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Hi Patty, welcome!!! I love Corgis 🙂 They are adorable AND brilliant, the total package 🙂
I think you will find this good for all ages – on the demo videos, it was my oldest and “most experienced” dog that made the most mistakes LOL!!!
Keep me posted!
TracyHi!
>>Update on the prop 1 game. I think we played more which made her wait for the cue. She had no issues with the sideways or backwards cue.>>
Great!!!! That is awesome!
>>I was looking forward to trying this with her, I thought it looked like fun. She is doing great. I dropped a cookie between me and the jump, which initially made her not go around it. I also pushed it out too far too quickly. I have to watch myself!!! I brought it back it and we were back on task. I pushed it out again but not as far. She did go between me and jump a few times. I didn’t put a cookie in the bowl, she thought about it and did it correctly.>>
Do you mean the wrapping? She is only about 10-11 weeks old, so proceed slowly, you have plenty of time, and use a nice big barrel 🙂 Because she is so young, you only want to do repetitive wrapping maybe one session a week.
>> So my analysis is the pup is awesome and the handler needs to not rush the process.>
I agree on both of these 🙂
>>None the less, I am trying to do it as suggested and my brain is just getting in the way. (I know it shouldn’t, what you are asking for is simple).
Ha! Simple is not easy when it comes to changing muscle memory! It took me a while to get it into my bones when I was learning it.
>>I also tried it outside and with more room to move, I elicited the pant leg grab (instead of the shoe grab). I was also late because I was still thinking too much about what I was supposed to be doing! Second session, back indoors, I did much better. Third session was pretty good, but the handler regressed a bit.>>
Keep things slow for now in terms of your motion. You can do it as a restrained recall if you have someone to hold her, so you get a good head start without too much motion, because motion is so stimulating 🙂
>>>We did one session of the shaping goat work. I was using a large cardboard overnight envelope. She got 4 paws on during the session. I probably could work on playing in between shaping more. Is that object acceptable for now. I have other things (raised) for down the road…aerobic step, raised bed.>>
Perfect! I think it is a great object to start with! The more things you do this on, the better 🙂
>>(sometimes I think I cheat because we do some work before she gets her breakfast!!)
Not cheating at all! It is effective use of food rewards 🙂
Thanks for the update, it sounds like she is doing really well!
TracyHi! I think it is a possibility, depending on when you want him to do it. I think it will be hard for him to do it if you want him to do it as the board is falling (harder to balance) but you can have him land then sit!
Tracy
Hi!
Mountain climbers look great!! He seemed very happy to drive up the board, no matter what you were doing. My favorites were the rear crosses, it is good to train them this early – so many adult dogs don’t know how to maintain their forward focus on the plank while we cross behind them, he was perfect!>> I assume these eventually add some motion with the board. I’m guessing that is going to be a bit of an issue for us to work through. Hopefully we’re able to work through it as well as he has overcome his initial concerns with the height.
Yes! This does add motion. How adjustable is your device? You can add the tiniest bit of movement less than an inch, and see what he does! That will help guide you for how quickly you can get more drop involved.
On the bang game – he also showed a lot of confidence here! The one thing we can change up a little is how much he was looking at you. At :41 he was looking at his position so we want more of that. When you originally taught the end position, did you use a target? If so, you can totally use that target here too to train the position? If so you can use it here too so he can focus on it and not look at you – then we fade it out as we add all the other elements.
Great job!
Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
I agree, he definitely did better with the backing up when you were nice and low: it drew his head downwards and made it easier to engage the rear.
When you were working it on the flat and on the object, you can give him more of a point for reference for a starting point by bringing him to you to reset before backing up again. I think he sometimes didn’t know if he should offer more backing or offer other stuff out where he was – that reset moment (like a hand touch when he is on the flat, or a cookie to draw his front feet or all feet of of the object) can reset for more backing up really easily and help eliminate the other dance moves 🙂
For the next session on the flat – try to click before he stops moving (like at :53) and befoe he gets into the bow, and you can also throw the reward further so he doesn’t stop to eat it. Being able to eat while in the bow position was getting more bow, so you can-create a response cost for the bow by having the treat further away – so he has to move a bunch of steps to get it – which will get more backing up but less bowing. On the 2nd session (after the cone wraps) –
having the destination there really helps! I think the reset will definitely help him know it is a backing up game – you can cue or lure him to step forward then let him offer the backing up. He was not sure how to start the procedure so was offering other stuff 🙂And you can have your sitting position be part of the cue for now – when you went to the session on the inflatable, he was not sure if it was a 4on goat game or a backing up game so he offered a bit of all the things 🙂 You can have him hop on all 4s to get started (he had really nice balance on that – it is far harder than he made it look!!) then use the seating position and the reset to let him know that you wanted the backing up. And if you don’t want backing up, and just want balancing with all 4s – standing up will make it look pretty different.
