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>> I really liked the way moving through this box went with the blind. I am not sure if it went so well because of the line set or because he isn’t one to shop for jumps yet.
It went well because you handled it really well 🙂
>>this was evidence that I really should have ended the session sooner but kept pushing. Thankfully he stayed happy and recovered beautify .>>
Do you have a timer running on the session? You can set it to 3 minutes and then be done when the timer says so 🙂
>>Looking ahead to course 1 of standard with opening 1-3… I feel like my mechanics on a forward send from a stay are not the best. If they don’t have a lot of space to take off and you want to be on the landing side to serp, how do you get this done without moving backwards?>>
I try to avoid moving backwards. You can start further back from 1 with a short lead out (but not past 1) so you end up parallel to 3 and an just scoot along the landing side of it without having to move backwards.
>>Also, I’m having some trouble with the coordinate maps displaying?>>
Yes, the software and the CRCD are not talking to each other. Sorry! Try the PDFs – the courses are in first PDF (not the one with the handling ideas)
Tracy
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Yes, it is great that she is motivated by food AND toys – it makes training easier! Keep me posted on how she does in the new places with the evil challenges 🙂
TracyHi! Hope you are having a great trial weekend! Glad to hear she likes the treat huggers!
The rear crosses are very close to being perfect: you had good pressure at :06, :14 and 1:05 but you stopped short and never positionally crossed her line – so you physically remained on the wrap side, so she wrapped. Compare that to :26 when you followed through on the line and kept moving towards the exit wing (moving towards the camper) and she got it!
So the main thing to do is put the pressure on the RC diagonal then keep moving to go to the other side of her line, which should solidify the rear crosses.And when she went to the backside, it was because you had too much pressure and turned your feet to the backside line before she could pass you for the RC (at :38. :47 and 1:30 for example). So the reps where she wrapped by accident were better in terms of rear cross pressure, just be sure you keep moving to the exit wing to make the side change. Let me know if that makes sense.
On the second video, the
Go looked great! And her wraps are going really well too – you can leave even sooner! Once you begin the FC, stay connected but keep moving through the cross so she chases you up the next line.And I agree – nice backside pushes! Yay!!!
Great job here!
TracyPerfect! It is a spoon attached to the teeter, I love it!
This also went really well: she is going to have a fabulous teeter!! The wing wraps tp the board looked really great: fast & confident. I think she is ready for one more thing – move the upright that is holding the teeter buy maybe an inch towards the end of the board, so the board moves the tiniest bit under her as she runs up (the board should only move maybe half an inch or less. Then do all the same games – and reward a LOT so she is really happy with the teeter. This is the beginning of training the real thing!! So fun! And yes, after she drives to the treat, she can look at you:
“What’s next, Mom?” LOL!
As with the previous game, my only suggestion is to have her turn around and then call her off the side so she doesn’t run straight off the board, through her eventual end position. That will keep her from thinking she can just run off the board (I am guessing you’ll teach her a 2o2o of a 4on at the end of the board.Great job!
TracyHi!
This is looking really good! She seemed perfectly happy to run up the board and start without you LOL! And she realized she has a great view from up there haha! Things were smoothest when you had her wait for you to get to the top of the board before you released her, so definitely keep doing that. It also looked like you had a target attached to the end of the board – that was helpful for getting her to drive all the way up. She seemed nicely confident!
So yes, add more motion and distance too, you can even start moving past the end of the board and add more speed with the wing wraps 🙂 She looks great here!
The only suggestion I have is that rather than let her run straight back down the before through the end, you can have her turn around then cue her to hop off the side. Running straight through the end of the board might eventually dilute her end position, so we want to be sure she doesn’t just run off. And she did seem to like turning around to walk down the board better than she liked being lifted off the top.Nice work 🙂
TracyYay! I am glad the class is giving you more ideas on how to use the MM!!! Fingers crossed for cooler weather ahead!
Tracy
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This was great, I love using the clicker board! He was great and the noise of the instant click really helped. You can use the bang of the teeter board in this situation as the click: when he backs up onto it and it slams, you can drop the reward in (rather than click then drop it in). The bang is looking good!!On the full teeter – I think having the MM out there is a good focal point (he was not a thing you at all, YAY!) and your clicks were good: as soon as his front feet hit you clicked it – he was TOTALLY on board with that and then was great! You were able to add more motion too ,and he as also excellent. YAY!! You can move the MM a little further away but for now, definitely leave it out there while the behavior solidifies. Great job!!
TracyHi!
