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Hi! This also looks good! A theme developed: Don’t rush, take the one more step 🙂 You were moving away from some of the lines too quickly an dtoo soon, so she pulled off the line. It frustrates her to stop, so if that happens, try to keep going so she doesn’t get into frustration mode on course.
1-7 looked really great here!! Fast and smooth!!! She always tells us if she thinks that perhaps the info is unclear, and I heard no Sheltie complaints in the opening 🙂
She did get mad during the tunnel discimination moment: I think you said “Go” on the ay to the 7 jump then did the threadle cue (so she was mad about the go, but came in on the threadle cue. But then at :10 you rotated and tried to fling her to it behind you as you ran away and she complained LOL! You were pretty far from the tunnel so it was a don’t rush moment: be sure to keep moving towards the tunnel til yo usee she locks onto it.
On the 2nd rep, you still said go for the jump (a name call for attention would work better there) but you ran forward for longer on the tunnel threadle, so she got the correct end of #8. Yay!
On the 9-10-11-12 section with the threadle, another don’t rush moment 🙂 It sounds like you cued a left of 9 (jump after the tunnel) so she was actually turning a little too much at :48 and 1:11, so she pulled off of 10. She might not need the left for 9, but definitely needs it for 10. When you moved in a little more, she got it nicely and also she read the threadle really well at 1:40 when you did not rotate your feet.
Looking a the wrap after the tunnel – it is another don’t rush moment 🙂 Remember to aceclerate, then make the transition to decel, rotate anddrive her to the tunnel lie at 2:38
The backside at 20 will probably need you to be ahead to get it really smooth, so you can also isolate this part of the course and send to the tunnel so you can get waaaaaay ahead to show it to her 🙂
Great job here! And great running in the heat!!!!! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi again!
Breaking down the opening went well, with the send to 1 and threadle at 2, she totally remembered the Strike A Pose game. Next session, try it with the lead out, starting on landing of 1 and continuing to back chain from there.The middle section looked good again! She didn’t jump the bar on the 12 backside at :26, and I think it is because you closed your shoulders forward – it is a serp, so keep your shoulders open to the bar and serp arm back, with eye contact so she doesn’t rush past it.
This is a slightly different angle than the other video, so now I can see the 17 tunnel is a definite turn away from the line and not straight from 15-16. That would explain why it was so hard to get her to go! A get out cue would work well there too! And start it really early, no later than landing of the 16 jump. You got the tunnel by stepping to it, but that caused you to have to decelerate and made you late getting the BC on 18 (and she came to the backside of it).
Nice work! Onwards to course 2!
Tracy
Hi! A lot of good timing and connection happening here!
Opening line – more upper body rotation to push the to the backside to face her will help he rpush to it – your feet were good but your shoulders were pointing to the front of the bar (she took the front on the 2nd time too but you got better connection for 3-4-5
>> I want to be able to do all the ways for the opening. In my mind the threadle opening will be the best for her once she learns threadles>>
Yes, I think you are correct – the threadle opening will work really well. You can totally isolate it and work just 1-2-3 to get the threadle. Do it like the Strike A Pose game from MaxPup 🙂
Holy wow 3-13 looked AMAZING! 14 is supposed to be a backside but no worries for now 🙂 She needed more serp shoulers/ conenction at 1:07 for 13 – you turned forward after hte 12 backside serp and said go, soshe had to send herself out to get 13 and couldn’t quite keep the bar up
>>I struggled here to get all the words out and fell a little silent. It all happens so fast!>>
Totally agree! The more youpractice at this speed, the easier it will be to get all the words out.
>>Other issue was send to second tunnel. I feel like my I was too far ahead and then showed too much decel which caused her to pull off and hesitate.>>
That was a hard line for sure! At 1:12 – connect back to her on the go tunnel at 17, you were pulling away and looking forward and it is a hard line for a small dog. You can also go in closer to the 15 tunnel to be able to acclerate her aahead of you. At 2:07 you sent her to 15 and got way ahead but that is not realistic to where you would be realtive to her speed 🙂 It looks like the 17 tunnel was a bit of a lead change away and not exaclty a staight line, so you might need an ‘out’ cue there too! And remember to keep your arm low and back on the sends – at 2:44 you had a big high arm on the send to the 17 tunnel and it was confusing to her because it turned your shoulders away from the line.
