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Good morning! I am crossing all of my fingers and toes that your weave poles get fixed today!!!
These sessions look great – she is an experienced “shaper” so you were easily able to get the idea across, build value, move yourself away, add the pet tutor, etc. Yay! I think she only had one sorta question where she went between you and the poles and then turned herself around to get through them LOL! Good girl. But all of the other reps were picture perfect. So…. onwards! You can start with the 2 poles and work around the clock, with the sends and adding motion. The stick in the ground poles add challenge because there is no “base” (at least not that I could see) but I think she was fine with the concept of ‘go between’. If your first sessions with the angles of entry around the clock goes well and adding motion is easy as I expect it will… you can totally go to the angles poles. She is little so the angled poles are still going to be easy 🙂
Great job here! And keep me posted about the upcoming weave-fix-mission!!!Tracy
Good morning!
>> Sorry…getting the lingo down while doing both tracks is taking a little more brain power than I have these days!!>>
Totally not your fault LOL! Just because it is clear in my mind’s eye does not mean that I have successfully translated it to paper 🙂 Sorry! Also, I am better in the morning with coffee than in the afternoon when I am drinking water LOL!!
>> And when you said to try it “straight” – does that mean 12 and 6 – like actual weaves?>>
Yes – on the shaping session where you are c/t for the really hard right side entries, the poles can be at 12 and 6 just like regular for real weavers (or very slightly angled, 11:45 or something :)). Difficult but not over-facing. If it is too hard, open them up a little with the first pole coming towards 1 o’clock.
The session here looked good!!!!! Click timing was spot on and his drive to the poles looked good. Yay!
The left side – he is really getting these and bending into the poles. Fabulous! I think the hardest entry you had here was when you were facing pole 2, approx 9 o’clock – so with sending on the left, you can keep working towards 8 and 7 o’clock positions (the other poles and the reward target are tremendously distracting!)
On the easier left side entries, add some motion too, just like you would on 2x2s (sending and moving parallel up the line).
Looking at the right side: on the easier sends (12, 1, 2 o’clock approx) add motion too 🙂 He is doing well on those.
On those harder entries: as you work it on the 2x2s, you can also work them here (the more, the merrier, right?) But work them much closer to pole 1 within and arm’s length – so it is easy to get it and harder to enter further down the channel.
The other thing you can do here is click/treat that entry when you are close to it – just like you would with the 2×2, you can click the entry and right shoulder at pole 2, then drop the reward into the channel (or move the reward target into the channel for those entries). We can break out that entry and work on it separately til he gets it.Great job here! Let me know if that makes sense!
TracyHello again! Hooray for the threadle side entry session!!!!
(Your hand movement was fine, you were just doing a little send swoosh 🙂 The hand movement was not really helpful for him, the challenges were still completely intact and the hand movement is a normal part of the motion he will see).
I am VERY happy with how he did finding the threadle side entries here: GOOD BOY!!!! When you were down by the 5 o’clock area and you were basically facing the exit of the poles, and he got all the way out there to find the correct entry: SUPERSTAR!!!!! Love it!
So on this one you can add a little more motion.
And since as motion increases, he will tire sooner (because he is running more), you can mix in the threadle entries into your regular sessions with the sends and motions. That way you cover all the challenges without overworking him.
The threadles were definitely more of a mind-bender for him, he was talking to you a bit and I took that as a slightl level of frustration because it was so difficult. However, the success rate remained super high so it was more of a stimulating frustration and not a failure-induced frustration, if that makes sense? In other words – it was fine that he found it challenging and had to think his way through the puzzle, because he problem-solved really successfully.Great job here! You two look great and I am excited for more! Remind me of his parents: Match and Elphie?
Tracy
Good morning!
Good to see you here!!!!! When he was missing entries in your other training sessions, what was happening – running past or entering on the wrong side? We can keep an eye out for that and also see if we can see what hole in the process might have led to it.
He was fabulous on the first session here – great job with your session structure!!! You hit all the angles on the sends (that send from 6 o’clock to the right side entry was pretty impressive!!!). And also hit the angles with a bit of motion. That is great!!!
he had a couple of questions on your left side sends when you were near the 9 o’clock entry – he was weaving but the ‘wrong’ direction. I think that is just an artifact from the previous training and he just needed to sort out where the reward line was here. The rest of the session helped him and when you revisited that angle, he was great (I do chuckle when he barks his opinion when you didn’t reward LOL!!!!!)
So a couple of ideas for the next sessions:
I think you can angle the poles to 1 and 7 now (they looked to be 2 and 8 here). Revisit the sends, revisit the motion – pretty much a session very similar to what you did her but the poles are tighter.