>I am struggling to work out whether I should be working on calming him down ie using calming quiet behaviours or using a toy but then he gets aroused… Calm behaviours I am more likely to get shut down, exciting behaviours like toys get overarousal- pebndulum shiufts so quick and seems to bypass the moderate in the middle. Releasing him to run he tends to think he should do agility equipment and then gets pissed when he doesnt get rewarded or I am not participating.>>
It is not unusual for dogs to shift back and forth in states of arousal and skip that lovely optimal state. Because he seems to prefer to be moving and doesn’t prefer for us to try to calm him… I think we should focus on the pattern game with The treat toss – offered engagement – treat toss. That way he is moving but also doing calming work, so it might be a really nice balance!
..I havent been to one for many years- last one was with my old dog after a car accident when went as protest about disabled handlers in the ring. Thought was going to be permanently on crutches or a walking stick and had judges refusing to judge me at local trials as they didnt think disabled handlers was a good look for the sport. Got a ruling from ruling body just prior to nationals so went because I could…
That is amazing!!! Good for you!!!
>>. There are two shows before it and I will see if she is ready to go in the ring for them and how she goes as to whether I run her or not.
That is great – those 2 shows will really help!
T
This was also interesting!
Note on the first sit cue, she didn’t sit right away but she licked her lips, salivating: so the sit cue had value (Pavlov/conditioned response) but it took her a couple of reps to get good at it. She seems a little better on your left than on your right, so maybe she is more experienced on your left? That loooooong stand was funny! But good girl to figure it out 🙂While still moving slowly, I think you can add the frisbee to this (yes, I am evil hahaha). And without the frisbee, you can layer in more speed. I agree that latent learning will help her out in the next day or two, so you will be able to add more and more speed.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! This was a really insightful session!! She was on fire LOL!! It was a bit head-exploding for her and challenging, but a good challenge!!It took her a minute to remember the around when she was really excited but the frisbee but she was figuring it out – love it! And yes, repeating the cue is great for this, til she offers a response.
So this gives us a double opportunity:
You can use this at home as a distraction, so she learns to process cues in high arousal.
And you can take the frisbee to classes or other distracting places, so she has a top value reward to help focus in harder environments.Great job here!!!
TracyHi!
Yes, part of the fun is figuring out which turns need to be controlled (like #11) and which don’t (like 5) and which need a little extra info (8-9). Going in deeper to the tunnel is to get momentum into the pinwheel so you can send and not have to worry about controlling it 🙂T
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This is great information,actually! On 3 obstacles in the 20” class, I will take a 1/10th of a second advantage 🙂 I think the common denominator for the speed was on t he lines where he could really turn tightly and chase you out of there: Jaakko exits and German/serp exits. Now, we want you to NOT be behind him at the tunnel, so I suggest working the Germans by leaving sooner – that way you can also pick up the advantage after the tunnel too! That tenth of a second on 2 leads to another tenth of a second further up the line – do that 3 or 4 times on course and you win by a mile!
So we can definitely keep looking at these options, especially on the bigger courses.Thanks for timing it!
TracyHi there!
>> I love the running lead-out idea and have already taken him down to the park and practiced that with him.
Perfect! Running on the lead out is a very European idea – and they get amazing speed from their dogs! Strike will love it 🙂
>>Run was at 1030 MDT so later than I would have liked. Typically I would like to practice about 0830-0900 MDT.
Is that to avoid the heat? I feel that pain – I live in SW Virginia, and at this time of year I need to get onto the field at sunrise or it is too hot! Eek!
On his run, looking for any questions he had to places to shave off time:
1-2-3: he had a little question 1-2, so his start angle might need to be straight. Be sure he can see jump 2 before taking off for 1, so he can jump right at it.
4-5-6: he sent to the tunnel really well but then you ended up too far ahead and he considered taking 14 at :10, based on your position. You can run deeper towards the tunnel with him (rather than send) and then drive out to send to 5, so he won’t think about 14 🙂
That will also make the 8-9 turn easier: by being ahead at 7, you pushed hard to 8 and he almost considered a backside there. If you go deeper to the tunnel, you can stay lateral to 8 and not need to run towards it – he seems to read turn cues REALLY well so I be you get a great turn without having to go near that 8 jump.
Nice turn at 11 and nice fast ending line! When you play with this again, try that nice tight turn at 11… then run it again with less of a tight turn. He is right at the size where the wider turn might be slower, so it would be fun to see it both ways and time it.
>>Otherwise I was happy with energy, listening, and execution on run.