First time through the ending line was hard but you were good to keep going, shewas trying to figure it out so it is always good to keep going. The BC on the ending line was much clearer on the 2nd rep!
>>I know I caused most if not all the bars down.
This was a lot of big distance and high speed – so you can approahc the jumping 2 ways: the whole course at 8″, and pieces of it at 12″. Then over the summer, we can merge it all together so she gets used to jumping these big fast lines at full height.
Great job here! Onwards to the next one, if the internet cooperates!
Tracy
Hi! I haven’t forgotten you! Trying to load the videos here in a cycle of storms so I keep losing them. Darned country internet! I’ll keep trying…
Nice work on these lines!! The camera placement was fine 🙂
Remember to call her before she enters the tunnel right at the start, so she turns on the exit.
For the threadle of the 14 jump at :10 – she is responding well but you were really far from the jump, so she did not know which bar to go to. You can run closer to the curve of the course there, so you are closer to the wing of 14 (without slowing down) to cue the threadle
:29 – too far and stepped away too soon
She got it after that, you are stepping back to the jump and we want to keep you running forward. You were a little closer at 1:02 where she got it in flow. Being closer to the jump will allow that and ultimately get you better field position (always running forward rather than rotating and stepping back to 14). And the threadle does set up a very fast line to the 15 tunnel!Great “left” verbal at 1:05 and she had a great turn on the last tunnel! The ending line looked good with you staying in motion (and on fresh legs :)) You can be even further ahead for that last line by being more lateral on the 15-16-17 tunnel-jump-tunnel line (she would probably be perfectly fine to do it with you further up the course, running towards 19.
Nice job adding the collection cues to 7 at the end – I timed it versus the previous video. Now, it is hard to compare 2 different days but I was consistently getting the collection to be .07 -ish slower. That is not a lot but again in the 20″ BC division… it is a lot LOL!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
I think StrykR is now the happiest Sheltie in the world, because of the magic of squeeze cheese LOL! Super super confident!!! You can add more motion challenge to this game: keep moving past him while he is driving to the end, and even add in a blind cross! And, the other option is to do a wrap on the cone with you near the cone, then send him up the board while you do a rear cross.
And if that continues to go as well as this did? Move the chair out the tiniest bit, so he has the tiniest bit of motion as he goes up the board – less than half an inch. We want to be very gradual in adding a moving board to maintain this awesome confidence.>>Everyone around here has Mark’s Clip &go teeter. Lol
Ha! Good point – you might have to come south where we see a lot of Max200, Galican, and MADAgility teeters.
Rear crosses:
good job rewarding on the correct line, even when he didn’t turn correctly. That helps the dogs sort out the rear cross cues.I think the hardest part here was the timing, because he is already fast and keep getting faster. Doing it as a one-jump drill worked when you started at the landing spot of the jump before the RC jump. And he was stronger to his right, of course – but the magic of the RC will be in running to the center of the bar sooner, to show him the RC cue (which is pressure on the line).
The 2 bloopers that happen when we don’t move towards the center of the bar early enough are turns the wrong direction or accidental backsides.
So for example, at 1:03, you were moving to the inside wing (which cues a right turn) for a bit too long – at 1:04, he is about a stride from takeoff and has made the decision to turn right. Then you pushed into him really fast, so he went to the backside. Good boy!
At 1:19, you are moving up the line to the inside wing so at 1:20 he commits to turning right. Then right as he takes off, you pressure in and say “left” but it is too late and he turns on landing – you can toss the reward to the left turn spot for that, to help him predict where you want him to go on that cue.
So to get the RC – from the wing of the jump before the RC jump (the jump after the tunnel), you would start moving straight towards the center of the bar of the RC jump and when he passes you and is near the jump, you can cut in behind him.
You might be asking: but what if I am ahead of him? In that situation, you would decel at the jump after the tunnel to set the RC (decel and face the center of the bar of the RC jump) to set the line, the as he catches up to you – you would accelerate up the line to the center of the RC bar til he catches the turn. A good by product of this is that you don’t get left too far behind on the RCs 🙂
On the right turn RCs, he is stronger to his right so he was able to make the adjustment in the air – if you play it in slow motion, you will see him take off to his left at 1:41, for example, then turn right over the bar. That is harder to pull off when he is turning left on the RCs! That right turn RC has a hard line of entry to it, so you will probably have to decel and set it on the jump after the tunnel for a bit longer, til he catches up to you, so you don’t get too far ahead.