The wing wraps on the cone looked super!!! I think he has this going really nicely 🙂 Next step… fade the bowls! You can have them present and visible… but reward from your hands now instead of dropping into the bowl. Then when he is fine with that, you can take them out entirely. You can also use 2 toys for this! Fading the bowls will help you get to the Turn And Burn game, which he will like because he gets to run run run 🙂
The tugging looks good! He is such a great tugging pup!! You can definitely try this on the cone with a tug in each hand. I love how he switched between toys so nicely – and it looks like he did not grab too much flesh? And also was weight shifting really nicely on the longer toy at about 8:09, I love the weight shifting! You can also apply that super tugging and weight shifting to the wobble board, see if he can tug and weight shift while on it! You might have to brace it so it doesn’t move that much for now, but it will be a great foundation for the teeter movement further down the road.
Great job!
TracyHi!
>>Sometimes I’m fumbling adjusting to who I have.
I feel that completely! We need to start a support group LOL!!!
I went back and practiced just the wings and counter motion at home – with just a toy! She had a blast. We took the tunnel plus one wing on the road. I practiced some stronger tunnel sends and then the front cross wraps.>>
These looked great – she had lovely speed and commitment, and your connection was really awesome!!! Yay!! On the wing wraps, you were experimenting a bit with the timing of your transitions while keeping her committed – the first couple were good but could have been sooner because she was a little wide. But then at :40, you nailed it – you decelerated sooner and rotated sooner while maintaining connection and look at how tight she was! Happy dance!
The last rep on the bigger sequence – I did notice she was not as fast as she had been, good to know it was an ouchy that will heal. What a good girl to keep working!!! She did well with her lines and commitments on that rep – her only question was at :56 on the wrap to the outside. I think you stayed there for too long to help her, so she read that as deceleration and slowed way down. You can send and leave while staying connected, and she will be faster on that line.Great job!! Hope she heals up fast!!
TracyHi!
>.the I have the baby gate up and the cat is on the other side. She is worried about that. lol.
Yes, I saw the cat pounce on her at the end of the other video LOL!!!
>>But it said not to worry if they are turning the wrong way, so I just kept going.
Correct! Usually it is handler error when they turn the wrong way, so we reward in the right direction anyway 🙂
On the video:
I agree, I think the bag will be a better choice, she doesn’t have as much value for the boot here so she was looking at other things at first and not driving to it as much.
One thing that will help especially on the right turns: You can let her start moving before you, which will allow you to actually show her the RC pressure sooner without her feeling like she needs to push away from the pressure of the RC cue. When you were starting with her, the RC cue was a little last minute at the prop so she turned well to her left (her stronger side) but then it was harder to her right because the info was later. Starting it almost like a send til she takes a step or two forward then you start moving will let you cut in behind her sooner and cue it earlier.
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! She did really well here! She is showing a lot of terrific understanding of commitment 🙂 Yay! One thing that will make it even easier is if you have her start in front of you, give her a little ready ready… then you use your arm & leg to cue her to the bag and start. She was starting before you, so sometimes you were moving away too soon and she was not sure if she should chase you or go to the bag. So have her start in handler focus, looking at you, then shift her to obstacle focus with the send. It will also teach her to be patient haha!!!
She only had one question at about :30 where she turned left and you wanted her to turn right: in that moment, it looks like you pressured in behind her line a little so it read like a rear cross. All of the others were perfect! You can also use a toy for this so she has to commit and then comes back to the tug toy.
Great job!
TracyHi!