Then, if that goes well – add more motion. Work the sends but instead of walking, go to jogging and see how it goes.
And if that is peachy keen… the session after than can be about arousal with the poles at 1 and 7, with tugging before the send.
I suggest more motion and more tugging because speed demon puppies like him sometimes don’t “see” the entries when they are really excited and running fast, so we are going to ask him to look for that entry even when he is totally pumped up. We will layer in arousal at every level to make the progression easier 🙂
Great job here! I see your threadle side entry video so I will go take a look at that now for more Potion TV 🙂Tracy
Good morning!
This was a really great session – accuracy, tons of different angles, motion, and he was more balanced about running on both sides. And yes, I would have rewarded on the self-send too 🙂 It looks like the poles were at 2 and 8 here? Onwards to 1 and 7 with all the sends and motion. It will be easy for him.
He seems to be just like Contraband: accurate and semi-passionate about this with the Pet Tutor but not enthralled enough to sprint to it. For the purposes of weave training, we will go to a higher excitement reward. With CB, I use his frisbee on the 2x2s now – I went to it after several sessions with the 2 poles where he was really super about looking straight. Now we have accuracy AND speed 🙂Now, I suggest it for Kaladin because he also can go fast without losing his mind (same as CB, but not same as Elektra Who totally loses it when she is too excited :)) and he is really good about looking ahead. So after another session of the 2 poles at 1 and 7 with the pet tutor, I think you can do a session with the Most Magical Nemo Ball (and the Nemo ball friends) and see how it goes!
The only downside of using the toys instead of the Pet Tutor is that you will get fewer reps, because he will be running more. So my sessions are about 90 seconds, but I like the results.
let me know what you think!
TracyHi! I am glad to hear the weather is behaving!!! And I love wind chimes too – we are getting to the part of the year where I can sit outside in the morning, drink coffee, listen to the wind chimes and watch the hummingbirds. So nice!!!
She did really nicely on the shaping sessions here! You got lots of value built, got a different location in, added the MM and added the interim verbal. Perfect! She picked up really easily, which is not surprising at all 🙂
Yes – onwards to the position work and getting the poles angled. Because she is an experienced ‘shaper’, you will probably be able to move through the first couple of steps pretty quickly (getting the poles angled, adding motion). So as long as her success rate is high and you are getting all the crazy angles in… feel free to move through to the angles poles as quickly as she says is ok to do 🙂Great job here! Looking forward to the field sessions 🙂
TracyHi!
yes, I think the poles were set wide enough for him – he has more experience with weaves than Presto and a little smaller, so I think it was a great angle.
And hooray for a fun play day! Sad news about the snow but hopefully it leaves quickly!T
OMG that freestyle video is SO FUN!!!! And his sequencing looks great too! Are you in classes at Get Rev’d? Those are good people and top notch trainers!
I totally see why you got him – he oozes amazingness, right through the screen here. And I like dogs that are thoughtful til they ‘get it’ and then they turn on all the speed.
What a terrific dog, I am excited to see your future adventures with him!
TracyUgh rain!
you can try the weave-tunnel game as soon as you have had 3 or 4 sessions on sorta open poles, just like the one you did here yesterday. The poles can be open for it. And you can probably do it indoors with your tunnel (I think I remember you can fit a tunnel there?)T
Hi!
>> so much fun!:) In the 12:00 position, I sent from both my right and left sides. I am not sure if that’s correct. >>
Yes, that is totally correct!
>>Also, I broke down and bought a Treat n’ Train.>>
I feel that, I resisted for many years but now I have 2 of them haha!!
He is SO FUN!!! You said he is a rescue ? Tell me more!
This is a really great session. Your reward target set up kept his focus forward on the line and he did a really great job of finding his entries and bending his body to th reward line.
His only little questions were at 3 and 9 o’clock – I wonder if that is an artifact of his previous experience? But you helped him a little and he immediately figured it out. It was a really strong, high rate of success session.For him, I think you can angle the poles right away, no need to do another session with the pole at 3 and 9. That can help him with any questions about the entry when yoo get to 3 and 9 o’clock sends. With the poles angled at maybe 2 and 8 (of that is too easy, go to 1 and 7 :)), add in your motion as well where you send then walk down the line.
Let him guide you – if it is really easy, you can add more motion! On the really hard sends, dial it back. If the angle is really easy, make it a touch harder.
It was hard to hear if you had an interim cue going to give him permission to go, so if you did: great! If not, add on a little noise or word just to let him know when it was ok to start moving to the poles.Great job here!!! Let me know what you think!