Let me know if that makes sense! Great job here! How are you feeling?
TracyNice work on these lines!! The camera placement was fine 🙂
Remember to call her before she enters the tunnel right at the start, so she turns on the exit, otherwise you get some extra yardage.
For the threadle of the 14 jump at :10 – she is responding well but you were really far from the jump, so she did not know which bar to go to. You can run closer to the curve of the course there, so you are clsoer to the wing of 14 (without slowing down) to cue the threadle
At :29 – you were a little too far and stepped back to it too soon.
She got it after that, you are stepping back to the jump and we want to keep you running forward. You were a little closer at 1:02 where she got it in flow. Being closer to the jump will allow that and ultimately get you better field position (always running forward rather than rotating and stepping back to 14). And the threadle does set up a very fast line to the 15 tunnel!
Great “left” verbal at 1:05 and she had a great turn on the last tunnel! The ending line looked good with you staying in motion (and on fresh legs :)) You can be even further ahead for that last line by being more lateral on the 15-16-17 tunnel-jump-tunnel line (she would probably be perfectly fine to do it with you further up the course, running towards 19.
Nice job adding the collection cues to 7 at the end – I timed it versus the previous video. Now, it is hard to compare 2 different days but I was consistently getting the collection to be .07 -ish slower. That is not a lot but again in the 20″ BC division… it is a lot LOL!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>>I considered that here when I walked it and I would like to time to see the difference. She has never been one to generalize and the differences in surfaces make a big impact on her. She runs fastest on grass, probably a toss up between dirt and turf (really depends on the turf though), and then mats are the slowest. When I’m at new facilities I usually try not to give her any collection verbals unless absolutely needed because she is already so thoughtful and she’s so good at collecting that it really does slow her down. On this turn I purposely let her jump in extension because of that because normally in a trial she’s not going to be running on grass and it keeps her speed up.>>
That all makes sense! A dog in extension that knows where she is going will turn out to be the fastest one out there 🙂 I find that we over-cllect our dogs a lot, so it would be interesting to see if a little hint of collection here or there would be useful or not – and on surfaces she is confident on.
>>I think I will try the ending of this sequence again from 11 and on to try a few of these things.
>>I did plan the decel as part of the tunnel exit – the lateness getting down the line was my legs LOL. I will try it with the verbal only.Perfect – I see it below!
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Hi!
Things are going much faster now with you moving more, which is probably more trial-like!
>> I did try to follow instructions>>
You totally are! This was a avery informative session!
I have 2 perspectives on this send to the 5 jump: one from the handling point of view, and one fom the training point of view 🙂
From the handling point of view: I think your sends are a bit too sideways (this is a great camera angle) meaning that you are turning so your shoulders are ending up parallel to the bar, and your arm & leg are indicating the jump with a bit of a side step. This causes your shoulders to show her a line that is past 5. So sometimes it works, but sometimes if you rotate too much, she doesn’t take the jump.
I think the sideways-ness of is it what is causing the question. So, think of the sends as more forward:
– with your dog-side arm back, look at her eyes very directly as she is approaching 4 (yo ucan decelerate a bit too, to do this). Then as she is jumping 4, your can use a bi gstep and a low arm (don’t let your arm get past your waist) to point to a spot halfway between 4 and 5, which should indicate the takeoff spot. It will feel like you are tossing a ball to the takeoff spot in front of jump 5, and will rotate your shoulders to the line she needs.From the training perspective: your handling (physical cue and verbal) is getting her inches from the jump… when the handling gets the dog that close to the jump, we want the dog to take the darned jump LOL!!! And keep the bar up! (yes, I am greedy).
>>The final jump of the pinwheel came down a few times. Am I leaving too early? not enough connection? I tried running away to the final jump and that just pulled her off the tunnel (maybe edited out).>>
Because she is requiring you to be soooo perfect… it is not a handling question, it is a training question 🙂
So, you can work Maisy on the lazy game stuff that Sassy is doing in MaxPup. That is all about training the commitment without needing perfect cues. Sassy can probably run this sequence with no problem at all, and your cues won’t need to be perfect 🙂 If you want, do a round of this sequence with Sassy while Maisy does the MaxPup lazy games and one step send games 🙂Nice work! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>> I worked on it by breaking it down with cheese then a toy and back chained it at add in speed. Here are the full sequences again.>>
Well done to you, they look fabulous. The feedback is boring, it is all “yay!” and “woohoo!!” haha! A quick summary :
Seq 1 with the GO line – lovely!
