m worried that if I ask her to do it at a trial (even if it’s just FEO) that she won’t do it. I think if I can get her to do this on the startline it will be huge! What should I do to progress to this? I don’t want this to become just another stressor at the startline so I want to make sure I’m not moving too quickly. >>

    I would ask for it outside the ring, with the toy visible, and reward her. Then bring it into the ring with an FEO run, toy visible – and reward her (then ask her fo the sit for the lead out).
    And if you ask for it and she says “I can’t” then that is FABULOUS information that she is struggling to get into the optimal state of arousal – so you can do other tricks and maybe the cartoon lead out in that moment. If she can’t bark, no worries, you don’t need to pressure her to do it – then it won’t become a stressor because it is not something you demand.

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Wendy and Sassy the Chinese Crested #36017
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Yay! You are going to be busy this summer (winter :))

    T

    in reply to: Elaine and Sprite Part 2 #36016
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>>> These runs looked really fast and engaged!!!
    YES!! They felt easy and I didn’t have to think.>>

    Yay! They should feel fast, smooth and easy 🙂

    >> Clearly he was a limbo champion in a past life
    Funny thing is I have one fitness game where he’s supposed to go under a cavaletti pole. His first action is to put his front paws on it and he does not like going under it.>>

    Dogs are so funny!!! That cracks me up!

    >> both of you entered the ring with a smile
    One of my classmates just noticed his new name tag MR FUN as we started. He is one happy little dude wagging his tail for the unleashing.>>

    Perfect – we want him to be happy about it!!

    >> If standard is first
    Yes, it is then Gamblers. Your memory is fine. I didn’t realize the order is consistent.>>

    Hopefully it will not be a million degrees out! It was brutal here today!! Fingers crossed for a cold front!!

    T

    in reply to: Amy and Promise #36015
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! It sounds like it was a productive appointment!!!! Which meds did she recommend? I think she is going to do well with that – she is already doing GREAT with her agility skills!

    T

    in reply to: Wrapping Up! #35998
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    I should have said the 19th, but no worries, if you have more to post up I am happy to look at it!

    in reply to: Brenda and Zippie! Basenji #35993
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >> Yes, the covered / open air training arena is familiar to her, and there was a barn hunt class going on behind us, I didn’t realize how much noise was getting picked up, LOL.

    All good distractions!

    >>Good to know that I can party “food from the hand” in Find My Face because that will lower the latency — every piece of cheese or meatball gets icky gross in the arena dirt – blech!>>

    Yes – now that we are past the teaching phase of FMF, you can shift rewards to your hands (no need to use the pattern game framework now because the cue is your bad handling LOL!!! My dogs love my terrible handling hahahaha

    >>I’d like to start adding more speed to this game – but I assume I don’t need to slam on the breaks for a disconnect? I’m thinking a clumsy blind cross or running off her line without cuing a pull would be good examples? Or maybe we don’t want to practice bad handling at speed intentionally (it happens often enough without)?

    No need to add speed to it – it will happen organically as we try to handle courses and mess up LOL!! Ideally, we never mess up and never need this game, but that is simply not agility reality for anyone. You main goal should still be fast & fun sequences rather than setting up deliberate stops – but she will be prepared for mess ups. So in the moment of mess up: reward her then keep going.

    >>What I think I’m hoping for is, if / when we get separated on course, she should either take an obstacle and come find me or just find me, and since IRL that happens at speed do we practice at speed, or does the money we put in the bank in these small set ups set the concept, and as long as we reward when it happens IRL (cause it will), that’s the better carry over?>>

    Yes, the money in the bank concept followed by the reward in the moment is exactly what we are going for.

    >>Thanks for the note on depletion, I will keep that in mind.

    Depletion is challenging because we don’t see it, til something happens. So limiting sessions to never see depletion is ideal.

    >>We have a private lesson tomorrow in a new place, with someone I’ve discussed our goals of “wind in our hair” front sides of jumps running. We may find that this private lesson approach replaces our group classes in that it’s a better fit for the course design you suggest we focus on. I’m mindful of over training but trying to find a good fit for all that we’ve been working on these last ~ 10 weeks. we’ll warm up with the various games as appropriate then see what we have.>>

    It is a hard call – the privates are great for the fast and fun and front side giddy up side of things 🙂 but she needs exposure to other people and dogs in the group setting, so I don’t think you want to let that go entirely. The most perfect combo would be putting her in a lower level class (like pre-novice or anything where they emphasize ‘get on a line and stay on a line’) rather than backsides or threadles or anything that pulls her off lines. I put my dogs in lower level classes all the time, because I want them to passionately find the lines they will see in competition before I add in the fancy pants moves that they will almost never see (and I do a TON of UKI, and I will tell you that they still almost never see most of those moves except for a couple of types of classes that I don’t enter them in LOL!!!

    Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Mike and Ronan (Border Collie) #35992
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!
    When Mike is away, the Pony will play! (It is too early here for poetry hahaha). And the photo of the BCs on their backs is adorable 🙂

    The sessions looked good here!

    The serps are looking really good – nice timing of departure from 1 at :20 and :25 and :32, and yes I liked your upper body position a lot at :32!!!

    On the wrap-to-the-inside of 2, much calmer timing at :42 🙂 The timing is to let the dogs run across our feet, which is what you did here. He looked a you a little like “what the heck!” But his commitment and turn looked strong!