Totally agree! He looked great 🙂 And your connection was lovely, which really helped him too 🙂
>> I should have stopped much sooner. Its something that I need to improve on. Stop on success, praise often, and watch for signs of stress. Love this dog and looking forward to success in the future.>>
There is MUCH to love about this dog! So yes, you can give yourself guidelines: run it once, then give him a break. Watch the video, walk it a few times for yourself, then maybe try it again. He doesn’t seem to like repeating things, so you can set it up as a one run session then he gets a break – you can run it without him a few times 🙂 then try him again. And if he runs it great, twice? No need to run it again 🙂
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! I think these went very nicely!!! Some thoughts:
Ruse’s Run:
Good blind in the opening! In fact, I think the whole opening went well until 14 when you lost connection and didn’t quite cue the tunnel at :26Looking at the Serp versus FC then BC to tunnel at 11-12: I think the FC -BC combo set better lines there! When you went back though there a 1:57 you did a FC to a FC – the 2nd FC was late because it is so hard to get into it quickly. The 2 blinds there were nice too so I timed the different options… the more controlled crosses there (FC-BC and FC-FC) were faster. I think the FC-BC combo was the fastest but I would need to get electronic timers to be totally sure 🙂
The BC-BC was fast but she was wider, so the extra yardage ended up costing time.Run 2 – the FC here on landing side of 3 set a wider line at 2 – the BC 2-3 controls the line better for her, she reads them brilliantly! Plus, the FC on landing side of 3 puts you in the way of her line to the weaves, so she has to go around you a little.
In the spots where she came off the line, like at 1:36: yes you were a little quiet 🙂 but also you were deceling and disconnecting so she came off the line. You can probably be quiet on that type of simple line but be sure you are very connected. You had nice lines on the next reps when you went through there – super connected and verbals too 🙂
Hero:
The BC in the opening at 2-3 would need to be more decelerated and more connected to help him understand how tightly to turn. For now, the FC definitely is tighter!Weaves looked good!!
Yes, he drifted out before the first tunnel (thinking about the straight tunnel perhaps) but then he was great on the 2nd rep (plus you stayed off the line more so there was a clearer line). I think having you stick closer to the correct tunnel with more brake arm and not as far ahead really made the difference – plus he is gaining experience and it is possible that he has never seen that configuration 🙂 The more experience he has, the easier it will be to handle that line.On the 11-12 line – he is still learning how to do the tight blinds (they will get tighter as he gets used to seeing them more on course) so I compared the serp to the FC-FC combo. I thought he read the serp really well! It was a shade slower than the FC-FC combo. The BCs will start to get faster too so we can always time it again when he is tighter on those like Ruse is. So for now – use the FCs there 🙂
And he was lovely on the ending line too!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! I am glad you got to play on the big courses!!! FUN!!!!
Opening line: lead out more so you can be further up the line and do the blind sooner on the first rep (start it wen she lands from 1) – it was a little late and she lifted her head a little, which costs time. You can also see the slight lateness on the 2nd rep – you started it after she took off so she lands from 2 then turns.
On the weave exit: don’t say yes 🙂 Just say tunnel! I think the yes might indicate that the dogs should come to us for rewards because so many of them do that when we “yes” a behavior on a line. On the 2nd rep, you turned before she exited and said tunnel: she nailed it.
Nice line to the backside before the teeter, nice teeter!You hustled to get the 2 blinds on the line after the straight tunnel – I think e can get you there one step soon to make it perfect: run with your arms close to your body like and Olympic sprinter and do the blinds with head turns (and opening shoulders) and verbals. You needed to be one or two steps further up the line to really make it super tight and fast, so I think arms closer to your body will get you there really easily. She read the line really nicely, so it is a matter of getting the 2nd blind to start sooner (:45) so you can do it before she takes off for the jump – your arms were out extended away from the body, which slows down your running a little.
At the end, on the jump before the tunnel: this is a spot where we would want to time the difference between options! You did it as a post turn and she was wide (at :52 you were facing the teeter as she took off so she was jumping pretty straight). It would be fun to compare the time difference there to a spin and also to slicing that jump to her right – yes, there might be more turns but there is a LOT of extension that direction!
And on the very end: at 1:01 you got a great position on the wrap jump and got a good decel – she was a little wide because the decel and post turn keeps you facing forward. So something to play with is decel, send and leave sooner, versus do a spin there. That would be great to help you figure out the fastest handling options – you can set up the pieces in your yard an just work those so we can compare.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