>>Yesterday in the first session he was thoughtful and sorting things out even when I accidentally triggered the PT as he was coming back to me…twice (he spun around and headed to PT).>>That is fine, I do that a lot by accident and on purpose too sometimes LOL!
>>Today I had sorted out the PT remote mechanics. He had a few more errors of missing with his hind feet but I felt like he was learning more trying to sort out what I was looking for.>>
He did well here but it was hard to see the rear feet squarely touching, they looked to be on the edge more often than not. So, you can get more obvious square hits with a slightly larger mat or even one that is more elevated, to help clarify for him to that it is not near or over, but actually on. I like to start with big mats then shrink them down to help the pups get this started and get a really high rate going.
Nice work! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
I like how the tunnel start was more fun for him and made you work harder LOL!! He did REALLY well on this too! I feel the pain of almost falling over the dog on the rear cross entries LOL!
All of the GO and wraps on the wings plus left or right exits are looking good. And he read the rear cross tunnel exits too. I think his only real question was about the tunnel entry on those hard RC angles – he seemed to respond better to a Go cue embedded with the tunnel cue – those were most successful for commitment. When you only said the tunnel cue, he tended to have more questions. So you might want to play with a “GO TUNNEL GO TUNNEL” type of cue as he exits the wing wrap to commit to the tunnel, then switch to the left/right? The Go has a lot of value so it can be placed before the tunnel cue to name driving to it, rather than go go go go go which names the exit. Let me know if that makes sense! Everything else looks great so we can focus on the little details 🙂
TracyHi!
Interesting session! She probably has a reinforcement history of chasing the ball in that location, so that is what she was looking for especially when you were moving faster. Definitely don’t try to go faster – in fact, go really slowly so she doesn’t focus on your motion. Also, I think it was a really good plan to switch to the tug toy. You started to have really good reps at about 4:00 and that was great! So yes, keep this going with the tug toy (not the ball) as the toy produces a very different response. And keep walking past the jump slowly – if she takes it, reward! If she does not take it, keep walking to the other side, no reward, then turn and walk back towards it. I think you were trying to line her up after she missed, and it made both of you twitchy LOL! So, if she misses, now worries, keep walking then try again with the new direction. She will learn to find it because that is what triggers the toy to get thrown 🙂
Good job with your training choices here, figuring out what she needed! That really set up the success you had here and will make it easier for future sessions 🙂
TracyHi! Nope, it won’t confuse them – the travel plank or the teeter will look significantly different than the DW mat or board. Hot Sauce had zero questions training through this to the finished behavior on both 🙂
TracyHi! This looks really strong!
>> I tried to keep my dog side arm back and connected while moving forward. >>
You looked great to me! And she had no questions that I could see.
Great job with the gradual angling of the serp jumps! She was fast AND finding the turns with no trouble on the first couple of reps –
When you added the bigger sequence starting at :19 and at :26 and :44, change sides after the tunnel send to get to the other side so when she exits the tunnel, she serps the jump after it rather than do a 180. That is a little more challenging to find when you are in a lot of motion.The only other suggestion is when she lands from the serp jump to go to the tunnel at :54 and 1:02, add a stronger connection to turn her back out the tunnel and also keep moving towards the tunnel entry to set the line – you were moving away and she was looking up at you before turning back to the tunnel.
You got the serp jump after the tunnel at 1:44 and 1:57 and she looked great! No trouble finding it, jumping it, and turning. NICE! You can add more speed to get a little further ahead and see how she does with it.
Great job!!!
TracyHi! Tunnel plus toy was definitely very fun 🙂 And I am glad to hear he was pulling towards it more, I could see your dog-holding arm getting longer LOL! Good timing on your throws too, he never had to look back. You had some angles going too, all good! And very fun 🙂 After another session like this and you can switch him to the inside to begin the threadle foundation.
About the victory laps – I love letting dogs have the joy of running around with the toy, and cheering them on, and putting it on cue (go for a run!). Try not to call him back or use your bring it cue until you think you have a reasonably good chance that he will come back – with my pups, I count to 10 in my head slowly, then use the cue (bring it!) And as soon as they turn their heads to me, I make a big party (run away, cheer, etc) and then as they almost arrive, I reward with another toy. That has helped allow the victory laps without losing the retrieve 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