    At :46 you added more lean over to jump 2 and more dog-side arm to indicate it – I don’t think you need that there for him, as he will commit with the position and verbal and ‘new arm (left arm in this case) which will require you to twist less. The other reasons to not use the cross arm here are that it will be easier to eventually explode away when you are not twisted as much, and also that cross arm can sometimes indicate a slicing rear cross (whiskey-ish turn) so you want to use the new arm to help him know it is a wrap not a RC.

    Nice FC at :52! You will be able to leave earlier and earlier – partially because he will be more experienced, and partially because as he grows up and the jump height rises, he will need to make earlier commitment decisions to take off for a 20” bar, which makes you being able to leave even easier 🙂

    Looks like the stays are going well too, and you are rewarding – the stays are a critical element of these skills for sure 🙂

    The Get Out session went well too

    You had good connection on the get out and a clear difference with the ‘don’t get out’ reps. He did really well!

    And adding the FC at 1:43 and blind at 1:51 went well – he looked a little surprised on these but it might have been a timing thing (you can be earlier, starting it as soon as you see his head turn to the bar), plus lack of experience on the crosses after the get out.

    When you moved the wing further away for 2:04 – FC was really great! Perfect! he was understanding that it was coming plus you had more time & room to start it. Really lovely!

    The bar moment at 1:18 was not a bar drop – he pushed the wing to drive to the toy when you said ‘yes’. So try not to say yes LOL!!! It is a bad habit that we ALL do when we shouldn’t and it causes errors – yes as a reward marker (whether we trained it on purpose or not) causes too much handler focus. For the get out, you can mark the correct decisions with a toy toss on the line rather than driving to you.

    The bar at 2:11 was caused by a late blind The side changed happened as he was in the air so he scrambled to adjust and couldn’t get it done. You can use a reset cookie there if you don’t want to give him the toy – presenting the toy and then pulling it away can cause frustration, so you can wait to mark and present til you see if the bar stays up and you can also use a different value of reinforcement if it falls. I use a reset cookie as a “that was my fault, sorry, thanks for trying hard and not biting me” 🙂
    In general, I will only withhold reinforcement for a dropped bar with a baby dog if I can mark the exact moment I saw him make the decision to drop his feet on it or touch it (really hard to do). When adding in new moves that require timing from us and adjustments from the pup, you can also lock in the bar at first so you two can work it out without potentially hitting the bar.

    Note the massive difference in timing at 2:17, I liked this timing! He was pretty good there too, lost confidence with the commitment at the last minute: also worthy of a reset cookie. To build more commitment on these especially as you add in the crosses, you can throw the reward to the landing side to balance the value rather than have him come to you for the reward. On the last rep, you waited til he landed which set him up for success! Yay!

    To help build the independence on the skill with the crosses here, you can add the thrown reinforcement and also, walk through the exit of the crosses. Motion is the devil LOL!! So when adding the early timing and crosses, you can dial back the motion distraction – then when he is very successful, you can dial the motion back up to add in running 🙂

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Donna and Wish #35991
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!
    It was great seeing you and the girls and the whole NY crew last weekend! I have missed you all!!!! And all handlers and dogs looked great 🙂

    Lots of good work here, with 2 of the most challenging games!

    At the beginning with the tunnel threadle game –
    At :13 when she didn’t go to the wing and ended up in the threadle tunnel entry – I would have rewarded her there, she was reading your motion and you hadn’t really stepped to the wing. That might be why she went to the straight ahead tunnel entry at :19 and :31 (“the other side didn’t get rewarded, must be this side”). You got her doing it nicely after that!

    She did well on the tunnel threadles when rotated your feet towards her as she wrapped the wing. In the next session, try to fade that out by moving slowly but with your feet facing forward. Rotating feet will work if you are ahead of her at the right time… but we don’t want the foot rotation to be the cue because you won’t always be ahead of her 🙂 She is speedy!!! So you want to be able to handle it from behind too 🙂

    :58 is a good example of “don’t say yes” (or any yes variation) as a marker because it pulls the dogs off lines LOL!! Ask Tina how she also has a good demo of that from yesterday’s video LOL!

    Adding figure 8s went well! She is definitely listening to the different cues really well, so now we can fade out the foot rotation.

    Backside proofing:
    When she is turning to her left at the beginning, at 1:48 – to help her find the bar as a default you can drop the reward in on landing side the instant she arrives at the entry wing rather than waiting to see if she will take the jump.

    You got her to come in with rotation on the next reps but for the eventual serps and German turns where you don’t rotate, the early toy drops without foot rotation will really help. You had really good feet forward serps at 3:50 and 4:11! This is what I mean about not rotating and she did well (right turns are easier for her). Good timing of the toy drop at 4:19 with countermotion.

    I think that she is stronger turning to her right on both of these games (we can really see it here at the end of the backside video – so you can start the sessions with the ‘easier’ side (turning to her right) then change to the left turns.And for the left turns, the earlier reward will really help on the backsides.

    One more thing for the next backside session: You can now fade the extreme connection a bit, less dog-side arm back so you are not rotating your lower body at all, do the arm-back and connection only enough that your feet keep moving forward with speed (the theme is feet forward here :)) And add more motion like at 2:54 – she smoked you and there was not enough motion to support the backside. When you were ahead of her or parallel to her, she was great 🙂 For now, you want to set the line from ahead of her and in motion.

    Great job here! Let me know what you think and see ya in MaxPup 3!!!
    Tracy

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