TracyEwwww sorry about the mud!! The weaves can wait til the ground is dry 🙂 And to get him on your left – use that fancy behind the back send trick! That was awesome! (I need to teach that to my dogs :))
T
Hello! Look at that green stuff! No more snow!! I see the sun shining!
Really nice channel intro session! He has never seen this concept before, right? Super good work, and he got some really hard entries too! You had motion as well. The magic of the pet tutor helped him focus on the ‘line’ so he was basically perfect.
On interesting thing that I see it that he gallops to the harder right side entries by is tending to trot to the left side entries. I am not sure if he thinks that side is harder and requires more thought, or if he is more comfy on the right side entries. Either way, we will keep track. He was gallopy into the simpler entries (on the 10-2 part of the clock) so I am thinking it was more about being thoughtful.You can probably now move the PT a little further away too, add more motion, and work in harder angles past the 3 and 9 sides heading more towards the 8 and 4 angles (but without motion first).
Great job!!!!!
TracyHi!
>> Presto went to his first seminar tonight – a jump grid one with Jacquelyn Hoye at OTR.>>
What a perfect seminar for him!!! Perfect age to do that.
>> He was super fabulous! >>
Well, of course he was fabulous! I am happy to hear it but also totally not surprised 🙂 He was probably that nice combination of totally focused AND pumped up by the fun environment 🙂
Super sessions here on the 2x2s! I don’t think he had any errors and there was only one rep where he had to slow down think (a threadle rep). But the others were fast and perfect, without motion, with motion, send, threadle, didn’t seem to matter. Yay!! My
only suggestion is to delay the click for one more moment til his right shoulder gets to pole 2 in the 2x2s. When you were working the hard right side sends at the beginning, you were clicking perfectly for him getting to the correct side of the poles. So now… wait to see if he can get to the correct side AND go through them (and not run past them). I am fine if he looks at you a little when you are delaying the click 🙂
Same with the MM – on the 2x2s, just delay one heartbeat longer til you see right shoulder at pole 2. When the MM is there, he won’t look at you (be cause MM = LIFE!) and it will allow you to mark the moment where he comes back into the poles. I think he will be fine with it and still be correct… but many youngsters get to the correct side of the poles and then run straight past the entry, parallel to the poles () so the right shoulder/pole 2 criteria was developed to make sure that you don’t end up clicking that moment of running past (because I sure did, and then got more of running past). For channels, it is left shoulder/pole 3 🙂
The threadle challenges looked great! You can add harder angles now too. And if you get a chance do another clicker session, try c/t on the 2 poles for the totally straight entry and see how he does.
Great job!!
TracyWow, excellent session! Super high rate of success, even with all of those really hard angles of entry! I was especially thrilled to see how she went out and found the entry on those right-side sends! Happy dance!
So 3 ideas for things to do next (3 different things you can mix in):
– As you mentioned, work up to the really hard left side sends, being calm and stationary like you were here.
– on the “easier” sends, get her a little wilder with tugging before each rep to add the challenge of arousal! She is completely focused on her line to the MM so now we will see if we can add more excitement.
– add your motion now – send and as she is heading to the entry, start to walk away down the line, parallel to the poles towards the MM. Start with the easier entries then work up to the hard ones. If motion is difficult, move slowly 🙂 If she says it is easy peasy… walk fast, jog, build up to a run!
Great job here! Let me know how it goes!
TracyHi! Nice session here!!! He seems to really have the idea of the channels and he totally adores that Manners Minder LOL!
Due to the Manners Minder romance, I think you can add line up cookies, for two reasons:
First, so he comes back to you fast and happy after rewarded reps (to line up easily) and also after no-reward reps (where the ultra-sadness of not getting the MM to work was evident hahahaha).
Second, to add a bit of distraction – he would have to leave the cookies to earn the other cookies: so hard!!! But I think he will be able to do it, no problem.Almost all of the entry challenges looked great, nice timing of your clicks! For those, basically everything 9:15 to 2:45 on the clock, add your motion now: send and start to walk down the line (if that is easy, you can go faster).
He did have some trouble when you got to what looked to be 3 (or later) and 9 (or later), so don’t add motion to those yet: for those angles, start him a little closer to the entry but on the same angle, and see if proximity helps. If not, you can work over to those angles more gradually from the highly successful angles.(I also worked those 3 and 9 positions on the 2×2 entry with a clicker in my living room, and it transferred immediately to the channels 🙂 )
Great job here! Looking forward to seeing more!
Tracy