Seq 2 – also lovely! It looks like you had a little hesitation turning and leaving after you cued the right turn on the tunnel, but then you got up the line and her turn was great! Then you nailed it on the next rep, perfect! It is great to be able to trust her verbals. And it was really great that after 2 right turns on the tunnel exit, she went back to extension at the end with your go go go line 🙂
Great job here!
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Hi! He is doing well here!
Love the slam 1 -It looks like he is happy to interact with the board, but not on the end that is really high off the ground (one end seems like it is touching the ground, or seems lower than the other?) I think what will help him is if he only gets on the end of the board that is touching the ground, then slams it. When he was getting on it that way (similar to running up the teeter), he was very confident!) When he was trying to get on the end that was a few inches off the ground, he wasn’t able to shift his weight and it probably felt weird for him – which might be why he got more tentative approaching that side.
You can create a little loop for him: he runs up the board, slams it down, you click – and then toss the treat back to his starting point so he runs and gets it… then he is facing the part of the board that is touching the ground and can happily run up it again 🙂
O n the 2nd video. you can see him going back to the part of the board where it touches the ground too, which is perfectly fine. I don’t think he is worried about the sound, I think he doesn’t like the feeling of the board falling out from under him. So, you can create a happy loop here too: start on the side of the board that is touching the ground so he can run up it. Then, click the MM – then after he gets the MM treats, toss a treat back to his starting point so he gets on the board from the ground side again too. No need to add extra noise it to yet, until he is happy to slam it and gets on it without running around it or only getting on a little.
Countermotion is going really well! He was sending really nicely and then you were able to add moving away as well (and you remembered your verbals!! Yay!)
>> I don’t really like my body position and cues in this, but can’t quite put my finger on exactly why.
Maybe you were blocking the wing a bit? It is hard to tell from the camera angle. And also, it is a little awkward to be sending backwards 🙂 Plus, he was offering a lot of wraps, so you can keep playing tug with him til you are ready, so you have a moment to get combobulated 🙂
For example, he had a question at 1:37 – based on your shoulder position and his response, you were probably looking at him and not at the wing behind you. So remember to look back to the wing you want as you send him. And also make sure that you are not blocking the wing – it he can’t see it, then he won’t wrap it, he will offer a different wing instead.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi Barb and Enzo!
That sounds like a great weekend!!! And so fun to be in a runoff – very exciting and great fun to lay it all on the line 🙂
These courses look good! Smooth and fast!
>.Here is a re-run of course 1:
Very nice opening, smooth and fast! The come-tunnel moment at 7-8 was super – he never had to look at you and just went directly to the tunnel. The name call out of the tunnel was well-timed and the left verbal at :24 to set up the threadle was also well timed. That might be the only spot on both runs here that I don’t think you really trusted him – as he approached takeoff at 10, you were still saying left and facing it so he dropped the bar – ideally you can already be moving away to the threadle when he is about halfway to 10.
You were fully rotated with a low hand on the takeoff side of the bar at 13 for the wrap (:32) – it was a really good turn, and I still would like Enzo to give us a little more collection there (I am being picky 🙂 ). Add some countermotion – as soon as he is approaching the jump, before lifitoff, starting moving back towards the tunnel and see if that helps convince him to put in more collection.
‘At :42, you gave him his turn back cue right befor ehe put his head into the 17 tunnel – what a difference in the turn on the tunnel! You can add the name call even sooner, to affirm that he was correct to turn like that out of the tunnel. That turn allowed you to keep moving up the last line, and set up areally strong ending line!!!>>Here is the re-run of couse #2:
Wow, that 1-8 line on course 1 just looked so easy now, with you using verbals and layering to get to 7 and cue the turn. SUPER! Nice timing on the verbals, too!
For the exit of 8 and the jump cue for 9 – he is so good at his commitments now, I I think you can basically say ‘jump’ once or twice as he is entering the tunnel then again when he exits, while you move down the line – yes, stay a little connected and moving parallel a bit, but the big send at :20 sent him wide on 9. The BC 10-11 looked great, which set up the backside of 12 nicely – and you were in motion the whole time, which set up the whole line to the 15 tunnel nicely as well.
I am doing a happy dance with his independence on the 14 backside (and how much you are trusting it)! You said the verbal and gave motion support but no big giant steps or over-helping, then just stayed connected and moved through to landing: that allowed you to set a great turn on the exit because you were basically past the exit wing as he was lifting off. Perfect! He has come a long way with both the commitment and jumping effort on these hard slices – well done to you both!!!
You got quiet when he entered the last tunnel at :34, so he exited wide. That is the only adjustment to make on these courses: he naturally exits tunnels going forward/straight, so cueing the exit you want while he is still a stride before the entry will make for great lines on the exit!
>>Also, I need a tunnel brake at #17 but I always forget
I htink that this point, all he needs is the verbal (he is doing really well with his verbals!!!) so you don’t need to add decel to it – always better to keep moving with such a fast dog. And now that I have seen how well he turns when you say the cue before he enters (from the ‘turn back’ moment on the other course), I will keep bugging you about it LOL!
>>First off, he does have a separate cue for backside wrap versus backside slice. Alas, the jump is performed as a slice in both cases, but he handles it differently on landing. For the wrap cue (push) he expects to come back or even circle. For the slice cue (around) he expects to continue on the slice line and maybe continue behind the jump (back towards the takeoff side).>>
My confusion might be the 12 (push) and 14 (around) jumps getting different verbals here so I think sometimes that push pops up in around situations. You had push as the cue on 20 for hte other course (with some decel too) and he had a nice wrap there 🙂
Great job!!! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>>And although I’m wearing another 10th anniversary shirt on this one, please don’t expect a new one for each video. >>
Wait, what? I demand new CAMP shirts for every video LOL!!
He did really well on the first run!
“” I redid the last exercise to see if we could get the layer and we did! yay!””
Layering is TOTALLY a trend nowadays, so we are going to add more and more of it.
He had 2 littles questions at 5- 6 -7 (:09) – a little too much decel on the layer (so he collected over 5, but that was probably you wanting to be sure he got the layer) and then too much go over (he looked at you over 6) – try to keep moving and as soon as he has 5, switch to the tunnel verbals so he can find the whole line.
For the wrap cues – I think his WOO is even earlier than you did it here – Your decel cues and verbals started right as his front feet touched down at :13 – and he was a little wide on 9, making most of the turn on landing. That means it was a little late. So, I think his WOO opens as he is lifting off for 8 (the jump after the tunnel) – so as he is exiting the tunnel start to prepare for the decel and verbal to happen as you see him lifting off for 8 – I bet that is perfect for him, and gives him more time to process and adjust for the turn (and helps you rotate and turn sooner as well!)
>>The other part is getting a better turn out of the tunnel. I did a straight exit first then 2 tries for the right turn. Didn’t get my shoulder turned as quickly as I had hoped on the first rep. Second rep I tried to turn sooner, but watching it looks like I put up an opposite arm also.>>
The straight exit on Seq 1 looked good!
Seq 2 – Wager makes it a lot harder by plopping down in the middle of the sequence! I think Spot turned well on the exit of the tunnel at :33 – you can start the right verbal sooner and say it more than once – if you only sait it once, they may or many not catch it – so say it 2 or 3 times. He was definitely tighter on the last rep because you were sooner and more adamant (shaking your fist at him a little :)) So it depends on the line – for this relatively wide line 3-4, you can call the right verbal sooner like you did on the last rep, but in the softer tone you used at :32. If you need something tighter but not quite a wrap? The more adamant tone and a little fist-shaking with the outside arm works like a charm!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! Sorry for the delay, I was stuck in airport craziness!!
Ronan looks very comfy here!!! No problem at all with the taller board. Feel free to elevate it more, if you have higher stuff to stabilize it with. And since he is doing a RDW (if my memory is correct), you can have him hop off in the middle of the board – since he will be going REAL FAST, he needs to know how to safely dismount if something goes wrong (rather than fall off) so we teach it at this stage 🙂Speaking of real fast:
>.seemed quick on the video!>>
ha! Yes, he has quick feet and likes anything that involves going fast. When he is going fast, he just pivots on his hind end rather than moving it independently – so when you slowed him down and turned him at the end of the boat at :19 and then again at :32 and :36, he had to use his hind end independently and he did well 🙂 You can slow him down even more to do that turning around – that way he has to think about each foot and not just get it done with momentum 🙂
Great job here! Have you played around with backing up onto the teeter board? That seems like a good next step for him!
Tracy
